MOS Nomenclature Question

[Dark Helmet]

This is for the green beenies out there:

What is the "Oscar" in the following MOS?

18D4OW7

I know the 18D is SF weapons, 4 is SL 4 or E7, and the W7 is Scuba....what is the Oscar in between the 4 and W?

If the trooper were Ranger qual'd, he'd be a Victor, and to my knowledge there is no such animal as an 18D4QW7 (Q being Ranger but not airborne qual'd), as the SF MOS guys would have basic airborne at a minimum to hold those the 18 series CMF.....

Help me out?

TackDaBoat
11B2V

[gear_guru]

G is a leg ranger, not Q. It is really 0 (zero) not an O (oscar). Any missing digits are zeros. They don't use the P because they are required to be airborne qualified as part of their MOS. I am suprised there isn't an L there for linguist since every one is required to take the DLPT at least out of the course and they give an L to you for getting at least a 1. You didn't have a language code at the end tho so that explains that I guess.

[Dark Helmet]

Roger, Gear Guru. Thanks.

Stand corrected on the leg Ranger SSI.

[Jeff Rambo]

And to put what GG said in "simpler terms" O/Oscar would mean no special qualifications.

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[Jeff Rambo]

Q by the way is EOA.

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[Jeff Rambo]

Just realized one more thing ...

18D is SF Medic, not SF Weapons SGT (18B)

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[jeff]

You'll only get the "L" for graduating from DLI. Simply taking the DLPT and going through basic stuff after the Q course doesn't cut it. You'll get the two letter code at the end of your MOS. For instance. 18B4W8CX(czech)
Jeff

[E19]

Originally posted by gear_guru:
It is really 0 (zero) not an O (oscar). Any missing digits are zeros.


You are incorrect...it is "O" (Oscar) for "No Special Qualifications"

E19 OUT

[gear_guru]

I stand corrected...E19 is absolutely correct. Oscar is No Special Qualifications. Sorry about that. There are a few numberical SQIs but the only one I have ever seen used is 4 for Non-Career Recruiter. As far as L goes, you don't have to be a DLI grad to have it. You just have to be in a linguist coded position. I have seen 18s who didn't go to DLI with an L. Remember, an entire MOS is 9 digits long.

[This message has been edited by gear_guru (edited 10-28-2000).]

[EODestruction]

I THOUGHT IT WAS A ZERO BUT IT GOES WITH THE
FOUR. FOR EXAMPLE 10,20,30,40 LEVEL IS THE SKILL LEVEL. E1-E4 10 LEVEL,E5 20 LEVEL E-6 30 LEVEL IS THIS NOT CORRECT?

AND YOU CAN GET THE LIMA IDENTIFIER WITH OUT THE DLA IF YOU TAKE THE DLPT AND SCORE HIGH ENOUGH I THINK IT IS 2 2 YOU PUT IN A 4187 REQUEST FOR THE IDENTIFIER AND YOU SHOULD GET IT.

[Jeff Rambo]

GG,

Just my OWN HUMBLE opinion, but I wouldn't even bother mentioning the T SQI in open fourms even though its public info, or else every gumby dipshit and their illegitiment (sp?) kids will go around with various MOS horning the T SQI and living 10,000 miles away from Bragg to boot if you get my drift ...


Just my $.02,
- Out

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[Jeff Rambo]

And btw, I believe the only numeric SQIs still in use are: 2- TD, 4- N-CR, 6- MADO.

- Out

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[RKW]

Originally posted by gear_guru:
By the way, my fav SQI remains T, and no I never had it.


Its hush, hush, but also on About.com...

[gear_guru]

Better?

[This message has been edited by gear_guru (edited 10-28-2000).]

[JY]

Jeff;

Think G.G.already started it http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/rolleyes.gif

take care...Jim, Sine Pari

[This message has been edited by JY (edited 10-28-2000).]

[jeff]

I'm going to need some clarification on this L-thing. I was 18B for some years and never did I have a "L" on my MOS. Only after graduating DLI did i recieve the coveted "L". Now I agree about the possibility that a rating of 2/2 my qualify you for it but simply being in a language coded position, i'm not so sure.
This is purely military trivia, I'm not expert at this, but it makes for interesting talk when your in a hide-site for a week.
Jeff

[Jeff Rambo]

Yep RKW ... like I said, its non-classified info, but it is still better (IMO) to keep it on the DL as much as possible to limit the surplus of wannabes out there.

- Out

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[gear_guru]

The reason you got it after graduating DLI is because it was a TRADOC school. Kind of like when you graduated jump school and they cut you P orders. If you qualified on your own outside of DLI you needed to submit a 4187.

[jeff]

all right, i'll buy that. My wife was a 98G, she said my idea was all f**ked up. I liked your explanation better. How would I have qualified before I went? I had already been to a Polish course after the Q-course, so if I'd put the 4187 in i'd been awarded the much sought after "L" :-)

[gear_guru]

All you needed to do to qualify was attain a 1/1 on the DLPT.

[Dark Helmet]

Originally posted by E19:

You are incorrect...it is "O" (Oscar) for "No Special Qualifications"


Stumbled across a web page supporting this:
http://usmilitary.about.com/careers/usmilitary/library/milinfo/blarmyenlskillids.htm

[RKW]

Reading down I got to the 'W' section. I knew what the other W ASIs were, but I didnt know what one meant.
W5 OH­58D QUALIFICATION

Any insight into this? Or is it OPSEC?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
RKW

[Jeff Rambo]

RKW,

The OH­58D is one of (if not the) most advanced helicopters in the Army today, as well the newest if I'm not mistaken. It's main purpose is armed reconnaissance. I'm almost sure that Bell Helicopter Textron got the contract for them ... so thats that.

It's "nickname" is either Kiowah Warrior or Kiowa Warrior ... not sure on the spelling.

You can probably find some info and pics on it if you do a search on the web I'm sure. And I believe FLTCRW possibly might be able to give you some more info on it.

Hope this helps, take Care.

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[Jeff Rambo]

Just did some hunting myself .... and came up with this:

http://www2.msstate.edu/~jbc4/IMAGES/oh58d1.jpg

Some more info: http://www2.msstate.edu/~jbc4/company.html (Also confirms that BHT did get the contract, and it is the newest helo in the Army)

- Out

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[FLTCREW1]

Originally posted by Jeff Rambo:
(Also confirms that......., and it is the newest helo in the Army)

Well, they weren't telling the whole truth now were they, LOL http://www.boeing.com/rotorcraft/military/rah66/

NSDQ

[Jeff Rambo]

LOL FLT ... Roger. Thanks for clearing that up ... guess it was outdated, and I remember reading the info on the OH58D a year and a half ago, so I was outdated myself. Thats one reason I said you'd be able to shed more light to it.

BTW ... does that RAH-66 Comanche come with AC and a Digital FM Radio? LOL ... might have to find a local dealership ... looks pretty nice.

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[FLTCREW1]

Originally posted by RKW:
W5 OH­58D QUALIFICATION
Any insight into this? Or is it OPSEC?
Thanks for any help you can offer.
RKW

I believe it is for the 67S's (OH-58 mechanics) that transition to OH-58D's
The main difference is that ball on the top of the 58D.

NSDQ

[FLTCREW1]

Jeff,
I have not had the pleasure of getting up close to one, according to the article on that sight, they are not suppose to hit service until 2006.

NSDQ

[Jeff Rambo]

Rog

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