AMU to Law School

[Dumpsterchair]

I am looking for some insight and advice from people who have graduated from online schools and applied to “brick and mortar” grad schools. I will finish my bachelors in June with AMU (International Relations) and I am looking at applying to some law schools in the fall. Does anyone here have any experience with applying to grad schools with an undergraduate from AMU or other online universities?

I emailed Gonzaga University (tuition: $28,000/year :eek: ) and they told me they have a “holistic” :rolleyes: approach to assessing candidates and they encouraged me to apply, but this sounds like a pat answer. I have a good GPA (3.96, haven't taken LSAT yet) but I am not sure how well that would be received by a traditional institution. I am looking for some candor concerning how realistic it would be to get accepted to a decent law school (not Harvard or Yale, but not Joe’s College of Law either) with an undergraduate degree from AMU (assuming I could score well on the LSAT). Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

[Dark Helmet]

Take the GMAT and go to a good B-School instead.

[Dumpsterchair]

Some law schools offer a 4 year JD/MBA track that has piqued my interest.

What would you consider a good B-school?

[USAFINTEL]

I have a mix of online and in-residence credits and degrees and have not had any problems with the 8 schools I have gone to (Norwich University, Ohio State, CCAF, Thomas Edison (online), Devry (Online and Campus), Keller Grad School (Online), AMU (Online), and George Washington University (Satellite Course).

I have taken undergrad and graduate courses at AMU and have had no problems transferring the credits elsewhere. I was able to knock out my elective courses that way for my MBA.

What's considered to be a good Law or Business school is going to depend on where do you want to live, what are your GMAT and LSAT scores, undergraduate degree, GPA, etc. and what kind of program do you want and of course costs. Regardless of where your undergraduate degree came from your GPA and LSAT scores are going to be a big factor at any Law School and for Business school your GMAT scores and your undergraduate background in business.

Each school has their own merits. If you were to choose a B School what do you want to specialize in? Marketing, Accounting, Management, MIS, etc because some schools have better programs in these areas in other.

A good resource is http://www.businessweek.com/bschools/

Plus what do you intend to do with either degree? That’s also a factor.

[The Corporate Guy]

What would you consider a good B-school?

Depends on your goals. If you just want self-improvement, to polish up the resume a bit, learn some new skills, etc. then I would set the minimum standards as an AACSB accredited B-school program. Just be honest with yourself as a run of the mill MBA is not going to be terribly impressive.

If you want to be treated like an "MBA"...the kind that companies heavily recruit for well-paying and competitive jobs, then I would focus on "top twenty" type schools (Kellogg, Wharton, Standford, Columbia, MIT, Duke, Darden, Tuck, Chicago, Stern, etc.) and a few selective second tier schools like Simon/Rochester, Georgetown, etc.)

[The Corporate Guy]

I have a good GPA (3.96, haven't taken LSAT yet) but I am not sure how well that would be received by a traditional institution. I am looking for some candor concerning how realistic it would be to get accepted to a decent law school (not Harvard or Yale, but not Joe’s College of Law either) with an undergraduate degree from AMU (assuming I could score well on the LSAT). Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

You will not have an answer unitl you take the LSAT and see how you score. If you smoke the LSAT and can explain a 3.96 GPA at AMU while in the service you can probably get into some excellent schools. Do mediocre on the LSAT and stock of your AMU degree will also decline.

[The Corporate Guy]

double tap

[Dumpsterchair]

Great points all. It looks like my LSAT score will have to justify my GPA at AMU. I will be taking it in June. I am shooting for some top 50 law schools and it looks like I will need to cut at least a 160. I have done some studying for it and looked at some practice tests...wow. It's a weird test. Check this out.

19) No one in the French department to which Professor
Alban belongs is allowed to teach more than one
introductory level class in any one term. Moreover, the
only language classes being taught next term are
advanced ones. So it is untrue that both of the French
classes Professor Alban will be teaching next term will
be introductory level classes.

The pattern of reasoning displayed in the argument
above is most closely paralleled by that in which one of
the following arguments?

(A) The Morrison Building will be fully occupied by
May and since if a building is occupied by May
the new tax rates apply to it, the Morrison
Building will be taxed according to the new
rates.

(B) The revised tax code does not apply at all to
buildings built before 1900, and only the first
section of the revised code applies to buildings
built between 1900 and 1920, so the revised
code does not apply to the Norton Building,
since it was built in 1873.

(C) All property on Overton Road will be
reassessed for tax purposes by the end of the
year and the Elnor Company headquarters is
on Overton Road, so Elnor’s property taxes
will be higher next year.

(D) New buildings that include public space are
exempt from city taxes for two years and all new
buildings in the city’s Alton district are exempt
for five years, so the building with the large
public space that was recently completed in
Alton will not be subject to city taxes next year.

(E) Since according to recent statute, a building that
is exempt from property taxes is charged for
city water at a special rate, and hospitals are
exempt from property taxes, Founder’s
Hospital will be charged for city water at the
special rate.

[whatman]

D....?

[Remington Raider]

[QUOTE=Dumpsterchair]
19)

a) No one in the French department to which Professor
Alban belongs is allowed to teach more than one
introductory level class in any one term. (Statement 1)

b) Moreover, the only language classes being taught next term are
advanced ones. (Statement 2)

So it is untrue that both of the French
classes Professor Alban will be teaching next term will
be introductory level classes.

B cements the conclusion, rendering A superfuous information.

The pattern of reasoning displayed in the argument
above is most closely paralleled by that in which one of
the following arguments?

My guess is B.

(B)

1. The revised tax code does not apply at all to
buildings built before 1900

2. and only the first section of the revised code applies to buildings
built between 1900 and 1920

3. so the revised code does not apply to the Norton Building,
since it was built in 1873.

1 cements the final conclusion and renders 2 superfulous.

Keep in mind you are being timed, so practice, practice, practice. I am sure AL or RL or SheJAG will be along to tell me I am wrong.

Your "score" really doesn't mean dick, as they change the scoring method every couple of years. Keep in mind on the day you take your LSAT, all over the United States and its territories people are taking the same test. What percentile you are in THAT group will have more effect on your admission than your undergrad school, GPA, etc. When I took the LSAT the word on the street was one in four of everyone all over the world who took the test that day would be accepted by any law school.

BUT, be careful what you wish for.

And what was the reasoning behind picking D?

[Dumpsterchair]

The answer, according to this practice test, is D.

http://lsac.org/pdfs/test.pdf

:confused: Yeah...um...I'm gonna have to pay a tutor at this rate.

[Remington Raider]

Geez, I guess I will have to turn in my ticket. Needless to say, I was disappointed there was no analysis to the answers for each question, that is, the reasoning by which they arrived at the correct answer. If you use a study guide, use one that gives you that feature. I don't envy you.:p

[KS11]

Some law schools offer a 4 year JD/MBA track that has piqued my interest.

What would you consider a good B-school?

University of Texas has the 4 year MBA+JD program. It's fairly hard to get into, but the B-School and Law School are both ranked in the top 20 nationally. (At least they were last time I checked.) Plus, the women are hot as hell...

[Kurt V]

So far all you have received is a bunch of wild ass guesses about your chances from people who have never attended law school. Top tier law schools are mother fucker to get into now. Used to be you have a 3.5 gpa and score in the 80% percentile and you could get into almost any law school except maybe the top ten. Now that would maybe get you in to a third tier school.

Have a GPA over 3.8 and score high enough on your LSAT and none of the schools will give a fuck where you went as long as it is a recognized college.

The LSAT is everything.

Almost every law school has a class profile of the entering class on their web site. Check out the ones you are interested in going to and see what your chances are.

Also, keep in mind that the LSAT, unlike the SAT or ACT doesn't take your highest score if you decide to take the LSAT multiple times. They take an aggregate score.

[The PFC]

Dumpster,
I'm in the same position as you, AMU majoring in International Relations looking at Law School when I get out. I asked a girl I know who's father is on the selection committee for a mid-tier law school, and who also was one of my brother's prof's, what the effect an AMU degree would have. Specifically whether the committee would think of it as a real degree or not, and the response I got was that I was good to go. Whether that is across the board or just for that school I couldn't tell you.

[RAT]

Geez, I guess I will have to turn in my ticket. Needless to say, I was disappointed there was no analysis to the answers for each question, that is, the reasoning by which they arrived at the correct answer. If you use a study guide, use one that gives you that feature. I don't envy you.:p

HAHAHA I can tell you are no lawyer...

Remember in law there is no right and wrong... A lot of grey....Sort of like the Navy. :D

RO!!!

[Remington Raider]

HAHAHA I can tell you are no lawyer...

Remember in law there is no right and wrong... A lot of grey....Sort of like the Navy. :D

RO!!!

ACTUALLY, you and the peace lovin' prosecutor as assuming facts not in evidence. 91st percentile. Shoulda went to Michigan. I only applied to one school, and I was accepted.

[The Corporate Guy]

So far all you have received is a bunch of wild ass guesses about your chances from people who have never attended law school.

Of course, nobody is qualified to offer a researched or informed opinion (vice WAG) about applying to law school unless they attended law school. :rolleyes:

[RAT]

ACTUALLY, you and the peace lovin' prosecutor as assuming facts not in evidence. 91st percentile. Shoulda went to Michigan. I only applied to one school, and I was accepted.


HAHAHAhha Peace Lovin' :p

Also, Congrat's on your acceptance.

RO!!!

[Silverbullet]

Originally Posted by Kurt V
So far all you have received is a bunch of wild ass guesses about your chances from people who have never attended law school.

I decide what is a wild guess, not you. This thread was going along well without you adding a snide statement.

You could have very easily submitted your advice without this.

Check your attitude or don't post in this area.

[CB]

From one who was a former Army Combat Engineer (Sergeant) and later Infantry (Special Forces/Ranger, 1st Lieutenant) and then got a college degree, went on to law school, and had a second-half Army career as a Judge Advocate: Go for it.

The LSAT is critical.
Take the practice tests here:
http://www.lsac.org/
and buy one of the big study guides (Barron's, etc.).

My law school? Campbell University, North Carolina. Well respected, fully ABA approved, the only law school in the history of the state to have 100% first time pass the bar examination a few years ago.

http://law.campbell.edu/

On a regular basis, scores above N.C. State and Duke on passage of the bar exam.

More importantly from the perspective of a servicemember, it is a conservative school (affiliated with the Southern Baptist Convention) that respects servicemembers and is reasonable when reviewing transcripts for "degree of difficulty" factors such as service schols, assignments, and deployments.

Just a suggestion, one you might want to investigate.