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Gsniper
7 January 2009, 09:05
Spent a week in Dec at the Ogara SSI advanced driver course. Here's a day by day of what went down.

Day 1
About two hours of classroom time on asphalt type driving. How to steer, brake, take high speed turns and a brief block on how the suspension systems in the vehicle handles weight transfer issues and steering on road conditions.

Hit the road course at Virginia International Raceway for the remainder of the day for steering, braking, cornering drills and a short stint on the skid pad. Spent about 5 hours driving in the Crown Victorias from very low speed stuff to wide open on the road course. Good instruction on how to handle the vehicle in diffirent situations.

Day 2
Straight to the track in the Crown Vics. Block of instruction on high speed backing, escaping ambushes, j-turns, y-turns and bootlegs. One last session of running wide open on the road course.

Switched over to the Tahoes and did all the same drills in the SUV type vehicle to illustrate the handling/braking diffirence with the larger, taller vehicles.

Had a block on instruction on PIT maneuvers, then got in what they lovingly call the "junker" fleet. (older cars that are beat up, but run fine), and spent a good amount of time PIT'ing each other on the track. Then we did 4 car high speed runs in the junkers with some drills the instructors threw in that pretty much guaranteed some car to car contact like driving fast in super heavy traffic.

Day 3
Back in the classroom for a short block on off-road driving. Traction vs speed issues, 4wd driving, etc. Then it was off to the 3 mile dirt rally course in the Nissan x-terras. It was badly muddy that day, so we couldn't really rip and run on the rally course due to traction issues, but had a ball slinging mud and learning how fast you could take turns in bad conditions.

Finished the day with block on offroad driving in the Tahoes. This included how to maneuver the vehicle in tight spaces and over specific type obstacles involving traction, gravity and clearance issues. Also a block on vehicle recovery, pulling, towing, winching, snatches, ets.

Day 4
Hit both of Ogara's vehicle obstacle courses that had obstacles that simulated real world situations. Lots of steep, muddy stuff that had to be carefully manipulated, plus many clearance type obstacles that showed you how to get over stuff without getting the vehicle high-centered.

Hit the offroad trails in the Tahoes (another badly muddy day). We went in two vehicles and did exercises on winching and pulling/snatching as we got stuck lots in the bad conditions. Definitely gave us a good understanding of what the vehicles could and coulnd't do.

Overall observations:
The course was well run. Both instructors knew their material, taught well and were very professional.

The facility was excellent. Both the road course and the offroad stuff were in great shape, well maintained and gave us most of the situations you could run into overseas.

The vehicle fleet was excellent. Had some cosmetic issues that will obviously result from untrained drivers doing wild-ass stuff, but mechanically they were in stellar shape.

Who Me ???
7 January 2009, 20:01
G-

Too bad you didn't have this class before you about put the "green hornet" over the side of a cliff:eek::biggrin:

Sharky
7 January 2009, 21:21
Did you spill your beer at any point? :biggrin:

Gsniper
8 January 2009, 06:55
As for the reference to me putting my car over a cliff, which is true, it was part of a training exercise and I recognized an opportunity for the group to have a short team building exercise. The objective was achieved, they came togather as a group and kept my car from sliding down the 75 foot bank.

Since it was my first trip to Ogara I just filled my camelback with vodka so I wouldn't look like a total lush.

Thanks to Who Me and Sharky for busting me out here in the wide-ass open. I don't have any good dirt on Who Me, but Sharky, if I was you, I'd walk softly or I'll break out some stories from back in the day.

CV
8 January 2009, 08:29
Oh, do tell!

Who Me ???
8 January 2009, 10:05
Team building excersise ?? I hope LPD43 will be along shortly to shed some light on that. I would be curious to know if that was his take :biggrin:

SOTB
8 January 2009, 10:10
Is Cal F still there?

Miguel
8 January 2009, 15:10
They have a great off road course, rally course and road course.

The Training Chief and the Director are absolutely not only TOP NOTCH, but they will find a way to facilitate any training you need to have. This includes local and State (NC & VA, as it is on the border) contacts that they have off site, in order for you and your unit to accomplish what your training needs may be.

I have been involved with the facility on two different occasions for a month at a time and have found their cooperation, facilitation and professionalism excellent.

I enjoy Training, Instructing and Learning there.

Gsniper
8 January 2009, 15:23
Cal F was not one of my instructors, but I was with a small course so they didn't bring in a large staff.

RAT
8 January 2009, 15:23
I enjoy Training, Instructing and Learning there.

I just had to ask if that involved fire pit training as well? :eek::tongue::biggrin:

RO!!!

Jong
8 January 2009, 16:34
They have a great off road course, rally course and road course.

The Training Chief and the Director are absolutely not only TOP NOTCH, but they will find a way to facilitate any training you need to have. This includes local and State (NC & VA, as it is on the border) contacts that they have off site, in order for you and your unit to accomplish what your training needs may be.

I have been involved with the facility on two different occasions for a month at a time and have found their cooperation, facilitation and professionalism excellent.

I enjoy Training, Instructing and Learning there.

I will second that. My company did our WPPS course there and thoroughly enjoyed it. They do really good work and are super good guys!!

Sharky
8 January 2009, 17:12
Thanks to Who Me and Sharky for busting me out here in the wide-ass open. I don't have any good dirt on Who Me, but Sharky, if I was you, I'd walk softly or I'll break out some stories from back in the day.


Bro.....I was laughing my ass off reading that AAR because I could just see you with the wheel in one hand and a beer in the other slingin mud! :eek: And anyone who knows you wouldnt put the Camelbak of vodka past you....hahahahahahah I miss the old days.


Oh......and no stories. I still haven't heard the end of the last stories you told a certain someone a couple months ago. :rolleyes:

Gsniper
8 January 2009, 17:45
Vince may was my co-driver and we didn't even spotlight any deer or pick up any roadkill. Wasn't like one of our normal 4x4 expeditions. Shoot me an email when you need my R and R facility again.

LPD43
8 January 2009, 22:49
I was in the car with GSniper on that cliff, as I suddenly said "WTF was that?" That was some funny shit. Now you can use those driving skills heading down the mountain to get a pack of smokes at the gas station.
How the Green Hornet still runs is beyond me:confused:

Sharky
8 January 2009, 23:45
Shoot me an email when you need my R and R facility again.




Vince May? Bwaaahahahahahahah!!!!!



Wilco brother. I should be wheels up in about a week. Was supposed to fly out wenesday but got delayed. Back in 4 months and I may hit you up to come back out again. Was a great time.

Silverbullet
9 January 2009, 03:02
They have a great off road course, rally course and road course.

The Training Chief and the Director are absolutely not only TOP NOTCH, but they will find a way to facilitate any training you need to have. This includes local and State (NC & VA, as it is on the border) contacts that they have off site, in order for you and your unit to accomplish what your training needs may be.

I have been involved with the facility on two different occasions for a month at a time and have found their cooperation, facilitation and professionalism excellent.

I enjoy Training, Instructing and Learning there.

The Director of Training is a friend.

They are presently looking to hire one instructor.

Petey
10 January 2009, 21:01
That is one course that I would do once a month, what a blast. However, after three days me and the rest of "Team Enlarged Prostate"( my crew was the oldest dudes in the course,) we're sore as shit. I felt like I had tried out for the Chicago Bears.

Ron Flowers
16 March 2009, 14:24
The Director of Training is a friend.

They are presently looking to hire one instructor.

Just did a week long NRA school there, and thought that all were a sqaured away, professional, and friendly bunch of guys. I like the facility a lot, and like what I hear about OG's future plans.