PDA

View Full Version : Death sentence, 1881


grrlcop74
2 December 2000, 18:49
United States v. Gonzales (1881), US District Court, New Mexico Territory Sessions

The following is a verbatim transcript of a sentence imposed upon a defendant convicted of murder in the Federal District Court of the Territory of New Mexico many years ago by a United States Judge, sitting at Taos in an adobe stable used as a temporary courtroom.

"Jose Manuel Miguel Xaviar Gonzales, in a few short weeks, it will be spring. The snows of winter will flee away, the ice will banish and the air will become soft and balmy. In short, Jose Manuel Miguel Xaviar Gonzales, the annual miracle of the years will awaken and come to pass, but you won't be there."
"The rivulet will run its soaring course to the sea, the timid desert flowers will put forth their tender shoots, the glorious valleys of this imperial domain will blossom as the rose. Still, you won't be there."
"From every tree top, some wild woods songster will carol his mating song, butterflies will sport in the sunshine, the busy bee will hum happy as it pursues its accustomed vocation. The gentle breeze will tease the tassels of the wild grasses, and all nature, Jose Manuel Miguel Xaviar Gonzales, will be glad, but you. You won't be here to enjoy it because I command the U.S. MARSHAL or some other officers of the Country to lead you out to some remote spot, swing you by the neck from a knotting bough of some sturdy oak, and let you hang until you are dead."
"And then, Jose Manuel Miguel Gonzales, I further command that such officer or officers retire quickly from your dangling corpse, that vultures may descend from the heavens upon your filthy body until nothing shall remain but the bare, bleached bones of a cold-blooded, copper-colored, blood-thirsty, throat-cutting, chili-eating, sheep-herding, murdering son-of-a-bitch."

Can I get another hell yeah??!!
Kristen

Terry Jones
2 December 2000, 21:30
HELL YEAH! Shit Hot, Your Honor

Got any info about what this guy did to get the judge so riled?


[This message has been edited by Terry Jones (edited 12-02-2000).]

RECON5
3 December 2000, 01:58
And the Choir says.... "Amen"

------------------
REMEMBER 1*

jnc36rcpd
3 December 2000, 02:54
I assume that Ed Asner and Glenn Close were not on hand to organize protests to free this obviously talented and uplifting young man. The judge's fascination with spring indicates that he is a victim of Seasonally Affected Disorder. This would obviously make him less than impartial even if we disregard his racism.

Free Jose! Free Jose! Oh..wait...I guess this one is water over the bridge.

Be safe.

Sharky
3 December 2000, 06:06
LMAO........F*ckit..........Kill em all.

WS-G
5 December 2000, 23:18
I prefer stoning. That way, everyone gets a piece of the turd du jour.

ski
6 December 2000, 00:50
Ah...another sad tale of a promising future poet laurate or Nobel Peace Prize winner cut down in the prime of his life as a result of a probably minor error in judgement by no real fault of his own due to the historical institutional injustices thrust upon unsuspecting innocents by turn of the century justice systems. No doubt Mr. Gonzales would have proven a worthy and productive citizen had the judge shown more understanding, care, and concern not only for the accused but for the rest of the disenfranchised community that Mr. Gonzales so loved and served.

A loud and hearty "Fuckin' A!" towards the bench!

dsumner
6 December 2000, 15:14
If a modern day judge made a statement like that. The ACLU would have his balls cut off.

RECON5
7 December 2000, 08:37
We still have a few that will stand up and fight the ACLU like Judge Moore, who was filed on by the ACLU for posting the Ten Commandments in his Court Room. He won and they still hang there today.

"and the people said.....Amen"

grrlcop74
7 December 2000, 23:38
Judge Moore was just elected by a landslide to the Alabama Supreme Court...just a little FYI.

Kristen

RECON5
8 December 2000, 08:38
Got money says he takes them with him......

P.s. Thanks for the update, I had not heard that.

------------------
REMEMBER 1*

SIR
12 December 2000, 21:03
...copper-colored...
Hummmm, that judge doesn't sound like a good old boy who wouldn't have minded stringin' up a few little messy-hen fellers to let the rest of the foul smellin', lazy little bastards know who the top dawg in the pack was, d'ya reckon?? After all, de's just the hired field help, an' they breed like rabbits, so no trouble replacin' em, right BOY?? Kinda them them negro fellers, huh?
For those of you who didn't quite clue in, I am being SARCASTIC. Flame away, fellas. Hu-yuck.

[This message has been edited by SIR (edited 12-12-2000).]

WS-G
13 December 2000, 05:53
Don't go away mad, SemenInRectum, just go away.

SIR
13 December 2000, 12:08
Ha ha ha ha he he he he, it is all but to laugh. It has been a long time since I have seen such class and wit distilled into one sentence. I'm glad you waited until after junior high to drop out, cause I sure would have been left grasping in the dark to find such droll wit elsewhere in this world.
If you are just burning inside to know jackass, those are initials, standing for Samuel Ian Remington.
Any more bouts of witty verbiage to share, my slack-jawed peer?

grrlcop74
13 December 2000, 14:12
I highly doubt Salter is too slack-jawed. I might suggest you take your canine and equestrian extravaganza on the road before the defecation strikes the rotary wind producing oscillator. Your command of the Webster's dictionary is not impressing anyone. And what is it that you do for a living that you can look down your nose at the rest of us?

Kristen

[This message has been edited by grrlcop74 (edited 12-14-2000).]

RogueExec
14 December 2000, 11:35
This (ahem) gentleman is a pharmaceutical specialist (read "DRUG DEALER") whose in-laws are mostly of hispanic background; hence his distaste for your post ---- nevermind the fact that the HIQ (that's Hispanic In Question) was a convicted murderer.

This is the same holier-than-thou, wanna-be Ivy Leaguer who came into another forum and put a bunch of BS initials after his name to try to impress us with his "book knowledge" and then gave some sob story about his future wife and her brother having a rough time crossing the border ILLEGALLY!

Look, Samuel Ian Remington (a.k.a. Charles Emerson Winchester, the third) you were told in that last forum that your opinion was valid, but your attack was unwarranted. That thread was to honor a Border Guard who was tragically and critically injured by an illegal alien trying to cross the border...ILLEGALLY (sound familiar?) Your defense of an alien who attacks a Border Guard doing his duty is ludicrous and unfounded. You call us closed-minded and yet your views are purely uni-directional. I fail to see the point in coming into a forum you KNOW to be inhabited by those who have, or soon will, defend this country and start spouting off with your anti-defense rhetoric, which is about as aged as the igneous formation from which you crawled out from under.

Attacking Mr. Salter will gain you nothing, as he is well-respected in this forum. And clearly, your view of the world, through that idealogical prism, is not going to bode well when those of this forum see things through the warrior's clear glass. After your post in that other thread, you said that you were leaving......I'm holding the door, smiling (wryly, I might add) and pointing the way.

RECON5
14 December 2000, 14:50
YEAH......what he said............
Go get'em Rogue...(with all those .25 words)
(LOL)


------------------
REMEMBER 1*

RogueExec
14 December 2000, 17:58
I was going to continue, but I need the quarters for laundry.

WS-G
14 December 2000, 19:51
An attack? Oh... is that what that was? <yawn>

ANACONDA
15 December 2000, 03:26
SIR IS AN ANOTOMICAL ABERRATION. HIS LINGUAL HYPERTROPHY IS, TO AN AMAZING SCALE, A MERE DISTILLATION OF MICROBIAL VOYEURISM THAT IS, BY ALL CERTAINTY A PLEXUS OF AN EXTENSIVE SYNDROME. THE PRECUSORS OF SUCH SYNDROMES ARE PREDOMINANT WHEN THE ARENAS OF SOCIAL ORDER, APATHY, AND TO A DEGREE, CONSCIOUSNESS OF SELF ARE OF UN-EQUALED PARAMETERS AND IN EFFECT CONFRONTS AND PREVENTS ANY EFFORT OF HOMEOSTASIS / SOCIAL EQUILIBRIUM.

SIMPLY PUT : THE MAN IS FULL OF SHIT !

THERE'S SOMETHING WRONG WITH HIS MEDULLA OBLONGATA


CREDAT JUDEAH SOPELLA, NO NIEGO.

RogueExec
15 December 2000, 11:45
*pulling out dictionary*

Let's see.......uh, .....aberration... that's "A", right? Okay.....oops, sorry, I gotta hit the head real quick.

Hey SIR, I'm outta TP, lemme have that degree of yours real quick so I can wipe, will ya?

[This message has been edited by RogueExec (edited 12-15-2000).]

DFC5343
17 December 2000, 05:17
Originally posted by SIR:
[B]Ha ha ha ha he he he he, it is all but to laugh. It has been a long time since I have seen such cum in my ass distilled into one bung hole. I'm glad you waited until after junior high to shoe horn your balls in, cause I sure would have been left gasping in the dark to find such manly flesh elsewhere in this world.
If you are just burning inside to know jackass, those are initials, standing for Seman In Rectum.
/B]

There needs to be a post of shame for the losers that spew there junk. Start with HSDH and the list goes on.... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/tongue.gif

RogueExec
18 December 2000, 11:41
Hey, we could go to geocities.com and build a site for a Bulletin Board Idiots Wall of Shame. Let's see, where's our web guru....?

ANACONDA
20 December 2000, 01:56
SORRY ABOUT THAT, BEEN HANGING AROUND THEM DOC'S TOO MUCH AND GETTING OVEREXPOSED TO THEIR "VERBATIM".
TELL YOU WHAT, BY SOME OF THE WORDS THEY USE YOU'D THINK THEY CHARGE BY THE SYLLABLE.

OH BUT THE NURSES !

NURSES !

RogueExec
20 December 2000, 11:11
Just not the Night Shift Nurses, bro.....any job where the application actually asks...

Are you at least 75 pounds overweight?
[ ] YES [ ] NO

If you answered "NO", please give this back to HR and leave, or apply for Day Shift.

....can't be good. Just can't. Eeeewwwwww.

Marauder
20 December 2000, 13:32
Now now, let's not have any nurse bashing. If they got pissed off enough, I think that both my mom and my nursing prof could take ya. And neither is your typical overweight Nurse Ratchet. And I'll take some swings, too. I may not have all of 'em connect on you two, but I'll try my damnest. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif And if that fails, well...
http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/9mm.gif
Ya always gotta have a backup plan. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

RogueExec
20 December 2000, 13:41
My Mom is a 30-year career nurse and weighs in at 115 and 5'4" tall. Nevertheless, having been to my share of hospitals, I stand by my Night Nurse entry. LOL

http://www.stopstart.fsnet.co.uk/smilie/bigun2.gif

------------------
"I'd like some wine for my men, some hay for my horses, and some mud for my turtle."

Marauder
20 December 2000, 14:34
I'll have to admit, there are some out there. And it looks like the trend isn't gonna stop. There are a couple of "big-boned" girls in my class too. <shiver> And it baffles me how they can stay that chubby once they hit the hosptial. Shit, so far I've done a few training days on wards, and I haven't had a chance to stop to catch a breath, let alone lunch or a coffee. And none of the moving is done at a walk, either. Damn whiny old people. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif I guess there is a biological switch that turns to "Full Time Bitch Mode" when the odometer clicks over on 45.
Rogue, tell your Mom that I am in awe. My mom has 25 years in, and she's looking for an admin job (Nursing Director) so that she isn't crippled by the time she retires. All that lifting fat people adds up. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/mad.gif

ANACONDA
20 December 2000, 19:26
MARAUDER,
I WASNT BASHING NURSES. I WAS MERELY HIGHLIGHTING THEIR SKILL IN:
MAKING THE PATIENT WITHOUT DISTURBING THE BED.........SOMETHING LIKE THAT.

http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

RogueExec
20 December 2000, 22:32
Originally posted by Marauder:

Rogue, tell your Mom that I am in awe. My mom has 25 years in, and she's looking for an admin job (Nursing Director) so that she isn't crippled by the time she retires. All that lifting fat people adds up. http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/mad.gif

Well bro, I'll tell ya, Moms is the Clinical Educator (read "STAFF PUKE") now, but she is still called on to assist almost all day, every day (someone doesn't show, blah, blah). Admin doesn't seem to cut the workload much!



------------------
"I'd like some wine for my men, some hay for my horses, and some mud for my turtle."