anyone taken Krav Maga?

[sta marine]

Guys,
Let me start this off by saying I LOVE MMA! I like most of you have dabbled with many arts. I wrestled for many years and made the natural transition to BJJ, and I love it. (although my training has been real hit and miss for a long while. I traveled for work) anyway, for stand-up I like Muay-Thai. Before I go any further I'm not that good at either, I don't want to come off like some wannabe or poser. I have recently started looking into some diffrent arts.

I don't really know how well the grappling thing would work if there were a knife involved. A friend and I tried to roll using a rubber knife and It added a whole diffrent aspect to the game. Its so easy to lose track of hands while rolling. Needless to say I got stabbed and cut alot. (a blade in your ass is a great guard escape) And the guard isn't someplace I wanna be if theres multiple attackers. So that being said has anyone taken Krav Maga? And if so what did you think?

[DarkDeception]

Let me give you some valuable advice:

Before you learn the advanced arts of self defense, i.e. JJ, NJ, etc etc, get the basics down.

you have to know how to kick\punch someone for maximum damage before you can learn to disarm a armed individual, possibly having a knife or firearm.

Get advanced in TKD/Karate/or Judo..

If you are looking at the arm grapple aspect of self defense, and wanting to be able to throw/inflict pain thru pressure points, take Judo, as Judo is a great tool for those who wish to learn arm grapples and the like.

Reactive Knife courses are very hard, especially if you are slow on reactions, and have poor eye/hand coordination, trust me, I teach it.

if you have any specific questions, shoot me a PM, and Ill get back asap.

[sta marine]

Originally posted by DarkDeception
Let me give you some valuable advice:

Before you learn the advanced arts of self defense, i.e. JJ, NJ, etc etc, get the basics down.

you have to know how to kick\punch someone for maximum damage before you can learn to disarm a armed individual, possibly having a knife or firearm.

Get advanced in TKD/Karate/or Judo..

If you are looking at the arm grapple aspect of self defense, and wanting to be able to throw/inflict pain thru pressure points, take Judo, as Judo is a great tool for those who wish to learn arm grapples and the like.

Reactive Knife courses are very hard, especially if you are slow on reactions, and have poor eye/hand coordination, trust me, I teach it.


QUOTE]Originally posted by DarkDeception
Let me give you some valuable advice:

Before you learn the advanced arts of self defense, i.e. JJ, NJ, etc etc, get the basics down.

you have to know how to kick\punch someone for maximum damage before you can learn to disarm a armed individual, possibly having a knife or firearm.

Get advanced in TKD/Karate/or Judo..

If you are looking at the arm grapple aspect of self defense, and wanting to be able to throw/inflict pain thru pressure points, take Judo, as Judo is a great tool for those who wish to learn arm grapples and the like.

Reactive Knife courses are very hard, especially if you are slow on reactions, and have poor eye/hand coordination, trust me, I teach it.

if you have any specific questions, shoot me a PM, and Ill get back asap.

Pretty much got the basics down bro. 19 years of wrestling, 5 on and off with the stand up... Judo. I've taken Judo, and it was ok. I don't like to bad mouth other arts in public, but I just felt it was too restricted. The first time I went to Judo class they put me on the mat because I wrestled. Well they forgot to tell me the rules. So I got this big Gi on, and this guy comes walking at me with his arms out... Well I shoot a great double legs boom hes down, and Im moving.. THEN they tell me you can't do that...It was cool, but there was too much of you can't do that...nope that either.

Thai boxing. I got the basics there too. I use it to supplement my grappling. I think I can use it well enough to close the distance, and shoot. or get into the clinch and throw some good knees and elbows. But Im not that great...(however if I do get a chance to lay my shin upside someones lead leg and its clean...oooohhhh)

Karate. No karate here. I really don't like it... anytime I can walk into a dojo and see a 10 year old black belt...no. Not taking anything away from the guys that practice it. shit might be the best thing in the world, but I dont get alot of the stances.. and hand positions. horse stance...I dont know the name of some others.

TKD not sure I know what that is.. I know JKD and thats essentially mixed martial arts. Never taken it. But I would.

Thats the reason I asked about Krav Maga. I dont know anyone whos taken it. and the rant about knifes. that was just me saying theres a diffrence between a street fight and ring fight.

I'm an instructor too (force protection, anti-terrorism) and I KNOW that if your ever in a knife fight your gonna get cut...
I like the Richard Pryor self defense theory. If somebody pulls out a knife or gun on you, and you can't pull out nothing but a hand with some skin on it...run. Ok well let me know what you think.

if you have any specific questions, shoot me a PM, and Ill get back asap. [/QUOTE]

[Sean0352]

STA

TKD...Tae Kwon Do. You know the same place as the 10 year old Karate black belt....the Korean version

[sta marine]

oh no shit. No not gonna do that one either

[DarkDeception]

Im sorry, I meant TQD:) Tae Queer Do, but some people like it, so I mention it.

[Colt1911fan]

I think if you can find a good dojo, TKD or Karate is ok. But those are hard to find. Most TKD dojos in the US focus on sports not what we are interested in. Karate is only marginally better. But then again I have not been in a big city with a good selection of schools.

Currently I study jujitsu, it suits me and my needs. When I get more experience, I may add kenpo or something like that to round out my skills.

[Hoepoe]

Hi

I've studied Krav Maga and used in in real life situations, it's not what id call a martial art in the far-eastern understanding. It's a quick effecive, dirty way to win.

It can be learnt relatively quickly and entails skills taken from, Judo, Karate (kyokushin-kai) , kick boxing and more.

http://www.krav-maga.org/uk/index.htm
http://www.krav-maga.com/

If you want to learn a practical art that can be used in a real life situation in a short time, give it a try, it's very good, very aggressive and works.

Good Luck
Hoepoe

[rubberneck]

Let me first start by saying that I have never served in the armed services but have a great deal of respect for those that do. The BTDT can feel free to tell to fuck off.:D

I have studied various martial arts over the past 20 years and can say that Krav Maga is the best system I have ever studied. Unlike just about every other martial art Krav Maga is a living system. By that I mean that the IDF has a group of Krav Maga experst who sit around at the Wingate institute and think of ways to improve the practical aspects of the art. Since Isreal has been in a state of war (more or less) for the past 60 years they have been able to gain real world experience in what works and what doesn't.

Krav Maga is a simple straight forward system that never calls on a student to do something that they aren't capable of doing and you won't waste hours learning katas that you will never use in the real world. One of the greatest thing about it (IMHO) is that it calls for you to be extremely aggressive. The whole concept of the system is to employ violence of action to neutralize your opponent as quickly as possible. The more aggressive you are the more effective the system becomes.

The only real downside to Krav Maga is that you won't spend alot of time on the ground. The emphasis of the art is to drop your opponent a quickly as possible and get out of Dodge. Getting into a tussle on the gound leaves you vunerable if your opponent has a buddy around. Since I wrestled and studied JJ it isn't a big deal for me to be on the gorund.

Finally, if you are interested in studying Krav Maga be very careful about who you choose to study with. My instructor spent 18 years learning the system directly from Imi Side-Or and Hiam Zut, the man who founded and his assistant. There are some schools here in the states that allow people with a martial arts background to spend a couple grand and two weeks in an instructor course to open up a studio and call themselves Krav Maga "experts". After training 4 days a week for three years it pisses me off to no end when I come accross a teacher that doesn't have a clue. If you are really interested in studying Krav shoot me a PM and I will see if the instructor is a shake and bake or if he put the time in and knows what he is doing.

Thats my opinion FWIW, which with $1.00 won't buy you a cup of coffee nowadays:)

[sta marine]

I've actually read the History of Krav Maga and its founder. the book was good showed some moves, but I need a dojo to learn them. Looks like a little of everything, trapping,knees, elbows. I see and people have posted that there is little grappling, I think maybe thats because in a life or death struggle the ground is the last place you want to be. It really opens you up to a lot of stuff. thanks

[desertdiz]

StaMarine:
I am not a wup-sum-ass grand master or anything, but have dabbled in the MA's myself over the years and would highly recommend KM as a good H2H system. The emphasis is entirely on street self-defense. Two things you will take away from training are self-defense techniques and conditioning. I trained at a KM center for a year and it was some of the best training I ever had. If you go to the forum at kravmaga.com they will tell you where the nearest training center to you is.