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andrew51
13 March 2001, 15:05
hi, i was wondering if cops are allowed to have a bullet in the chamber of their gun when they pull people over, etc. also i is it really true that people are allowed to own assault rifles as long as theyre not fully auto? if so, thats scary.
BULLETS!? You mean we are supposed to get bullets, too? Geez, I knew something was missing!
Ski
Tracy
13 March 2001, 16:17
ROTFLMFAO...
Deputy Fife, a police officer of some note, always carried his bullet in a shirt pocket.
fish78
13 March 2001, 17:43
Andrew, your profile stated a location of New Jersey. Is that New Jersey USA? If so I refer you to the Second Article of Amendment to the Constitution of the United States of America.
fish
RogueExec
13 March 2001, 18:54
LMAO, Tracy!!! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif
Andrew, in many jurisdictions, not only are the cops fully locked and loaded while carrying, but many also draw and have the weapon in hand behind the rear leg when approaching the vehicle.
P.S. When it gets REALLY hairy, they pull out the Wrist Rocket with the hollow-point marble.
Damn! I always thought those things were squirt guns on your legs.
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Semper Fi
RogueExec
13 March 2001, 22:44
Nah, the squirt gun is BETWEEN the legs.
grrlcop74
13 March 2001, 23:26
Originally posted by RogueExec:
Nah, the squirt gun is BETWEEN the legs.
Too bad it's only a snubnose in many cases.
Kristen
<evil grin>
Erick
14 March 2001, 01:34
Fish-
It would seem that the rumors are true. New Jersey did sucede from the majority of the rest of the Union.
Andrew-
Please return to troll land.
DFC5343
14 March 2001, 05:00
I thought you kept that "bullet" under your tongue...see what I know????
Yup... Kristen's a redhead indeed...
HmtPD2
14 March 2001, 14:46
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HmtPD2
14 March 2001, 14:54
Very interesting question by an obviously out of touch individual. Appareantly you have never been shot at.
I know officers that do traffic stops with their MP-5's slung at times.
I work the Gang/Drug team for my Dept. I commonly appraoch vehicles with my gun in my hand. If the stop is the slightest bit "odd" I will approach with my weapon readily visible to the occupants. Every once in a while someone will complain, but Oh well....I'm not saying walk up and shove a gun in their face, but the added second it takes to draw could be it. Once you do a quick size up of the occupants you can holster it. Many times the occupants don't even know. You should consider doing a ride along with a dept.
I don't remember if I chamber a round or not.......Ummmmmmmm........Wait, I think ALL cops do! You must be thinking about the military where they usually cannot chamber rounds unless needed.
It also looks as if you are another victim the media has scared with the word "assault rifle."
andrew51
14 March 2001, 16:24
no i have not been "scared" of assault rifles by the media. i know what an assault rifle is but i didnt know that car 15s and the long line of AKs were allowed to be owned by citizens. i mean i know weaapons such as tech 9s and weapons like that were alowed but it was kind of strange to also here about weapons that are used by the military. and about the bullet in the chamber question, what is so funny? im not a cop or a member of the military so how should i know? i do know there are alot of rules and regulations for cops and military personel and i just wanted to know if that was one of them.
Originally posted by grrlcop74:
Too bad it's only a snubnose in many cases.
Kristen
<evil grin>
DAAAAAAAMN!!! ROTFLMFAO!!!! Definitely a redhead!
Hey Kristen, go check out the Humor section. I posted something there for ya! http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/wink.gif
dragonrain
14 March 2001, 18:23
Andrew51, little history lesson my man. The AR 15 was developed as a varmit rifle and was later picked up by the Air Force, then SEALS, and after the forward bolt assist was added,the rest of the mil. And AK's are so wide spread around the world you would not even believe it. Remember The fact that these guns are privatly owned is not scary, There is no more or less potential for danger in any weapon, just the user.
And remember that most of the guy's(and girl) on this thread put it on the line to keep you and me safe. So of course there gonna give ya a hard time for the bullet thing. But hey man now you know.
dr
andrew51
14 March 2001, 19:02
im sorry if i insulted anyone, that was not my intention. i just wanted to know. i asked around but nobody gave me a clear answere so i thought to ask here
ANACONDA
14 March 2001, 19:53
ITS NOT THE SIZE OF THE BARREL THAT COUNTS.
ITS THE MUZZLE-VELOCITY !
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dragonrain
14 March 2001, 22:18
Please no MV discussion, I read the last thread and my head exploded ( IM better now).
dr
Snubnose?
I am not too positive what they are growing down in your neck of the woods, but I think you should be looking elsewhere. Kristen, I still have the strawberries and whipcream if you remember who this is.
RogueExec
14 March 2001, 23:24
Originally posted by grrlcop74:
Too bad it's only a snubnose in many cases.
Kristen
<evil grin>
But it's got the girth of a tomato soup can.
Rogue...be careful here...I'm sure the next thing she'll want to know if that's the 8oz or the 14oz can.
jnc36rcpd
16 March 2001, 03:26
Andrew51, police officers carry pistols with rounds chambered. Charging weapons immediately before going into a hot LZ is best left to movie cops. As much as I love the movies THE FUGITIVE and U.S. MARSHALS, my blood pressure rises whenever I see the DUSM's racking the slides immediately before a takedown in the films.
Today's weapons will not fire without the trigger being pulled. The mechanical safety of the weapon lies in either in the length/weight of the trigger pull or in a manual safety which is off-safed immediately prior to firing.
Racking a pistol's slide is very dramatic in the movies. It can get you killed in real life. A pistol is an immediate reaction weapon. If you knew you would be in a firefight, you'd probably opt for a shotgun or rifle. You opt for a pistol when the shooting is unexpected or, for some reason, a long gun is impractical (e.g.: extremely close quarters). Police log guns are usually not carried in the cruiser with a round chambered; once deployed, the weapon should be charged.
As my colleague from the left coast mentions, seconds--in fact, microseconds--count in a deadl force encounter. The time it would take an officer to bring both hands together, rack the pistol's slide, bring the weapon to bear, determine that this is actually a shoot-target, point or look for front sight, and fire would likely just add to that list of names chistled on the wall at Judiciary Square each Police Memorial Day.
Reference assault rifles---they're often no more powerful or dangerous in the hands of a bad guy than the shotgun that President Clinton used to shoot waterfowl. Many legislatures ban them because they look evil or scary (usually because they are black, which might be cause for some discussion in itself).
There are a lot of things the American public and its elected officials should do to reduce gun violence. Banning "assault weapons" (whatever they are defined as) is not one of the effective ones.
Be safe.
justagrunt
16 March 2001, 13:28
"It's fat like a can of Corn!"
RogueExec
16 March 2001, 14:39
Originally posted by bd:
Rogue...be careful here...I'm sure the next thing she'll want to know if that's the 8oz or the 14oz can.
Excellent advice, oh wise one... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/biggrin.gif
Mine would be classified as the Blue Light Special from the Red Light District.
RogueExec
4 May 2001, 12:58
Originally posted by andrew51:
hi, i was wondering if cops are allowed to have a bullet in the chamber of their gun when they pull people over
In all the BS, we never really answered your questions, sonny. YES.
The only ones who can't have rounds chambered in their weapons are the Marines who guard our embassies in countries that hate Western culture.
[This message has been edited by RogueExec (edited 05-04-2001).]
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