Westward Ho!

[Nuke]

AFSOC heading west! :eek:
That's right, AFSOC is outgrowing the lovely confines of Hurlburt and needs to expand. They are giving up the beautiful emerald waters of the Gulf Coast and expanding to the wonderful high desert of Clovis NM!
Cannon AFB to be exact! Strong rumor on the street and in the daily mullet wrapper is that one MC-130 Talon II squadron, one AC-130U Gunship squadron and a CV-22 squadron along with it's support are on the block.
Cannon is lobbying hard to make this happen so BRAC doesn't close the doors to the base.
I expect that MPF retirements section will be busy.
More to follow!

[Rotor Strike please]

I heard that rumor too. Fuck Cannon. They don't put CC (Corrective Custody) on the tail flash for no reason.

[RangerCharlie]

That doesn't put it near SOF forces that they would need to train with.

[Rotor Strike please]

That doesn't put it near SOF forces that they would need to train with.

I really wouldn't try to apply logic and common sense to the Air Force, especially regarding base realignmnet or closure.

[Pavejimm]

AFSOC heading west! :eek:
That's right, AFSOC is outgrowing the lovely confines of Hurlburt and needs to expand. They are giving up the beautiful emerald waters of the Gulf Coast and expanding to the wonderful high desert of Clovis NM!
Cannon AFB to be exact! Strong rumor on the street and in the daily mullet wrapper is that one MC-130 Talon II squadron, one AC-130U Gunship squadron and a CV-22 squadron along with it's support are on the block.
Cannon is lobbying hard to make this happen so BRAC doesn't close the doors to the base.
I expect that MPF retirements section will be busy.
More to follow!

I also heard there will be two wings under the 16th SOW. Hurlburt will get have the 1st SOW. Word has it there will be some sort of UAV and CSAR presence as well.

It will probably come as a shock to the Gunship bubba's though...they will actually have to PCS somewhere.

Not a bad concept though...plenty of ranges, mountains and lots of open space. It can't be all that bad...there has been a fighter wing there all the way back to when Yeager was still in the service.

[Pavejimm]

I really wouldn't try to apply logic and common sense to the Air Force, especially regarding base realignmnet or closure.

Actually, it won't be all that far from the 10th SFG at Ft. Carson, CO. And don't forget Ft. Lewis and Coranodo(sp).

[DCH]

I'd figure DM or Kirtland would be logical choices..?

don't both already have CSAR as residents?

[Nuke]

Word has it there will be some sort of UAV and CSAR presence as well.

It will probably come as a shock to the Gunship bubba's though...they will actually have to PCS somewhere.

AFSOC already has a UAV squadron at Creech AFB (Indian Springs) and it will not be moving to HRT.

Gunship Bubbas have a rude awakening and will feel the pain finally!
They will be the ones that will be lining the halls of MPF to retire.
They will have to learn to get used to wearing helments and O2 masks on all training shoots. Cannon lies at around 6000 ft so most if not all shooting will be above 10 grand!

Thank God us contractors can say "Hell no we won't go"!

[Rotor Strike please]

AFSOC already has a UAV squadron at Creech AFB (Indian Springs) and it will not be moving to HRT.

Gunship Bubbas have a rude awakening and will feel the pain finally!
They will be the ones that will be lining the halls of MPF to retire.
They will have to learn to get used to wearing helments and O2 masks on all training shoots. Cannon lies at around 6000 ft so most if not all shooting will be above 10 grand!

Thank God us contractors can say "Hell no we won't go"!

As if the Pave guys have it rough with 1 of 2 assignments. Or, how about you 6th guys?!? If there was true justice, you guys would have to move to Valdosta, GA.

[Pavejimm]

As if the Pave guys have it rough with 1 of 2 assignments. Or, how about you 6th guys?!? If there was true justice, you guys would have to move to Valdosta, GA.

OUCH! Valdosta or Cannon? Hum.

The move out to Cannon could put a dent in our already pained efforts to attract people to the CV-22. I would be willing to bet that some of those people that were thinking about going to CV and being able to stay at HRT are rethinking their plans...

[Nuke]

As if the Pave guys have it rough with 1 of 2 assignments. Or, how about you 6th guys?!? If there was true justice, you guys would have to move to Valdosta, GA.
The 6th is also being looked at hard for the move. In Sept they up there manning by 120 positions and there is no more room at the Inn!!
The 6th is also looking at freezing all outbound assignments until they reach their manning goals.

[donr101395]

The 6th is also being looked at hard for the move. In Sept they up there manning by 120 positions and there is no more room at the Inn!!
The 6th is also looking at freezing all outbound assignments until they reach their manning goals.


We've already been givien the nod to freeze/delay on a case by case basis. I put together a building expansion plan already. It involves a ladder and mobilflex tents:D
Personally I see us having a hard time filling the slots anytime soon especially with the 60's going back to ACC and the Paves needing to keep as much experience as they can trying to balance some of the kids. Only time will tell.

[Nuke]

Good news for you Robe! If Randy A. knew how long you were gonna be there he would shit himself!!:D
We have some office space in our building, just dont mind the asbestos!!

Keep you head down and enjoy your trip!

[MS275]

Some people say cucumbers taste better pickeled.

Cannon is just like Hurby, minus the beaches, babes, and bars

MS

[donr101395]

You can say that again. The plan is to stay until it's no longer fun or Soph makes me grow up and get a "real" job. I can't believe I just said those nasty words grow up and job all in one sentence. I'll wash my mouth out with soap and give myslef 30 lashes.

[Turtle]

I heard a rumor yesterday that some V-22 guys were being recalled from the program to reinforce the instructor corps Pave community. Heard they are seeking experienced combat vets to augment the force.
Duck if you've got 01 time fellas!

[Silverbullet]

Cannon's not so bad. Hey remember that the CV-22 is manufactured just 120 miles up the road in Amarillo.


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Find another site to pimp your real estate sales expertise.

Your first post and you try to drum up business.... You're out of line.

[bucsfan44fd]

F*ck that!! Cannon and everyone there after the BRAC can get over it! Move on, press like everyone else does when the chips are down! Enjoy a change in senery...move to Texas!!! THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON THE BRAC IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Bottom line: It's a sh*t hole cess pool that survives only because of the military community! That's why no one lives there but by birth and economics motivation! Makes Kirtland look like Cancun...

If it's about range and flexibility...what about Gilla Bend? Edwards? There's gotta be a handful of option that are viable and sane?

Maybe I'm just pre-crusty and disgruntled?!

[Nuke]

F*ck that!! Cannon and everyone there after the BRAC can get over it! Move on, press like everyone else does when the chips are down! Enjoy a change in senery...move to Texas!!! THAT'S WHY IT WAS ON THE BRAC IN THE FIRST PLACE!!!

Bottom line: It's a sh*t hole cess pool that survives only because of the military community! That's why no one lives there but by birth and economics motivation! Makes Kirtland look like Cancun...

If it's about range and flexibility...what about Gilla Bend? Edwards? There's gotta be a handful of option that are viable and sane?

Maybe I'm just pre-crusty and disgruntled?!
You would'nt be a disgruntled Gunner by chance. AB maybe?

[KJ]

Hot off the wire:

Air Force announces Air Force Special Operations as new Cannon AFB mission

WASHINGTON - Air Force officials announced today that Cannon Air Force Base, N.M., will be the new home for an Air Force special operations wing.

Air Force Special Operations Command will accept ownership of Cannon AFB and the Melrose Range effective Oct. 1, 2007.

The decision came as a result of an eight-step process the Air Force began in the fall 2005 to explore a reuse for Cannon. The New Mexico Congressional delegation and community leaders actively supported this effort.

"Finding a reuse for Cannon Air Force Base was a top priority for the Air Force," said William C. "Bill" Anderson, Assistant Secretary of the Air Force for Installations, Environment and Logistics. "We were not just looking for a fit between Cannon's assets and a new user, we were looking for the best fit, and AFSOC is the best fit for Cannon."

Because of historical lineage, the 16th Special Operations Wing flag will transition to Cannon, and Hurlburt Field will regain its designation as the 1st Special Operations Wing.

Simultaneously, Air Combat Command's 27th Fighter Wing will begin drawing down as outlined in the 2005 Base Realignment and Closure recommendation. The wing will deactivate after the F-16 Fighting Falcons have been reassigned. That process is expected to take six to 12 months.

Military members directly support the F-16 mission at Cannon will transfer to new assignments as the aircraft they are responsible for transfer to their new bases. Mission support personnel will remain and support the incoming AFSOC unit.

Initially, the 16th Special Operations Wing will partition its assets to support the mission at Cannon. During the next few years, AFSOC will experience some growth as the result of the increased special operations mission as outlined in the Quadrennial Defense Review released earlier this year.

The growth in weapons systems and people will be divided between the two bases. New airframes, to include the CV-22 Osprey, will be assigned to Hurlburt/Eglin as well as to the new wing at Cannon. Other potential aircraft for Cannon are AC-130U Gunships and the MC-130H Combat Talon II. The final aircraft mix between Cannon and Hurlburt Field has not been finalized.

"The AFSOC expansion to Cannon offers special operators a western U.S. base to enhance support for its operations in the Pacific theater and to meet the objectives of our global defense posture," said Lt. Gen. Michael W. Wooley, AFSOC commander. "Additionally, the Melrose Range and the surrounding region open up new and unrestricted training opportunities AFSOC does not currently experience, to include joint and composite training with other services and nations, as well as mission training opportunities. Cannon basing of AFSOC assets enables the special operations community easy access to a high desert training environment much like that encountered in contingency operations."

Hurlburt Field will continue as the headquarters of Air Force Special Operations Command and will also be the home of the 1st Special Operations Wing.

"AFSOC is pleased to continue our strong relationship with the northwest Florida community," said General Wooley. "This is truly a win-win situation for Florida, New Mexico, and AFSOC."

In compliance with the National Environmental Policy Act, the Air Force will conduct a comprehensive evaluation of the mission change at Cannon AFB and of any changes in the use of Melrose Range. The studies are anticipated to take 15 to 18 months.

"The Air Force mission is to protect the United States and its interests around the world," said Michael Wynne, Secretary of the Air Force. "Force readiness is a top priority for the Air Force and was the major factor in my recommendation for this new use for Cannon."

The Air Force had until 2009 to identify a new use for Cannon's assets or the base would be closed in 2010, in accordance with the 2005 BRAC commission's recommendations. However, the Air Force set a goal to complete Cannon's search for a new use by summer 2006.

For more information, contact Shirley Curry in the Secretary of the Air Force Office of Public Affairs at (703) 695-0640, shirley.curry@pentagon.af.mil , Matt Durham, AFSOC/PA, at (850) 884-2865/5515, matthew.durham@hurlburt.af.mil or Capt Andre Kok, 27FW/PA, at (505) 784-4131, andre.kok@cannon.af.mil

[SN]

1st thing they need to do is send all the support people with more then one ACC assignment to Korea, and replace them with people who don't think fighters are the only combat aircraft in the AF.