Any MFF instructors out there?

[18C4V]

I heard that there's lots of slots available due to most units being deployed. Any truth to that? I'm trying to get a slot or do a stand by after this deployment. I already have a current MFF physcial and a chamber card. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

[baboonass]

Ha Ha funny. Go through the channels Einstien!

So your unit's mission doesn't rate priority, get a new job. Or stand in line with the other 50 SF guys on standby.

[Sinister Dave]

It's not as ridiculous as it sounds. There were several times when we used to in-process new classes at the SWC auditorium and there were empty spaces (back in 84-87). I'd literally go out into the hallway and yell "Anybody got a valid HALO Physical and Chamber Card want in this class?" Usually the smart team sergeants (like Johnny King and Bruce Fairman) would have a pair of his studs standing in the door ready to go.

[baboonass]

My comments relate to my experience.. in 97 there were 40+ SF guys standing by in the hopes someone no showed or had dicked up paperwork.

[18C4V]

Hey ass,
My whole BN is deployed and my team is deployed over here. So i guess my group doesn't rate priority. There's a shit load of SF guys here and more going to other places. So what does that tell me? Who's going to all these schools since most of the Groups are deployed or getting ready to deploy? Are you going to send someone to MFF when you're team is getting ready to deploy? I think not. I think instead of 50 SF guys waiting in line it's probably a lot less than that.

[18C4V]

I think you and I have a mutual friend. I will PM you.

[baboonass]

C'mon guy

I didn't make the system I offer sour commentary on it all. You and I both know how billets are slotted according to MOA's and other pre-arranged agreements within your and with sister services. Get your ATTARs(sp?) hound on the scent.
I went to MFF with a few combat vet NSW/ARSOF guys, random SOF guys, and unproven 19y/o CTT/PJ candidates. Its hardly based on personal merit.
If your unit needed a MFF capability in country you'd have it. Billet prioritzation doesn't take away from recognition of you or your teamates work or the understanding that riding a shitty optempo sucks. It's the theme of things now.
Everybody's busy now, and my comment on the 40 SF guys was period specific. I didn't see other units giving their guys the option to try to slip in.

[SATCOM]

Originally posted by baboonass

I went to MFF with a few combat vet NSW/ARSOF guys, random SOF guys, and unproven 19y/o CTT/PJ candidates. Its hardly based on personal merit.

Just exactly where in the SWC requirements to attend the MFF does it mention that you have to be "proven" as a prerequisite? I'm referring to your comment on CCT/PJ candidates. You're dead-on with the average age of a CCT/PJ guy that goes to HALO, and that's the nature of our pipeline.

Blue Skies

[dueterium]

At the 15 year mark (12 in SF) I finally got my slot in 98. I'm sure I was the only guy there sweating the record check. I showed up 4 days early just to make sure my stamp was good. The instructor said " okay your a go, go take a seat" and I literally had to make sure I wasn't going to hyperventilate. I looked around and to my left was a 22 year old SEAL, to my right was a, very hung-over, 19 year-old CCT candidate. When the class filled up I was one of 5 SF guys out of huge class. The other 4 SF guys were like me, grinning from ear to ear. Had a bud just go through and he said the same thing. Next to SFARTAETC it’s the best school I've ever been to. Do what it takes to get in.

PS Went to MFFJM 9mos later needing only a waiver for TOS and passed JMPI first go. Making up for lost time.

[RLTW]

Yeah, baboonass is dead-on about prioritization of quotas to the folks that need them....I had my reservation for over a year..and about 1 month out..yanked it..gave it to NG SF... I would have started on 21 Oct 02...but, studs out there needed it more than me, for I am just in a lowly NG LRS detachment...It pissed me off, but then i realized that others needed it lots more than me..so..I got over it. But I do have a current physical and chamber card if anyone has any suggestions!LOL!!
DRP

[Billy L-bach]

Its not really a question of 'how many people show up...
Its more a question of how many people we have out here to jump them. If we have 40 hard slots out of a possible 48 but only enough instructors available for 42 students, we only fill 2 standby slots.
If you are going to try getting in as a standby, call the ATRRS manager at USASOC, and try going through him. He is the one that tells us who the standby slots get filled by. If you just show up at the door on day 1 your chances are slim at best. I could count on one hand how many standbys we have pulled in from the hallway in the last 3 years. Now, even the standby slots are run through USASOC. It is better for all in the longrun... it keeps the instructors from being tempted to 'pad' the standby list with buddies.

Good luck however you go... hope you get a slot.

[SOG-CCS-vet]

Originally posted by Sinister Dave
It's not as ridiculous as it sounds. There were several times when we used to in-process new classes at the SWC auditorium and there were empty spaces (back in 84-87). I'd literally go out into the hallway and yell "Anybody got a valid HALO Physical and Chamber Card want in this class?" Usually the smart team sergeants (like Johnny King and Bruce Fairman) would have a pair of his studs standing in the door ready to go.

Hmmmm.... I was on the committee from '79 to '85, and I know Johnnie and Bruce very well.

I'm the guy who had the going away party from hell... tied to the pool table... :-)

MFFI-113 :cool:

[frogstyle]

The MFF politics turn and turn...

[baboonass]

Ha...

Just caught SatCom's quibe....

It doesn't dummy, that's the point!

[cj]

Anybody remember E-6 type T. Miller at MFF JM instructor; 96-99 time frame? If so please PM.