View Full Version : arabic keffije / shemag how to ?
Cleaner9x19
13 January 2001, 14:51
Been quite some time since I've been here the last time.
Can anyone point me to a website or tell me how an arabic keffije or shemag are being
wrapped around your head?. I've seen one in the movie "BRAVO TWO ZERO" (about a 8 men SAS patrol in IRAQ during Desert Storm) I would like to know hoe to do one / what's neccessary.
Thanks in advance
Cheers
Cleaner
JStarz
14 January 2001, 00:24
Actually, the traditional way to wear the keffieh, as worn by Arabic tribes is a very complicated pattern. Palestinians youth fighting the first Intifadah, and before that PFLP and PLO fighters in Lebanon came out wearing the same piece of garb but in a more "concealing" fashion, to hide their identity. As for british SAS and RM Commandos, I heard there is no regulation pattern, since the shemagh is supposed to be worn as a scarf. When wrapped around the head, it's mainly in order to protect the wearer from elements (ie sandstorm) or when riding vehicules (Pinkies, VLRA, WMIK). The main idea is to have the shemagh tightly wrapped and secured by elastic strap, in WWII usually an arabic headband, today rather the strap of some SWD goggles. If there is a regulation pattern, I've never heard of it. But I'm not BTDT, so take these infos for what they're worth: opinion of ciivy with great interest in SAS. Cheers.
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JStarz
14 January 2001, 00:24
Actually, the traditional way to wear the keffieh, as worn by Arabic tribes is a very complicated pattern. Palestinians youth fighting the first Intifadah, and before that PFLP and PLO fighters in Lebanon came out wearing the same piece of garb but in a more "concealing" fashion, to hide their identity. As for british SAS and RM Commandos, I heard there is no regulation pattern, since the shemagh is supposed to be worn as a scarf. When wrapped around the head, it's mainly in order to protect the wearer from elements (ie sandstorm) or when riding vehicules (Pinkies, VLRA, WMIK). The main idea is to have the shemagh tightly wrapped and secured by elastic strap, in WWII usually an arabic headband, today rather the strap of some SWD goggles. If there is a regulation pattern, I've never heard of it. But I'm not BTDT, so take these infos for what they're worth: opinion of civvy with great interest in SAS. Cheers.
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The more you sweat in peacetime, the less you bleed in combat
JStarz
14 January 2001, 00:29
Actually, the traditional way to wear the keffieh, as worn by Arabic tribes is a very complicated pattern. Palestinians youth fighting the first Intifadah, and before that PFLP and PLO fighters in Lebanon came out wearing the same piece of garb but in a more "concealing" fashion, to hide their identity. As for british SAS and RM Commandos, I heard there is no regulation pattern, since the shemagh is supposed to be worn as a scarf. When wrapped around the head, it's mainly in order to protect the wearer from elements (ie sandstorm) or when riding vehicules (Pinkies, VLRA, WMIK). The main idea is to have the shemagh tightly wrapped and secured by elastic strap, in WWII usually an arabic headband, today rather the strap of some SWD goggles. If there is a regulation pattern, I've never heard of it. But I'm not BTDT, so take these infos for what they're worth: opinion of civvy with great interest in SAS. Cheers.
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The more you sweat in peacetime, the less you bleed in combat
murphquake
14 January 2001, 03:35
they made a movie of Bravo Two Zero? who what where when why and how... good book
-bill
zeroalpha
14 January 2001, 07:02
These may help......
http://www.shemagh.dht.dk/
( Anyone speak German ?)
http://home6.inet.tele.dk/groen/shemagh/facecover.jpg
http://home6.inet.tele.dk/groen/shemagh/desert.jpg
Cleaner9x19
14 January 2001, 09:02
Thank you JStarz for your Info, being a civvy interested in the SAS myself.
Thanks for the link Zeroalpha, I'm from germany but the language is danish, but those pictures where helpfull to see different version of the shemag. The way the first one on the page is wearing the shemag is the same way Sean Bean in Bravo Two Zero wore it, so I only have to find out how to do it.
@murphquake
Check out amazon for the DVD (Region 2 coding) or the video cassette (VHS PAl). The Movie was made 1998 with Sean Bean (007-Goldeneye, Patriot Games) as Andy McNabb.
Cheers
Cleaner
JStarz
14 January 2001, 14:47
Sorry triple post (damn browser)
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austeyr556
14 January 2001, 23:42
Where can I see the movie Bravo Two Zero is it out in cinemas or on video?
murphquake
15 January 2001, 04:33
THANKS CLEANER... now i just need a reg 2 player (or a computer and DeCSS =-)
is it any good? the guy was the terrorist whos brother was killed in Patroit Games right, he was good... (suberb book, great movie, the new one, The Bear And The Dragon, was great too... a lot better than rainbow seis) Thanks again
-bill
murphquake
15 January 2001, 04:36
THANKS CLEANER... now i just need a reg 2 player (or a computer and DeCSS =-)
is it any good? the guy was the terrorist whos brother was killed in Patroit Games right, he was good... (suberb book, great movie, the new one, The Bear And The Dragon, was great too... a lot better than rainbow seis) Thanks again
-bill
RogueExec
15 January 2001, 12:55
Originally posted by JStarz:
Sorry triple post (damn browser)
Put your mouse on "Semi", not "Three-Round Burst"......that'll solve it.
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JStarz
15 January 2001, 17:47
Advice taken. LOL http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif
sierra129
16 January 2001, 14:15
A shamag/shamagh is the traditional arab head colth. A keffiya/kaffayeh is the little hats they wear under it. The traditional way of wearing a shamagh is to fold it into a triangle, put it on your head (the long side forward), then secure it with the elasitc band that you usually get when purchasing one. Some ppl. wear it wrapped around their heads. There are different ways of wearing it, there is no one accepted way. As long as it stays where it's needed, I think it's all fine.
abprar
17 January 2001, 10:28
You can get B20 video in Australia.I think from that platypus outdoors shop in melbourne.
I saw the movie in East timor it stars Sean Bean.I also saw 'The one that got away'whilst in UK.
The aussie army issues its own shamag called the Arafat Hat.It comes with a peak and is easy to wear.
Gunny Hicks
12 February 2001, 18:16
Originally posted by sierra129:
then secure it with the elasitc band that you usually get when purchasing it
Actually, the black braded chord was originally used to hobble their camels, by twisting it into a figure 8, and placing it on the their front feet. For them, dual prupose for the chord was 'Maphthe mohar'
On the southern parts of the Arabic penninsula, wrapping it around the head is more traditional. Amongst the Omanis and Yemenis, you can actually distinguish clan lineage based on how they wrap it around their heads. For us non-enlightened, this would be 'Qabbir mushqhalla'
The color pattern of the cloth is also significant in many regions.
Jim Six
31 March 2001, 21:36
This is all well and good, but the slow among us still need some more specific instructions on how to wrap the shemagh around the head and face, leaving only the eyes showing, things like that.
Sure, I narrow mine out and wear it, scarf-like, knotted jauntily around my neck, but suppose I want to use it another way?
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Allbest,
Jim
Gunny Hicks
1 April 2001, 02:42
Hey....do as some have us have had to do. Go live on the Saudi Pennensula for a while...say about forty months or so as I have done...and learn from the experts. With out a visual aid, words alone can not describe the techniques.
Jim Six
1 April 2001, 23:04
Sorry, must have stumbled in here by mistake, thinking it was a place for information exchange. Didn’t mean to upset the rough-and-tumbles.
I’m out.
Gunny Hicks
2 April 2001, 09:40
Don't go away mad, just understand, that without a visual aid, it's nearly impossible to describe.
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