Training Program

[navigator]

Does anyone have a good training regimine that would be a good preperation for BUD/S? I would appreciate any advice. I am trying to piece together several sources to come up with the best combination. Thanks again.

Will

[Medic_21]

There are many on the market that, from what I've heard, are pretty good. The routine that is seen in the "Warning Order" on many web sites is pretty good too. I haven't tried it but in theory it should produce good results.

[DFC5343]

Call the motivators at Great Lakes. They have a pre BUDS training program outline that might help. If you need a # email me.

[superstu]

www.getfitnow.com, (http://www.getfitnow.com,) great website, great forum, great book, run by retired navy seal stew smith.

[SolidStrike]

yeah, Getfitnow.com is great. Get Stew Smith's book ( he has a new one coming out, too). They're incredible.

[navigator]

DFC5343, could I please have that email?

[DFC5343]

Check you inbox.

[navigator]

DFC5343, thank you.

[DFC5343]

Roger that and good luck http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/cool.gif

[trident86]

Another good point of contact is Chris Bent (retired SEAL officer). He spends quite a bit of time helping young hopefuls prepare for the program. Try frogfather@aol.com

[navigator]

Trident, thanks. That should be very helpful.

[Seoultrain34]

Navigator, as a secondary option, you could go to the SEALchallenge webpage www.sealchallenge.navy.mil (http://www.sealchallenge.navy.mil) It has two sections, which are 9 weeks long each. The first section is for people who aren't physically active and the second section is for people who are. BTW, for any BTDT's out there, when doing the pushups for BUD/S, do my arms have to be parallel with my body?

[Daredevil]

Where else are they going to be?

I don't know about at BUD/S but when you are taking the test they are very strict regarding everything. They'll put their palm flat on the ground under your chest and won't allow you to count your pushup unless your chest hits the top of their hand.

[This message has been edited by Daredevil (edited 12-08-2000).]

[Nissan]

When you do the push ups make sure they are a little more then shoulder width apart and when you go down you can touch your chest to the top of a hand laying flat on the deck (ie open hand palm down touching chest to the top of the knuckle) if any part but your chest hits then the push up doesn't count if your butt goes up it doesn't count if you lean it doesn't count...make sure you do them perfect.

[Seoultrain34]

Also, when doing pullups, would my knuckles have to face me while my fingers face away from me? Another thing, would it be wise to do my PT while still in High School or should I do it 5 to 6 months before I take BUD/S? I plan to go to college first then take BUD/S.

[navigator]

Yeah, I got the SEAL Challenge stuff. Seoul's question about PT in high school applies to me too, I am not going to join until after collge. (I am 16 and in 10th grade now.)

[Jims]

I seem to recall something about no plan surviving first contact...something like that.

College will monkey up the best laid plans.

Don't take that as slight on a college education. But if you should wind up in a nancy-pants university (read: anything but a military school), realize going in that you will need discipline and motivation in truckloads to make it out with a degree AND be in the shape you need to be in to go to BUD/S. Especially if you want a commission. Throw in a job and a girlfriend OR social life and you are dangerously close to being over-loaded.

Also, don’t take that as discouragement, you just have to realize the cost of doing business. Do you want a first class education at a top school, or do you want to be an operator? Do you want to be Joe College or do you want to be the guy who never goes out and is always either working out or asleep in the library? Is it possible to have the best of both worlds? Sure, its possible, but I never saw it (including buddies at the Academy, NROTC and straight-up civilians).

[FutureMustang]

College is indeed a big ass monkey wrench

High School: Honor Student, great ACT/SAT scores, used to go out only on the weekends, a girlfriend of 2 years, 9 varsity letters, a congressional nomination to West Point (declined my appointment), had a 4.6 sec 40 time, 5'11", 195 pounds of solid rock.

I entered college 3 and a half years ago inspired and committed to doing the very best I could.

The end of my freshman year:
1.180 pounds of blubbery fat you could lose a quarter in
2.5/6 day a week bar habit
3.2.1 GPA
4.$1500 bill on my credit card from gambling at the riverboat casinos (underage, and illegal)

Sophomore year:
Got a little worse....
1.Skipped entire classes. I'm not talking about skipping a psychology class one friday afternoon, I'm talking about skipping the whole class! Excluding tests, of course.
2.1.9 GPA, a letter from the registrar informing me I was on probation, and a letter from my ROTC commander telling me to shape up or he was going to plant his foot up my asshole.
3.had a brilliant idea of how to make my attendance at morning pt sessions more regular-stay at the bars till 0300, go to the gambling boats till 0530, and show up to PT at 0600! what a great idea!
4."Oh well, Fuck it," attitude that took the previous three things in stride and got my bar tab even larger.

Shortcut to senior year...
I'm going to graduate, miraculously, with a 2.5 GPA, following 3 semesters on the Dean's List. I quit ROTC and decided to enlist instead, and am getting around to getting in shape.

The moral of the story is that you're being way too forward looking at the age of 16. It's a long road to go. Starting a PT program for 6 or 8 years down the road probably isn't a bad idea, but you're fooling yourself in a lot of respects.

Work on finishing high school and picking the right college. After that, work your butt off in college and still have fun (not too much).

Prediction: You'll get to college, you'll see all of the girls, the bars, and other assorted distractions, and one of two things will happen:

1)You'll look at that degree you're working towards. You'll think your aspirations of being a SEAL, and you'll realize that you'll be cold, wet, tired, and physically miserable most of your adult life. You'll take a job as a stock broker at AG Edwards and forget all about what you wanted to be as a kid.

2)You'll question the hell out of joining the military, you'll decide it's a stupid idea for about 2 years, and then you'll come back to it, more dedicated to doing it then ever. This was me.

I have a lot of regrets, but I'm going to make it in college and probably make it in life. I was always looking 4, 5 years forward and thinking today and tomorrow would work itself out. Work through today and tomorrow. Do that, and I promise you'll end up something: a SEAL swimming the deep blue, a special ed teacher changing the lives of kids and their parents, or an investment banker moving millions. You'll change your mind a thousand times between now and then.

Best of luck to you,

Jim

[RogueExec]

Jeeeeeeeeeeeeez, Mustang. Makes my decision to leave Active Duty and then go back to the reserve 6 years later look pretty dull and unimaginative.

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"Don't think of it as theft. Think of it as creative augmentation of your operational capabilities."

[navigator]

Mustang, thank you very much for that advice, it makes a lot of sense. I realize that in order to do college and still be prepared to go to BUD/S, it will require a tremendous amount of self-discipline, but I know I can manage it. I am pretty sure though that this is what I want to do. Now I just need to work towards it. Also, I do not drink, nor expect to even when I can legally, alcoholism almost killed my uncle (retired Navy Captain, he is sober now) and so I know what it can do to you.

Thank you again,
Will

P.S. I would rather not go to college, but I know I really must, because I could be just one injury away from being a civilian, and would need that education to support myself.

[FutureMustang]

Just for the record, I am not nor was I ever an alcoholic. My drinking affected my class attendance, my grades, and my credit card. That's it.

Jim

[navigator]

Sorry if you thought that I was saying you were an alcoholic, but I wasn't. What I was saying is that I know what alcohol can do to you, even in small quantities.

[DFC5343]

I love alcohol...thats why I don't drink.

[MichaelDirrane]

Excessive exercise can retard growth. If you excercise excessively while growing you may get stuck on the same number of repetitions and never increase. Thats why it is better to wait until your are 21-25 before starting an excercise program. Consult a physician before doing that.

Originally posted by navigator:
Does anyone have a good training regimine that would be a good preperation for BUD/S? I would appreciate any advice. I am trying to piece together several sources to come up with the best combination. Thanks again.

Will

[sax]

Originally posted by MichaelDirrane:
Excessive exercise can retard growth. If you excercise excessively while growing you may get stuck on the same number of repetitions and never increase. Thats why it is better to wait until your are 21-25 before starting an excercise program. Consult a physician before doing that.



if you wait till 21-25 to start exercising you are dreaming if you think you'll be in shape for BUDS...that is plain bullshit. Exercising at a young age will not retard your growth. That is beyond being conservative...that's straight up pansy ass.

good luck with your plans on becoming a frogman.

Sax

[SpeedAggressionSurprise]

Originally posted by MichaelDirrane:
Excessive exercise can retard growth. If you excercise excessively while growing you may get stuck on the same number of repetitions and never increase. Thats why it is better to wait until your are 21-25 before starting an excercise program. Consult a physician before doing that.



You are a pussyboy

[Paintman]

SpeedAggressionSurprise,

Was that incredibly eloquent reply really necessary? The last thing we need here is yet another flame war.

Chris

[Smoke]

Seoultrain and Navigator,
To give you some hope. I am a junior in college and planning to go to BUD/S when I graduate. I am schooling full time, work full time and PT full time. It doesn't leave much room for a social life or a girlfriend for that much but it will give you a hell of a chance to one day proudly wear a trident on your chest. Just telling you if you bust your @ss then there's hope of you getting schooling and a real chance at SEALs. Oh yeah, and my GPA is a 3.3

Smoke out

[navigator]

Smoke, thanks for the encouragement. One good thing about going to college first is that if I make it, I have the option of applying to OCS and becoming an officer after a tour to two. This, I understand is really the best way to go if you want to be a SEAL officer.