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LRSC Grunt

20 November 2000, 06:26

Justagrunt,
What you just described is accually very common. My LRS unit has quite a few spec-4s who took administrative knock downs just to get in the unit. We even have an NCO who used to be a company commander at one time http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/eek.gif

The reason behind their policy is because they are trying to avoid from being "top heavy". A LRS detachment is about a platoon plus in size. They also reserve the right to turn recruits down because of that.

Once you start training(if you decide to change your mind) with them you probably see that LRS is NOTHING like the regular infantry. Especially when you are on your isolation portion of the mission. I felt like I was cherry all over again when I made the transition. Another good reason behind their policy.

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justagrunt

20 November 2000, 08:42

NEVER MIND...
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RAT

20 November 2000, 14:11

"I worked my as off to make 6 in 8 fucking years from E-1"

COME TO THE DARK SIDE....

8 yrs in the CORPS you would be lucky to pick up E-5..Let alone E-6 when I was in...

To quote you " Besides what I look like with specialis rank and a damn Drill Sergeant badge???"

Who the FUCK cares:

You do it for the Job not the RANK or BADGES.. If you'er worried about RANK and BADGES...You'er in the wrong AO.

JUST AS LSRC said:"We even have an NCO who used to be a company commander at one time"

What do you want to be?

RAT OUT!!!

justagrunt

20 November 2000, 15:19

OK Rat if you wana take a pop shot at me thats fine...

The remark I made about being a Spec. with a DS badge was made as a light harted joke... So lighten the FUCK UP!

And as for not makeing my rank in that amount of time in the Corp. Well that might be why I ain't in the Corp...(No offence to any of my Marine Infantry Brothers)

As for doing things for "the Job, not the Badge" Well If it aint obviouse that I'm not "Badge Hunting" I don't know what is. If I wanted all the Badges I could get I would went to that unit and got them... It was never about no Fucking Patches...

And as for "Who Cares"... Well I do. And you obviousely don't, SO DON'T FUCKING POST ABOUT IT IF YOU DON'T CARE!

All I want to be is the Best Fucking Light Infantry Soldier I Can Be without screwing myself in the process. IF you can't figure that out than I don't know what else to tell you but to keep your pie eating fingers of that computer unless you've got something helpful to share... Be apart of the solution, not a part of the problem. Your opinion is like an asswhole... Not because everyone has one, but because it stinks like shit!

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Ranger002

20 November 2000, 16:56

With apologies to the Book and Movie "Treasure of the Sierra Madre" Chevrons?!? "We don't need no stink en' Chevrons". You'll make the rank back in no time if you're good at your job so why worry?
Oh well looks like you have some dancing to do. Good Luck and God Bless.
William Hazen
One more thing Don't ask a question you may not like the answer to... especially here LOL Ler5 E19 is the REAL DEAL so drop down and give me 50!!!

Ranger002

20 November 2000, 16:56

Sharky

20 November 2000, 17:31

If it was me I'd say screw the rank. Which is exactly what I did several years ago. Working with a high-speed unit will more than make up for it. Sometimes unit affiliation carries more weight than rank does. Rank is temporary. Pride is forever. My .02............

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justagrunt

21 November 2000, 12:57

Thanks Guy's That was very helpful!
RangerHazen, Damn Dude. I droped and gave you your 50 only to see I had to give you another 50 only to see that I had to give you another 50... Thanks for making it rain in here...HOOAH!

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RAT

21 November 2000, 14:16

JUSTAGRUNT:

To start that was not a POP shot.. If it was, it would have taken off your head.

To quote you
"And as for "Who Cares"... Well I do. And you obviously don't, SO DON'T FUCKING
POST ABOUT IT IF YOU DON'T CARE!"

WellI do care and if you would of cared in the 1st place you would have DONE IT RIGHT THE 1st time. As I did, and many more on this board. That is why I choose the MARINES!!!!(AND YOU ARE NOT A FELLOW MARINE BROTHER... Infantry YES MARINE NO!!!POP SHOT)

As far as being STINKY.. You are the one with SHIT NO YOUR FACE. NOT ME.
Every time I got invited to join a unit, I took the INDOC or selection right then. I never went home and had to SLEEP ON it.... STUDS go for it.. You have to sell out... Let it be rank, family, school... If you want to be the BEST. No one every got GREAT by backing down and sleeping on it to make the best decision for themselves.

I'll put it this way. I don't know if you are a sports fan or not. Maurice Green is a great story. Fastest man in the world. GOLD MEDAL winner which I know you are far from
being (That too was a pop shot)He worked in a fast food restaurant flipping burgers. Here
is the fastest man in the world running on a dirt track so he can make it to the Olympics.
I'm sure he went home and thought to himself... I know I'm fast, but I'm making a lot of rank on the server line. Maybe I should give up on being the best so I can be in good shape for the future.

To me you look like a fucking WIENER. NUT UP and go for it. I understand where you
are coming from. In the Corps we have a lot of Senior Marines who would not come to
Recon because a E-3 would know more than they.. But a lot of the e-3's were prior service. I feel we missed a lot of great NCO
leadership because they would not go for it...Because they felt comfortable where they
were in their career. Don't let ego over ride your path to greatness. If you are going to be the best DO IT...

AS WILD BILL SAID: IF YOU ARE THAT GOOD THE RANK WILL COME BACK.

Good luck.

By the way, It is OREO'S I LOVE eating OREO'S at the computer. With MILK... NOT
PIES...

RAT OUT!!!

justagrunt

21 November 2000, 15:38

You couldn't blow the head off a Beer!!!
Infantryman are Infantryman and I respect the Marine Corp. Infantry, If you don't respect us then your fucked up and brain washed! I scored to fucking high on the ASVAB to be in the Marines(POP SHOT, Back at you!!! Let it go Marine. Like I said the first time about your opinion...Figures you want to pick a fight with a fellow serviceman and then cop out and say "It wasn't a pop shot" Go hit a fucking beach or something, your wasteing my time!

O' and by the way. I looked at all the branches when I CHOSE the Army... I didn't pick one over the other becuase they have cool fucking comercials and a pretty uniform... I picked the one that had the job I wanted. I joined as a Combat Medic and later reclassed Infantry. Last time I check a The marines don't offer that job. (Combat Medic)

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RAT

21 November 2000, 16:33

To Quote SHARKY:
"If it was me I'd say screw the rank. Which is exactly what I did several years ago. Working with a high-speed unit will more than make up for it."

The Corps has Corpsmen...Which I konw you know. They can go with Field Med 18D with the Marines or SEALS....

Again, Why did you not go for LSRC or RTB the 1st time.

I'm not trying to pick a fight HARD CHARGER.
Just asking questons.

My opinions are my opinions. I gave you my thoughts.. If you don't want to hear the truth get off the board.

E19, LSRC, RANGER HAZEN, SHARKY, and myself have all given our opinions. You just listen the ones you like. To me that sounds like the easy way out. If a unit like the one you mentioned invited me...I damm well would have been there... No need for options or opinions. I would have just done it. But I'm not you and you sure are not ME.

Again, Good luck to you.

RAT OUT!!!

justagrunt

21 November 2000, 16:49

Hay Rat I shot at you cause you shot at me first... I guess one thing I learned as an NCO was Tact, but not much! As for Corpman, the Marine recruiter said that they used navy corpman... MArines couldn't get that MOS... Who knows? Whatever... How the hell are we getting any work done fighting with one another? I'm not, are you????

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realpolypro

21 November 2000, 17:16

"Tact?, we don't need no stinking tact!" Purdy did't have much http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

Poly

RAT

21 November 2000, 19:28

JUSTAGRUNT,

My tact SUCKS too...

Go for it don't worry about rank. Unless it is your main income and you have mouths to feed. If it is just you... GO FOR IT... The service needs people who are deicated. Like I said I saw too many lifers pass up an opportunity of a life time... I got very lucky...I got to do it the 1st time in the Corps. I do miss the service because of MEN like you. I had mouths to feed... I could not do it on the pay..Now I have a little in the bank... I wish I could go back in time with the money I have now... I would have retired.

This all depends on what you want to do. No one else can do it for you. I sure as hell am not going to run an indoc anytime soon.

If it was me, I would do it. Screw everything else. I wanted to be the best nothig else mattered.

RAT (NOW THE BEST OREO'S EATER) OUT!!!

WS-G

21 November 2000, 22:17

(Currently an Infantry instructor at Indiana Military Academy, Camp Atterbury for reclass of prior service that have now decided to become a "Real Soldier" as I put it...)

Well, Damn!, justagrunt, don't sugarcoat things.... I'm sure there are legions of PMOS 31C types and the odd 91B who've paid their dues in the LRSUs who'd consider it a real revelation to have your valuable self there to clue them in on the fact that they're not "real soldiers". Try telling all those non-11s SFOD-D has for shooters, or all those 18's-other-than-18B that they're not "real soldiers".

While I presume you were making a joke with that remark, in the event you were to seriously put forth the expressed idea in the presence of any of the aforementioned, my advice would be as follows: "Grab your ass and hang on!".

FACT: When I started out in the 1980's, we fielded 5-man LRRP Teams. Of those five, two were PMOS 05B (FYI: this was 05C minus radioteletype tasks. 05B/C were consolidated into MOS 31C during FY 1984). To put it another way, 40% of a LRRP Team were non-11's. Further, 05B's not only served on LRRP Teams, but often led LRRP Teams. In the LRSUs of today (Clinton-era, no-longer-SOF — this pretty much explains it all), this situation has changed, however I suspect this is due fully to the influence of Clinton's Dickless Pencilnecks — with their "let's-all-be-pogues" mentality — getting their butt-plugs skewed the wrong way over the thought of expensively school-trained technicians actually soldiering out there on the "sharp end".

Besides what I look like with specialis rank and a damn Drill Sergeant badge???

Like someone who was motivated enough to be in a highly select unit to be willing to take a reduction in grade to be there.

Not everyone has to take a reduction; I didn't. In my case, I previously left the military as an E-5 with 10½ years service (4 TXARNG, the rest AF. Most of it as an NCO, all of it spanning the entirety of the Reagan-Bush Era), followed by a 9½-year break in service, and still came back as an E-5. For what it's worth, I had spent my first four years of service in the very same unit. Had I been an E-6, I very likely would have had to take off a stripe, and would not have minded doing so. Short version: (Q) Would I have been willing to take a reduction to come back? (A) YES.

SGT W.M. Salter — 31C2PA4
Co. G (Abn), 143d Infantry (LRS), TXARNG
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Sharky

22 November 2000, 01:46

Purdy couldn't even SPELL tact. My god, he wanted to shoot us in the leg before our last 12-miler in RIP. Some of you may want to hoist the bullshit flag on that one but it is true, can be verified, and was supposedly one of the reasons he was never assigned anything over battalion level. Poly, were you on the jump with us when purd broke his ankle in 91? There's a story. Too long for this board though. The man was a nut but we would've went to hell with him and he would've been the first one through the door.

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realpolypro

22 November 2000, 05:45

Negative on the jump, but yeah...hell and back! Send me an email bozo!

"Spec4 Purdy was shot off the rope..."
Shelby Stanton, Rangers at War

justagrunt

22 November 2000, 09:55

Salter, Cool your jet's Turbo!!! Let me those questions of my post up a little for you.

First off, I don't think that Infantry types are the only "Real Soldiers" The MOS that you listed 31C and 91B I hold in high regard... I joined the Army as a Combat Medic when I first came in. (No one is tuffer than DOC!) and My father-in-law was 31C with 35th SIG. Airborne 82-85 Ft. Bragg / (Grenada)Definetly a HooAH Airborne type. My brother is joining an LRS unit soon as a 31C. He is a non-prior. He will be signing up in DEC.

I referd to all those "Soldiers" as becomeing "Real Soldiers" do to the prodoment amount of fucking REMF's we get... I/E Addmin, Cook, and a whole bunch of other crap.

As far as my reduction if I transfer to that unit, it is for two reasons that neither one are reasons that I could disagree with: 1) The highest ranking slot they have open is
E-4. and 2) I'm not jump qualed or LRSL qualed and they can't put me in a leaders slot when I am not Qualified to lead. I am a damn good Non-Com. I/E Drill Sgt., Infantry Squadleader, Platoon Sgt., Instructor... But that is a whole new ball game (That Mission) So I completely agree with their reasoning, I just had a hard time, myself with doing it.
I'm going to finish this assignment (11BH). I have 2 more years with it and then I will probably go crawling back to them... I'll be E-7 then, but who cares. I hope that clears shit up for you a little.

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Dark Helmet

23 November 2000, 00:58

Originally posted by justagrunt:
Salter, Cool your jet's Turbo!!!

Turbo. There's new one. Always learning....

WS-G

23 November 2000, 02:47

"Turbo"....

Yeah, that does sound pretty cool, eh?

Hotmike

24 November 2000, 09:52

28 Years old; E-6 in eight; Infantry INSTRUCTOR at Indiana Military Academy with a list of accomplishments that would impress only the most mediocre of troops... Dogging the Marine by saying "I scored to high on the ASVAB to join the Corps"... And his grammatical skills are on par with a third grader? Come on troop! Honer? Volintary? oppurtunity? carier? Proofesional? specilis? light harted? offence? obviouse? asswhole? wasteing? comercials? definetly? tuffer? becomeing? addmin? and I'm really not sure about "prodoment"... And its "Pot Shot" not "pop shot" you illiterate bastard! And you have the gaul to disrespect others? I got two words for you troop... Websters and Rogets... Check 'em out, get your GED, then sew on E-7, and do something with your life other than disrespecting prior service guys.
I mean no offence, I'm just makeing a proofesional, addministrative korecshun (mine)to your light harted comments. asswhole!
To the regulars... My apolgies... I had to go there!

Hotmike

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WS-G

24 November 2000, 13:43

Honer.... It rhymes with boner.

RUDEDAWG

24 November 2000, 19:26

Age: 26
Gender: male
MOS: 13F, 95B
Years of
Service: 8
Rank: E-6

justagrunt, not hard to do. Don't overestimate the value of that rank. Let's be frank...in most cases if you do your job and maintain a decent reputation the promotions will come. I'm not saying that there isn't hard work involved but there are much harder things to accomplish than an E-6 rank in 8yrs. If being a Ranger is what you want than go for it. Don't be afraid to humble yourself and start over. Your 28, I'm 26 and we both have nice long careers ahead of us. Currently I am working on going back to active duty. I've finished college and have spent 4 years eliminating about 3/4 of my debt. The wife is all for it and I'm jumping out of my skin from excitement. I have very little desire to become an officer so guess what? Automatic reduction in rank - 2 grades in fact. It doesn't matter a hill of beans to me as long as I can attach "U.S. Army ret." behind my name in another 15years.

justagrunt

4 December 2000, 13:34

Rudedawg.
Good point and thank's!

HotDike.
I tried to write that post real fast and that has a direct relation to my spelling F-up's... Sorry It got you so worked up! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/rolleyes.gif But as far as your opinion of me... Like I give a rats ass. My situation isn't that I'm afraid I couldn't "Make it" becuase I have all the confidence in the world that I can and will... My problem is that I have a hard enough time fitting my "One weekend a month" (Yall right, one weekend) in my schedule. I have a lot of shit on my plate and I don't want to got to that unit unless I am 100% sure that I will be able to do the job. (Not in my abilities but in my availability)

PS: If it makes you feel better feel free to grade this paper to, Professor... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/tongue.gif

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TANGOisinKOREA

4 December 2000, 14:01

justagrunt

Worst NCOs we ever had in the unit were just off the trail. Do you wear jump boots with those winter weight BDUs your sporting?

Chas

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Hotmike

4 December 2000, 14:46

Justagrunt, Little clue for you! Get thicker skin! Breaking out the "I know you are, but what am I" Defense is pretty questionable in this forum, as it is obviously filled with well read, literate, educated, professionals... The only ability that I questioned was your spelling... (Some of my best Studs have been academic bricks, but at least they had confidence in themselves, which you seem to lack)... But as long as we're taking "Pop Shots" at each other...
Immaturity... Of this you have plenty... I hope you act more professional while shaping future leaders, but somehow I doubt it.

Respect... Of this you have none... You ask a question in a forum of Professionals... Don't like the responses you get, so you roll in with Chaff and Flare... Not impressive!

Talent... I'm not sure where you stand on this issue. You tell us "How Great You Are, yet show a lack of "basic" academic ability. You can't make it thru Ranger (Or any school for that matter) if you can't do the math on the declination diagram... (Hope I didn't lose you there)

Let me set something straight for you... I have all the respect in the world for young, hard charging NCOs, who want to better themselves... But I always advise them to start with academics, and build upon that... If you brief the "6" in a "Hillbilly" fashion (My apologies to any mountain folk out there) you won't be taken seriously... The same can be said for posting to this forum... If you write like a third grader... well you know where I'm going with this. Anyhow, good luck in whatever you decide to do...

BTW... (really fast would have been more grammatically correct. Quickly would have been even better... Because not becuase...Yall right?... I'm not sure on that one... Don't want to got to...

I'd give you a C+ on this post... which shows improvement over the previous 10...

Professor Hotmike

(Regulars... Once again.. My apologies)

justagrunt

4 December 2000, 17:13

I'll address everyone of your points...

1)My skin is thick enough... But when someone calls you a "Bastard"... Let's Go!

2) As far as you "only questioning my spelling" Quote: "Accomplishments that would only impress the most mediocre of troops." Be a little consistent, would you?

3)You obviously are a terrible read of people... You say I have little confidence, Yet I have the balls to come on a forum like this which I will openly concede that I am at the bottom of the totem pole when it comes to "Hooah" experience to go to the source for advice... My advise to you is try a little humility. You would think considering the situation that I would be an easy target but I don't take shit from anyone...regardless of qualifications, your still a man, just a man...

4)IMMATURITY... Your the one that took a sucker punch on a guy by calling him a "Bastard" when he was mature enough to ask a group that is the subject matter experts for advice... Go figure!

5) RESPECT... I can't even beleive you have the nerve to stand and speek of respect!!! This is like Al Gore saying every vote should count after negating the military over-seas vote's... You called me a Bastard, an Asshole and you question my inegrity. Your right! I don't have any fucking respect for you, for obvious reasons... Your a Prick that has no respect for anyone else. You'll probably say: "I respect all the other professionals on this board, but you don't... You respect what they have done only because you have done it yourself, if you hadn't.. You wouldn't give a rat's ass about them. That's disrespect in my book. Respect is earned, not given...Bla, Bla, Bla, Bla...

6) TALENT... Everyone has diferent talents, (Mine is obviously not spelling, for which I will admit.) I never claimed to be "great" I listed my credentials so to give anyone that wanted to give me advise on the matter the "whole picture" I don't compare what I have done to anyone... I'm proud that I can still make time in my very busy life to serve my country. And honestly... FUCK talent! everyone is born with some talent to do something, but it is the man that developes the skill to do the things that he isn't born to do is the measure of a man's worth. I was born with Dysgraphia, wich is a form of dislexia... I have trouble spelling... so be it. I also have an IQ of 147 which got my "illiterate" (as you put it) ass through college and put me in a possition to make six figures a year, which I never fail to do...(If I was to ever brag, there it was. I guess you bring out the worst in me.)

7) ACADEMICS... Read #6 again.

I think I have wasted enough of everyones time on this crap... I hope it was at least amusing!

O' by the way HotDike... Kiss my ass! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/redface.gif

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justagrunt

4 December 2000, 17:13

SORRY... DOUBLE TAP...

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Dark Helmet

4 December 2000, 23:06

I can feel the love.....

FutureMustang

5 December 2000, 05:01

justagrunt:
"You say I have little confidence, Yet I have the balls to come on a forum like this"

Eww, stickin' that neck out on the line on the internet. That's a set of nads if I ever saw a pair.

Jim

justagrunt

5 December 2000, 08:04

Just as you just did... Right? http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/rolleyes.gif

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FutureMustang

5 December 2000, 08:12

Was that a reference to my rectum, or did you mean to type "as?"

Jim

FutureMustang

5 December 2000, 08:28

Balls and the internet are two concepts that don't often collide. You think this shows guts and defines you as a person to come on here and ask a question?

Stand up at a NARAL meeting and start reading from a Bible, go to a gay convention, stand up on the podium, and start talking about how much you're in favor of stricter sodomy laws. Take a reduction in grade from e-6 to e-4 to join an LRSU. Those things take balls (maybe not the last one, since you say you make 6 figures). Posting on here does not.

justagrunt

5 December 2000, 10:45

Whatever... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/rolleyes.gif You have obviously missed my point. My point was: In reference to "having balls" is that I understand and admit to my "inperfections" You are right that it doesn't take balls to pop off at the mouth on the net... as so many people have proven here...Thats what started this flame war in the first place.

I ASKED A SIMPLE QUESTION... I've gotten some real profetional answers and I've gotten some egotistical jackass answers from other guys who just want to enact their self-believed possition of superiority on someone that has let their guard down to compensate for the fact that they real life may not be what they hoped it would be... I'm very happy with my life's accomplishments thus far... This whole conversation was started about me simply asking advise about my future, with regards to possible endeavors, so to continue on with bettering myself.

"If your not moving forward...Your moving back, because the next guy is passing you up. There is no middle ground in the journey of life."

"A smart man learns from his mistakes... A genius learns from someone elses..."

"You may be on the right track... But if you just sit there you'll get your ass run over"

Food for thought...

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LRSURanger

6 December 2000, 04:48

Grunt,

not to bust your balls, but you are asking questions when there should be no questions.Just grab your sack (assuming you have one), and take the jump.You are not active duty, so it's not a major career move either way. Screw the rank and dig deep.

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LRSURanger

6 December 2000, 04:49

justagrunt

6 December 2000, 09:25

Thanks LRSURanger
I will! I just wanted to make sure if I go to this unit that I can give them as much of my time that they will deserve... I'm going to contact them after X-mas and ask if the offer still stands.

O' and I checked... I got one! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

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TANGOisinKOREA

6 December 2000, 11:16

Grunt

Good luck if they still let you in I am sure you wont be sorry. Let us know what happens.

Chas

justagrunt

6 December 2000, 11:56

I'm sure they will if for only one reason that they have a hard time finding HooAH guys to make the "Jump" and I may not be Tabbed or Jump Q. but I am a HooAH Grunt that IS Willing & Able... I'll let you know...Wish me luck!!!

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justagrunt

6 December 2000, 12:04

Double Tap!!
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justagrunt

6 December 2000, 12:06

O' by the way...

To every "Pro" out there that gave me their advice in a professional, tactful, Manner... THANK YOU VERY MUCH! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

To every individual that took a cheap-shot at me when I let down my guard... Well lets just say Karma is wonderful thing and leave it at that.

Now if you will all excuse me, I have some "Groveling" to do...

HooAH! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/cool.gif

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justagrunt

8 January 2001, 10:01

Update:

I had my tryout & interview with the LRS-D and I was (re)accepted. I just have to do all the paperwork (Transfer) crap and I'll be there.

HooAh! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

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RogueExec

8 January 2001, 10:38

Originally posted by justagrunt:
Update:

I had my tryout & interview with the LRS-D and I was (re)accepted. I just have to do all the paperwork (Transfer) crap and I'll be there.

HooAh! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

Congrats, bro! I know that you made a few sacrifices to get there. Glad you're on your way.

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RAT

8 January 2001, 15:16

GLAD to see you made the right decision. It will be wel worth your time.

RAT OUT!!

RAT

8 January 2001, 15:16

GLAD to see you made the right decision. It will be wel worth your time.

RAT OUT!!

AG Turd

10 January 2001, 01:30

[QUOTE]Originally posted by justagrunt:
...someone that has let their guard down to compensate for the fact that they real life may not be what they hoped it would be... I'm very happy with my life's accomplishments thus far...

justadud, surely, thee must be aware of rumors of overcompensating men ... what exactly is it that you are overcompensating for?

On that note, I would like to welcome myself to this forum. Thank you, gentlemen, you may be seated.

FEMALE ON DECK!!!

Now, justadud, let me have my way with you :-)
Your dysgraphia, dislexia, diarrhea, and apparent dysplasia of brain matter poses several questions. Asking, however, won't make much sense since I do not believe that your answers to my questions would travel on the same frequency.
So, I shall leave you with an opinion: Once you find that foot which you so conveniently logged deeply in your esophagus, you might want to use the scroll button and assess the damage from afar.
I, for one, am one of those pogue MOS's. In real life (since all I am doing is "pop shooting" and hiding behind my screen, scared your testosterone might push me off my chair) your silly attempts of requesting actions via 4187 would hit deaf ears (and lame fingers on the keyboard), for I do not grace any email traffic (or 4187's) with an answer or follow up action if received with such lack of care on basic English.
English is my 3d language, justadud, what is your first?
Now lastly, if you write like a moron, you probably speak like a moron, what does that make you in the long run?
Just wondering.

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AG Turd

10 January 2001, 01:32

not like double mint gum, it's not always the double the fun if a double tap
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realpolypro

10 January 2001, 01:46

I hope you look as good as you write http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

Poly

RogueExec

10 January 2001, 10:33

Glad I have boots on.

grrlcop74

10 January 2001, 11:27

No shit Rogue..pass poly those gold chains and satin shirts you were telling me about. I think he's trying to attain Hazen's "Disco Ranger" status. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

Kristen

Scotty

10 January 2001, 11:49

I think I'm in love!! No grammatical errors, a sense of humor, knows anatomy, physiology... if she likes '80s music, techno, and country I'm proposing!

Hubbahubbahubba....

Scotty

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"Shall I compare thee to a Grecian urn?" - John Keats

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justagrunt

10 January 2001, 11:52

Originally posted by AG Turd:
BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA...I NEED SOME DICK...BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA... I'M A FAT POUGE... BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA... I'M A REMF WITH NO LIFE....BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA...AGAIN, I REALY NEED SOME DICK!!! BLA, BLA, BLA, BLA....

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Scotty

10 January 2001, 11:52

I liked it so much I sent it twice...

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justagrunt

10 January 2001, 13:12

O' by the way AG Twat. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/redface.gif

You mention success in your signature. Would you care to share with us why it is that you would be a success. Or are you just full of articulate, gramitically correct shit... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/rolleyes.gif

I was asking the BTDT's on this page for professional advice in regards to something that you do not and will not ever know about...COMBAT ARMS!!! But the Hell out, Pouge! Go back to your REMF job and stay out things that you know little about. Meaning take your ass off this Board and go play on military,com's or something like that. Maybe Oprah's web sight could use your help or something...

http://www.oprah.com/tows/images/tows_photoid_top.gif Look! It's AG Twat get'n her grove on... YOU GO GIRLFIEND!!!!

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RogueExec

10 January 2001, 13:32

Originally posted by grrlcop74:
No shit Rogue..pass poly those gold chains and satin shirts you were telling me about. I think he's trying to attain Hazen's "Disco Ranger" status. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

Kristen

I forgot to tell you that the collars on those shirts help with the "boy-in-da-hood strut" and the drag factor. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/tongue.gif <packing 'em up for poly>

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josepy

10 January 2001, 14:34

I cannot believe I missed this post, thanks Rat the Blue Falcon.

I have just one small issue.

JAG

Is being an infantry instructor at an infantry school(Army or Marine Corps) the same as a military academy? Is it high schoolers?

Seriously?

AG Turd

10 January 2001, 15:54

Originally posted by justagrunt:

yes, justadud, that is exactly what I need... some phallus...
I know so little about the military, it made me wanna join "justagrunts hall of whine".
and yes, i do speak of success...feel free to email me and we could discuss my career path. I do not need to justify what I consider success.
"Success always occurs in private, and failure in full view."
You have proven your inaptness...right here, in full view. Congrats, you made a name for yourself.

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justagrunt

10 January 2001, 15:57

Joe,

It is called a military academy because it was, at first only OCS. It has all of the NCO schools, Instructor cources, and Infantry reclass for prior service soldiers (Army, Marines, Navy, Air Force) that are comeing into the Guard and Reserve and option to change there MOS to Infantry (11B). As a matter of fact... One of my fellow instructors is a former Marine. He realy knows his Infantry tactics. He was a sniper in the Corps. and also did time as a D.I.

I hope that answers your question.

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justagrunt

10 January 2001, 16:20

AG Turd,

You try to so eloquently divert the attention that you have drawn upon yourself by takeing your little shot at me by posting something so full of ridiculous B.S. So I find it a little ironic that you speak of me being "inapt" and that I have "Made a name for myself" When that was the whole point of your juvenile, insecure layden, Freudian-esc, all a "Penis-envy" post in the first place. So Congrats to you as well... Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and some of ours stink worse than others... I think you better go wipe!

You remind me of a US president that we are finaly getting ready to get rid of...

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josepy

10 January 2001, 16:27

JAG -

Does it give an MOS or qual? Who is the sniper?

RogueExec

10 January 2001, 16:38

Originally posted by AG Turd:
inaptness

Expound, please. I'm not familiar with this term.

Miss Turd?

justagrunt

10 January 2001, 16:43

Originally posted by josepy:
JAG -

Does it give an MOS or qual? Who is the sniper?

Yes it gives the Infantry MOS (11B)

SSG. Hemstead (I think I spelled that right) I am blanking on his first name... Don't use it much. He has been out of the Corps since pre-Gulf war I believe...

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AG Turd

10 January 2001, 16:53

Originally posted by justagrunt:
AG Turd,

.. When that was the whole point of your juvenile, insecure layden, Freudian-esc, all a "Penis-envy" post in the first place. So ... Opinions are like assholes everyone has one and some of ours stink worse than others... I think you better go wipe!

We are not won by arguments that we can analyze, but by tone and temper; by the manner, which is the man (or justadud)himself.

~ Samuel Butler ~

Yes, justadud, penis envy must be it... For I must be the weak female which you would like me to be. And in my weakest moments, when i can absolutely no longer stand the pain of not being endowed in the southern region, i grab a strap-on, throw my education and literacy out of the window, and become the embodiment of a true man...Justagrunt..
You are my hero.

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justagrunt

10 January 2001, 17:38

Originally posted by AG Turd:
Yes, justastud, penis envy must be it... For I must be the weak female which you would like me to be. And in my weakest moments, when i can absolutely no longer stand the pain of not being endowed in the southern region, i grab a strap-on, throw my education and literacy out of the window, and become the embodiment of a true man...Justagrunt..
You are my hero.

Ahhh, The truth comes out... O' and by the way don't try to pull that "Your a male chauvinist crap" either. I have a lot of respect for women. I just don't respect Pouge's like you whom take unwarranted shots at people to make up for their own inadequacies some how... Man or woman.

"Motivation without knowledge is like running in the dark"

~Will Rogers~

Anyone can quote...

Now put your little thesaurus down and go away, Pouge...

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"A part time meat eater is still a meat eater! a Pouge that is full time or part time is still a Pouge"

AG Turd

10 January 2001, 18:27

Originally posted by justagrunt:

Ahhh, The truth comes out... O' and by the way don't try to pull that "Your a male chauvinist crap" either. I have a lot of respect for women. Anyone can quote...

what is it bud?
what's up with these self-inflicted gun shot wounds? did i even mention "chauvinist"?
i don't operate in that part of the EO arena. i believe most folks are equally worthless.

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AG Turd

10 January 2001, 18:30

double tapping, unless double mint gum, isn't double the fun. ;-)

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grrlcop74

10 January 2001, 19:34

And to think this thread had wrapped itself up rather nicely until somebody clapped twice for "flame on".

<clapping two more times>

Flame off!! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

<singing Kumbayah>

Kristen

dmgedgoods

11 January 2001, 01:01

hey...lets chill out on the big vocabulary. this shit is too much!!

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Hard pressed on my right. My center is yielding. Impossible to maneuver. Situation excellent. I am attacking.
--Ferdinand Foch-- at the Battle of the Marne

justagrunt

11 January 2001, 10:47

Originally posted by grrlcop74:
And to think this thread had wrapped itself up rather nicely until somebody clapped twice for "flame on".

<clapping two more times>

Flame off!! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

<singing Kumbayah>

Kristen

Smart words from a smart COP...

One Final Quote:

No statue has ever been erected in honor of the Critique.

~Ben Franklin~

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RogueExec

11 January 2001, 11:42

Originally posted by grrlcop74:

<singing Kumbayah>

Kristen

I thought you only sang in the shower? http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/talker.gif

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josepy

11 January 2001, 14:06

JAG -

I am over our thing but you seem to fight with everyone here.

Sup man it could not be all of us wrong and you are right.

Did Daddy not play catch with you?

Ted

11 January 2001, 14:36

AGTurd,
Lady, for the love of mike, drop the proper and grammatical English writing. It's making my head hurt just reading it.

We get the point, i.e. you're educated, smart, willing to defend yourself, and can put together a good argument.

justagrunt

11 January 2001, 15:54

Originally posted by josepy:
JAG -

I am over our thing but you seem to fight with everyone here.

Sup man it could not be all of us wrong and you are right.

Did Daddy not play catch with you?

Joe,

I wasn't doing shit and this chick just reached back and took a shot at me out of nowhere!?!?!?!

You seem to get into a few spats yourself there chief... Must be a Warrior thing, Huh?

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RogueExec

11 January 2001, 16:01

Originally posted by Ted:
AGTurd,
Lady, for the love of mike, drop the proper and grammatical English writing. It's making my head hurt just reading it.

We get the point, i.e. you're educated, smart, willing to defend yourself, and can put together a good argument.

Thank you, Ted. Someone needed to engage the Halon system.

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josepy

11 January 2001, 17:27

JAG

Only with you but you seem to get into it with everyone so I don't feel bad.

I am a slimy civilian now and proud of it.

You spout at times where it does not seem to fit(Marine Boards). I have held back a lot since our thread got deleted. Your comments are strange to some.

You have to remember there are guys here who have done some highspeed combat time and don't take you at face value. Sometimes they don't want to hear it from someone with your experience level.

Just giving a heads-up. I have no issues.

justagrunt

11 January 2001, 17:53

Joe,

I think I recall you getting into it with others but if I'm wrong on that, so be it...no big deal.

Actually other than this AG Turd/Freak, that High School Drop out Fag, and you are the only one I have realy mixed it up with. (unless you count YTDevil but that was in the middle of our disagreement...) I , like you was planning to chill-out after that one board was closed, (It got out of hand on both our parts) and that is still my plan except I've got this AG Freak starting shit with me... O' well. I realy don't have any desire whatsoever to get into it with anyone on this board but, if someone takes a shot at me...

If someone dosn't take me at face value that is on them... I haven't claimed to be anything than what I truely am (on this board.) My opinions are just that, opinions. "Take'em or Leave'em"

I think we need to agree to let this subject go or it will probably just get nasty again...

Likewise, Just a heads-up, I have no issues with you either...

PS: Did you recognise that name I gave you the other day?

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grrlcop74

11 January 2001, 20:24

Originally posted by Ted:
AGTurd,
Lady, for the love of mike, drop the proper and grammatical English writing. It's making my head hurt just reading it.

We get the point, i.e. you're educated, smart, willing to defend yourself, and can put together a good argument.

Whew..I thought it was just me.

Rogue dammit man you weren't supposed to tell anybody about the shower thing. Between you and DForeman over in SWATNET ratting me out, I'm not going to have any secrets left.

Kristen
"Bow chicka bow bow"
(sorry Josepy http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif)

grrlcop74

11 January 2001, 20:25

uh...oops http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

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AG Turd

11 January 2001, 21:35

Originally posted by Ted:
AGTurd,
Lady, for the love of mike, drop the proper and grammatical English writing. It's making my head hurt just reading it.

We get the point, i.e. you're educated, smart, willing to defend yourself, and can put together a good argument.

Ted
i only engage in proper english when need arises....justawhatever was that occasion.
Nuff said on that topic, i hope. statement made, topic closed, hopefully. :-)
cause that kind of english makes white silk come out of my fingernails.

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RogueExec

12 January 2001, 10:53

Originally posted by grrlcop74:

Rogue dammit man you weren't supposed to tell anybody about the shower thing. Between you and DForeman over in SWATNET ratting me out, I'm not going to have any secrets left.

Sorry, Mistress.....returning to my tower for lockdown.

justagrunt

12 January 2001, 10:54

AG Turd,

You are so full of SH*T!

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Linus

12 January 2001, 12:07

AG;

Is it OK for JAG to be happy about going where he want's to go in life? Is it reaonable to assume that he has chosen to do just that because in his admittedly arbitrary oppinion it seems to be the more beneficial option in comparison to any other available in his current situation? Is it therefore logical for him to regard anyone doing anyhing else as either being not quite right or slightly inferior in relation to his own standards?

I think so.

Does this mean you need to be offended?

No, it doesn't. Because it is a personal oppinion, however shared by any number of people. Neither JAG nor anybody else has ever claimed it to be a scientific fact and I'm quite sure that you feel much the same way about your own decisions and values, or you would most definitely have chosen to act differently and reassess your views, wouldn't you?

So: Who are you to rain on his parade?

Justagrunt: The best of luck to you!

And you too, Turd.

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justagrunt

12 January 2001, 12:43

Originally posted by Linus:
Justagrunt: The best of luck to you!

You too, Brother! Thank's...

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BUG

12 January 2001, 16:39

I worked so hard to make E-6 in 8 years. I am a Damn good light Infantryman and I have been in a 11B3G slots but never the oppurtunity to go all the way.

Dude you have got to be joking
Making E-6 in 8 years is not exactly fast tracking

next you will want people to be proud of you because you graduated basic training on the first try

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BUG

12 January 2001, 16:40

it was so good, i had to post it twice

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BUG

12 January 2001, 16:43

...or three times

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grrlcop74

12 January 2001, 20:11

BUG...come here..listen very carefully..lean in closer...closer...DROP IT, DAMMIT!!! MOVE ON WITH YOUR LIFE!! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif

Thank you.

Kristen

Hotmike

12 January 2001, 20:34

Hey JustaGrunt, I feel offended that you didn't mention me in your rather long list of people you've "Gotten Cyber-Bitch Slapped By" Makes me feel all empty inside... But it does highlight the point I made about 900 posts back... Get thicker Skin... If you wanna run with the big dogs, You're gonna need it... I'm glad you took the "Jump" and really do wish you the best, but I hope you mature a little more before you come play in my sandbox... and AG Hottie... I WANNA BE THE FATHER OF YOUR CHILDREN! I just love women with multi-syllabic vocabularies... You showed some sack girl... I dig that in a chick...

Slugs and Kisses,

Hotmike

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Hotmike

12 January 2001, 20:37

BUG

12 January 2001, 22:05

sorry wrong post

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AG Turd

12 January 2001, 22:11

Originally posted by BUG:

Dude you have got to be joking
Making E-6 in 8 years is not exactly fast tracking

...hmmm, and I thought I was the only one trying to see any achievement in that post.

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AG Turd

12 January 2001, 22:17

Hotmike,

I am used to being on people's shit list; so, this is a first. It must be my assertive attitude :-) .

Thanks for the compliment.

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justagrunt

15 January 2001, 09:25

I'm Glad to see that everyone has so much to be happy about in their own lives that they need to dig into mine... I've accomplished more shit in my short lifetime than most of you people could dare to dream to do. I don't measure myself by ONE accomplishment in my life, like so many of you.

I have succeeded in many differet fields in my life. Military is just one of them. One thing that reinforces that this is true is the fact that I have so many people such as yourselves that I inspire to post all these derogatory comments in my direction... If everything you say is true, you wouldn't bother to open your cock-sheds in the first place...

Like I've said before... "It don't matter what you've done in life if you ain't doing shit now!"

To all you wonderful people that have took it upon yourselves to tell me "how it is"... Good luck in life. (You'll need it)

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" No statue has ever been erected in honor of a critique"
~Ben Franklin, American Patriot~

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justagrunt

15 January 2001, 11:32

The Previous statement, although not specific, is directed to certain personnel only. I will restate my thanks to the true profetionals that gave me their valuable advise. I will from this point try and refrain from being baited into anymore of their childish "Flame-wars" by their unprofessional stabs at my character.

"Life is to short."

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Hotmike

15 January 2001, 12:53

Once again... the "I know you are, but What Am I Defense"... Blah Blah Blah

Rogets and Websters

(It's hard to be taken as a "competent professional" when you spell like a 3rd grader... there are enough assholes out there calling the military illiterate without you jumping in with your sophmoric retorts "spelt ungud")

This will be my last post on the subject, provided you don't make a half assed attempt at "Coming Back"... I you do however insist on dragging this thread on... I will only reply to correct your spelling. (Pull out the dictionary, and I will leave you alone)

Hotmike, the English Lit Prof

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