Rip ?'s

[Cammin1]

What percentage finish? Also what exactly is "drown testing/proffing"

[dmgedgoods]

dont know stats, but i know about drownproofing.
Tie your hands and feet up and toss you in the deepend. you have to learn to control your breathing, etc. i do it to my lil brothers a lot

[Paintman]

I was at my recruiter's on Friday. The man there said that many RIPpies are lost on the water tests... they freak out when they hit water with boots and gear.



Chris

[Ted]

I don't recall a lot of people failing the water survival test or whatever it's called now. It's not that hard, one only has to swim 25 meters in bdu's, boot, LCE, and weapons; go off the 3 meter high dive, and then jump in the deep end and ditch the LCE and weapon. The hard part is having the RIP instructors smoking the living dogcrap out of you while you are waiting for each event (and for hours afterward).

No, you're not tied up.

Drownproofing is different, it is simply teaches you to tread water while taking off your boots and bdu trousers, and then filling those trousers with air to use as a flotation device.

As for my class, we had 69 people finish out of 168, then we got sent to our Ranger Battalions and life got a whole lot harder. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

[This message has been edited by Ted (edited 12-18-2000).]

[Dark Helmet]

13 out of 55 finished my class. Slim pickens.

[Ranger002]

Oh yeah Flcrew,

Dmdgds forgot to mention the bricks they stick in your cammie pockets he he he he
William Pinocheeeeeeio Hazen

[dmgedgoods]

BUD/S drownproofing...the only REAL drownproofing there is...
They tie your hands and feet up and toss you in. You have to learn to control breathing. Ask anybody who knows about BUD/s

[FutureMustang]

"BUD/S drownproofing...the only REAL drownproofing there is..."

Yeah, I saw it on Discovery too. If it was used everywhere, do you think you'd be referring to it as "BUD/S Drownproofing?"

I'm assuming the drownproofing done at RIP is the same one done in the rest of the Army. Ted outlined it well:

1)50 meter swim in BDUs (not sure about boots or not)
2)15 meter sidestroke (the width of the pool) with your weapon out of the water
3)jump in the side of the pool, ditch the weapon and LCE, come back up to the top
4)walk off of a high dive (3m) with a weapon and a makeshift blindfold. hold onto the weapon, swim to the side
5)perform a clothing flotation with your pants for a couple minutes

Cammin, if you can swim, I wouldn't worry about it, unless the Regiment does it differently.

Jim

[dmgedgoods]

"drownproofing" just brought to mind what i know about BUD/s. i would assume drownproofing would be similar amongst the armed forces. I guess im wrong.
If the RIP drownproofing is what you have stated in that list, it doesnt seem all to difficult. After all, wehad to float with blown up pants in a freezing pool for a half hour in Gym class

[WS-G]

Originally posted by dmgedgoods:
"drownproofing" just brought to mind what i know about BUD/s. i would assume drownproofing would be similar amongst the armed forces.

Actually, you're partially right: the hands/feet tied variety of drownproofing (aka: "bobbing", followed by "travelling") is a water-confidence exercise that you will encounter in Pre-SCUBA and the Combat Diver Qualification Course.

This is a completely different drill compared to true drownproofing, and unless CDQC or BUD/S is in your plans for the future, it's not something you need to worry about preparing for.

[dmgedgoods]

So you would only encounter that form of drownproofing in SFQS?

[FutureMustang]

"i would assume drownproofing would be similar amongst the armed forces"

You don't even have to be able to swim in the Army or the Air force, so no.

[RangerCharlie]

You would be surprised that this scares a lot of guys into quiting. If you can swim, it's no problem, mainly a mental thing.

[realpolypro]

Damaged Goods...need I say more.

Poly

[Cammin1]

Thanks alot for the replies. I've heard everything from "combat swimmers hold you under water" to "They hog tie you, blindfold blaa blaa bla". I learned to swim young and spent alot of time in Lake Michigan during the day and at night time. In Boyscouts I did the mile swim no prob and also the pants filled with air thing. I just wanted to know from people who have been there. Now I jsut have to prove it to them.

[FutureMustang]

I'd recommend you stop swimming in Lake Michigan at night.

[realpolypro]

LOL http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

[Cammin1]

Don't worry I did. A good freind and I used to borrow Sunfishes from the sailing beach in our town. We always managed to bring them back. But once in early may (I think) we capsized way out and the water was Butt cold, I did think I was gonna make it back in.
We made such a game of it. The cops in the town loved to sit in the parking lot, plus their is a Coast Guard Aux unit, plus a few rent a cops at night. This was in junior high and we had a blast sneaking past every one. Our own little "mission"

[This message has been edited by Cammin1 (edited 12-19-2000).]