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Mr.Hooah?
21 November 2000, 15:52
Gentlemen:
1)What is the current SOF/Ranger standards for a 10K ruckmarch? And what is the average (yours, etc.)?
2)I've read all previous posts, but am still curious... Approx. what were the attrition rates for each of your (for you Rangers) respective RS classes?

I understand that none of this matters if you have the heart, but I'm just trying to compare some numbers. Thanks in advance.

Regards,
Mr.Hooah?

Ranger002
21 November 2000, 17:16
A. There is no such thing as a 10k Ruck MARCH in the Batt.( I'll bet you think I am kidding but I am not) If it's only 10 K then you'll find most Rangers running not marching. For a 12 MILE Ruck march most Rangers will shoot for an under 2 hour time frame (except for best Ranger Contestants who will do 30 miles with 55+ pounds in about 6 hours or so LOL)
B. Fall out ( in Ranger School... better to ask POLYPRO this question) depends on the class cohesion. A good class will graduate near 50%. A bad one about 25%. Mine 14-80 started 240 graduated 60. IT WAS ALL WEST POINTERs except for me and few foreign students ha ha ha ha ha
William Hazen

Tracy
21 November 2000, 18:48
Believe-or-not, at one time the Ruck March time standard had a formula:

Determine the distance to march (e.g. 12 miles);

Determine the time required to cover the distance at 4 miles an hour(12/4 = 3 hours);

Subtract 10 minutes for every whole hour time (3 hours x 10 minutes = 30 minutes; subtracted from 3 hours = 2 hours 30 minutes).

Thus, the time standard for a 12 mile march is 2 hours, 30 minutes. About 12-13 minutes a mile.

ARSOF came up with this formula for two reasons: Not all routes were exactly 12 miles long; so the formula could help determine a time. Regular Infantry standard was 4 miles/hour; ARSOF wanted a tougher standard.

10th SF Group used it for their 75 mile validation march: Three 25-mile legs, one leg per day. Each leg had to be completed in 5.25 hours. Every 12.5 miles there was a mandatory stop for a skill test on various subjects. The stop didn't count against your time, but you only had one hour to complete the tasks.

Kicked my ass, but my team finished first or second every year.

realpolypro
22 November 2000, 06:00
Haze-man, you're pretty close. The trouble is you can't go by the numbers on grad day vs. what the class started with, because of the inserts and recycles that get added. Sr TAC would have the actual % for any class, ie. started AND FINISHED with the same class.

Poly