Stop Loss --New Movie

[ParrotHead]

I saw this trailer today for a new movie being put out by MTV films. It stirred some different emotions. I'll let you see for yourself and see what emotions it stirs for you. Check it out.

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[brcannon]

Mtv Movies.... thats tells me something right there.

[Marvin Blank]

I saw this trailer last week in a theater in Fayetteville packed with Joe. Didn't go over so well, as you can guess.

I'm someone who can suspend belief on certain things, and take a movie for what it's worth, so I'll probably see it. I watched "In the Valley of Elah" this weekend, and even though everyone in the military goes crazy after a deployment according to them (and the VERY end of the movie pissed me off), it did have some good qualities (good acting, ect.)

A couple things that bothered me about this preview, though, more than most military movies with mistakes here and there.
1.) The entire premise of the movie is bullshit. Informed of stop loss on THE DAY OF YOUR ETS by a Pac Clerk while you outprocess? Ok.
2.) Taking the ACTUAL premise of stop loss - I don't know about you guys, but it was made VERY clear to me that my 5 year enlistment was actually a 8 year commitment. Also, I'm pretty sure I volunteered for this shit. You know, in a time of war? Who would have thought that the country might need me for all eight years? If it happens, I just might sue!!!!
3.) The one comment the wife makes...."The way I see it, he's married to the Army. I can't go another year without him." Some young high and tight from the Eighty Dizzle sitting behind me muttered "I'll see you at It'z when he leaves, whore!!!" Enough said.
Still, the preview's well done. So it's got that goin for it. Which is nice.

[CV]

Pure political bullshit.

I looked at my contract and the 4-years active + 4-years inactive reserves is in BIG-ASS BOLD PRINT.

[KiloNiner]

I would almost condsider seeing this movie if

A) I didn't have to pay for it
B) I wouldn't cause harm to anyone for how pissed it would make me.

However, I don't see either one of those two things happening..

I don't know if the Army has any acronyms for it or not, but I know in the Marines, USMC could also stand for "U Signed the Mothafuckin' Contract!" and sure enough, we all did. When I asked my recruiter about the 4 years of inactive reserve time, he said "Don't worry about that. You'd only get called back if there was like WWIII or something.." of course this was pre-OIF. Needless to say I was recalled a little under 2 years after I EAS'd. Was I happy about it? Not particularly. Did I know I still had obligated service? Bet your ass I did.

I hope they address this is the film. Anyone know what the regs are keeping people past their ECC involuntarily? Can they do that?

[gryan1966]

NAVY:
Never
Again
Volunteer
Yourself

[redhawk]

They're promoting this constantly on my campus. :rolleyes:

[CombatMedic1981]

They're promoting this constantly on my campus. :rolleyes:
Oh can't wait till thay show it at my school.

[Marvin Blank]

U.S.ARMY - Uncle Sam Ain't Released Me Yet

[PocketKings]

I was told the 4 year IRR time was 'In case of WWIII' and that I'd never be called back in. I wouldn't call this lying, but it was close to misrepresentation. I was stop lossed 3 days from terminal leave (40 days from ETS). I had already cleared my unit, division, and post. I had no job and no weapon.

Not defending the movie, I have no plans to see it. Just wanted to add to the discussion.

[Wes]

I had a guy that was called out of the IRR in the same group as me. His report date was his 8yr ETS date. He still showed up and completed the tour. (Though he did do quite a lot of bitching throughout, but I can't blame him.)
I'll go see the movie just because my friends are going to ask me on a daily basis if I have seen it yet.

[okami1]

YMRA SU

Yes My Retarded Ass Signed Up.

The Marines at Sill told me that one, because Army dogs are ass-backwards. :D

About the movie, Ryan Phillipe and MTV? No thanks. This one's about profit.

[C-M-R]

I'll go see the movie just because my friends are going to ask me on a daily basis if I have seen it yet.

That's not a good reason to see a dipshit movie. If they ask you about this dumb flick, you just ask them how many times they've been to 27 Dresses. :p

[Balls]

I knew a lot of guys who got extended for another deployment. Some of them were probably upset at first but you can bet your ass none of them tried to run away or fight it. And when we got downrange, they knew the deal, gave 100 percent, and I'm sure that if they had their choice today, they'd still have gone.

Here's my question, and I want all kinds of feedback on this:

-Why is America so full of pussies that the first(?) movie to come out about Iraq is basically anti-war and about a guy fighting AGAINST the army??????

-Why can't somebody make a fucking inspirational movie about guys that watch each other's backs, support and love their country, and are willing to do everything to support the cause!!! And make the violence and action so real that it makes people think about what the fuck is really going on!!!!!

-Maybe then people would start putting American flags back in their front yards and take those stupid fucking bumper stickers off!!!!

[eltrane]

I get pissed at stupid shit like this, but then I remember only reason movies are made is to make money.

[BertF]

Well, they have lost their shirts the past few years on OIF movies. The Liberals think the American public wants to see this crap and they have got killed in their wallets. of course, they blame the war for being unpopular, not realizing that it is the plot, story line and directing that is unpopular.

Stop-loss is terrible and disruptive to one who is planning a new civilian life, but it is a volunteer military and nobody put a gun to your head and made you join.

[SGTROCK]

Mtv Movies.... thats tells me something right there.It tells me that you got to much time on your hands!!:D

Rock

[Greenhat]

-Why can't somebody make a fucking inspirational movie about guys that watch each other's backs, support and love their country, and are willing to do everything to support the cause!!! And make the violence and action so real that it makes people think about what the fuck is really going on!!!!!


Write a letter to Clint Eastwood suggesting it. If anyone would make it, I'd think it would be him. And if it makes a boatload of money, then maybe Hollywood mainstream would figure out that these idiotic movies like "Stop Loss", "Jarhead", etc. aren't what that American people want to see.

[Finger]

Might be my old retarded mind or lack of one, but sometimes I think it feels like 1969 again. Geez! :confused:

[KidA]

There was a movie I saw a preview for while watching another movie and it was about Iraq, and I seem to recall it being about medics, and I seem to recall it would it would have been good, but I can't remember the title. Anyone have any ideas?

It's not the Lions for Lambs or Redacted or the Kingdom, in fact I think it went straight to video.

[ironpaw]

Well, Bruce Willis is supposed to be doing a new movie based on Michael Yon's experiences with Deuce Four....

If it eventuates, that would be a decent OIF movie.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_Yon

There was a movie I saw a preview for while watching another movie and it was about Iraq, and I seem to recall it being about medics, and I seem to recall it would it would have been good, but I can't remember the title. Anyone have any ideas?

Home of the BRave, maybe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_of_the_Brave_%282006_film%29

[Snake]

Just give me more episodes of The Unit. The Colonel/T-1000 hasn't slept with SgtMaj Jonas/President Palmer yet.

[Sharky]

-Why can't somebody make a fucking inspirational movie about guys that watch each other's backs, support and love their country, and are willing to do everything to support the cause!!! And make the violence and action so real that it makes people think about what the fuck is really going on!!!!!




They did. It's called "BlackHawk Down".

[cb88]

One of my best friends had just put in his retirement package...he was due to retire this month. He was just stop lossed and leaves for Iraq in June for 18 months.

[KidA]

Home of the BRave, maybe?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Home_of_the_Brave_%282006_film%29

May have been it. Anyone seen it?

Massive flop at the box office regardless, so it's likely the Am Public is being fed the movies (anti-war) that they want to see because the aren't interested in the ones that we'd like them to see.

[C-M-R]

They did. It's called "BlackHawk Down".

Good answer!

[grappler]

May have been it. Anyone seen it?

Massive flop at the box office regardless, so it's likely the Am Public is being fed the movies (anti-war) that they want to see because the aren't interested in the ones that we'd like them to see.
Seriously doubt it was Home of the Brave...(This is the movie that had 50 Cent sporting a beard in in his Class A uniform for the movie poster)

The movie got boo's and did nothing it was intended to do. Here's one critics thoughts on the movie.

"...features some of the worst dialogue to be found in any non-horror film this year."

The Directors/Producers of Blackhawk Down did it right. I'm still keeping my fingers crossed for Peter Berg's movie on Operation Redwing.

[Hot Mess]

They did. It's called "BlackHawk Down".


EERRRRPPPPPP! Beat me to it.

You'll have to forgive Balls, he was a jar head. Which I guess still makes him a Marine:D

[PocketKings]

There was actually an NPR story on how anti-Iraq movies are all tanking and the ones in the chute are not looking too promising. They surmised that Iraq war movies don't do well because the public is worn out from the war. Yet they wondered why 'pro-war' movies like BHD, We Were Soldiers, Private Ryan, and even 'The Kingdom' etc. often did well in theatres and in ratings when played in rerun. They couldn't get it through their LSD addled brain that maybe the public would like a move that told the truth and not the 1% abberations.

I don't think we'll see anything accurate for a while. That's why I come here.

[JumpCut]

I don't normally pimp my works on sites like this, but we just wrapped a pro-troops film that's starting to get big buzz on the internet. Michelle Malkin covered it, and it has been mentioned on Blackfive and other blogs.

God and Country (http://www.godandcountry.tv)

I spent a decade in Hollywood and left in disgust. This film is my rebuttal, and my life savings are in it.

Any active duty troops reading this, hit me with an email and we'll send you a DVD. We've sent quite a few to hot and sandy places, with our compliments.

We've been invited to a couple of big news shows that everyone would recognize, but are holding off until distribution is in place.

Mods: Sorry if this is against the TOS. Delete as you see fit.

[Marvin Blank]

Jump Cut - I just looked at your website, and it kind of caught me off guard.
A few years ago, as a UGA Frat boy about to graduate, I kind of caught everyone in my life off guard and decided to enlist for the 18x contract. I signed up as DEP, so I was hanging around Athens for about 5 months before I shipped. One day, I found out that a Sig Ep had been killed in Iraq, and his memorial service would be held that day in the Chapel. Obviously, there aren't very many of us in that world who end up in the military, so I felt somewhat obligated to go.
It turned out to be one of the most motivating things I could ever do. I sat there and listened as his Dad read his commander's letter describing his last minutes alive, where I recall his being shot while trying to drag one of his wonded brothers back behind cover. To listen to that right before I left reaffirmed everything I believed in why I was doing what I was doing, and also brought home just how serious a commitment it was. I never knew the kid, and in all honesty couldn't remember his name, but I think about that service evry now and then. Imagine my shock when I realized that that was who your film was about.
Thanks for making it, and as soon as payday hits (not that I'm complaining, but I forgot how expensive a girlfriend can be....I need to go back on the Camp Mackall savings plan), I'll be ordering one.

Anyways, sorry for the hijack - And I think it's a shame that We Were Soldiers didn't get the recognition it deserves as one of the better war films ever made. I think it was because it was soon after the cheesy abortion that was The Patriot, and people assumed it was more of the same.

[martyusa]

YMRA SU



This one's about profit.

It's always about profit my brother. Very few people in Hollywood will do anything for the good cause of humanity. And when they do, the rest of the industry shuns them. So again a catch 22....

A few other good ones....

Saving Private Ryan
The Patriot

And what would a military library be without Apocalypse Now and Platoon.... ;)

[KidA]

I think Platoon affected people differently based on what age they were when they saw it. When I saw it it made me WANT to join the Army, but I was a young teen when I did. I understand how some of the oldies see it as an anti-war flick.

As far as the Patriot, I liked it, but the earlier Pacino version was much much better IMO: Revolution. It got panned, but I liked it better than the Patriot.

[JumpCut]

Marvin-

We shot interviews and footage at the Sig Ep house in Athens. Brad's death affected thousands there and really hammered home the importance of victory.

In a very weird twist, I learned that Brad was my direct cousin, AFTER the film wrapped. I didn't know Brad or his family beforehand, but as we finished up the project, I saw an unusual name on his family tree that matched a name from my family line. Turns out it was the same person. Bizarre.

And marty..you're absolutely right on both points. It's all about money in Hollywood, and if you go against the message, you're an outcast. I've gotten plenty of hate mail and most of it's from the greater LA area.

[JumpCut]

Marvin- If you're AD, email me your addy and I'll send you a DVD.

One of my tech advisers is a USA 0-6 in the Chaplain Corps at Bragg.

[Baildog]

Somehow, I suspect this (http://www.socnetcentral.com/vb/showthread.php?t=76479) will be a better war movie than anything from MTV Films (even though I hate Ben Stiller).

There is a gigantic banner for "Stop Loss" on the side of the Verizon Center in DC, where the Caps play. I was walking to the game on Sunday and saw it and my first thought was, "any movie with a name like that can't be good."

[Balls]

They did. It's called "BlackHawk Down".


Thats what I had in mind. That movie was a huge hit and it inspired a lot of the public. So why not make similar movies?

[Balls]

EERRRRPPPPPP! Beat me to it.

You'll have to forgive Balls, he was a jar head. Which I guess still makes him a Marine:D


Not everybody can be a HSLD ranger....HOOAH! :D

[bikewrench8541]

edit; Nevermind, FAIL at SA. Post #5 beat me

[Tyr]

I saw the movie last night. We had preview passes from a local station. I thought it was an entertaining movie but definately made by liberals. I don't think it will piss off as many as you think but I would be interested in hearing from the BTDT's about some of the accuracies or lack there of about the whole process relating to stop loss. I won't go into any detail about the movie but I thought it was worth seeing.

Tyr

[Bravo Five Romeo]

Home of the BRave, maybe?
nope.
Piece of absolute uninformed crap.
It aspires to be a modern version of "The Best Years of Our Lives" about soldiers readjusting to civilian life, while flashing back to the horrors of war... but it comes off as though it was written and directed by a couple of high school kids who did absolutely no research and have no idea what it is soldiers actually do. It's just plain bad.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

*edit* double post... frigging server.

[Walken1]

Not that it makes a difference, but Phillipe wasn't as anti-war as you might think. A significant scene of the flick was filmed here at a little texas dancehall; Club 21 between Austin and San Antonio.
My buddy is the band leader in that scene, and they hung out everyday for lunch at the catering line. Said Phillipe was pretty pro-military.
I haven't seen the movie, but I didn't get the impression that it was anti-war as much as it was meant to spotlight the frustrations of extended and multiple deployments...almost like a tribute. (Then again, I haven't seen it)

On a side note....There is a fight scene in the club, and the director instructed the band to stop playing when the fight starts. My buddy informed the director that it would be taboo for a band to stop playing in a Texas dancehall just because of a fight...haha. I wonder if they took his input?