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NWPTrainer
1 April 2003, 06:40
Okay, I gotta get this of my chest....I was up late last night browsing the web, bored outta my mind.
As some of ya'll know, I am a personal trainer and self-defense instructor. So, I was looking for different sites on the subject of combatives and stuff, looking for "new" training drills to help give my students an extra edge....
I never realized how many motherfuckers there are out there that are the "official hand-to-hand instructor for -insert SOCOM unit of choice here-"
I mean, holy fuckin shit! DoD must have hired one contractor per SOCOM operator! THis is a bunch of horseshit! When I was at 1st Batt, we got a little Judo from one guy, some boxing from another, some muay THai from this guy, and maybe some Sambo from this one...Most of it though, came from either mixing it up with other joes in the barracks, fuckin around, or brawling on River Street or up in Statesboro...
All these fuckers claiming to be SOCOM official trainers pisses me off fo two reasons:
#1: I don't like motherfuckers lying about how high sped they are and hanging on my friends coattalis to do it...I see them in the same light I do as the phony wanna bes.
#2: I hate seeing people get snowed by lying fuckers out for a buck.

SO, for all the non-BTDTs out there who aspire to one day be an ass-kicking, name-taking, heart-breaking, bad ass BTDT, herre's the scoop-

There is NO super secret squirrel martial arts system!

Actually, thats not true. There is. It's the same one that's been used by all elite warriors since before Alex decided to conquer the world. It applies whether the fight is mano a mano in an alley behind the bar, or the 3d ID kickin the piss outta Iraqis in the desert. The secret? Hundreds of thousands of repetitions of THE BASICS, combined with an absolute, overwhelming, total conviction that "ain't no motherfucker-or ten motherfuckers- gonna stop me from accomplishing my mission!"

It doesn't really matter if you study Brazilizn Ju-Jitsu, or MMA, or WW2 Combatives, or 'who-flung-poo kung fu.' Learn the basics and practice them over and over and over and over-ad nauseum.
Every one of us (well, not EVERY one of us, but...) has two arms, two legs, a torso, and a head. There is a finite number of ways to move them through space in order to make contact with another body.

So, quit looking for a super secret squirrel death touch martial art. Learn to punch, kick, wrestle, and bite and gouge, and do PT, and you'll have it mastered. Then practice them over and over and over, etc....

Oh, and remember the #1 commandment of the Super secret SOCOM martial art: 5.56mmNATO beats a fist every single fuckin time....

Out here!
RLTW

Sorry about the rant, but I was getting pissed and had to get it off my chest.

Olsson
1 April 2003, 10:24
Amen.

Olsson
-ugly mudsucking ruckhumping grunt; Airborne type: 1ea.

"We have everything we need: food, water and ammo. We can shoot, move and communicate. What else is there?" -Lt Col. Oliver North 03/30/03

Daredevil
1 April 2003, 10:40
They probably had one SOF guy come in for a few classes out of curiosity. Suddenly they've trained SEALs/Special Forces/etc.

namor
1 April 2003, 10:45
Amen! This is a long overdue rant!!

Bohr Adam
1 April 2003, 13:20
THis is one of the best rants on the subject I have ever read. You sir, are the man.

Daredevil: It seems to be a combination of:

A) what you suggested,

B) some particular unit asks a local instructor or even more well-known national or international instrcutor (Gracies, for example) to teach a unit for a period of time. The unit sees this aa an opportunity for variety and to possibly add skill to a particular individual's skill set - yet the instructor interprets it has his thing being the new "standard." (the same BS is out there with gear - just look at all of the "official issue" shit that says that because it was once assigned an NSN and is or was once available through the system should a unit decide to buy it, regarldess of whther any unit is actually currently using it)

C) outright bullshit, ala the fake Seals, etc. that seem to be everywhere (I am kind of jealous, nobody pretends to be me :( )


Adam (Blue belt in 2ID Taekwondo - whoopdee fucking doo:rolleyes: )

Doctor_Doom
1 April 2003, 13:45
Just sent that out to a few friends of mine in my martial arts class. Thanks NWPTrainer!

Also, your advice about finding a personal trainer was spot on; I am working now with a former Marine who knows his sh*t...

NWPTrainer
1 April 2003, 15:56
Thanks for the kudos guys....I did forget one other important aspect of the strategy of the secret art fort all the wanna-bes.....

RUle #1: There are no rules.
Rule #2: The best weapon you have in a hand to hand encounter is your ranger buddy holding a locked and loaded M4 SOPMOD.
Rule #3: The fundamentals of warfare are the same three no matter what scale the war is on: SPEED, SURPRISE, and VIOLENCE of ACTION! Remember those three things and you'll do just fine.

There is a reason that we all have ranger buddies and your PSG and SLs and TLs preached endlessly about not going beaver huntin without a ranger buddy......

RLTW

Andy0331
2 April 2003, 02:55
Great post!

One of the funniest things about many of these trainers is how they have become "persona non grata" with the various organizations they have "trained".

I fucking hate them!! Many of them have cost my friends & I money in the past because someone believed their bullshit.

Slowly but surely they are exposed, too bad they still get to steal money from the unsuspecting.

Andy