workout books

[MTS2]

What are the best workout books you can purchase for BUD/S preperation? Are they worth the money and easy to follow? I've seen so many (excluding BUD/S workout books) that down right suck!

[mpow66]

Mark DeLisles is an excellent book.Looks easy but its not.Uses pyramiding system.Just bought the book.

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[rpg_dude]

Stew Smith's book is great, it uses pyramids and other variations of workouts, but it's not for beginners http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/cool.gif

[mpow66]

rpg dude,
what kind of leg workout does he have?more than just running and hills sprints.

[rpg_dude]

Originally posted by mpow66:
rpg dude,
what kind of leg workout does he have?more than just running and hills sprints.

it has the running, jogging, sprinting and leg PT such as squats, toe raises, frog hops etc., They can help build up leg strength to slightly improve running time.

[MTS2]

What are the titles of these books and which is better for a beginer??

Oh, and how much do they go for?

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[rpg_dude]

They cost about $15-20. Smith's book has a four week workout section for beginners.

Smith's book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1578260140/ref=sim_books/102-0849881-6633746)

Chalker's book (http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0688158625/ref=sim_books/102-0849881-6633746)



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[MTS2]

Sorry guys, I just found this same info under "fitness preps" in this forum. rpg dude, I read the reviews for both books and one guy said the material in Chalker's book can be downloaded from the SEAL's official website, with the exception of a few things...is this true? If that's the case, I guess I'll follow the downloaded version to finish and then purchase Stew's book. Do these books also incorporate weights, or is it all calisthenics?

[rpg_dude]

Chalker's book has weights but Stew's doesn't, Stew said that his book doesn't have weights because there aren't any at BUD/S, and the warning order was also writen by Stew, but it's not as hard as his book.

[MTS2]

Thanks for the info bro. Couple more questions...would it be possible to incorporate a weight program to Stew's workout, or is this somewhat impossible due to the intensity and time spent on his program? Also, does he have swimming/ running intervals squeezed in there and nutrition advice?

[rpg_dude]

You can incorporate weight in the workout. It doesnt have any nutrition advice. And it does have a few days that are run/swim/run

[Nissan]

You can incorperate weights into any routine..I have used both of these books to prepare for the Navy and personally I think Chalkers book was a little better then stews but Stews was also geared toward more of a initial build up while Chalkers was a build up then some more kick ass take names hard ass PT...Just rememeber yo0u have to give your body appropriote rest in between workouts opr your body won't recover and your muscle mass won't go as high as it could if you got good rest...you won't need to use creatine or anything else like that when you workout either...its just a waste of money (Yeah I know some people will disagree with that). both have a nuitrition section but to be honest...I never really used either...

PS You will fall outa shape in boot camp so be prepared for that contingency...

[MTS2]

I think I'll forget the wieghts...I've been doing some reasearch and it doesn't seem lifting helps that much in aiding cals, besides, I suppose it only means more recovery time needed to recuperate worked muscles (I can't stand formulating my own workouts anyway). I guess you can't go wrong if you follow these books to the letter.

How come you like Chalker's better than Stew's? I can't seem to make up my mind about which to get. I'd rather just buy one and stick with it. Am I right in assuming that Stew's is the toughest out of all of them?

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[Nissan]

Actualy MTS you'd be off a little in my opinion...I thought Chalkers was the better of the 2 but other folks think otherwise...Personally I think you should incorperate weights into your workout if you can...While the other workouts are great being able to do alot of military presses with 50-75 lbs will help alot when you start doing logs and boat work...and also don't forget your neck...it may not seem like much but belive me it will pay off to strengthen those muscles just that much more...Don't worry about formulating your own workout routines just go and do it all..don't worry about oh I gotta do 4 sets of 5 reps of such and such before I move onto 2 sets of this and that...just go and push yourself..it will make you stronger and while you might not get a "balanced" workout it worked for me so I know others can make it work for them...and also don't be a calorie counter for working out...you don't need to its not as important as people build it up to be..

[rpg_dude]

Why do you need strong neck muscles at BUD/S?

[Fred]

because whiplash is common when running by all the A$$ hanging out in front of the Hotel Del

oh, and you have to carry some boats on your head too

[rpg_dude]

Oh, I was wondering what the neck exercises were for...

[MTS2]

Thanks for replying guys. To give you an idea about how "out of shape" I am, I had to device a workout plan that builds up to week 1 of category 1 from the downloadable version at the Navy SEAL's official site. As pitiful as this sounds, it's true. I've been a couch potato for a long time and finally decided to do something about it, not to mention aim for a goal that most people who know me would say "right, you?!?!" Never the less, I managed to take of 40lbs and am finally down to 200. I'm a little over 5'8'' and am shooting for 165lbs. I'm finally doing it! Right now, I'm sticking to my own workout... which at this point in time is probably nothing more than a simple 10 minute warm-up for most of you out there. After that, I plan on following the workout under the "warning order" to completion and then move on to either Stew's book or Chalker's. Given my history, and after I finish the warning order's workout, would it be better if I started with Chalker's book and then move on to Smith's?? I'm starting from a REALLY basic beginning here so I'm not exactly busting with knowledge about what to do and how to go about it, but I'm learning http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/wink.gif Thanks again for your replies!

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[mpow66]

Mts,
You should really checkout Mark DeLisles(USN SEAL) book''The Complete Total Body Fitness Program''It has 3 levels and all you need is pull-up&dip tower,and your own body weight.LOOKS EASY BUT ITS NOT.Its in the soc.com book store.

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[Rat on a Stick]

Well, his books are not specifically oriented towards BUD/S and I wouldnt rely on them for that. But a guy named Pavel Tsatsouline has some KILLER books with very cool, unique ideas to strength, flexibility and ab straining. He does not focus on cardio at all in his books however.

His book "Power to the People" is his strength training book based on Russian special forces PT methods and it is VERY interesting. His book on abdominal training is also supposed to be really good, even though I have not read it yet.

Basically his ideas revolve around training the central nervous system vs just training for muscle hypertrophy(bodybuilder crap). This way great strength can be built without creating excess bulk, which would help if you want to keep your cardio abilities. Pavel's ideas focus more on increasing neurological efficiency of a muscle's ability to contract, vs just building a bigger muscle(hypertrophy) thru bodybuilder type approaches.

[MTS2]

mpow66,

Thanks...I'll check it out.