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HmtPD2
21 November 2000, 16:25
Many of you may have heard this, or have read the study that was done, but for those of you that have not....

There was a study that was done by a Psychologist that delt with officer safety. The Dr interviewed several inmates who had been convicted of attacking police officers, killing police officers. The Dr asked these inmates what factors led the "dirtbag" to believe he would be able to win if he attacked the cop. Basically, we as police officers size up a guy when we contact them. We look at his appaerance. Is he built or in shape, is he a tweeker, is he a parolee or a gangbanger, could I win if this guy rushed me, should I call a back before I contact him. Well, this Dr. found that criminals did the exact same thing to us!

Here is what the study found that criminals use to size up cops.

* Physical appereance;
Is the officer in shape or is he a fat ass.
Uniform clean and pressed, shoes shined. Inmates that cited these things said that it showed an officer took things seriously, ie training, policies procedures, self defense.

* Approach to suspect;
If the officer walked up casually, or did the officer take charge of the scene. The majority of inmates that had killed officers said that the officer was not in control, and allowed them to much freedom to move.
Inmates talked about keeping the gun side away, standing in the "interview stance." Inmates said that they were less likely to take on a newer officer because they were younger, faster, and "had just finished the self defense training."

* Several inmates talked about leather gear and its condition. Some talked about how "worn out" the holster looked. Judging that the officer may have practiced a lot. Some mentioned that if the gun belt was "cluttered" with a bunch of stuff, or did the officer appear to carry things in an organized, "tactically placed" manner. Some even cited that they noticed officers who carried every type of weapon they could carry, or did they carry what would do the job. Some inmates even cited looking for lint on the rear sight of the pistol in the holster. Also mentioned was whether the officer wore a vest or not, indicating an "it can't happen to me" attitude.

* Also mentioned was asking for favors from the officers, ie. "can I have a cigarette", "can you loosen my cuffs." Getting the officer to talk about personal lives, ie. seeing your wedding ring and asking about your wife. This was done in an attempt to change the officers mind set.
Also, when the officer would place the person in a position such as "seated on the curb with legs straight out." The person would slowley change the position to see it the officer noticed.

Several inmates talked about seeing the inside of the officers car and seeing "burger wrappers, and trash." The Dr. said that this was not part of officer appereance, but that it was mentioned enough to bring up in the study. A few mentioned the appereance of the car itself, was it washed or dirty.

Also inmates mentioned that when an officer touched them, such as a hancuff manuever, they judged to see if the officer was "going through the motions", or was he really placing the person in a hold. One thing that the Dr. noticed was that male or female did not seem to present a factor.

This is not all word for word, but I covered the basics, I 'm sure any dept could get the study. If anyone is interested, let me know and I will get you the actual case study, and the Dr.'s name.

Make sure your flashlight is charged, and you have a round in the chamber!

Stay safe

R. Steht
Sgt/ USMC (former)
0331/ 8152/ 8154
Police Officer

jnc36rcpd
22 November 2000, 13:38
"Killed in the Line of Duty", published by the FBI, reached similiar conclusions. This study was conducted by Bureau profilers (I'm not sure what the unit is being called this month) who interviewed convicted murderers of police officers. Slain officers tended to disregard arrest/control procedures, believe they could "read" people, and have a "community service" attitude. I'm not sure it's stil in print, but the study was available free of charge from the Bureau. Be safe.

RECON5
24 November 2000, 23:15
Those are words from the horses mouth and there is nothing more sobering than to hear some guy you have put in tell you he was looking for some of the keys pointed out in that survey to make it very applicable.

I arrested a guy in the early 90's, who had shot two people...1 for bringing his bicycle back with a flat tire, and the other for not paying back $2.50 he borrowed. Threats and total defiance until back-up showed up, then just passive resistance. He was charged with Criminal Trespass, Failure to Identify to a Peace Officer (warrant), and resisting arrest. He chose 9months of boot camp in Harris County (Houston,Tx)instead of 5 years in prison. About a year later we had a "come to Jesus meeting" and got the facts of life straight. That is when he told me.

He checked my uniform noticing it starched and clean. He checked my stance, gun side back, hands in interview position. Not behind my back or at my side. I showed him respect, but did not take his crap. "I noticed you were a professional". He also told me he was trying to push my buttons on the arrest to see if I would react. He mouthed off, showed resistance at the first attempt to cuff him (solo), after a safe disengagement securing cuffs (potiental weapon)I stood my ground to fight or chase. He sat on the hood of my car mouthing about how I was to scared to try and "kick his ass", and threatened to kick mine...but never moved off the hood of the car. If I had(gotten into a scuffle with him with this big crowd around) his "home boy's" , who were standing around watching would have "took you out". "I couldn't get you to jump stupid. You was watching everybody and you didn't let the dissing about being scared wind you up". Well, atleast he didn't see it.

This has been almost 10 years ago, and I have not forgotten that conversation. I was even more mindfull of my appearance and not getting involved in a pissing contest or taking it personally, while doing my job.

For whatever this worth.


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FLTCREW1
26 November 2000, 04:05
Originally posted by HmtPD:
If anyone is interested, let me know and I will get you the actual case study, and the Dr.'s name.

HmtPD,
Send it. Would be very interested.


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[This message has been edited by FLTCREW1 (edited 11-26-2000).]

Gunpoint
29 November 2000, 22:49
If you call the local FBI Field Office and ask for the Police Training Unit, they can hook you up with the "Killed in the Line of Duty" study which is extremely informative. If the Police Training Unit guy is an asshole (most are stuck there pre-retirement) send me an e-mail and I'll yell at his fat lazy ass and get you the book myself.

Out//