Pledge of Allegiance for Texas?

[Ole crusty bastard]

My granddaughter just moved to Texas and called me about her first day in her new High School. Seems that they are required (?) to recite the pledge of allegiance of Texas and the United States.

She was upset because she didn't grasp that the United States is made up of 'States'. It took me a bit to get her public school (Florida) ideas in line with Texas thinking.

I have no problem with having the two pledges, I just had never heard of this before.

Texas Pledge of Allegiance: "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State under God, one and indivisible".


Thoughts?

[skyhawk691]

I think it's a Good Thing for kid's to be Proud of their State, and their Nation.
Today, only half of the 50 states have laws that require kids to recite the Pledge of Allegiance.

Texas Pledge of Allegiance (http://www.texaslre.org/downloads/lessons/Aug%2007%20THE%20NEW%20TEXAS%20PLEDGE.pdf)

[Metalchica]

Everything Texas does counters its antithesis, California. Rock on! :biggrin:

[C-M-R]

I just asked Zac about this because he goes to FL public school. First off they say the Pledge every morning. I asked him if he was a North Carolinian or an American. He says he's a North Carolinian living in America. That's a 13 year perspective. I am an American first and a Nebraskan second.

Maybe the South has a different way of looking at things than the rest of the country.

[BOFH]

Meh...I had never heard of a State Pledge of Allegiance until I moved to TX...and after that, I was a little unsure...after thinking about it for a while, though, I freakin' love the idea.

[SOTB]

I just checked with my daughter and she confirmed it as true....

[RAT]

Damn right it is true!!!

It is just law now.:biggrin:

RO!!!

[Kay]

Damn right it's true x 2. We say it at the beginning of every Republican
Women's meeting I go to; every Board of Realtor's meeting I go to; and
just about every other civic meeting I can think of that I've ever been to.
I am a Texan first, and American second (as you might have guessed).
Gov. Perry just recently added the words "one State under God" to it.
I was right proud of him for that.

[BOFH]

My wife confirmed she had to say the Pledge of Allegiance to Texas back in grade school. So yeah...Guess it's not a new thing either.

[Ranger Manges]

When offered Command of the Union Army........."I am a Virginian first,” was the answer given by Robert E Lee

[J12616]

Texas Pledge of Allegiance: "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State under God, one and indivisible."


On a few occasions, the hubby and I have been at the kids' school for some function or other, and the function has been opened with the recitation of the Texas pledge. The hubby, native Texan that he is, knows the pledge by heart. His wording is a little different, though:

"Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State under God, one and indivisible. AIRBORNE!"

:biggrin:

[eyezweat]

Texas Pledge of Allegiance: "Honor the Texas flag; I pledge allegiance to thee, Texas, one State under God, one and indivisible".


I like it. Hell... makes me consider moving.................again.

[EarthPig]

Don't mess with Texas!

RLTW
EP

[mdb23]

Damn right it's true x 2. We say it at the beginning of every Republican
Women's meeting I go to; every Board of Realtor's meeting I go to; and
just about every other civic meeting I can think of that I've ever been to.
I am a Texan first, and American second (as you might have guessed).
Gov. Perry just recently added the words "one State under God" to it.
I was right proud of him for that.

And here I thought "King of the Hill" was just an animated comedy.......

Apparently it's a documentary on life in Texas.:biggrin:

[Brianj]

I am a Texan first, and American second (as you might have guessed).

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

[ET1/ss nuke]

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

Ouch, that's gonna leave a mark.

[JMD69]

To the republic! :biggrin:

[KidA]

When offered Command of the Union Army........."I am a Virginian first,” was the answer given by Robert E Lee

I was just going to post the same thing.

I got rankled because it's Texas that the post is about and, well, fuck Texas, but I do wish we were more state-oriented than Nationally oriented.

[BOFH]

I was just going to post the same thing.

I got rankled because it's Texas that the post is about and, well, fuck Texas, but I do wish we were more state-oriented than Nationally oriented.


And why the hostility toward Texas? Just because we're better than everyone else, you all seem to hate us...I don't get it.

[Scratchy]

When offered Command of the Union Army........."I am a Virginian first,” was the answer given by Robert E Lee

How'd that war turn out for him? :biggrin:

[KidA]

And why the hostility toward Texas? Just because we're better than everyone else, you all seem to hate us...I don't get it.

Probably all the latent homosexuality. I mean homos have struggled for the right to be open and accepted and you guys just continue to hide it and pretend you don't like the cock. It's like your best friend who will lie to your face even when he knows he's caught - it's annoying. :biggrin:

[RAT]

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

I don't know where you are hanging out... But I have lived here all my life and I have never heard that.

The only people I see getting a serious case of the ass about the minorites are the fuck sticks who move here from out of the state.

People who do not want to conform to our way of life and culture.

I learned Spanish in 1970 in Kindergarten. I was not ESL... That came when someone from out of state thought it was a good idea to make it a big deal.

Till we had a population explosion from a lot of out siders did we have border problems. Why because these asshats think they have some type of entitlement, to WHAT I have no idea.

The laws have changed here. Not for the better. You can borrow on your house now... BAD FUCKING DEAL. The Blue laws are gone. Again BAD DEAL. Sundays are for family not to go shop and act like some New Yorker... That is why you go to New York... To go shop on Sundays.

I have a Black, Mexican, Dago, Coon-ass, and White in my family.

We are all Texans. Funny how that works.

Also it is a free country and if you don't like it here. You are a big bad ass contractor that makes a lot of money... Just fucking move... Oh I forgot... Texas gives you the best deal to live in the US... So shut your pie hole and be happy you are gifted enough to live in my State.

RO!!!

[RAT]

Probably all the latent homosexuality. I mean homos have struggled for the right to be open and accepted and you guys just continue to hide it and pretend you don't like the cock. It's like your best friend who will lie to your face even when he knows he's caught - it's annoying. :biggrin:

How does... You sucking my dick, make me gay???:eek::biggrin:

RO!!!

[KidA]

How does... You sucking my dick, make me gay???:eek::biggrin:

RO!!!

Hahahahahaha.

[cb88]

I don't know where you are hanging out... But I have lived here all my life and I have never heard that.

The only people I see getting a serious case of the ass about the minorites are the fuck sticks who move here from out of the state.

People who do not want to conform to our way of life and culture.

I learned Spanish in 1970 in Kindergarten. I was not ESL... That came when someone from out of state thought it was a good idea to make it a big deal.

Till we had a population explosion from a lot of out siders did we have border problems. Why because these asshats think they have some type of entitlement, to WHAT I have no idea.

The laws have changed here. Not for the better. You can borrow on your house now... BAD FUCKING DEAL. The Blue laws are gone. Again BAD DEAL. Sundays are for family not to go shop and act like some New Yorker... That is why you go to New York... To go shop on Sundays.

I have a Black, Mexican, Dago, Coon-ass, and White in my family.

We are all Texans. Funny how that works.

Also it is a free country and if you don't like it here. You are a big bad ass contractor that makes a lot of money... Just fucking move... Oh I forgot... Texas gives you the best deal to live in the US... So shut your pie hole and be happy you are gifted enough to live in my State.

RO!!!

:biggrin::biggrin:

Many of us are Texans by choice -- wasn't born here but got here as quick as I could. And as someone who was born & raised in Orange County California, then spent 7 1/2 years living down state Illinois with a bunch of blue dogs and upstate (Chicagoland) with a bunch of corrupt liberals--well, Texas is the best!!

I agree with Rat...don't like it here, don't live here. We may be a separate country soon anyhow. LOL :biggrin:

[BOFH]

I don't know where you are hanging out... But I have lived here all my life and I have never heard that.

The only people I see getting a serious case of the ass about the minorites are the fuck sticks who move here from out of the state.

People who do not want to conform to our way of life and culture.

I learned Spanish in 1970 in Kindergarten. I was not ESL... That came when someone from out of state thought it was a good idea to make it a big deal.

Till we had a population explosion from a lot of out siders did we have border problems. Why because these asshats think they have some type of entitlement, to WHAT I have no idea.

The laws have changed here. Not for the better. You can borrow on your house now... BAD FUCKING DEAL. The Blue laws are gone. Again BAD DEAL. Sundays are for family not to go shop and act like some New Yorker... That is why you go to New York... To go shop on Sundays.

I have a Black, Mexican, Dago, Coon-ass, and White in my family.

We are all Texans. Funny how that works.

Also it is a free country and if you don't like it here. You are a big bad ass contractor that makes a lot of money... Just fucking move... Oh I forgot... Texas gives you the best deal to live in the US... So shut your pie hole and be happy you are gifted enough to live in my State.

RO!!!


Well said! I'm the token Juero in my wife's family (thus, my family now.)

I don't begrudge any of them the right to speak Spanish, or call themselves Mexican, or whatever else they want to do.

[Scratchy]

I just saw this online and couldn't help laugh because of this thread. (read the name of the page too..)
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/im-a-texan-myself-so-its-okay-please-dont-kill-me.png

[RAT]

I just saw this online and couldn't help laugh because of this thread. (read the name of the page too..)
http://www.explosm.net/db/files/Comics/Rob/im-a-texan-myself-so-its-okay-please-dont-kill-me.png

HAHAHAH That is awesome... Except that we had a number of Mexicans who fought for Texas Independence.

Still funny as hell

RO!!!

[Kay]

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

Now lets disect this. The difference Brianj is that you won't hear a man born in Texas who has resided in lets say, England for the last two decades, say when someone inquires about his background, "I am a Texan-Englander." He will invariably say "I am a Texan" no matter how long he lives overseas. No matter where in the world I may lay my head for no matter how long, I am 100% pure Texan. Those hyphenateds don't seem to know which of the two they want to be, having no die hard connection to the land of their birth. I'm extremely proud of my Scottish heritage, but I don't go around calling myself Scot-Texan. I don't even say Texan-American. I am a Texan. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.

[BOFH]

Now lets disect this. The difference Brianj is that you won't hear a man born in Texas who has resided in lets say, England for the last two decades, say when someone inquires about his background, "I am a Texan-Englander." He will invariably say "I am a Texan" no matter how long he lives overseas. No matter where in the world I may lay my head for no matter how long, I am 100% pure Texan. Those hyphenateds don't seem to know which of the two they want to be, having no die hard connection to the land of their birth. I'm extremely proud of my Scottish heritage, but I don't go around calling myself Scot-Texan. I don't even say Texan-American. I am a Texan. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.


Agreed. As an aside, apparently, the Scottish like Texans. I couldn't pay for a drink there once the locals found out my wife and I are Texan. It was as if it's a huge novelty to them or something...

[Bravo Five Romeo]

Now lets disect this. The difference Brianj is that you won't hear a man born in Texas who has resided in lets say, England for the last two decades, say when someone inquires about his background, "I am a Texan-Englander." He will invariably say "I am a Texan" no matter how long he lives overseas. No matter where in the world I may lay my head for no matter how long, I am 100% pure Texan. Those hyphenateds don't seem to know which of the two they want to be, having no die hard connection to the land of their birth. I'm extremely proud of my Scottish heritage, but I don't go around calling myself Scot-Texan. I don't even say Texan-American. I am a Texan. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.You recently wrote a long post about how some immigrants don't fully assimilate to American culture and therefore aren't "real Americans"... they just want the benefit of being Americans.
here. (http://www.socnet.com/showpost.php?p=1193374&postcount=176)
So if your loyalty is to Texas before America, doesn't that make you not a "real American" too?
:biggrin:

[BOFH]

You recently wrote a long post about how some immigrants don't fully assimilate to American culture and therefore aren't "real Americans"... they just want the benefit of being Americans.
here. (http://www.socnet.com/showpost.php?p=1193374&postcount=176)
So if your loyalty is to Texas before America, doesn't that make you not a "real American" too?
:biggrin:


He's got you there, Kay.

[wowzers]

. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.

So our country plays second fiddle to your state?

[BOFH]

So our country plays second fiddle to your state?


Our country, as far as I'm concerned, is supposed to play second fiddle to EVERY state. Think about it, man!

Yes, my loyalties are to Texas first as well...though that does tend to put me in an awkward position, being in the Alabama Guard.

[wowzers]

Our country, as far as I'm concerned, is supposed to play second fiddle to EVERY state. Think about it, man!

Yes, my loyalties are to Texas first as well...though that does tend to put me in an awkward position, being in the Alabama Guard.

However your sworn to uphold the constitution. So say Texas decides it doesn't agree with some part of it, you support Texas?

[Kay]

You recently wrote a long post about how some immigrants don't fully assimilate to American culture and therefore aren't "real Americans"... they just want the benefit of being Americans.here. (http://www.socnet.com/showpost.php?p=1193374&postcount=176)

Yes and we could scale that down to state-size thinking about you yankees
that plague us from north of the Red River and refuse to assimilate.


So if your loyalty is to Texas before America, doesn't that make you not a "real American" too?
:biggrin:

IrishSquid, he may have me in check, but not check mate. I will craft an appropriate reply to the second half on the morrow. I'm too sleepy right now. I will go now and lay my head down tonight in the Great State of Texas, in the great United States of America and just be byGod thankful to part of both. So I will leave you all with a song - best version of it ever that you won't find on YouTube, so hear it here: http://listen.grooveshark.com/#/song/Johnny_Horton_The_Yellow_Rose_of_Texas_mp3/9763760

[BOFH]

However your sworn to uphold the constitution. So say Texas decides it doesn't agree with some part of it, you support Texas?

Why not? We already do exactly the same in supporting the Federal government when they trample the Constitution?
OK, really, that's just me, being a smartass, even though it is true, often enough.

That said, I'll re-phrase.
My first loyalty is to Texas, as a State in the United States of America, and not to the United States of America, as an entity.

[Kay]

though that does tend to put me in an awkward position,
being in the Alabama Guard.

What the .... :confused:

[BOFH]

What the .... :confused:
Yeah...I am in the Alabama National Guard.

I know 19th Group has a Company right here in San Antonio, but I like my unit.

[Tracy]

You recently wrote a long post about how some immigrants don't fully assimilate to American culture and therefore aren't "real Americans"... they just want the benefit of being Americans.
here. (http://www.socnet.com/showpost.php?p=1193374&postcount=176)
So if your loyalty is to Texas before America, doesn't that make you not a "real American" too?
:biggrin:

United States of America.

Texas is ranked 12th largest GDP in world. Only California is higher at 7th.
No personal income tax.
Tort reform.
Cost of Living below the National Average.
More equal opportunity; less equal outcome.
Racial/Ethnic Background in Texas Public Schools:
White: 35.7%
Black: 14.4%
Hispanic: 46.3%
Asian/Pacific Islander: 3.3%
American Indian/Alaskan Native: 0.3%
Houston and Austin both ranked in the Top Ten best places to live and work.
Schertz, TX ranked best small town to live in the USA.
Concealed Carry Laws and Castle Doctrine; both of which were tested in court within the last year. Still in their current form.
Uses the Death Penalty.
As a strategic world power, Texas ranks ahead of the UK and France.
I could continue, but the gist is Texas is necessary and vital to the continued welfare and safety of the United States.

I loyally serve the USA and have for the last 34 years. I have to live somewhere while serving; and Texas is hands-down the best place I lived thus far. Would I put the needs of Texas ahead of the USA? Hell yes; because there are more Texans loyal to the ideals of our Founders and the Constitution than anywhere else I've seen.

Hawks, Doves, Capitalists, Hippies, Gays, Straights, Democrats, Republicans, Pro-Life, Pro-Choice, Bubbas, Rocket Scientists, Natives and Immigrants. We got 'em all; and about the only thing they agree on is Texas is a great place. Period.

I'll close out by saying there are more 'Real Americans' per capita in Texas than a lot of other 'noisier' places we hear from all too frequently.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

Oh, I'm not disparaging the people of Tejas at all.
However, I am disparaging the notion that other Americans with different views aren't "real Americans."
A "real American" understands that even Americans with completely different views are "real Americans" too... even us East Coast liberal elitists. :biggrin:

That's why, as misguided as they are, I still accept Texans as real Americans too.
:biggrin:

[Ole crusty bastard]

My explanation (1st post) to my granddaughter was that the state should come first and by moving from Florida, her loyalty should also shift. Her biggest complaint now is I get to call her a "goat roper":smile:.

[Tracy]

My explanation (1st post) to my granddaughter was that the state should come first and by moving from Florida, her loyalty should also shift. Her biggest complaint now is I get to call her a "goat roper":smile:.

Doggies...:tongue:

[Forgetthisname]

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

Nice point.

[SATCOM]

The Pledge was required when I attended south FL public schools in the 60's. We also had to take a mandatory Americanism versus Communism class in H.S. I've heard that the class is no longer a requirement for graduation.

[Kay]

United States of America.

Texas is ranked 12th largest GDP in world. Only California is higher at 7th.
No personal income tax.
Tort reform.
Cost of Living below the National Average.
More equal opportunity; less equal outcome.
Racial/Ethnic Background in Texas Public Schools:
White: 35.7%
Black: 14.4%
Hispanic: 46.3%
Asian/Pacific Islander: 3.3%
American Indian/Alaskan Native: 0.3%
Houston and Austin both ranked in the Top Ten best places to live and work.
Schertz, TX ranked best small town to live in the USA.
Concealed Carry Laws and Castle Doctrine; both of which were tested in court within the last year. Still in their current form.
Uses the Death Penalty.
As a strategic world power, Texas ranks ahead of the UK and France.
I could continue, but the gist is Texas is necessary and vital to the continued welfare and safety of the United States.

I loyally serve the USA and have for the last 34 years. I have to live somewhere while serving; and Texas is hands-down the best place I lived thus far. Would I put the needs of Texas ahead of the USA? Hell yes; because there are more Texans loyal to the ideals of our Founders and the Constitution than anywhere else I've seen.

Hawks, Doves, Capitalists, Hippies, Gays, Straights, Democrats, Republicans, Pro-Life, Pro-Choice, Bubbas, Rocket Scientists, Natives and Immigrants. We got 'em all; and about the only thing they agree on is Texas is a great place. Period.

I'll close out by saying there are more 'Real Americans' per capita in Texas than a lot of other 'noisier' places we hear from all too frequently.

Damn! Reading that with my first cup of coffee was a great way to start off this day.

[Dirtpuppy]

Just my .02...I was born and raised in TX, and I think anyone from Texas calling for secession, calling themselves "Texan first American second" or any of all that other crap, is gay. I love my state, but that's just retarded.

[CV]

Fuck, I want to move to Texas now...

[MikeC2W]

United States of America.

Texas is ranked 12th largest GDP in world. Only California is higher at 7th.
No personal income tax.
Tort reform.
Cost of Living below the National Average.
More equal opportunity; less equal outcome.
Racial/Ethnic Background in Texas Public Schools:
White: 35.7%
Black: 14.4%
Hispanic: 46.3%
Asian/Pacific Islander: 3.3%
American Indian/Alaskan Native: 0.3%
Houston and Austin both ranked in the Top Ten best places to live and work.
Schertz, TX ranked best small town to live in the USA.
Concealed Carry Laws and Castle Doctrine; both of which were tested in court within the last year. Still in their current form.
Uses the Death Penalty.
As a strategic world power, Texas ranks ahead of the UK and France.
I could continue, but the gist is Texas is necessary and vital to the continued welfare and safety of the United States.

I loyally serve the USA and have for the last 34 years. I have to live somewhere while serving; and Texas is hands-down the best place I lived thus far. Would I put the needs of Texas ahead of the USA? Hell yes; because there are more Texans loyal to the ideals of our Founders and the Constitution than anywhere else I've seen.

Hawks, Doves, Capitalists, Hippies, Gays, Straights, Democrats, Republicans, Pro-Life, Pro-Choice, Bubbas, Rocket Scientists, Natives and Immigrants. We got 'em all; and about the only thing they agree on is Texas is a great place. Period.

I'll close out by saying there are more 'Real Americans' per capita in Texas than a lot of other 'noisier' places we hear from all too frequently.

Great post.

I had the awesome opportunity to live in Texas for 4 years back in 00', now all I do is talk about going back.

[Scratchy]

I love being a woodchuck. You guys think you love your state? lol

[SOTB]

I just moved here to be able to legally shoot people....

[skyhawk691]

What is it about Texas that I love?
I could write a book...and so many have....Texas pride, friendly folks, wide open spaces, lonely highways, rodeos, cattle guards, windmills,tumbleweeds, pumpjacks, feedstores, DQ's, Allsups, Sonic, Texas country music Pat Green, Kevin Fowler, Ben Atkins, white starched shirts and Wranglers, country western dancehalls/roadhouses, livestock auctions at the sale barns, hunting, fishing, low rents and house and land prices, family values, good law enforcement, TEXAS TOUGH, clean, great weather, pickup trucks everywhere, the smell of feedlots, great job opportunities, versatility of landscape and environment, longhorn cattle, great steaks, great Tex Mex, mom and pop taquerios for running up to get a breakfast burrito, beer barns, no state income tax.........sheesh, the list goes on.....and all the while I write this, I am skeered to let the secret out about how great Texas is cuz I dont want too many transplants (unless they are willing to adapt to Texas ways.

[Tracy]

Just my .02...I was born and raised in TX, and I think anyone from Texas calling for secession, calling themselves "Texan first American second" or any of all that other crap, is gay. I love my state, but that's just retarded.

Didn't call for secession.

Yes, I do put Texas ahead of the USA for the reasons cited earlier. Texas represents the core of what makes America what it is. Hell, damn near every state in the mid-west from Mexico to Canada can make that claim.

What is America right now? National Health Care Plan. Bailed out companies. Cap and Trade. Witch Hunts. Entitlements. Right now, America needs Texas a LOT more than the other way around. Particularly from an economic point of view.

What, exactly, is the other crap that makes me gay?

I have more time in marriage and/or time in service than you have time in a t-shirt.

My wife? Career military. Our son? Career Military. Our daughter? Finishing her studies to be a wildlife researcher.

Retarded?

I have graduate certificates/degrees in two major disciplines: Computer Science and GIS/Remote Sensing. My undergrad studies were computer science and mathematics. So what? I'm passing up six-figure jobs in other states because Texas is a nicer place to live; and if I can help make it nicer, I will. That's the rent I pay for living there.

Right now, in Iraq, I'm referred to as "The Cowboy" by the Iraqis and TCNs. Two reasons: I wear a cowboy hat and I'm polite to them. I have to wear the hat because of skin cancer; and the politeness to other people comes from my career in Special Forces. When they found out I live in Texas, that somehow explained my demeanor and mode of dress; because I didn't explain the real reasons to them.

So if being a so-called 'Texan' can create a little good will, who am I to f*ck that up?

[Dirtpuppy]

What is it about Texas that I love?
I could write a book...and so many have....Texas pride, friendly folks, wide open spaces, lonely highways, rodeos, cattle guards, windmills,tumbleweeds, pumpjacks, feedstores, DQ's, Allsups, Sonic, Texas country music Pat Green, Kevin Fowler, Ben Atkins, white starched shirts and Wranglers, country western dancehalls/roadhouses, livestock auctions at the sale barns, hunting, fishing, low rents and house and land prices, family values, good law enforcement, TEXAS TOUGH, clean, great weather, pickup trucks everywhere, the smell of feedlots, great job opportunities, versatility of landscape and environment, longhorn cattle, great steaks, great Tex Mex, mom and pop taquerios for running up to get a breakfast burrito, beer barns, no state income tax.........sheesh, the list goes on.....and all the while i write this, i am skeered to let the secret out about how great Texas is cuz i dont want too many transplants (unless they are willing to adapt to Texas ways.

Dont forget all the beautiful women...

[skyhawk691]

Dont forget all the beautiful women...

That's a Given..:biggrin:

[SOTB]

Dont forget all the beautiful women...There are some pretty girls here. But all of that great food everyone is listing is also enjoyed by women here -- and apparently, it is legal for them to do so (sadly). So for every good-looking gal I've seen in TX, I've seen 10 that look like they ate one of her for breakfast....

[Tracy]

Addendum: There are three flag patches sold in the TCN stores here: Iraq, USA and... Texas. In color and desert camouflage.

Hmmm... That must be some interesting business model they're using.

[Dirtpuppy]

There are some pretty girls here. But all of that great food everyone is listing is also enjoyed by women here -- and apparently, it is legal for them to do so (sadly). So for every good-looking gal I've seen in TX, I've seen 10 that look like they ate one of her for breakfast....

Hahaha.....you sir, are absolutely correct.

[Brianj]

Look, cowboys and cowgirls, I’m not knocking Texas. We happen to like it here. I admit that as a non-native, I’m taken aback by the concept of “Texan first, American second”, but I truly admire the pride Texans have in their state, and I’ve even adopted some of it myself.

Now lets disect this. The difference Brianj is that you won't hear a man born in Texas who has resided in lets say, England for the last two decades, say when someone inquires about his background, "I am a Texan-Englander." He will invariably say "I am a Texan" no matter how long he lives overseas. No matter where in the world I may lay my head for no matter how long, I am 100% pure Texan. Those hyphenateds don't seem to know which of the two they want to be, having no die hard connection to the land of their birth. I'm extremely proud of my Scottish heritage, but I don't go around calling myself Scot-Texan. I don't even say Texan-American. I am a Texan. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.

So it’s the hyphen that’s the issue? So no one here would have any problem with, say, a Urugauyan-born, naturalized citizen of the United States saying “Well, I’m a Urugayan first, and an American second. Period.”. No problem at all? How is that any different? I mean, there’s a lot to love about Uruguay…llamas and shit. It’s a beautiful place, I’m told.

It seems to me that some people in this country feel unduly threatened when minority groups in America choose to identify with their group on a given cause or issue – or even just collectively identify themselves, celebrate their culture or language or…whatever. Why is that behavior viewed any differently than what you express in your posts? Should Texans outside of Texas who express pride in their state be told to “Blend in! Assimilate! Or go back to Texas!”?

As far as being a “Texan first”…well, that’s super when you’re enjoying those hill country sunsets. Should you ever have the misfortune to land in some shithole foreign jail, flash them your Texas passport, and tell them you demand to speak to someone at the Texas consulate.

I’m a big, bad ass contractor who makes a lot of money and should move? :confused: No, and no thanks. Since I’m an American citizen, and as I served in the armed forces that defend this state, and since my federal tax dollars support this state, and all my state, local and other sales and property taxes do the same…since I’m a registered voter with an exercised voice in state and local elections, since my children were born here and go to school here, and mostly since I just applied the new Texas DOT 2010 registration sticker to both of my vehicles, I’m planning to stay...

[RAT]

I’m a big, bad ass contractor who makes a lot of money and should move? :confused: No, and no thanks. Since I’m an American citizen, and as I served in the armed forces that defend this state, and since my federal tax dollars support this state, and all my state, local and other sales and property taxes do the same…since I’m a registered voter with an exercised voice in state and local elections, since my children were born here and go to school here, and mostly since I just applied the new Texas DOT 2010 registration sticker to both of my vehicles, I’m planning to stay...

Now your a Trans-Plant Texan.:biggrin: (I was a little on the souce last night)

And as a former Armed Forces member it sounds like you are still not taking advantage of all the programs the State has for vet's.

As for Mexican-American, African-American, Indian-American.. ect.... That is all North East crap... I know I don't like it here in Texas. Texas was a melting pot. The West could not afford to have difffernt gangs. If you did you were dead.

We live in the United States. (States Pride) If you don't think it is a BIG DEAL all you have to do is turn on your TV on Saturday and watch College Football... All the big teams are State Schools... People Rally behind them and it means a lot. Again, more so in the South than the North.

Also welcome.;)

RO!!!

PS... I also posted that Capt Dan Moran was a Great American. NOT TEXAN... HE said he was a Texan...
http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?t=88941
Cross thread points.

[Fubar]

What is it about Texas that I love?
I could write a book...and so many have....Texas pride, friendly folks, wide open spaces, lonely highways, rodeos, cattle guards, windmills,tumbleweeds, pumpjacks, feedstores, DQ's, Allsups, Sonic, Texas country music Pat Green, Kevin Fowler, Ben Atkins, white starched shirts and Wranglers, country western dancehalls/roadhouses, livestock auctions at the sale barns, hunting, fishing, low rents and house and land prices, family values, good law enforcement, TEXAS TOUGH, clean, great weather, pickup trucks everywhere, the smell of feedlots, great job opportunities, versatility of landscape and environment, longhorn cattle, great steaks, great Tex Mex, mom and pop taquerios for running up to get a breakfast burrito, beer barns, no state income tax.........sheesh, the list goes on.....and all the while I write this, I am skeered to let the secret out about how great Texas is cuz I dont want too many transplants (unless they are willing to adapt to Texas ways.

+1

Full Disclosure - I'm not a TX Native, but I got here as fast as I could. Came to visit the Wife's family, never wanted to leave.

CA Native - once a great State, but imports & transplants have ruined it. Sadly, I can see the same shit happening in the D/FW Metro - imports attacking all that is good in TX. Example - Plano ISD attempting to ban anything to do with Christmas celebtrations a few years back. You Yankees go home. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out. I'm stayin.'

[LRS Guy]

I'm not a Texan, but if folks would take a bit more pride in where their state and country, this would be a better place to live.

[godfather]

Dont forget all the beautiful women...

Or the Friday night lights..................

[godfather]

Example - Plano ISD attempting to ban anything to do with Christmas celebtrations a few years back. You Yankees go home. Don't let the door hit you in the ass on the way out.

Well I'm from Plano, I went to every grade in Plano, I moved back to Plano when I got out of the Corps. This USED to be a small town with small town values, now we are turning into just another mid sized PC burb. Makes me sick. I very very rarely see anyone I know from school and my graduating class was over 1300! I guess thats progress.....:confused:

[Brianj]

As for Mexican-American, African-American, Indian-American.. ect.... That is all North East crap... I know I don't like it here in Texas. Texas was a melting pot. The West could not afford to have difffernt gangs. If you did you were dead.

Good point.

Also welcome.;)

Thanks! I think it was determined that you and I were actually on the same float at one point...back before I became a Transplant.:cool:

[Princeps Belli]

The DFW metroplex is A-mazing. I love it, except for the weather in the summers. I have been praying that God reduce it just a tad. I don't think He cares about my prayers in this regard, and I hope I don't offend Him.

Irving has the same affect of rapid growth in it, but I still hold out for the improvements. Small town values in a big city size would be nice. Just to assert a claim to fame though: the city was on the national news because it worked with ICE to extradite illegal immigrants.

Now, every time I pick up the Dallas Morning News and look in the classified section, they've slapped a great deal of fines on apartment buildings that haven't met the standard. Also, the Texas stadium is going to be leveled, and they are going to supposedly put in some nice housing along with a shopping center. It would be good for 183. It looks horrible.

Anyway, I'm glad beautiful-haired Perry and the lovely legislative authorities have been at work to increase the pride in the State. Texas is truly one of a kind- good laws, good people, good economy, and a pride like no other. God bless Texas.

[Fubar]

Well I'm from Plano, I went to every grade in Plano, I moved back to Plano when I got out of the Corps. This USED to be a small town with small town values, now we are turning into just another mid sized PC burb. Makes me sick. I very very rarely see anyone I know from school and my graduating class was over 1300! I guess thats progress.....:confused:

What side is this? EAST SIDE!!!!!! :biggrin:

(Johnny Ringo needs to be fired)

[humble pie]

When one of my friends was living in Tanzania, the locals didn't know shit about the United States, but by God, they knew about Texas and they knew about the Alamo.

I am an 8th generation Texan, and my great great great uncle was Andrew Ponton, Mayor of Gonzales, who told the Mexicans to go piss up a flag pole when they asked for their cannon. I was born here and I will be buried here.

Semper Texas.

[MikeC2W]

New England used to be a really cool place to live, despite all the libs that have hijacked it's coolness as of late. I'm hoping for a comeback, but I'm not holding my breath.

If I wasn't working in New York, I would move the family to Austin tomorrow and spare them the feeling of 'hometownness' here in CT. I've got 4 great grandfathers buried in the town over from me so the roots are deep. I love everything about it, but sadly it seems not really worth it anymore. High taxes, great traffic, and 86% of the population voting liberal.... ugh.

[MBTex]

Son started 4th grade this year. That is the year they learn Texas History.

[Princeps Belli]

English is the language of freedom and free men. Texans prove that they don't care much about language because they are too busy translating ideas into action.

[LoneRanger]

Now lets disect this. The difference Brianj is that you won't hear a man born in Texas who has resided in lets say, England for the last two decades, say when someone inquires about his background, "I am a Texan-Englander." He will invariably say "I am a Texan" no matter how long he lives overseas. No matter where in the world I may lay my head for no matter how long, I am 100% pure Texan. Those hyphenateds don't seem to know which of the two they want to be, having no die hard connection to the land of their birth. I'm extremely proud of my Scottish heritage, but I don't go around calling myself Scot-Texan. I don't even say Texan-American. I am a Texan. My loyalties lay first to Texas, then to America.

X2. Amen.

[Princeps Belli]

100X Amen. But that's what you get when you have a State that fought for its own freedom. Thank God it had the United States to articulate its ideas, but Texas has its own Declaration of Independence. Remember the Alamo. Remember the Goliad.

[Blackjack78]

I don't know where you are hanging out... But I have lived here all my life and I have never heard that.

The only people I see getting a serious case of the ass about the minorites are the fuck sticks who move here from out of the state.

People who do not want to conform to our way of life and culture.



The laws have changed here. Not for the better. You can borrow on your house now... BAD FUCKING DEAL. The Blue laws are gone. Again BAD DEAL. Sundays are for family not to go shop and act like some New Yorker... That is why you go to New York... To go shop on Sundays.


RO!!!

Hey asshat ;), I'm a dayum Plano Brooklexican, you don't want to come here and shop on Sunday, don't , don't want to drink here, don't. What would you know about New York Sundays? You and Mike are most times passed out on Ex's floor lol

[Kay]

There are three flag patches sold in the TCN stores here: Iraq, USA and... Texas.

Need we say more? ;)

[MikeC2W]

Hey asshat ;), I'm a dayum Plano Brooklexican, you don't want to come here and shop on Sunday, don't , don't want to drink here, don't. What would you know about New York Sundays? You and Mike are most times passed out on Ex's floor lol


BAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH - good point.

[Blackjack78]

BAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAH - good point.

Lol,shrugs. You up for dinner next week?

[Brianj]

English is the language of freedom and free men. Texans prove that they don't care much about language because they are too busy translating ideas into action.

Uh, okay. I must have missed that edition of "Schoolhouse Rock".

[RedDawg_03]

All of my wife's family lives in Texas and if I got a call tomorrow about a job, we would be on the way. I love that place and spent a couple of years there on active duty and as a contractor working out at Lackland. My wife and I met and got married in Texas and my oldest child was born in Corpus.
I have a small plastic Longhorn steer that I keep on my desk to remind me that her and I will be going back there eventually.

If you can't find it in Texas...you don't need it.

[godfather]

What side is this? EAST SIDE!!!!!! :biggrin:

Back then we were West, now I think they just call them Plano. O and EAST SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

[RAT]

Hey asshat ;), I'm a dayum Plano Brooklexican, you don't want to come here and shop on Sunday, don't , don't want to drink here, don't. What would you know about New York Sundays? You and Mike are most times passed out on Ex's floor lol

Hahahahahaahahah SNORT hahahahaa

Ok your right Sundays in NY look good under my eyelids. Hahaha

This thread is awesome. I am from Texas and Proud of it. But no less Proud of someone from NYC, LA, New Orleans, or what ever part of the United States they are from.

In Texas we are lucky in the fact that it is so big. Hell Road Island is not as big as the King Ranch. I don't mind people coming here from the South to work. Their language, customs, and food do not scare me. What scares me are the people who do move here who do not want to embrace the diversity that we have in Texas.

I was talking to my better 1/2 and she is from Chicago and very Italian. She complains that the food here is not as good as Chi town nor are the neighbor hoods set up like Chi town. I understand where she is coming from. But her great grand father came over here on a boat and did not speak a lick of English. Her father had to go to school and learn English.

So saying that... What we have is a new entry point into the US it has moved from Ellis Island to South Texas. If we work with them and bring them into our culture we will not have a problem at the end of my life.

I do love Texas since it is my home. I love the USA just as much. Just as in Last of The Moheicans movie: My family and friends 1st. State and Country next. But I'll be damn if someone thinks that the governments position out weigh my families and friends positions and security in this world.

Blackjack... We know your not Brooklexian. LMFAO... Well as Ralphie May would say: anyone speaks Spanish in the USA... It does not matter if you are Mexican, Guatemala, Honduras, Panamas...

You from South of South Padre Island Texas... Your Mexican. LMAO.

RO!!!

[BOFH]

Just my .02...I was born and raised in TX, and I think anyone from Texas calling for secession, calling themselves "Texan first American second" or any of all that other crap, is gay. I love my state, but that's just retarded.


Yes...clearly, I'm both retarded AND gay. I'm sure my 2 children (both extremely intelligent, by the way) are evidence that I like to take it in the ass, right?

I'm sure my ability to articulate my thoughts in the English language, coupled with professional knowledge and experience, must be evidence that I'm retarded. Right?

Or, could it be that you just don't agree, and you, like so many others, will instantly pull the "if you don't agree with me, you're stupid!" argument.

Fuck you very much, and have a nice Texas day.

[Avandir]

I don't get it. A state is a state is state. It's nothing more then the name of a place that holds a foundation for a building where I can sleep at night.

Don't get me wrong, I love America but this whole, "Texas is better then everyone else," thing just doesn't make sense to me.

[BOFH]

I don't get it. A state is a state is state. It's nothing more then the name of a place that holds a foundation for a building where I can sleep at night.

Don't get me wrong, I love America but this whole, "Texas is better then everyone else," thing just doesn't make sense to me.

You miss the whole fucking point. It's not about Texas being better than anyone else. It's about "My State," being better than any other state. Otherwise, is there any reason to have loyalty?

Taking your argument on a larger scale, how can I say that America is better than any other place? Only reason I can is that I'm proud to be an American. I speak from pride, not from some universally known fact that everyone agrees on.

[Avandir]

You miss the whole fucking point. It's not about Texas being better than anyone else. It's about "My State," being better than any other state. Otherwise, is there any reason to have loyalty?

Taking your argument on a larger scale, how can I say that America is better than any other place? Only reason I can is that I'm proud to be an American. I speak from pride, not from some universally known fact that everyone agrees on.

I get it now. Regardless, I don't hold any special loyalties to any place other then my country as a whole. From Cali to Maine, I love it all equally.

Ya'll have a good one.

[SOTB]

You miss the whole fucking point.Are you dudes taking 'roids? Why the hate? Waaaaaaaaaaaaaay too much emotion, IMO.It's not about Texas being better than anyone else. It's about "My State," being better than any other state.Rivalries are a normal, and I believe, healthy aspect of being human. Sure, it CAN be taken to an extreme, and IMO that extreme can be unhealthy.

But the above is no worse than taking anything to an extreme.

IE, my wife just opened a box of Raisinets next to me. She grabbed some and then I devoured the rest. Afterwards, I'm feeling guilty and looking at the box and I read; "Raisinets are a natural source of antioxidants, which help maintain body health. Enjoy!" I'm sure that they ARE healthy. Although eating the whole friggin box might be pushing it.:biggrin:

Everything in moderation. Rivalries, too.Otherwise, is there any reason to have loyalty?Well, yes. People have loyalties to all sorts of inferior products, services, people, whatever. And they know that the thing they are loyal to is inferior (or not better), and are still loyal. Loyalty is often based on far more than something being "better."

OK, my rant is over. I still like the idea of living here and shooting people without going to jail....

[godfather]

I don't get it.

Obviously

[BOFH]

Are you dudes taking 'roids? Why the hate?

Nah, no 'roids...just still keyed up a bit after my response to dirtpuppy.

[MBTex]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apMyjOAacyA

Today we salute you Mr. Way Too Proud of Texas Guy.

Mr. Way Too Proud of Texas Guy!

Men from lesser states might know their state's capital, but you? You know your state's bird, tree and even reptile.

Love that horny toad.

You display your pride with your Lone Star tattoo, "Native Texan" bumper sticker, and contempt for any state that doesn't start with "Tex" and end with "as."

That spells Texas.

Sure, there are 49 other states in the Union, but they are smaller, wussier, and the people talk funny.

Yankee wussies.

So crack open a nice cold Bud Light, oh lover of the Lone Star state. Because all that flag waving must have made you thirsty.

[BOFH]

When I heard that for the first time on the radio, my wife just crached up and said they must have met me at some point.

[Dirtpuppy]

Nah, no 'roids...just still keyed up a bit after my response to dirtpuppy.

If I offended you or anyone else here with my "gay" remark, I sincerely apologize, I don't think anyone has homosexual tendencies for loving this great state of ours. I do not mean any disrespect to their families either.

I believe that Im an American first and a Texan always...

[BOFH]

If I offended you or anyone else here with my "gay" remark, I sincerely apologize, I don't think anyone has homosexual tendencies for loving this great state of ours. I do not mean any disrespect to their families either.

I believe that Im an American first and a Texan always...


I've been trying to think of the most eloquent way to state my position...unfortunately, I'm not good with flowery words...so I'll simply say that I am a Texan, serving the United States of America.

[Fubar]

Back then we were West, now I think they just call them Plano. O and EAST SUCKS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:biggrin:

LOL

You know why EAST sucks? Because the PISD Board, stacked full of central and west types, won't let east hire a decent coach. Never have, never will. :biggrin:

[Princeps Belli]

I would like for someone to come up with a good definition of a state. Please. I have been searching, but a state is just a state of what? State of being, state of power, territory, language? What does the United States mean? Every country, state, Political entity, land, people....? It's all so endless. The possibility that territory, language, country, and all other things may change... What can we call a state? In Texas, you can find the correct termination, term, terminology.

Three lovely consonant sounds housing two vowels. The sound begins with the dental to lead us into the wonder of the word, then an E (eh), followed by the point of realization with the X (as if you've given up what you've left behind by crucifixion), then the A (ah) to see the sigh of the never ending S (sss). It's almost like Heaven, God's country. Except I wonder why He punishes us with the Hella-Hot-Weather. I love the rest of the United States. All except most of the Midwest, Southeast, Southwest, and Northeast.

As a proviso to being a Texan, you have to welcome your brothers who want to join. It's a state of mind. We are everywhere you want to be, and we are happy to have immigrants, provided they say "ain't" and "y'all" and sometimes even warsher (but this should only be used extremely moderately and in the privacy of your own home).

What other state funnels so many members in the military, has such a strong work ethic, puts such a number of Presidents into office (am a bit shy about some of 'em), has an overall great football team, and sends people into space. Anyone want to know why? The summers here make anyone want to leave. Balls hot and humid.

[Blackjack78]

I think it's great that folks love their state. With all the BS thats going on in this country now, the 1st place I thought about relocating was Texas. Problem is, it's to damn hot, furgeddaboutit :).

I would bring my unique style of Brooklyn Policing there. I would have a Stetson like Walker and carry twin pearl handled 45 Long Colt Peacemakers. I would have a trusty steed, well, maybe not. My experience has always been going south while the trusty steed was going north, made me sound like Erkel.

[Kay]

Bum Phillips says it Best - March 2, 2004:


HAPPY BIRTHDAY, TEXAS -- FROM BUM PHILLIPS

Being Texan by Bum Phillips

Dear Friends,

Last year, I wrote a small piece about what it means to me to be a Texan. My friends know it means about damned near everything. Anyway, this fella asked me to reprint what I'd wrote and I didn't have it. So I set out to think about rewriting something. I considered writing about all the great things I love about Texas. There are way too many things to list. I can't even begin to do it justice. Lemme let you in on my short list.

It starts with The Window at Big Bend, which in and of itself is proof of God. It goes to Lake Sam Rayburn where my Granddad taught me more about life than fishin, and enough about fishin to last a lifetime. I can talk about Tyler, and Longview, and Odessa and Cisco, and Abilene and Poteet and every place in between. Every little part of Texas feels special. Every person who ever flew over the Lone Star thinks of Bandera or Victoria or Manor or wherever they call "home" as the best little part of the best state.

So I got to thinkin about it, and here's what I really want to say. Last year, I talked about all the great places and great heroes who make Texas what it is. I talked about Willie and Waylon and Michael Dell and Michael DeBakey and my Dad and LBJ and Denton Cooley. I talked about everybody that came to mind. It took me sitting here tonight reading this stack of emails and thinkin' about where I've been and what I've done since the last time I wrote on this occasion to remind me what it is about Texas that is really great.

You see, this last month or so I finally went to Europe for the first time. I hadn't ever been, and didn't too much want to. But you know all my damned friends are always talking about "the time they went to Europe." So, I finally went. It was a hell of a trip to be sure. All they did when they saw me was say the same thing, before they'd ever met me. "Hey cowboy, we love Texas." I guess the hat tipped em off. But let me tell you what, they all came up with a smile on their faces. You know why? They knew for damned sure that I was gonna be nice to em. They knew it cause they knew I was from Texas. They knew something that hadn't even hit me. They knew Texans, even though they'd never met one.

That's when it occurred to me. Do you know what is great about Texas? Do you know why when my friend Beverly and I were trekking across country to see 15 baseball games we got sick and had to come home after 8? Do you know why every time I cross the border I say, "Lord, please don't let me die in _____"?

Do you know why children in Japan can look at a picture of the great State and know exactly what it is about the same time they can tell a rhombus from a trapezoid? I can tell you that right quick. You. The same spirit that made 186 men cross that line in the sand in San Antonio damned near 165 years ago is still in you today. Why else would my friend send me William Barrett Travis' plea for help in an email just a week ago, or why would Charles Stenciled ask me to reprint a Texas Independence column from a year ago?
What would make my friend Elizabeth say, "I don't know if I can marry a man who doesn't love Texas like I do?" Why in the hell are 1,000 people coming to my house this weekend to celebrate a holiday for what used to be a nation that is now a state? Because the spirit that made that nation is the spirit that burned in every person who founded this great place we call Texas, and they passed it on through blood or sweat to every one of us.

You see, that spirit that made Texas what it is, is alive in all of us, even if we can't stand next to a cannon to prove it, and it's our responsibility to keep that fire burning. Every person who ever put a "Native Texan" or an "I wasn't born in Texas but I got here as fast a could" sticker on his car understands. Anyone who ever hung a map of Texas on their wall or flew a Lone Star flag on their porch knows what I mean.

My Dad's buddy Bill has an old saying. He says that some people were forged of a hotter fire. Well, that's what it is to be Texan. To be forged of a hotter fire.
To know that part of Colorado was Texas. That part of New Mexico was Texas. That part of Oklahoma was Texas. Yep. Talk all you want. Part of what you got was what we gave you. To look at a picture of Idaho or Istanbul and say, "what the Hell is that?" when you know that anyone in Idaho or Istanbul who sees a picture of Texas knows damned good and well what it is. It isn't the shape, it isn't the state, it's the state of mind. You're what makes Texas.

The fact that you would take 15 minutes out of your day to read this, because that's what Texas means to you, that's what makes Texas what it is. The fact that when you see the guy in front of you litter you honk and think, "Sonofabitch. Littering on MY highway."

When was the last time you went to a person's house in New York and you saw a big map of New York on their wall? That was never. When did you ever drive through Oklahoma and see their flag waving on four businesses in a row? Can you even tell me what the flag in Louisiana looks like? I damned sure can't.

But I bet my ass you can't drive 20 minutes from your house and not see a business that has a big Texas flag as part of its logo. If you haven't done business with someone called All Tex something or Lone Star somebody or other, or Texas such and such, you hadn't lived here for too long.

When you ask a man from New York what he is, he'll say a stockbroker, or an accountant, or an ad exec. When you ask a woman from California what she is, she'll tell you her last name or her major. Hell either of em might say "I'm a republican," or they might be a democrat. When you ask a Texan what they are, before they say, "I'm a Methodist," or "I'm a lawyer," or "I'm a Smith," they tell you they're a Texan. I got nothin' against all those other places, and Lord knows they've probably got some fine folks, but in your gut you know it just like I do, Texas is just a little different.

So tomorrow when you drive down the road and you see a person broken down on the side of the road, stop and help. When you are in a bar in California, buy a Californian a drink and tell him it's for Texas Independence Day. Remind the person in the cube next to you that he wouldn't be here enjoying this if it weren't for Sam Houston, and if he or she doesn't know the story, tell them.

When William Barrett Travis wrote in 1836 that he would never surrender and he would have Victory or Death, what he was really saying was that he and his men were forged of a hotter fire. They weren't your average every day men.

Well, that is what it means to be a Texan. It meant it then, and that's why it means it today. It means just what all those people North of the Red River accuse us of thinking it means. It means there's no mountain that we can't climb. It means that we can swim the Gulf in the winter. It means that Earl Campbell ran harder and Houston is bigger and Dallas is richer and Alpine is hotter and Stevie Ray was smoother and God vacations in Texas.

It means that come Hell or high water, when the chips are down and the Good Lord is watching, we're Texans by damned, and just like in 1836, that counts for something. So for today at least, when your chance comes around, go out and prove it. It's true because we believe it's true. If you are sitting wondering what the Hell I'm talking about, this ain't for you.

But if the first thing you are going to do when the Good Lord calls your number is find the men who sat in that tiny mission in San Antonio and shake their hands, then you're the reason I wrote this tonight, and this is for you. So until next time you hear from me, God Bless and Happy Texas Independence Day.

May you be poor in misfortune, rich in blessings, slow to make enemies and quick to make friends. But, rich or poor, quick or slow, may you know nothing but happiness from this day forward.

Regards From Texas

[cb88]

I think it's great that folks love their state. With all the BS thats going on in this country now, the 1st place I thought about relocating was Texas. Problem is, it's to damn hot, furgeddaboutit :).
.

That's why there is A/c -- it's only too hot about 3, maybe 4 months of the year -- the rest of the time it's heaven :biggrin: You don't move here for the summers, you move here for the rest of the year. ;)

[BOFH]

That's why there is A/c -- it's only too hot about 3, maybe 4 months of the year -- the rest of the time it's heaven :biggrin: You don't move here for the summers, you move here for the rest of the year. ;)

You don't live in San Antonio, do you? Seriously, I thought the temp was more pleasant in HOA. And I drive a $500.00 pickup truck with no air conditioning. It's lovely. On the other hand, I still say there is no place in the world I'd rather be.

[Tracy]

I think it's great that folks love their state. With all the BS thats going on in this country now, the 1st place I thought about relocating was Texas. Problem is, it's to damn hot, furgeddaboutit :)...

Heck, that's just the Sun giving you a big ol' "Welcome to Texas" hug.

If you want move down here, I'll be your Visa Sponsor...:biggrin:

I would bring my unique style of Brooklyn Policing there. I would have a Stetson like Walker and carry twin pearl handled 45 Long Colt Peacemakers. I would have a trusty steed, well, maybe not. My experience has always been going south while the trusty steed was going north, made me sound like Erkel.

You and Ranger Ray Martinez would get along grrrreat...

Trusty Steeds these days have all-wheel drive.

[Princeps Belli]

Your quote, Kay, was magnanimous and beautiful. The pride that swelled within my heart is.........unspeakable. An interesting note, I lived in Italy (not Italy, Texas), when I was young, and people asked me about myself. I told them that I was from Texas, and all they kept saying was, "JR" and "Dallas." I found out later that it was the show that they were speaking about.

Anyway, I am blond and blue-eyed, and I spoke very good "Romanacia (Romanacha). You couldn't imagine the impression that I left. The girls loved me. All I remember was, "Da me un' Bacino (the "c" and "i" or "e" is a "ch" sound, like ciao (chow).

The Italians, in a small town of Italy, nonetheless, knew about Texas. Granted it was from a television series, but still, they probably knew it just as much, if not more, than they knew about Hollywood. I hope that I represented Texas well. I had many amici and some "girlfriends," so I think that a Texan has helped to spread the wealth of hospitality and friendship (the original meaning of "Tejas").

Today it has more Fortune 500 companies than any other U.S. state.[10][11] With a growing base of industry, the state is a leader in many, including agriculture, petrochemicals, energy, computers and electronics, aerospace, and biomedical sciences. It leads the nation in export revenue and has the second-highest gross state product.

Also, The Compromise of 1850 set Texas's boundaries at their present form. Texas ceded its claims to land which later became half of present day New Mexico, a third of Colorado, and small portions of Kansas, Oklahoma, and Wyoming to the federal government, in return for the assumption of $10 million of the old republic's debt.[70] Post-war Texas grew rapidly as migrants poured into the cotton lands of the state.[71]

I obtained these quotes from Wiki, but I did not know that we were considered the "the The Live Music Capital of the World, boasts "more live music venues per capita than such music hotbeds as Nashville, Memphis, Los Angeles, Las Vegas or New York City."[186]

To continue......UT Southwestern is one of the best medical schools in the country, UT Law school is one of the best Law schools in the country, and Gates, the secretary of the DOD, was a dean at A&M. Furthermore, I hate the summer, unpredictable weather, and............well, nothing else, except that we may lose our international identity if we don't keep it strong.

Oh, let's not forget the guru, Chuck Norris himself, was a Texas Ranger (at least in the show Walker), and we all know about Chuck..........

[past]

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/hlthin07/p60no235_table8.pdf

Texas, also where almost a quarter of the population has no health insurance.

http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/06stl_pi.html

California, which on second look, doesn't have taxes quite as high as one might intuit from touted rhetoric.

[BOFH]

Texas, also where almost a quarter of the population has no health insurance.

And yet, they seem to get by just fine without it. I, on the other hand, do have health insurance, because I got a job, worked, and paid for my insurance.

[Princeps Belli]

Texas, also where almost a quarter of the population has no health insurance.
Be hard!!!! healthcare smelthcare

Actually, Texas has one of the overall best healthcare systems in the nation, if not the world. Think of UT Southwestern. "Google-Fu" should give results. Anyway, the Baylor system and Scottish Rite hospitals of the Freemasons seem pretty good, and they appear quite competitive with any other in the Nation.

Just because we don't want "Obama care" with its heavily disputed "public option" doesn't mean we don't have good healthcare, which I think is more important than some pithy quote about the quarter of the population has no health insurance.
. By context, this seems to insinuate a lower standard, as if there is good frame of reference here.

What should we compare it to? Oh, I don't know California or Massachusetts. Sure, they are great with Harvard med and MIT (forgive me for not knowing California's great medical or scientific provider).

In any case, we should reflect upon the fact that California has a great deal of red going on its budget, or, should I say that credits greatly outweigh debits. I don't know what they are doing, and I shouldn't be so arrogant about the facts, but I think that Texas provides its citizens with fair enough healthcare, even if the population loves meat, likes to smoke, and occasionally drinks in mass quantities. I am not trying to talk about myself here.

[past]

By context, this seems to insinuate a lower standard, as if there is good frame of reference here.

What should we compare it to?


In fact there is a good frame of reference, that is, the number and percentage of people without health insurance by state, which is exactly the information I provided.

[Ranger Manges]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apMyjOAacyA

Sure, there are 49 other states in the Union, but they are smaller,
.

might want to look at that map of Alaska again

[Medic4070]

That's why there is A/c -- it's only too hot about 3, maybe 4 months of the year -- the rest of the time it's heaven :biggrin: You don't move here for the summers, you move here for the rest of the year. ;)

Seriously?! I've lived in Houston now for almost 5 years and it gets obnoxiously hot sometime in late April/early May and stays obscenely hot through the end of September and into October! Conservatively, that's 5 months where it just SUCKS here! But then again, I'm a transplanted Yankee who still likes snow, 4 seasons and cold weather. My die-hard native Texan friends all look at me like I'm crazy when I say that too. ;)

As a joke, I once asked a native Texan friend of mine if the "Texas pledge" was in Spanish and said while facing the Mexican flag. The non-Texan next to me just about fell out of his chair laughing while my friend just rolled her eyes, looked at me and said, "You're not from around here, are you?"

Now, having said all that...I don't have a problem with the Texas pledge or this weird Texas pride thing. Good for you guys for being proud of where you live. However, my personal opinion (and it's just that) is that we're all American's first and [insert whatever] next. Just my .02 though...

[cb88]

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/hlthin07/p60no235_table8.pdf

Texas, also where almost a quarter of the population has no health insurance.

http://www.taxadmin.org/fta/rate/06stl_pi.html

California, which on second look, doesn't have taxes quite as high as one might intuit from touted rhetoric.

Of course we also have ZERO personal state income tax and yet, which state has survived this recession the best??? Oh, that would be Texas :biggrin:

[cb88]

Seriously?! I've lived in Houston now for almost 5 years and it gets obnoxiously hot sometime in late April/early May and stays obscenely hot through the end of September and into October! Conservatively, that's 5 months where it just SUCKS here! But then again, I'm a transplanted Yankee who still likes snow, 4 seasons and cold weather. My die-hard native Texan friends all look at me like I'm crazy when I say that too. ;)

As a joke, I once asked a native Texan friend of mine if the "Texas pledge" was in Spanish and said while facing the Mexican flag. The non-Texan next to me just about fell out of his chair laughing while my friend just rolled her eyes, looked at me and said, "You're not from around here, are you?"

Now, having said all that...I don't have a problem with the Texas pledge or this weird Texas pride thing. Good for you guys for being proud of where you live. However, my personal opinion (and it's just that) is that we're all American's first and [insert whatever] next. Just my .02 though...

I grew up in So Cal -- born & raised OC for 22 years --moved to Illinois (downstate 7.5 years, Chicago 7.5 years) -- the humidity in Chicago is MUCH worse than the heat in the DFW area. :tongue: Now, you live in Houston -- my general rule when traveling for business is if I can at all avoid Houston between April and November, I do. :cool: Same with San Antonio -- too hot and it's much more humid in SA than here in FW.


I love seasons too --but in Chicago it was 6 months of cold & damp...eh, sometimes more -- October to May -- cold and rainy or snowy...sometimes both. I'd rather have 4 months HOT, 2 months mildly hot and 6 months of heaven- with a couple days of snow once in awhile.

[past]

Of course we also have ZERO personal state income tax and yet, which state has survived this recession the best??? Oh, that would be Texas :biggrin:

Well, it's disputable as to which state has fared the best/worst in recent times.

Here's a map that shows unemployment rates in June: http://www.bls.gov/web/mstrtcr1.gif

Of course, there are many other parameters by which the recession can be measured, but judging by unemployment rate certainly doesn't put Texas at the head in terms of either extreme.

[Fubar]

I'll refrain from jumping on the dogpile.

Houston is pretty damn hot. So is SA. But so what? That's why God invented A/C. I actually start hating winter months around January. I want my bones to be warm.

I can remember running in Ingleside on those Black Flag kind of days where the Navy would instruct us to limit outdoor activity due to excessive heat and humidity. Wusses. I know I'm forged from a hotter fire......

Great post of Bum's article Kay.

CB88 - I remember when Mission Viejo had grass covered hills with mighty oaks. Irvine had miles of open space cut into little squares bordered by eucalyptus trees. As kids, we'd ride our bikes for hours & then tempt fate by stealing a farmer's oranges. Rock Salt in the ass hurts. That So.Cal could compete with parts of TX, but its gone, replaced by billions of yards of concrete.

IrishSquid - I occasionally drive the beater too. Makes no sense throwing away a good truck or car that doesn't have A/C. Don't need to put on airs like them damn Yankees. :biggrin:

[MBTex]

JUST TEXAS

Pep , Texas 79353
Smiley , Texas 78159
Paradise , Texas 76073
Rainbow , Texas 76077
Sweet Home , Texas 77987
Comfort , Texas 78013
Friendship, Texas 76530

Love the Sun?
Sun City , Texas 78628
Sunrise , Texas 76661
Sunset, Texas 76270
Sundown, Texas 79372
Sunray , Texas 79086
Sunny Side , Texas 77423

Want something to eat?
Bacon , Texas 76301
Noodle , Texas 79536
Oatmeal , Texas 78605
Turkey , Texas 79261
Trout , Texas 75789
Sugar Land , Texas 77479
Salty, Texas 76567
Rice , Texas 75155
Pearland , Texas 77581
Orange , Texas 77630
And top it off with:
Sweetwater , Texas 79556

Why travel to other cities? Texas has them all!
Detroit , Texas 75436
Cleveland , Texas 75436
Colorado City , Texas 79512
Denver City , Texas 79323
Klondike , Texas 75448
Nevada , Texas 75173
Memphis , Texas 79245
Miami , Texas 79059
Boston , Texas 75570
Santa Fe , Texas 77517
Tennessee Colony , Texas 75861
Reno , Texas 75462
Pasadena , Texas 77506
Columbus , Texas 78934





Feel like traveling outside the country?
Athens , Texas 75751
Canadian, Texas 79014
China , Texas 77613
Egypt , Texas 77436
Ireland , Texas 76538
Italy , Texas 76538
Turkey , Texas 79261
London , Texas 76854
New London , Texas 75682
Paris , Texas 75460
Palestine , Texas 75801

No need to travel to Washington D.C.
Whitehouse , Texas 75791

We even have a city named after our planet!
Earth , Texas 79031



We have a city named after our state
Texas City , Texas 77590

Exhausted?
Energy , Texas 76452

Cold?
Blanket , Texas 76432
Winters, Texas

Like to read about History?
Santa Anna , Texas
Goliad , Texas
Alamo , Texas
Gun Barrel City , Texas
Robert Lee , Texas

Need Office Supplies?
Staples, Texas 78670

Want to go into outer space?
Venus , Texas 76084
Mars , Texas 79062

You guessed it. It's on the state line.
Texline , Texas 79087

For the kids...
Kermit , Texas 79745
Elmo , Texas 75118
Nemo , Texas 76070
Tarzan , Texas 79783
Winnie , Texas 77665
Sylvester , Texas 79560

Other city names in Texas , to make you smile......
Frognot , Texas 75424
Bigfoot , Texas 78005
Hogeye , Texas 75423
Cactus , Texas 79013
Notrees , Texas 79759
Best, Texas 76932
Veribest , Texas 76886
Kickapoo , Texas 75763
Dime Box , Texas 77853
Old Dime Box , Texas 77853
Telephone , Texas 75488
Telegraph , Texas 76883
Whiteface , Texas 79379
Twitty, Texas 79079

And last but not least, the Anti-Al Gore City
Kilgore , Texas 75662

And our favorites...
Cut n Shoot, Texas
Gun Barrell City , Texas
Hoop And Holler, Texas
Ding Dong, Texas and, of course,
Muleshoe , Texas

Here is what Jeff Foxworthy has to say about folks from Texas ...

If someone in a Lowe's store offers you assistance and they don't work there, you may live in Texas ;

If you've worn shorts and a parka at the same time, you may live in Texas ;

If you've had a lengthy telephone conversation with someone who dialed a wrong number, you may live in Texas ;

If 'Vacation' means going anywhere south of Dallas for the weekend, you may live in Texas ;

If you measure distance in hours, you may live in Texas ;

If you know several people who have hit a deer more than once, you may live in Texas ;



If you install security lights on your house and garage, but leave both unlocked, you may live in Texas ;

If you carry jumper cables in your car and your wife knows how to use them, you may live in Texas

If the speed limit on the highway is 55 mph --you're going 80 and everybody's passing you, you may live in Texas ;

If you find 60 degrees 'a little chilly,' you may live in Texas ;

If you actually understand these jokes, and share them with all your Texas friends, you definitely live in Texas ..

Here are some little known, very interesting facts about Texas .
1. Beaumont to El Paso : 742 miles
2.. Beaumont to Chicago : 770 miles
3... El Paso is closer to California than to Dallas
4. World's first rodeo was in Pecos , July 4, 1883.
5. The Flagship Hotel in Galveston is the only hotel in North America built over water. Destroyed by Hurricane Ike -2008!
6. The Heisman Trophy was named after John William Heisman who was the first full-time coach at Rice University in Houston .
7. Brazoria County has more species of birds than any other area in North America
8. Aransas Wildlife Refuge is the winter home of North America 's only remaining flock of whooping cranes.
9. Jalapeno jelly originated in Lake Jackson in 1978.
10. The worst natural disaster in U.S. history was in 1900, caused by a hurricane, in which over 8,000 lives were lost on Galveston Island .
11. The first word spoken from the moon, July 20,1969, was " Houston ," but the space center was actually in Clear Lake City at the time.
12. King Ranch in South Texas is larger than Rhode Island ..
13. Tropical Storm Claudette brought a U.S. rainfall record of 43' in 24 hours in and around Alvin in July of 1979...
14. Texas is the only state to enter the U.S. by TREATY, (known as the Constitution of 1845 by the Republic of Texas to enter the Union ) instead of by annexation. This allows the Texas Flag to fly at the same height as the U.S. Flag, and may divide into 5 states.
15. A Live Oak tree near Fulton is estimated to be 1500 years old.
16. Caddo Lake is the only natural lake in the state.
17. Dr Pepper was invented in Waco in 1885. There is no period in Dr Pepper..
18. Texas has had six capital cities:
Washington -on- the Brazos, Harrisburg , Galveston ,Velasco, West Columbia and Austin ..
19. The Capitol Dome in Austin is the only dome in the U.S. which is taller than the Capitol Building in Washington DC (by 7 feet).
20. The San Jacinto Monument is the tallest free standing monument in the world and it is taller than the Washington monument.
21. The name ' Texas ' comes from the Hasini Indian word 'tejas' meaning friends. Tejas is not Spanish for Texas ..
22. The State Mascot is the Armadillo (an interesting bit of trivia about the armadillo is they always have four babies. They have one egg, which splits into four, and they either have four males or four females.).
23. The first domed stadium in the U.S. was the Astrodome in Houston .



Cowboy's Ten Commandments posted on the wall at Cross Trails Church in Fairlie , Texas :
(1) Just one God.
(2) Honor yer Ma & Pa.
(3) No telling tales or gossipin'.
(4) Git yourself to Sunday meeting.
(5) Put nothin' before God.
(6) No foolin' around with another fellow's gal.
(7) No killin'.
(8) Watch yer mouth.
(9) Don't take what ain't yers.
(10) Don't be hankerin' for yer buddy's stuff.

[Tracy]

No Shoes, No Shorts, just Schertz.... Texas. :smile:

[Flying Pig]

I've heard this many times since moving to Texas nearly a decade ago...and almost without exception, from the same people who will get a serious case of the ass when racial or ethnic minorities consider themselves something else first, and Americans second. Funny how that works...

Not the same thing. Perhaps if I lived in a state that had something to be proud of, I'd probably do it too.

[RAT]

Seriously?! I've lived in Houston now for almost 5 years and it gets obnoxiously hot sometime in late April/early May and stays obscenely hot through the end of September and into October! Conservatively, that's 5 months where it just SUCKS here! But then again, I'm a transplanted Yankee who still likes snow, 4 seasons and cold weather. My die-hard native Texan friends all look at me like I'm crazy when I say that too. ;)

Even birds are smart enough to fly south for the winter.

I love it when people move here... Oh the Weather SUCKS.... Well get out of your A/C and go work outside and (As we called it in the Marines) get acclimatized. Ie. In the Oil Patch, Farming, Rodeo, Maritime, constuction...

Funny how I have worked here in the Oil patch and I have never thought it to hot...

As a joke, I once asked a native Texan friend of mine if the "Texas pledge" was in Spanish and said while facing the Mexican flag. The non-Texan next to me just about fell out of his chair laughing while my friend just rolled her eyes, looked at me and said, "You're not from around here, are you?"

Yes it is. Hence the 6 Flags over Texas. All of them have bering. We learn that in grade school.

Now, having said all that...I don't have a problem with the Texas pledge or this weird Texas pride thing. Good for you guys for being proud of where you live. However, my personal opinion (and it's just that) is that we're all American's first and [insert whatever] next. Just my .02 though...

As I tell everyone Welcome.

RO!!!

[MikeC2W]

You know why Oklahoma sucks?






wait for it....






Texas blows.

[Tracy]

Raise your State Hand if you killed a member of the Bin Laden Family:

1988: Salem bin Laden, half brother of Usama; died in wait-for-it... TEXAS!

Slackers :biggrin:

[Tracy]

How's this for crossovers? Lone Star to Star Trek: Gene Rodenberry, Brent Spiner and Michael Dorn. AKA Producer, Mr Data and Mr Worf. All from Texas. We got the cool ones...

[RAT]

http://www.census.gov/hhes/www/hlthins/hlthin07/p60no235_table8.pdf

Texas, also where almost a quarter of the population has no health insurance.

Don't need the health insurance because we have the best health centers in the world.

Texas has the only health centers that have one or more hospitials that are ranked in all 16 specialties. We may not be #1 in everyone. But We have hospitial that are ranked in everyone.

We have one stop shop. No one else in the world has that.

As for the healt care we have teaching hospitals were the uninsured go. I am proud to be uninsured. Why do I need it? If I get hurt I can pay full price. I do not see a reason on why I need to pay for something I might use once in 10yrs.

Want to change health care. Do it the Marine Corps way!!! Every 1/4 you have to do a PT test. People who can pass the test get HUGE advantages for being healthy. You don't pass well it is going to cost you..

California, which on second look, doesn't have taxes quite as high as one might intuit from touted rhetoric.

If California and NYC were expensive to live in they would not be the most populated areas in the US. People move there because it is affordable.

What no one talks about is where is the most exclusive areas to live...

No one wants to talk about that.


RO!!!

[RAT]

Blackjack would look great in Stetson in an Unmarked Car with a Texas Ranger Badge.

Because we all know.

The Texas Rangers are the oldest law enforcement organization on the North American continent with statewide jurisdiction

RO!!!

[Medic4070]

Yeah, it took me awhile to learn the acclimatization lessons. Now I make it a point to PT outside as much as I can, as long as I can to get used to the heat. Our team actually makes it a point to train in full kit on blazing hot days, just to get somewhat used to it. So, I've (slowly) learned to adapt to the heat...but it still sucks! Love me some A/C!

And, while I'm not a huge Texas fan, I DO have to hand it to Texas for one great innovation- the icehouse! Cold beer, bar food, roll-up garage doors and fans-my kind of place.

[Dirtpuppy]

If you measure distance in hours, you may live in Texas ;


God, ain't that the truth...anything more than 3 hours I need advance notice...

[Flying Pig]

CA is very expensive to live in, however, the wages are much higher. It not uncommon for some Police agencies to start an officer at $75-$80K per year. I look at some of the agencies around the country that I wouldnt mind working for in my second career and see that make half that topped out. But then again, a 3bdrm 2 bath house there isnt $300K.

[MikeC2W]

Raise your State Hand if you killed a member of the Bin Laden Family:

1988: Salem bin Laden, half brother of Usama; died in wait-for-it... TEXAS!

Slackers :biggrin:


That's awesome! lol

[RAT]

CA is very expensive to live in, however, the wages are much higher. It not uncommon for some Police agencies to start an officer at $75-$80K per year. I look at some of the agencies around the country that I wouldn't mind working for in my second career and see that make half that topped out. But then again, a 3bdrm 2 bath house there isnt $300K.

That is what I am talking about. A PVT in Ca makes the same as the PVT in Texas. Besides COLA why is there a difference?

LEO is LEO IMHO... They should have reciprocity more than they do now.

Texas Rangers on the other hand. LOL:biggrin:

RO!!!

[Blackjack78]

Texas Rangers on the other hand. LOL:biggrin:

RO!!!

The baseball team? I will hit my weight and take major league minimum. Thanks for setting it up Rat. :).

[Blackjack78]

Blackjack would look great in Stetson in an Unmarked Car with a Texas Ranger Badge.

Because we all know.

The Texas Rangers are the oldest law enforcement organization on the North American continent with statewide jurisdiction

RO!!!

Rat,

I look good in most anything. Yeah John, that would be a trip, me speaking Brooklynese and ya'll talkin whatever it is ya'll talk. There be a new Ranger in town lol.

Does the Rangers still do work or are they more political/symbolic? I know years ago I did some work w/them but was involving a fugitive.

I'll let you and Tracy hook me up w/a Ranger gig. I in turn will give you frre hotdogs and beers at the game ;).

[SOTB]

I just moved here to be able to legally shoot people....EXAMPLE (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/ap/tx/6603195.html). Of course, some might try and point out that in TX people break into homes armed -- I won't even respond to that simpleton stupidity.

Anyway, my point above stands....

[SOTB]

EXAMPLE (http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,546540,00.html?test=latestnews) of a counter to the great mindset of Texas.

Imagine charging a dude simply because he fired a cannonball into a neighbor's home? Damned Pennsylvanians....:biggrin:

[skyhawk691]

Here's what make's Texan's so unique beside's their Drawl.

TEXAS TALK (http://www.rice.edu/armadillo/Texas/talk.html)

[Greenhat]

I can tell there isn't one real deal on here, 'cause none of you called yourself "Texican"...

And anyone with a bit of history knows that's the real deal... :biggrin:

[Greenhat]

If California and NYC were expensive to live in they would not be the most populated areas in the US. People move there because it is affordable.

????????????

You obviously have never lived in New York City.

[BOFH]

I can tell there isn't one real deal on here, 'cause none of you called yourself "Texican"...

And anyone with a bit of history knows that's the real deal... :biggrin:


Heh...that's funny...I call the wife Texican, and she politely informs me that she is "Tejano."

[Kay]

Happening live right now....Friday night lights, beautiful West Texas sunset in
the background. Midland Lee Rebels VS Midland High Bulldogs. Texas at it's finest. ;)

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs216.snc1/8317_102299436451430_100000141224735_65560_2319658 _n.jpg

Photo taken by my friend Eric Sanchez.

[Greenhat]

Heh...that's funny...I call the wife Texican, and she politely informs me that she is "Tejano."

Well, at least she gets it!!

[Dirtpuppy]

????????????

You obviously have never lived in New York City.

No shit, my buddys apartment in Manhattan is the size of my kitchen and he pays twice as much...

[Medic4070]

Ok...can one of you native Texans explain what the hell the deal is with high school football down here? I mean, I was into high school football too...when I was in high school. Kinda lost interest after I graduated. But down here, it's practically a religion. Anyone care to explain? Not knocking it, just a little mystified!

[TXSWAT]

I was just going to post the same thing.

I got rankled because it's Texas that the post is about and, well, fuck Texas, but I do wish we were more state-oriented than Nationally oriented.

right back at you big boy :)

[Kay]

Ok...can one of you native Texans explain what the hell the deal is with high school football down here? I mean, I was into high school football too...when I was in high school. Kinda lost interest after I graduated. But down here, it's practically a religion. Anyone care to explain? Not knocking it, just a little mystified!

As we Texans like to boast - my granddad had the honor in 1921 of kicking off (litterly with his foot) the very first football ever kicked by the brand newly opened high school in Wink, Tx. He was honored at an all school reunion when he was in his 80's about a year before he died, as the first varsity letterman of the Wink Wildcats. His team picture from 1921 with them wearing leather helments is seen in a lot of historical books written about Wink.

Years later his son (my dad) had the honor of being the first ever son of a Wink Wildcat to play; I have the news clippings of this, it was front page story in the Winker Co News. During his high school years Wink won the State Championship. His jacket still hangs in my closet as we speak with the state patches on it.

My brother played, my son played, my nephew played. It is both religion and it is legacy. Especially out here in West Tx, where there is nothing else to do. Out here it's not like in East Tx (anything east of Snyder ;)). Out here you leave the edge of one town, and then see nothing but pasture till you hit the edge of the next town 75 miles away. There aren't any little patches of settlement and homes in between like in the east. So the Friday night pilgramage to a neighboring town is also a weekly family outing, where half the town loads up and carvans behind the school bus to go watch the hometeam play. If you fly over West Tx on a dark Friday night about 10:30 - 11:00 PM in the fall you will no doubt wonder what the odd snakes of lights are here and there in the otherwise vast darkness. That would be half the population of a town driving home after a game. And a fun time is had by all. The road trips are half the fun.

True story....on one occasion a couple of years ago driving to a game in Big Lake, Tx to watch my nephew play for Kermit, it was just after dark and I was running late about to miss the kickoff. About 10 miles out, I'm going 88 on a dark road in the middle of nowhere, and there a DPS officer crap. He asks where I'm heading, and I say 'the game'. He doesn't have to ask what that means. He asks if I have someone playing, I say my nephew. He says well slow it down and I'm letting you off with a warning that Big Lake's gonna win. We shook hands and I thanked him. Reason #1289 why I love living in Texas.

[SGTROCK]

Been in Texas for 4 years and just cant get into it so thats why Iam moving back to Cali in 2 weeks. Say all you want about Cali but its home and Iam homesick!!

Rock

[Dirtpuppy]

Ok...can one of you native Texans explain what the hell the deal is with high school football down here? I mean, I was into high school football too...when I was in high school. Kinda lost interest after I graduated. But down here, it's practically a religion. Anyone care to explain? Not knocking it, just a little mystified!

In a nutshell, theres so many small isolated towns with small isolated school districts that have football teams. All the townsfolks know each other, hence they all know the children, so going to see the kids play football gives people something to do. It really is a religion. My west Texas town sucks, so the turnout was usually pretty low.

[Outofcontrol]

The Texas Rangers are the oldest law enforcement organization on the North American continent with statewide jurisdiction.

RO!!!

Brother RAT--

One modest addition...

I don't care what the USMS says, our Texas Rangers are also the oldest, still functional, FEDERAL Law Enforcement organization as the Rangers had Law Enforcement authority throughout the Republic, BEFORE we treatied into statehood, making them a FEDERAL LE agency at time of treaty.

Also, the Texas legislature is bi-cameral to provide checks and balances among the three branches of government. And the rest of the State government was formed along the lines of of a free standing government, so that if Texas did ever secede, government services could continue uninterupted...complete with a Supreme Court headed by the chief Justice, DoJ, headed by the Attorney General, DoS headed by the SecState, DoD Headed by the Adj. General of the Armed Forces of Texas.

And as was mentioned earlier, as per the state constitution, Texas was treatied into the US, and should the state so desire, it can become a republic again, and can divide into 5 seperate states.

MAN, I LOVE TEXAS!!

OOC, out

[skeeter8654]

I'd say allegiance to your home state over the nation itself is a very American belief to hold.

Having said that, I haven't been anywhere were there is a more genuine and passionate sense of patriotism and National pride than in Texas. So I'd say the patriotism of your average Texan isn't in conflict with a Texas first mentality.

-a non-Texan

[Longrifle]

Another tidbit of trivia about Texas Rangers involves their circled star silver badge and what is used to make it.

A Mexican coin.

[TXSWAT]

I remember when our high school played another in the quarter finals of the state high school football play-offs (1989). 33,000 people at that game...playing in Texas stadium. Sweet.

We have chips that are shaped like our state. Sweet.

Sadly, we don't have anymore land though. The housing market is horrible right now and I've heard of several people moving for a better job market in Michigan or New Jersey or somewhere.

We'll let you know when there are anymore openings.

[koreamarine]

Texas first?? Sure - if you are a citizen of Texas- which is one of the united States of America.

Uruguayan - American? Sorry pal- if you move from Uruguay to the USA, and get naturalized, keep the culture, keep the memories, keep the friends, but now you are an American- and a citizen of your state. We are 50 sovereign states under one flag- each bringing its own diversity- and that diversity, when focused on common goals as a nation as laid down by our founders IS indeed a strength- kinda like the synergy of combined arms, on a national political level.

[RAT]

????????????

You obviously have never lived in New York City.

NYC is not that bad.

NYC (New York Manhattan) has the Per Cap Income of $42,922.

Harris County Tx Houston, Texas has the Per Cap Income of $20,101

This is from a dear friend of mine who lives in NYC now and they compaired life styles.

Have to have to live in NYC Have to have to live in Houston.


NYC Houston Tx

Car/Truck Note None 24,000 / 450 a month

Gas per week None 45.00/ 157.50 a month

Car insurance None 150 a month



Apt Rent
(Comp to Area) 3350 800Sq 2800 800 Sq

Electric 50 per month 150 per month

Water 30 per month 30 per month

Food 1000 per month 1000 per month


Total 4430 4737.5

Living in the same types of areas... Upper East Side NYC to Post Oak Blvd.

NYC you make more than you do in Houston. Houston and place in Texas have not sur passed NYC and LA because it is still cheaper to live in those cities as a whole. If we had a better mass trans I think Texas/ Houston would blow up like nothing anyone has ever seen.

RO!!!

[mdb23]

Rat,

Having relatives currently living in in NYC, I have to disagree with your analysis. NYC has (I believe) the highest or second highest cost of living in the US...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26127239/ns/business-local_business/

I just did some googling, and housing is 68% cheaper in Houston than in NYC. Overall, it is 48% cheaper to live in Houston than NYC.

Of course, if you factor in $750 for car payments/insurance and gas for Houston, but then just assume that you don't need these things in NYC, you are going to screw the numbers......but that isn't a true cost of living comparison. You would have to figure in transportation costs in NYC as well (cab fare, car rentals for trips, etc.)....or, to be perfectly fair, you would have to compare no car to no car......

You have to use averages for the rent as well.......you can't just use one apt from Houston and one from NYC. If I take the most expensive apartment in KC, and compare it to the cheapest in NYC, then I could argue that KC is more expensive than NYC....but we both know that isnt true.

Houston is expensive....nobody is disputing that. BUt it isn't more expensive than NY.

[MikeC2W]

Rat,

Having relatives currently living in in NYC, I have to disagree with your analysis. NYC has (I believe) the highest or second highest cost of living in the US...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26127239/ns/business-local_business/

I just did some googling, and housing is 68% cheaper in Houston than in NYC. Overall, it is 48% cheaper to live in Houston than NYC.

Of course, if you factor in $750 for car payments/insurance and gas for Houston, but then just assume that you don't need these things in NYC, you are going to screw the numbers......but that isn't a true cost of living comparison. You would have to figure in transportation costs in NYC as well (cab fare, car rentals for trips, etc.)....or, to be perfectly fair, you would have to compare no car to no car......

You have to use averages for the rent as well.......you can't just use one apt from Houston and one from NYC. If I take the most expensive apartment in KC, and compare it to the cheapest in NYC, then I could argue that KC is more expensive than NYC....but we both know that isnt true.

Houston is expensive....nobody is disputing that. BUt it isn't more expensive than NY.

Concur.

[Greenhat]

Apt Rent
(Comp to Area) 3350 800Sq

800 square foot apartment on the upper East Side for $3350 a month? Where? In Spanish Harlem?

[Fubar]

800 square foot apartment on the upper East Side for $3350 a month? Where? In Spanish Harlem?

Got to be rent controlled.....

You can have a 5000 square foot McMansion in Texas for that kind of money.

[Greenhat]

Got to be rent controlled.....


Good point... which means that it is NOT available to most people.

[RAT]

Got to be rent controlled.....

You can have a 5000 square foot McMansion in Texas for that kind of money.

Like I said then you have to furnish it, hire a lawn guy per week, AC that bitch, house keeper one full time or 2 part time, your electric bill, water bill, homer owners assoc.. Ect... I can go on...

Don't know about rent control" http://www.nestseekers.com/ForRent/Loft/Manhattan

That is where my friend found hers.

RO!!!

[RAT]

Rat,

Having relatives currently living in in NYC, I have to disagree with your analysis. NYC has (I believe) the highest or second highest cost of living in the US...

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26127239/ns/business-local_business/

I just did some googling, and housing is 68% cheaper in Houston than in NYC. Overall, it is 48% cheaper to live in Houston than NYC.

Of course, if you factor in $750 for car payments/insurance and gas for Houston, but then just assume that you don't need these things in NYC, you are going to screw the numbers......but that isn't a true cost of living comparison. You would have to figure in transportation costs in NYC as well (cab fare, car rentals for trips, etc.)....or, to be perfectly fair, you would have to compare no car to no car......

You have to use averages for the rent as well.......you can't just use one apt from Houston and one from NYC. If I take the most expensive apartment in KC, and compare it to the cheapest in NYC, then I could argue that KC is more expensive than NYC....but we both know that isnt true.

No I took the comps from area to area. Hence why I said Uptown Houston Vice. Tomball, Katy, Cy Fair, Sugar Land or some other place in what is considered Houston

The Houston–Sugar Land–Baytown metropolitan area has a total area of 8,929 sq. mi. is land area. We just have more land to put people who do not make as much. And we have industry in those areas but people have to travel, because we do not have mass transit in those areas. So a noraml comute in town is about 60 miles one way. 120 per day round trip.

I do agree with you and Fag Mike. But when you break it down to area through out the US everytown has an expensive place. NYC is just condensed in one area. But the poor in KC could not afford to live in NYC same as Texas. But you take the people with the most means and other fat cats from other areas...They can afford it any where... The Waltons don't have a problem living in Arkansas but they can have one or two buildings in Manhattan as well.

That is all I am saying. I think I came across wrong. For the Avg Joe yes NYC is out of their means. But if you take someone who is a PHD, MBA, Some sort of degree or just hungry... Well they will get paid well enough to live in that area and not have problem.

Hence why I said per person it is not the most expensive place to live because they don't have ditch diggers living next to CEO's like you do in Houston / Texas.

RO!!!

[RAT]

Here is a good article about it but as you can read he never has lived here. I went to Memorial High School in Spring Branch but that school the kids come from Piney Point, Bunker Hill, and Hedwig Villege.. Would love to see a 200K house there...

You can go to www.har.com (http://www.har.com) and type in zip code 77024. The houses are big and don't cost a lot compaired but they are all teardowns.

Here is the article:

http://www.city-journal.org/2008/18_3_houston.html

RO!!!

[Spinner]

Raise your State Hand if you killed a member of the Bin Laden Family:

1988: Salem bin Laden, half brother of Usama; died in wait-for-it... TEXAS!

Slackers :biggrin:

Isn't that the brother that flew his ultralight into a high power line on takeoff?