Marines In Rangers

[MT]

Was reading the SOC-List mesage on the results of the 2000 Best Ranger competition and have to ask. One of the competitors was a Marine Gunnery Sergeant from 5th RTB. Why are Marines acting as instructors at Ranger School?

[JOE-BOO]

POLITICS....the military is becoming more joint...more and more personel from all the branches are filling TDA slots spce up the Training commands and loan perspectives.
Marines and SEALS are also Airborne Instructors

[Whammer]

Don't forget your friendly neighborhood AF Chief Master Technical SGT as a blackhat.

[Rigger]

At rigger school there're instructors from the army, marines, air force and navy.

[RAT]

They are not so much a instructor as a lasion for that branch... Marines fell better talking and looking after Marines, SEALS to SEALS so forth...Air men to Air men... Save money for the services... Marine Corps in 50's had it's own jump school but Army want all airborne op's... It's just the way it is.
RAT OUT!!!

[0802]

Rat:
there are some exceptions to the Liaison function. Here at Fort Sill, the head of the Officer Instruction Branch is a Marine Major. The head of the Fire Support and Combined Arms Department is a Marine LtCol. The Army has intentionally understaffed the instructor billets here, with the understanding the Marine Corps sill send more instructors than TO authorization. There are more Marine instructors in two of the three branches of Officer instruction at the Army's Field Artillery School than there are army instructors. The Corps benefits from this by not having to pay for sending Lt to the school or the ammunition our Cannoneer students shoot.

[JSOCMarine]

I am not sure that this info is accurate, but I recently heard that there has been a Marine Gunny serving as as instructor (not merely a liaison) for the Mountain Phase of Ranger School. As I said, I do not know if this info is accurate. Perhaps PolyPro knows what the deal is.

It is not unusual for services to have to provide personnel to serve as instructors or staff members at schools run by another service. I think it is getting more common. S/F.

[realpolypro]

Marine Corps, and Air force. Not liaison's, actually in the...Hollis Branch Creek and the TVD http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif Probably the same with FL Camp.

Polypro

[josepy]

Can any of you imagine if it was the other way around?

Say a SEAL instructor in ARC or a Army guy as a 1st Mar Div sniper instructor?

[realpolypro]

Why not? Anyone that knows something I don't...bring it on! Learn, learn, learn...You can never be too smart.

Polypro

[RangerTom]

There are Marine RIs (Ranger Instructors) in RTB, specificly mountain phase, Gunny Seik, at least as of 97. I also had a Marine Recon and a SEAL Black Hat at Airborne school in 98. Yeah yeah, I know, I spent a year as a leg Ranger, Ha ha.

[This message has been edited by RangerTom (edited 07-24-2000).]

[JPT]

Some of you guys have been out of the loop for a while... When I went through BRC in 95' we had two Army instructors from the 75th Ranger Regt. Some of the class pics in the class room had pictures of past CCT and SF instructors at BRC. Just recently there was a SEAL at BRC as an instructor. There have been Marine Corps instructors at Ranger, Jump, and MFF for quite a while. At least two Marine Corps Force Reconnaissance officers have been the OIC of SF Officer Selection at the Q course. I could be wrong, but I believe Tracy knew Gen. Nash when he was the OIC at Q course. I believe that "jointness" is not a bad idea, because we can all learn something from our peers from other services/units. Just my opinion...

[Tracy]

Steve Anderson and Gordon Nash, both Force Recce Officers, were OICs of the SF Officer's Committee. I worked with Anderson longer than Nash; but I was the Operations Sergeant on the SFOC during that time frame.

Both were outstanding officers. Actually, having Marines in charge of the SFOC played to our advantage: every time we did something unusual, we'd just say that's how the Marines did it. Sometimes it took the chain of command several months to formulate a reply; which by then we were doing something else...

[Ranger002]

Having been out of the loop for a while I am stoked that the services are working together. It should mean lives will be saved and missions accopmlished and that does us all proud.
William Hazen (From the days of white underwear.) B 2/75 Ranger C 3/12 SFGA(R)