fraudulent medals

[SixfootTwo]

Yesterday while visiting a local Army/Navy store I found the following items for sale.

1 Medal of Honor priced @ $200
1 Navy Cross priced @ $185
2 Silver Star priced @ $140 each

I have seen Purple Hearts, Bronze Starts, Kuwait Liberation Medals ect. ect. for sale before, but never Navy Crosses, or an MOH.

Anyways, it pissed me off, so I bought all of them. I was wondering what would be the proper way to dispose of them (bury, burn?) and to what agency I could report these fuckers to for selling an MOH?

Thanx in advance

[Gary]

http://www.fbi.gov/fbinbrief/tour/medalhonor/medal.htm

Get em!

[Jeff Rambo]

What firm are you with 6'2? jefframbo@mediaone.net

[Harry56]

I was always under the impression that MOH' were marked with a type of serial number or some i.d. (?)(!)
Could have been a family member sold it, and if that's the case, and they have no pride in their past history then their name should be striped from them and their ass handed to them for selling such a priceless heirloom.

[Gary]

Lordship Ind. that makes the actual MOH medals was caught a few years ago by the FBI for making and selling hundreds of MOH's. There are a lot still out there but the FBI is making an effort to get them all.

[E19]

Gary,

Title 18, United States Code, Section 704 prohibits the unauthorized wearing, manufacturing or selling of all military awards. Violators of this statute face a fine of up to $100,000 and or imprisoned up to one year.

Why does the military sell tons of "surplus"
medals to the higest bidder if it is illegal
to sell them? The medals are sold on eBay like they are going out of style.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

I remember the US CAV store off base at Ft Campbell had a Medal of Honor for sale with its other medals. Obviously it's illegal to wear it, but is it really illegal to sell or buy it? You refer to "Title 18, United States Code, Section 704" which prohibits the unauthorized wearing, manufacturing or selling of all military awards. But does that just refer to those companies not contracted by the government? I'm not planning on manufacturing them in my basement... I'm just curious.

[HmtPD2]

All kidding aside, I thought Tiffany's jewlers of New York made the MOH on a need only basis.

[JSOCMarine]

The law changed about 10 years ago. Dealers can now sell all military medals except the MOH. Before that it was illegal and you never saw them in catalogs,etc., but you always saw them at flea markets,surplus stores,etc.

It was actually the VFW, AL and other veteran groups that approached the government asking for the law to be changed. Many WWII vets wanted to give each grandkid,etc., a set of their medals but the government will only issue one set. So, the law was changed and dealers started selling them with the rest of their militaria.

Obviously, it is easy for phonies to buy medals they don't rate and wear them. There's not much one can do to stop this anymore than you can stop them from buying jump wings, berets, t-shirts, rings,etc. Phonies will always find a way to legitimize their bullshit stories. I understand that currently there are many counterfiet DD214's and award citations showing up because modern scanning technology enables one to reproduce altered documents.

There is a group that hunts down phony MOH wearers. It is headed by Mitchell Paige, a Marine WWII MOH recipient. They have caught some shameful idiots passing themselves off as heroes. S/F

[E19]

Originally posted by JSOCMarine:
The law changed about 10 years ago. Dealers can now sell all military medals except the MOH. the law was changed and dealers started selling them with the rest of their militaria.


Someone should clue in the FBI because their official website references the outdated statute.
http://www.fbi.gov/fbinbrief/tour/medalhonor/medal.htm

It's sad when an agency charged with enforcing the law doesn't know the law was changed.

[Sapper12B]

In all fairness to the FBI, their website may not reflect current policies and procedures due to the tremendous overload of case files right now. I am sure they are aware of the law.

[Frog]

Originally posted by E19:
Someone should clue in the FBI because their official website references the outdated statute.
http://www.fbi.gov/fbinbrief/tour/medalhonor/medal.htm

It's sad when an agency charged with enforcing the law doesn't know the law was changed.



No need to worry about the FBI. They are all over phony CMOH scum. SSA Tom Cantone makes a personal effort to track down all MOH phonies AND phony medals. I attended the 1999 CMOH Dinner and the Hotel which hosted the dinner some how obtained a MOH and put it in a display case to promote the dinner. When he saw it, he confronted the management and promptly confiscated it, as it could not be traced to an actual recipient.

[E19]

Originally posted by Sapper12B:
In all fairness to the FBI, their website may not reflect current policies and procedures due to the tremendous overload of case files right now. I am sure they are aware of the law.

Fairness??????If the law changed about 10 years ago there is NO EXCUSE for the old statute being on their website.