SFNG

[Ler]

Hey!

[Ler]

Lets try this again.
I'm wondering if any of you good people can give some advice on SF Nasty Guard. You see, I was in 1stsfg and went through selection, got selected for 18e and now I'm out and finishing college. A guy from 20thSFG has called me 'cause I'm in their database because of my selection "status". After I got out of selection I was fired up to go to the Q but they messed up my order because they coincided with my PLDC date and then time was running out and I knew I needed college so here I am. I'm interested in joining 20th and going to the COURSE but I don't know how a NGSFG really is. How is their "team training"? What are the drills like? Are there opportunities for officer or warrant? Is it a good organization with squared away folks? I'd really appreciate if someone could reply who has SFNG"team" experiene. Are their teams on top of things? THANKS........Ler.

[Scout]

Ler,

Scroll down to Guardnet, there's a lot of guys from 20th GRP hanging out there.

[Ler]

Thanks Scout

[Door Kicker]

Ler,
I can't speak for all the Reserves, but 20th is squared away for the most part.
We take part in deployments with active duty SF on a continual basis. A past group Comander was actually promoted to Gen and is now on active duty in the SOF comunity.
Any opportunity for training is also available as well.
Door Kicker

[Ler]

Thanks Doorkicker, Right now I'm in contact with SFC Sovitsky. Doorkicker, you're obviously in 20th, so what is a typical drill like. Also have you personally had the opportunity to attend other schools ie, HALO SOTIC ECT..,,,,,Thanks, Ler

[Door Kicker]

Ler,
yes I am in 20th and we are very active.
We plan jumps at least every three months and have both active HALO and SCUBA teams.
I went to all of my schools while on active duty with 7th SF, and have done nothing but regular drills since 95. But this is my choice. I have a civillian job that keeps me busy and I usually choose to go to the shortest AT, and never request schools.
We usually have about three choices for AT, and two of those will be down range deployments that will last from three weeks to two months.
This year I am doing a home state AT and will be running a repel tower for ROTC mini camp. The best part is the young female cadets scared out of their minds in their tight OD green T shirt. JK. I better stop now.
Being on the coast provides the unique opportunity to do things like narcotic search training on old vessels in the shipyard. The Coast Guard gets involved too.(their LED and Port Security teams)
I have actually been considering a transfer over to the Port Security Det.
After 9 yrs on jump statis, 20 bucks just dosen't sound that good, especially compared to the active duty jump pay we got.
Besides, I got my Master Blasters.
Good luck with joining and the Q,
Door Kicker

[dk57]

Hey

I'm looking to join NG SF as an officer (no prior service). I've been talking to the guys from the 19th in Rhode Island, and from the 20th in Mass. and Maryland. Basically, I've been told I can go to OCS, serve in an infantry unit until 1LT, and then apply for SF. But I've read somewhere that 2LT can serve in NF SF units. Is this true? Any suggestions?
Thanks

[Ler]

Doorkicker, Thanks again for the reply and the info. Can you tell me what some of the typical AT deployments to South/Central America are like or involve? Thanks,,Ler..

[Door Kicker]

dk57 and Ler,
I'll answer both questions the best I can.
dk, yes 2nd LT's can serve in SF.
You have two options:
1. after OCS, branch infantry and get in the NQP program in a line company.
2. branch a support MOS (you have to check available slots/very limited) and serve in a B team capactiy until you make 1st LT and then transfer to the line company and train in the NQP program.
In #2 you actually participate in deployments and learn alot about Special Operations. In #1 you are actually what it says, a Non Qualified Person. NQP's do not deploy in any capacity, in some cases, you can't even go to jump school until after SFAS.
In a support role, you will actually deploy in real world missions.
For example, FED missions like running Airborne, Jumpmaster, and HALO schools down range. Also basic infantry training (small unit tactics) for the LBG's (little brown guys)
Every time I deployed out of the country while with 7th SF, 20th Group was there in some capacity. And on most of the state side deployments too.
Good Luck guys,
Door Kicker

[Ler]

Thanks DK, How are the basic ATs when go down to Central/South America to train others on basic Inf Tactics? Is it an interesting deployment? As a 20th GRPer will you be actively participating in the training itself(being that you are Q'ed)? Thanks,,Ler..

[dk57]

Doorkicker, thanks for the info. Just a few more questions: How does the NQP program work? Would it be better to serve as a platoon leader in, say, a LRS unit and then apply to SF at 1LT? As I try to work this out, should I work with a recruiter or the SF unit itself?
Thanks again.

[Door Kicker]

Hey guys,
I was away (at drill) this weekend, and just getting back into the swing of things.
Well, on down range deployments, it varies what your job will actually be, but basically the best way to train someone is to show them how it is done and do it with them. Keep in mind that you are usually in a hostile territory so no blanks here.
Our involvement varries mission depending.
Basically we train them and go out and do it with them.
Since being SF we try to work to build trust from foreign nationals, our work is titled "joint training" at least in this region.
The latin culture is very proud, they never admit that we school them, but that we train together. Sometimes, after we are done with a particular excercise, they actually "train" a select number of us.
Being a low ranked member gives you the opportunity to attend much of this training.
i.e while in Ecuador I attended their comando school as a result of this type of "joint training"
I liked it and actually get to wear this badge on my class A's.

Being in the NQP program will give you alot of training, but will prevent you from going to on any real deployments. Remember if you branch support for a B team, you still go on deployments.
You will have to decide where you are lacking and what you need help with.
I would sugest that you work directly with the SF unit of choice. I would also sugest that you enlist into that unit, attend SFAS and then OCS afterwards. Just me though.
Both routes have there merits, email me direct and I'll try to explain in more detail.
Door Kicker

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[Ler]

Hey Door Kicker, Thanks for explaining, what's your email? Ler

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[Whammer]

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