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fish78
31 December 2006, 16:17
I know tis comes from STRATFOR but it is interesting that there is no media play on this or any other similar domestic groups...any of you alphabet types keeing an eye on this bunch?

From Stratfor:

TERRORISM BRIEF

United States: The Jamaat al-Fuqra Threat
Jun 03, 2005 1738 GMT

Consider, if you will, a group whose members live "free from the decadence
of a godless society" in guarded and insular communities in the rural United
States. Additionally, consider that some members of this group have been
convicted on a variety of weapons, fraud and terrorism charges. Those who
assume we are once again addressing right-wing extremists such as the Aryan
Nations would be wrong.

Although we do believe that right-wing extremists pose a threat to the
security of the United States, the group we describe does not give its
compounds names like Elohim City, the infamous compound of white
supremacists in Adair County, Okla. Instead they call them Islamburg (N.Y.),
Ahmadabad (Va.) and Holy Islamville (S.C.).

The group is Jamaat al-Fuqra -- Arabic for "community of the impoverished"
-- founded in the 1980s by Sheikh Mubarak Ali Gilani, a religious figure
from Pakistan who incorporated the group as a tax-exempt organization under
the name Muslims of the Americas. Its educational arm, the Quranic Open
University, takes American Muslims to Pakistan for training, expecting them
to return and instruct others.

Residents of Muslims of the Americas communities keep a low profile, display
a benign image and most of all deny the existence of Jamaat al-Fuqra. They
claim to be peaceful people who simply are attempting to escape the
decadence of American society. Actions by some of the residents, however,
belie that claim.

Many of the original al-Fuqra members were converts to Islam, and most were
African Americans. However, one of its first members -- and its first
bombmaker -- was Stephen Paul Paster, who converted from Judaism to Islam.
Paster was convicted for his role in the 1983 bombing of a Portland, Ore.,
hotel owned by the Hindu Bhagwan Rajneesh cult from India. He also was tried
and acquitted on charges stemming from two other West Coast bombings. Upon
his release from prison, Paster moved to Lahore, Pakistan, to join Gilani
and other instructors at the Quranic Open University, where he allegedly
helps to teach what Gilani calls "advanced training courses in Islamic
Military Warfare."

The U.S. government claims that al-Fuqra members were involved in 13
bombings and arsons during the 1980s and 1990s and were responsible for at
least 17 homicides. Many of these attacks targeted Indian groups such as the
Hare Krishnas, or heterodox Muslim groups such as the Ahmadiyya sect. In
1991, five al-Fuqra members were arrested at a border crossing in Niagara
Falls, N.Y., after authorities found their plans to attack an Indian cinema
and a Hindu temple in Toronto, Canada. Three of the five later were
convicted on charges stemming from the plot.

According to sources, many al-Fuqra members have fought in Afghanistan,
Kashmir, Lebanon, Bosnia and Chechnya. Several members also have been
affiliated with the al-Kifah Refugee Center -- popularly known as the
Brooklyn Jihad Office. Group member Clement Hampton-el, for example,
provided weapons training to several people associated with the Brooklyn
Jihad Office. One of those men, El Sayyid Nosair later would use that
training to assassinate the Rabbi Meir Kahane in Manhattan. Hampton-el was
convicted along with several other men, including Nosair's cousin, Ibrahim
Elgabrowny and Sheikh Omar Abdel Rahman, also known as The Blind Sheikh, in
the 1993 New York Bomb Plot Case, and sentenced to serve 35 years.

More recently, police investigators working on the D.C. sniper case tied
convicted killer John Allen Muhammed to al-Fuqra. Rumors also surfaced that
"Shoe Bomber" Richard Reid was connected to the group. Wall Street Journal
reporter Daniel Pearl, in fact, was investigating the Reid/al-Fuqra
connection and was in the process of attempting to interview Gilani when he
was abducted and killed.

In addition to Hampton-el, several other members of al-Fuqra are in federal
and state prisons on a variety of weapons charges and convictions stemming
from worker's compensation, credit card, welfare and driver's license fraud.
The group allegedly uses its imprisoned members to recruit other prisoners.
Furthermore, it was revealed during Hampton-el's trial that one of the
organization's tasks was to recruit American veterans to fight in
Afghanistan.

Al-Fuqra members own several security companies, which provide a source of
income and security for the group and its compounds, but also offer a
plausible explanation for the presence of firing ranges on the properties --
a cover for the paramilitary training that allegedly is conducted at the
compounds.

Perhaps most disconcerting is that al-Fuqra's cadre of battle tested
jihadist warriors -- men who refer to themselves as "Soldiers of Allah" and
"Mohammed's Commandos" -- are mostly Americans who legally can obtain U.S.
passports and operate in the United States without raising suspicion.

As the United States advances its war on terrorism abroad and takes measures
to tighten immigration procedures in order to protect U.S. citizens from
foreign militants, it is important that authorities not overlook America's
homegrown jihadists.

Blackjack78
8 January 2007, 11:18
Fish, short answer,yes.

fish78
8 January 2007, 14:53
Short answer will do.

MixedLoad
25 January 2007, 05:48
Interesting. You can never spend a day on this board and not learn something of value. Good post!

Parajuevos
3 March 2007, 22:47
This is another good reason for us to insist on keeping our 2nd amendment rights. I will never give up my right to bear arms and the way this world is looking, we'll eventually be dealing with this Islamic cancer, in a big way, right here in the good old USA. We'd better stay vigilant.

Doc P
4 March 2007, 08:55
...we'll eventually be dealing with this Islamic cancer, in a big way, right here in the good old USA. We'd better stay vigilant.

True and we're already seeing this. I heard the Director for CT from the FBI speak about a week ago. He gave us some generic scoop regarding terrorism within our borders. An al qaeda trained sniper was in residence, but mostly the new threats are those "inspired by" types.

Blackjack78
8 March 2007, 10:29
True and we're already seeing this. I heard the Director for CT from the FBI speak about a week ago. He gave us some generic scoop regarding terrorism within our borders. An al qaeda trained sniper was in residence, but mostly the new threats are those "inspired by" types.


Yes, the "Inspired" by types. That has happened already here, more then once. These acts are a fine line between being classified "Hate Crimes" or Lone wolf, small cell, Domestic Terrorism w/international flavor. We shall leave it that being an open forum and such.

T-Rock
8 March 2007, 10:50
I will never give up my right to bear arms and the way this world is looking, we'll eventually be dealing with this Islamic cancer, in a big way, right here in the good old USA. We'd better stay vigilant.

Amen Bro....


I heard the Director for CT from the FBI speak about a week ago. He gave us some generic scoop regarding terrorism within our borders. An al qaeda trained sniper was in residence, but mostly the new threats are those "inspired by" types.

Lemme guess..............noone like pork.....:D

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Rd8cRvZZv44 ......:D

T-Rock
12 May 2007, 22:45
Situated within a dense forest at the foothills of the Catskill Mountains on the outskirts of Hancock, New York, Islamberg is not an ideal place for a summer vacation unless, of course, you are an exponent of the Jihad or a fan of Osama bin Laden.

The 70 acre complex is surrounded with "No trespassing" signs;
It is home to hundreds - - all in Islamic attire, Venturing into the complex last summer, Douglas Hagmann, an intrepid investigator and director of the Northeast Intelligence Service, came upon a military training area at the eastern perimeter of the property. The area was equipped with ropes hanging from tall trees, wooden fences for scaling, a make-shift obstacle course, and a firing range. Hagmann said that the range appeared to have been in regular use.

Islamberg is not as benign as a Buddhist monastery or a Carmelite convent. Nearly every weekend, neighbors hear sounds of gunfire. Some, including a combat veteran of the Vietnam War, have heard the bang of small explosives. None of the neighbors wished to be identified for fear of "retaliation." "We don't even dare to slow down when we drive by," one resident said. "They own the mountain and they know it and there is nothing we can do about it but move, and we can't even do that. Who wants to buy a property near that?"

http://www.canadafreepress.com/2007/paul-williams051107.htm

Don't know how reliable the Canada Free Press is; nevertheless, sounds like they've got an infestation of Jamaat al-Fuqra?
Things seemed to have changed around my neck of the woods as well. We've got Shia 20mins to the east and Sunni 20 mins to the west.:eek:

Sharky
13 May 2007, 13:47
Fish, short answer,yes.



Yep.