Let it begin!

[Husker19D30]

And so the 2009 college football season begins in earnest.

Let me just take this opportunity to say Go Big Red!! :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jDED6eUlbMk


Section 32, Row 98 Seat 5

[Lagnaippe]

Yah....I wore red and white yesterday...Although I now live in LSU territory, I'll never be able to take the Husker out of my psyche. Growing up in Lincoln in the early 70s...there was nothing like watching the Goodyear blimp from my front yard and listening to the crowd roar as Nebraska crushed every opponent! My father would listen to the Nebraska game on the radio and simultaneously watch another game on TV with the sound down. I, of course, was on beer duty...Hamms. Grandma drank her beer "red."

[jane]

Thank you for posting this. It gets the juices flowing. Now I might spring for the pay per view cost.

[low country]

SUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!

[GST]

GO BIG RED!!!!

[gryan1966]

GO BUCKS all though for this game I am rooting for NAVY to kick some azz

[Highspeed160th]

Go Buckeyes!

[Balls]

Go Buckeyes!

9157

[redhawk]

It appears that the Buckeye Couch and Dumpster Burning mob has arrived!

Go Irish!
Go RedHawks!

[TPD1280]

WOO PIG SOOUIE!

[Fubar]

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/tex/graphics/fb-wallpaper/010509_ohiostate/fb_roy_miller_1280.jpg

[Sltwtr1]

GO GATORS!

If you ain't a GATOR your GATOR Bait!!!!


Back to Back BCS championships baby!!!!


Sltwtr1

OUT

[19MIKE]

Best time of year!

Nothing like a beautiful fall afternoon spent outside at a local ballgame....and still be home in time for the SEC and PAC-10 nights.

I'll make a few games this year....UCONN, Army, some high school, hell even Pee-Wee is fun.

[wowzers]

After working every Saturday last year, I am loving it. Even if they don't play Vol games in Idaho.

[Domino]

http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/tex/graphics/fb-wallpaper/010509_ohiostate/fb_roy_miller_1280.jpg

The Eyes of Texas Are Upon You, too.
Go, 'horns, Go!

\m/

UT 1968

[eltrane]

Navy gave OH St. a great game. That last play for Navy...anyway, great game.

[Fubar]

Navy gave OH St. a great game. That last play for Navy...anyway, great game.

Concur. Good showing by Navy against the #6 team in the Nation. That rating is now questionable.

[Highspeed160th]

I hope Navy really turns out be good! Cuz OSU looked bad.

[Snake]

Ole Miss is destined to rule the SEC.

[redhawk]

GO IRISH!
Let's see what can happen this year. 10 wins or goodbye Charlie.
Please don't do to me this year what you've been doing to me since the Bob Davie curse.

[Spinner]

And so the 2009 college football season begins in earnest.

Or as I like to call it, Triple A football, the feeder system for the NFL.

I've got another idea to smash the wall down between the college and pro games, and the notion that the top players in the NCAA are amateurs, just out for a good college education.

At the beginning of the season, the NFL will conduct their draft of college players by conducting a lottery of the top 32 ranked college teams.

Each of the NFL teams will pick a college team out of a drawing, and that will become their "farm" team. Halfway through the season, all the teams will select a certain number of players from their team that they wish to keep, and the rest will go in a pool that will be available for teams to select on the NFL's regular draft day, which will now be called the supplemental draft.

Every other player in college, regardless of their talents and abilities, will be considered free agents, and can sign with any team they want.

That might even get me interested in both games again.

[tnkspe119]

GO BIG BLUE!!! Shit, this year has gotta be better than last year...

[jane]

Damn. Missouri looked good. Nebraska might have some competition.

[SVDuckman]

Go Hogs, Go!
WOO PIG SOOUIE!


Let's hope not
Ole Miss is destined to rule the SEC.

[smoked]

VOLUNTEERS!!!!!!!

[bmbsqd]

1-0 Baby!

[jsmurphy]

DAMN!

GA did not look good today. Turnovers killed them, and the receivers dropped too many passes. Defense looked OK, but they aren't ready for Bama and the rest of the SEC.

[eyezweat]

Ole Miss is destined to rule the SEC.


That's a big ladder to climb, but Nutt is one determined f-ker. When they beat Fla., Bama, LSU, Ga, of course the Hogs and maybe now the Vols, we may see it.
Damn, the Vols looked good today early on.

Me, I'm just a life-long suffering Gamecock fan. Down with the ship......:rolleyes:
But I do love SEC Football.

[bmbsqd]

DAMN!

GA did not look good today. Turnovers killed them, and the receivers dropped too many passes. Defense looked OK, but they aren't ready for Bama and the rest of the SEC.

Yep...they suck! And I'll tell you what, it is sadly glorious to see them lose because living in GA you are surrounded by Dawgs fans. My wife, kids, family....EVERYONE!

When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Roosevelt high rise directly across from the GT stadium. My brother and I would sit and watch the games from her living window. Of course as I grew it became GT games and rock concerts like the Champagne Jam. That was the first time I say Ted Nugent...from my grandmother's living room window!

One of the reasons GT has never taken off is because the stadium is in downtown Atlanta...no tailgating! :mad:

Go Jackets!

[TPD1280]

Razorbacks first kickoff return of the year was a 91 yard run to the end zone!

GO HOGS, GO!

[Wootnik]

ROLL TIDE

Defense looks great, Offense stepped it up in the 2nd half but still didn't compare to the defense. But that was sort of expected.

[MRLOL]

LeGarrette Blount incident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kk-LQ5IgI

Not good :(

[Longrifle]

LeGarrette Blount incident.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p0kk-LQ5IgI

Not good :(

HTF is one kicked off a team, but allowed to keep a scholarship and continue to practice?:rolleyes:

[taevatt]

Although a small part of me died when Fulmer left, I've been a Vol since the day I was born and always will be. As much as I hate the fact that Lane Kiffin brought his drama to UT, he made a pretty damn big statement yesterday. Should be an interesting season...especially with UGA losing to OK State :)

[Sharky]

Ole Miss is destined to rule the SEC.




Heheh.....hahahahaha......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH



Maybe if LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Florida get put in some other conference. :biggrin:



GEAUX Tigers!

[Devildoc]

Me, I'm just a life-long suffering Gamecock fan.

They didn't look so hot against NC State. I wish they handed NCSU their collective butts on a platter. I dislike NC State.

Opening day observations:

The real deal: Texas, Florida, Tenn, Penn State. The probably-real deal: USC. Question marks: Alabama (they should have won that game a lot earlier than they did), Ohio State (WAY overrated), Notre Dame, UNC. The probably screwed: Oklahoma.

Of course, my alma mater is C-USA 'powerhouse' East Carolina, so what do I know??

[eyezweat]

They didn't look so hot against NC State. I wish they handed NCSU their collective butts on a platter. I dislike NC State.

Opening day observations:

The real deal: Texas, Florida, Tenn, Penn State. The probably-real deal: USC. Question marks: Alabama (they should have won that game a lot earlier than they did), Ohio State (WAY overrated), Notre Dame, UNC. The probably screwed: Oklahoma.

Of course, my alma mater is C-USA 'powerhouse' East Carolina, so what do I know??


No love for the Wolfpack here either, but at least Coach Tom O'Brien is a Naval Academy Grad. and served 9 yrs. in the Marine Corps. I respect him for that.
Didn't you forget Oklahoma State? I liked how they handled being pushed up against the wall by GA early in the game. Of course GA was in no way stellar.
Big 12 is looking really tough this yr., as usual.....GO SEC!

[eyezweat]

Heheh.....hahahahaha......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH



Maybe if LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Florida get put in some other conference. :biggrin:



GEAUX Tigers!

I got a kick as well.
Hope the Tigers didn't come in contact with any of the 2,000 +/- reported cases of H1N1 swine flu while visiting WA State.

[TPD1280]

GEAUX Tigers!

that was ghey.


:biggrin:

[Snake]

Memphis, TN (Sports Network) - Jevan Snead threw for 175 yards, two touchdowns and a pair of interceptions on 12-of-22 efficiency, as No. 8 Ole Miss pulled away late to crush Memphis, 45-14, in the season opener for both teams.


Good start.

[Snake]

http://www.complex.com/blogs/2009/09/03/the-50-most-brutal-college-football-hits/50/

50 Most Brutal College Football Hits.

#1 is.....memorable.

[8Ball]

Heheh.....hahahahaha......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH



Maybe if LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Florida get put in some other conference. :biggrin:



GEAUX Tigers!

SO TRUE!
And, Go Tigers! (The other Tigers!:biggrin:)
And, by that, I mean.....
WAR DAMN EAGLE!!
Sorry Sharky. Had to do it...:biggrin:

[Wootnik]

http://www.complex.com/blogs/2009/09/03/the-50-most-brutal-college-football-hits/50/

50 Most Brutal College Football Hits.

#1 is.....memorable.

There were some hits in there that really shouldn't be in a list of top 50 hits. Although anytime a hit makes the guy puke it will be up there.

[Steve83]

Arizona State 50
Idaho State 03

Off to a good start.....

[redhawk]

“Not everybody is a perfect person in the world. Everyone kills people, murders people, steals from you, steals from me, whatever. I just feel that people need to give him a chance. I always looked up to Mike Vick, and I always will. I still think he’s one of the best quarterbacks to me. I love Mike Vick.” -Terrelle Pryor

I love it when the University of Ohio State shows off their winners.

[Husker19D30]

NU 49 FAU 3

Coach Pelini says they look good, but still have a lot of work to do. Lots of folks would sit on their asses and laugh their heads off after such a victory. I'm not sure Bo even cracked a smile during post-game interviews.

But I was smiling!

[GST]

NU 49 FAU 3

Coach Pelini says they look good, but still have a lot of work to do. Lots of folks would sit on their asses and laugh their heads off after such a victory. I'm not sure Bo even cracked a smile during post-game interviews.

But I was smiling!

I'll withhold my chest-pounding until we beat VT in a couple of weeks. It was good, however to see the number of freshmen out there getting some work this weekend.

Overall, not bad for a season's opening effort. They say that the most improvement is made between a season's first and second games so I hope to see a lot of the little miscues cleaned up during this week's practices.

[rgrjoe175]

NU 49 FAU 3

Coach Pelini says they look good, but still have a lot of work to do. Lots of folks would sit on their asses and laugh their heads off after such a victory. I'm not sure Bo even cracked a smile during post-game interviews.

But I was smiling!

Does that even count in their record?

FAU, decent college my son attends but as he stated. Dad we have a football team with a great coach. We would have a halfway team decent if we were playing the local high schools.

JP

[Joe33]

GO IRISH!
Let's see what can happen this year. 10 wins or goodbye Charlie.
Please don't do to me this year what you've been doing to me since the Bob Davie curse.

Go IRISH! Here's hopin' they can keep that level of strooong execution all year. Great performance on Saturday but both lines must strive for improvement every week.

And I'm still giving the game ball to NAVY! To all OSU fans, players, coaches etc. Welcome to our world. Maybe now folks will think twice before always ripping on ND for playing Navy.

Looks like it could be one hell of an interesting year...

[I'm Lost]

ROLL TIDE

Defense looks great, Offense stepped it up in the 2nd half but still didn't compare to the defense. But that was sort of expected.

I agree but we got to cut McElroy some slack. First game for the team against a ranked opponent. I'm sure he had a lot on his mind. The defense was impressive as was VA Tech's. I thought it was an awesome game.

[heavyguns1/1]

HOOK EM HORNS

[Titleist]

Arizona State 50
Idaho State 03

Off to a good start.....

ASU (77) grad here and AZ native. Keep your expectations in check here amigo. Idaho State was 1-11 last year. They're also "Big Sky." :rolleyes:

[Wootnik]

I am not an OSU or USC fan but I do hope OSU pulls this out.

[ET1/ss nuke]

Amazing game tonight between South Carolina and Georgia. My Gamecocks lost, but I'm still impressed with what they showed tonight. With Tennessee also losing and Florida still playing high school teams, SC still has a shot in the SEC East.

[eyezweat]

Amazing game tonight between South Carolina and Georgia. My Gamecocks lost, but I'm still impressed with what they showed tonight. With Tennessee also losing and Florida still playing high school teams, SC still has a shot in the SEC East.


Agreed. Garcia would like that last decision "to throw" back, I'm sure.
They might just have a shot, slim, but a shot. They did look to almost have an offense, something they've lacked for a long time.
Florida is almost done playing "pink-panty U's" and High School ball and should show some reality soon. I'm betting the reality is still strong enough to beat almost anyone. At least they're SEC.

[SVDuckman]

I saw a bumper sticker last year that read, "If Lance Armstrong can win without a Nutt, so can the Razorbacks."

I can't help it...I'll always be a Razorback fan.

[spectr17]

Like watching baby seals getting clubbed.

http://hphotos-snc1.fbcdn.net/hs250.snc1/9717_1198850941363_1531212907_519610_579908_n.jpg

[Husker19D30]

Wow, Miami looks REALLY good!

[RGR.Montcalm]

GO GATORS!

If you ain't a GATOR your GATOR Bait!!!!


Back to Back BCS championships baby!!!!


Sltwtr1

OUT

X1,000,000

The FLORIDA GATORS AND THE TIM TEBOW SHOW

[Fubar]

I'd like to see FL vs TX in the BCS championship. I'll be rooting for the 'Horns, but I never bet against the SEC.

[wowzers]

X1,000,000

The FLORIDA GATORS AND THE TIM TEBOW SHOW[/SIZE]

As much as I love Tennessee, Kiffin was dumb to run his mouth. I have a feeling it is going to be brutal.

[18Dwife]

HOTTY TODDY

[Wootnik]

GO HUSKIES!!!!!


ROLL TIDE!!!!

[Husker19D30]

Ouch. 16-15 Va Tech in the last minute. That really really hurt.

[gryan1966]

While OSU should have taken USC to the can they get stomped and an unranked team takes them out YES I love football. What Im wondering now is last week OSU went from 8th to 11 getting beat by the number 3 team, how much you want to bet that USC will not fall out of the top 10 getting beat by an unranked team. That is what I cannot stand about the BCS.

[SVDuckman]

Damn, Razorbacks played a good game but just couldn't get the job done. But still, what a game! I honestly think that Coach Petrino has made some significant improvements with the Razorbacks.

[Fubar]

While OSU should have taken USC to the can they get stomped and an unranked team takes them out YES I love football. What Im wondering now is last week OSU went from 8th to 11 getting beat by the number 3 team, how much you want to bet that USC will not fall out of the top 10 getting beat by an unranked team. That is what I cannot stand about the BCS.

Agree USC won't fall out of the top ten. They deserve to after lossing to an unranked team.

My 'Horns were not all that impressive over TT, but a win is a win.

[gryan1966]

Agree USC won't fall out of the top ten. They deserve to after lossing to an unranked team.

My 'Horns were not all that impressive over TT, but a win is a win.

Watched that last night it was a good game from what I saw.

[gryan1966]

What pisses me off the most is how OSU plays their game JT is a great coach but he is so conservative that it hurts sometimes. The Buckeyes get no respect from the BCS and in some ways I can see why and its hard to watch them barely win over some scrub team.

I was glad they tromped Toledo cause they needed to do that. I was especially happy when USC got their peepees whacked LOL

[RAT]

Agree USC won't fall out of the top ten. They deserve to after lossing to an unranked team.

My 'Horns were not all that impressive over TT, but a win is a win.

At home in front of 110+K largest college crowed to see a football game in the state... They should have beat the snot out of TTU.

But a win is a win. If it is Texas and FL in the Champ game. It should be pretty good.

I wonder who is going to run the table.

Bosie runs the table... Do they deserve a shot?

RO!!!

[Wootnik]

USC Ranked number 12. SEC has 4 in the top 10.

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida (55) 3-0 1488
2 Texas (2) 3-0 1428
3 Alabama (3) 3-0 1390
4 Mississippi 2-0 1213
5 Penn State 3-0 1212
6 California 3-0 1169
7 LSU 3-0 1120
8 Boise State 3-0 1038
9 Miami (FL) 2-0 920
10 Oklahoma 2-1 862
11 Virginia Tech 2-1 852
12 USC 2-1 825
13 Ohio State 2-1 810
14 Cincinnati 3-0 739
15 TCU 2-0 674
16 Oklahoma State 2-1 478
17 Houston 2-0 455
18 Florida State 2-1 363
19 Brigham Young 2-1 349
20 Kansas 3-0 347
21 Georgia 2-1 318
22 North Carolina 3-0 271
23 Michigan 3-0 247
24 Washington 2-1 194
25 Nebraska 2-1 13

[Devildoc]

If Boise wins out, they should have a shot. They won't, but they should. The top 10 is about right, USC, Houston, and UNC and Va Tech are too high.

[RAT]

If Boise wins out, they should have a shot. They won't, but they should. The top 10 is about right, USC, Houston, and UNC and Va Tech are too high.

I don't know about Va Tech or UNC... I do think USC and My Coogs are right on the money.

UH has one of the best teams I have seen there since I played in the Run and Shoot days.

RO!!!

[Devildoc]

UH has one of the best teams I have seen there since I played in the Run and Shoot days.

RO!!!

Houston reminds me of ECU from last year with a quality win over a highly-ranked opponent (but with much better offense...man, UH's QB is solid). I think should UH win a few more games against quality teams, then OK. Like ECU, they are hamstrung by their conference, but I don't believe they are the 17th best team in the country.

[MBTex]

Go Coogs!!

[RGR.Montcalm]

I watched the Gators vs Vols game Sat and was disappointed that the game was as close as it was.

The fumble/stripping by Tebow was pretty lame, and I was really pissed off when FLA was hit with the 'excess celebration' 15yd penalty but the Vols were not when they sacked Tebow later...

FLA won on Tebow's back and their passing game was nearly non-existent. This game broke a 30 game streak for Tebow passing for a touchdown.

Might be a rough year for the Gators...

[19MIKE]

I'm not a huge 'Canes fan but......

I gotta say, they look damn good. New Off and Def coordinators...utilizing all that talent, and they're young too. I think they have 57 freshman and sophomores on the team.

The handled FSU and Ga Tech., a couple of pretty good football teams with speed....they just flat wore them out.

Miami is the team to watch.

[Domino]

Agree USC won't fall out of the top ten. They deserve to after lossing to an unranked team.

My 'Horns were not all that impressive over TT, but a win is a win.

Having watched the 'horns for most of the last 60 years, 4 of them up really close, I have come to realize that there are usually two Texas squads.

One squad blocks and tackles with precision. Runs are always straight ahead and often right over would-be tacklers usually for near first down yardage or more. Passes are crisp and sure, never tipped and rarely intercepted. Nobody can run or pass on this squad enough to get many drives together. Scoring on them is usually the result of an uncommon and infrequent mistake by the offense. Like Darrell Royal said, "It's hard to lose when the other team can't score!" Most games are won by more than 35 points.

The other squad looks like the JV at some obscure high school. They miss tackles, can't remember blocking assignments, and if they do, they are so slow that by the time they get there, the blockee is long gone, usually getting up from making the tackle. Passing is fraught with excitement, the ball wobbling through the air, careening around in unpredictable directions. Runners are most often stopped in their tracks and a first down is a rarity, unless the other team is off-sides or roughs the passer. This is the squad that gets whipped 66-0 by UCLA, or eaks out a narrow loss to a nobody opponent. This squad loses both it's All American O-lineman and starting QB on the same play, both injured vainly trying to stop a runner with an intercepted pass from scoring. Even Bevo sells his seats to these games!

Trouble is you can never be sure which squad it was that gets on the bus.

If the 'horns can make it past OU, they may have a good chance.

\m/

[RAT]

Houston reminds me of ECU from last year with a quality win over a highly-ranked opponent (but with much better offense...man, UH's QB is solid). I think should UH win a few more games against quality teams, then OK. Like ECU, they are hamstrung by their conference, but I don't believe they are the 17th best team in the country.

If we were in the Big 12 We would be ranked a lot higher and people would not be questioning the team.

Being part of Conf USA kills us, I agree. We lose to Tulsa, SMU, Southern Miss... There goes our rankings even though any of these teams could beat a BCS team on any given Sat.

The BCS is a FUCKED deal and they have hamstrung the other conferences. There are only 85 Players per team. Not all of them go to the BCS schools like they used to. The BCS is trying to put a crush on the Non-BCS schools. Unless the teams go undefeated a team a Non BCS team will never be rated highly.

I find it funny that BYU 20 yrs ago could win the Nat'l Championship, and be a highly ranked team.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/01/03/sports/writers-poll-top-20-teams-associated-press-s-college-football-poll-sportswriters.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:1985_Big_8_football_standings

I can not find anything about the old SWC standings or other conferences from that time. (My google fu is not good today)

But just from the 2 postings from 1985 you can see the favortism there is by the Conf and Coaches polls... OU saying they are Nat'l Champs and BYU going 13-0... Nat'l Champs.

It is all BS... Div II has the only true Nat'l Championship. DI is a still a BS decision on who is going to be the Nat'l Champ.

PLF Off my soap box.


RO!!!
llnl

[Wootnik]

For all those watching the Kentucky vs Florida game. All I can say is Wow nice hit.

[MacDuff]

For all those watching the Kentucky vs Florida game. All I can say is Wow nice hit.


I'm a mile away from the stadium and still heard the roar of the crowd. I'm hoping he's all right though. I wanted him to have a bad game tonight, not get hurt.

[Wootnik]

They said he just got his bell rung, which I am surprised it hasn't happened before.

[Wootnik]

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/sports_college/2009/09/video-tebow-gets-knocked-out-of-the-game-against-kentucky.html

This has the video of it.

[redhawk]

Notre Dame is going to give me a heart attack at the age of 23.
Sonofabitch.

[foxcolt13]

Well well well Va. Tech beat Miami that shouold put them up to about 7 or 8 in BCS ranking , right on. I have to admit I'm surprised.:biggrin:

[Wootnik]

yeah, makes the Tide look that much better. Roll Tide

[foxcolt13]

I was pulling for bama too, it makes the hokies look better for the tide to keep winning. I hope they meet again this year, things will be different, I hope. They will have there game together much better than they did in the first game, they were ugly.

[Longrifle]

Speaking of the Tide, we had a pork-pulling yesterday. Lotsa leftover BBQ'd razorback left.

[Devildoc]

Well well well Va. Tech beat Miami that shouold put them up to about 7 or 8 in BCS ranking , right on. I have to admit I'm surprised.:biggrin:

Yeah, but unfortunately, the best of the ACC really doesn't mean much.

Congrats to Houston for winning a tough game.

[Devildoc]

If we were in the Big 12 We would be ranked a lot higher and people would not be questioning the team.

Being part of Conf USA kills us, I agree. We lose to Tulsa, SMU, Southern Miss... There goes our rankings even though any of these teams could beat a BCS team on any given Sat.

The BCS is a FUCKED deal and they have hamstrung the other conferences. There are only 85 Players per team. Not all of them go to the BCS schools like they used to. The BCS is trying to put a crush on the Non-BCS schools. Unless the teams go undefeated a team a Non BCS team will never be rated highly.

I find it funny that BYU 20 yrs ago could win the Nat'l Championship, and be a highly ranked team.

http://www.nytimes.com/1985/01/03/sports/writers-poll-top-20-teams-associated-press-s-college-football-poll-sportswriters.html

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:1985_Big_8_football_standings

I can not find anything about the old SWC standings or other conferences from that time. (My google fu is not good today)

But just from the 2 postings from 1985 you can see the favortism there is by the Conf and Coaches polls... OU saying they are Nat'l Champs and BYU going 13-0... Nat'l Champs.

It is all BS... Div II has the only true Nat'l Championship. DI is a still a BS decision on who is going to be the Nat'l Champ.

PLF Off my soap box.


RO!!!
llnl

Dude, I am ECU grad, so I share the same sopabox. I loathe the BS, er, BCS...it is a fraternity...you are in, or you are out. C-USA is out.

I am glad Houston won, and I hope they stay undefeated to 'represent.' I am pulling for them.

[SVDuckman]

Speaking of the Tide, we had a pork-pulling yesterday. Lotsa leftover BBQ'd razorback left.

I went to the Bikes, Blues, and BBQ rally in Fayetteville, AR yesterday, and ironically I was eating a BBQ Pork sandwich during while watching the game outside a bar. That was a bad omen.

[RAT]

Dude, I am ECU grad, so I share the same sopabox. I loathe the BS, er, BCS...it is a fraternity...you are in, or you are out. C-USA is out.

I am glad Houston won, and I hope they stay undefeated to 'represent.' I am pulling for them.

As bad as we looked last night... I think Tulsa is going to kill us and our ranking.

ECU being 2-2 is not to shabby... I still think Texas Tech is the best 2-2 Team in the Country.

RO!!!

[Wootnik]

Rankings are out. I am suprised LSU is number 4 given there very very close win against a pretty crappy Mississippi State team. But Boise State is number 5, so they should be next on the chopping block if they follow the rest of the number 5's. And being a Tide alum, and fan it hurts me to say this but I think Auburn should probably be in the top 25 instead of some of those teams like Cal.

RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida (55) 4-0 1490
2 Texas (1) 4-0 1420
3 Alabama (4) 4-0 1400
4 LSU 4-0 1225
5 Boise State 4-0 1203
6 Virginia Tech 3-1 1190
7 USC 3-1 998
8 Oklahoma 2-1 979
9 Ohio State 3-1 957
10 Cincinnati 4-0 946
11 TCU 3-0 896
12 Houston 3-0 844
13 Iowa 4-0 788
14 Oklahoma State 3-1 591
15 Penn State 3-1 470
16 Oregon 3-1 462
17 Miami (FL) 2-1 452
18 Kansas 4-0 418
18 Georgia 3-1 418
20 Brigham Young 3-1 349
21 Mississippi 2-1 340
22 Michigan 4-0 271
23 Nebraska 3-1 256
24 California 3-1 206
25 Georgia Tech 3-1 185

[Fubar]

Nice job by the UH.

Sad that UT has to run up the score to get recognition.

That's the Bob Stoops way of doing things. Mack Brown's been forced to come late to the run-up party after Blow-U got recognition they should not have, only to Choke-U in another national championship game.

I would have hated to be on the UTEP half of a 64-7 score. No need for that.

Agree - the BCS way of doing business is bullshit. At least the coaches poll moved Boise St. up to number 5. UH is now 15. Blow-U, USC, or OSU, Penn St. should not be in the top ten.

[Devildoc]

As bad as we looked last night... I think Tulsa is going to kill us and our ranking.

ECU being 2-2 is not to shabby... I still think Texas Tech is the best 2-2 Team in the Country.

RO!!!

Texas Tech is a good team, and I enjoy watching Leach's offenses. He kills me with how often he "goes for it" on 4th down. Go big or go home. I like it.

Tulsa is a contender, but as long as Houston stays healthy and shores up some defense, they have a good shot of doing you-know-what (I am not going to mention it at the risk of jinxing the team). UH's QB is great.

ECU is neurotic...one week the defense is down, the nest it's up. The first half of every game has been great, the second half has sucked. The QB is looking erratic. They have the potential to win the division if not being in the top two of the division. But good ol' ECU will figure a way to screw it up.

I have been hoping that ECU can win often enough to use C-USA as a springboard to another conference, but I really don't see that happening.

BTW, my sis lived in Houston for a while, graduated from UH. She liked the school, so pulling for them is now part of the family tradition.

[gryan1966]

OK I dont get this at all USC gets beat by an unranked team and fall to what 9th or 10th and Cal gets beat by an unranked team is all the way down to 24th I would be pissed if I were them

[Wootnik]

I wouldn't call what happened to Cal as getting beat. I would say that was getting a beat down. They could just change their name to UTEP and say they were playing Texas. But USC should of fallen a lot further down in my opinion, they should of fallen to at least 18-19.

[Husker19D30]

Pollsters are douchebags.

[MBTex]

Great win Coogs!! Just don't hope they don't stumble in conference.

[billdawg]

One of the reasons GT has never taken off is because the stadium is in downtown Atlanta...no tailgating! :mad:

!

Yeah, that's the reason. Wouldn't have anything to do with them sucking the last 10 years would it,:biggrin:

[19MIKE]

Well well well Va. Tech beat Miami that shouold put them up to about 7 or 8 in BCS ranking , right on. I have to admit I'm surprised.:biggrin:

Man after the first two games I thought Miami had it going on....:eek:

Great win for a class program.

[Devildoc]

Congrats Auburn. Let's see if they get any love from the voters this week.

Sorry, Houston. Another year of C-USA searching for legitimacy is down the drain.

Miami should replay Va Tech. Me thinks it wouldn't be such a blowout this time around.

I am loving that UNC is doing exactly what I predicted.

Go Mich State!

Texas A&M is not nearly as good as everyone thought, but TCU and Boise State are.

LSU will not be #4 for long.

Charlie Weis may get another year.

[Wootnik]

I was pretty surprised about Kentucky. After watching them just roll over and die against Florida, didn't expect them to put up a fight against Bama. Their running back and that number 18 are pretty good.

As far as LSU, they get lucky so much that it gets hard to call it luck.

[billdawg]

I was pretty surprised about Kentucky. After watching them just roll over and die against Florida, didn't expect them to put up a fight against Bama. Their running back and that number 18 are pretty good.

As far as LSU, they get lucky so much that it gets hard to call it luck.

Christ, that celebration call on UGA was one of the worst I've ever seen, and certainly had a difference in the outcome.

[Wootnik]

yeah, that celebration call was ridiculous. They called it on Green when really he was just trying to get to the sideline. Which that penalty could be considered part of giving LSU the chance to get back and score so quickly.

I think those celebration penalties are stupid anyway. I think as long as you aren't rubbing it into your opponents face or just wasting a lot of time it should really be allowed.

[Wootnik]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida (54) 4-0 1486
2 Texas (1) 4-0 1416
3 Alabama (5) 5-0 1404
4 LSU 5-0 1290
5 Virginia Tech 4-1 1200
6 Boise State 5-0 1185
7 USC 4-1 1108
8 Cincinnati 5-0 1004
9 Ohio State 4-1 994
10 TCU 4-0 940
11 Miami (FL) 3-1 931
12 Iowa 5-0 823
13 Oregon 4-1 676
14 Penn State 4-1 564
15 Oklahoma State 3-1 563
16 Kansas 4-0 513
17 Auburn 5-0 428
18 Brigham Young 4-1 403
19 Oklahoma 2-2 370
20 Mississippi 3-1 357
21 Nebraska 3-1 333
22 Georgia Tech 4-1 311
23 South Florida 5-0 238
24 Missouri 4-0 215
25 South Carolina 4-1 200
Dropped from rankings: Houston 12, Georgia 18, Michigan 22, California 24

How can Oklahoma still be in the top 25?

[Husker19D30]

Thursday night NU vs Mizzou on ESPN. Bet it's gonna be a helluva game! Go Big Red!

[Wootnik]

I am ready for the Bama vs Ole Miss game. It is at Ole Miss. And of course the Florida vs LSU game will be a nice one to watch also. They are saying whether or not Teebow will be playing yet.

[billdawg]

Thursday night NU vs Mizzou on ESPN. Bet it's gonna be a helluva game! Go Big Red!

Your Huskers are looking good. They win this, they win the north. Did you get my PM, about the ISU game? Sorry I'll be rooting for the Cyclones.

[Lagnaippe]

I'm not a real football fan but as a Nebraska native, football is in my blood. My opinion is completely uneducated with respect to statistics but when I looked at the rankings, I was thrilled that Cincinnati outranks Ohio State. I know it may be temporary, but anytime the Buckeyes are one-upped by a smaller school, it is a good day!

[GST]

Thursday night NU vs Mizzou on ESPN. Bet it's gonna be a helluva game! Go Big Red!

Let's hope not. I want revenge for the skull-dragging last year, and the year before! :mad:

I also want to see Gabbert get his ass handed to him...

[rgrjoe175]

How can Oklahoma still be in the top 25?

Well that is a good question that nobody will ever be able to answer.

Sort of like having a ranking before the season even starts, it is all bullshit until you get toward the end of the season.

They should just designate which ever team wins the SEC as the National Champion.

[wowzers]

They should just designate which ever team wins the SEC as the National Champion.

I'll second that.

[Husker19D30]

I'll second that.

Buncha haters! :biggrin:

[Devildoc]

It will be argued that Ok is the best 2-2 team out there (maybe right), and better than most 3-1/4-1 teams. The losses were against good opponents. Having said that, I think there are better 3-1/4-1 teams that were knocked out of the top 25 that should still be there (Houston, maybe Ga) and that Ok's ranking is riding the team's repuation and history. I do not think they should be in the top 25, and when they have another loss, they will remain in the top 25.

[rgrjoe175]

I think those celebration penalties are stupid anyway. I think as long as you aren't rubbing it into your opponents face or just wasting a lot of time it should really be allowed.

Well it is the rules.

Now I just hope LSU beats Florida. I root for every SEC team except Florida. I want whoever is playing Florida to win. Simply because I live in Florida, and Gator fans are the worst...LOL

JP

[billdawg]

Well it is the rules.

Now I just hope LSU beats Florida. I root for every SEC team except Florida. I want whoever is playing Florida to win. Simply because I live in Florida, and Gator fans are the worst...LOL

JP

Yeah, but you did see that one right? There's no way, that was an excessive celebration, as the rule reads. The refs couldn't even come up with a good answer when asked by the media later.

[rgrjoe175]

Yeah, but you did see that one right? There's no way, that was an excessive celebration, as the rule reads. The refs couldn't even come up with a good answer when asked by the media later.

Sure is easy to second guess the refs when your not on the field.

Every single game which involves human judging, there will be errors. It is part of the game. Not the only bad call that game, nor the others.

Whether it really impacted the outcome is just speculation at best on our part. Especially in college football, if point the spread 16 or less with 1 minute left or 8 points or less with 2 seconds left, it aint over until the damn final second tics off.... LOL. Which does provide for entertainment. :smile:

[eyezweat]

It will be argued that Ok is the best 2-2 team out there (maybe right), and better than most 3-1/4-1 teams. The losses were against good opponents. Having said that, I think there are better 3-1/4-1 teams that were knocked out of the top 25 that should still be there (Houston, maybe Ga) and that Ok's ranking is riding the team's repuation and history. I do not think they should be in the top 25, and when they have another loss, they will remain in the top 25.


Like many other teams............. The BCS system sux!
I'm a diehard SEC guy (Gamecocks), so what do I know??, but I am glad to see Cincinatti up in the ranks, and ahead of Ohio State. Buckeye fans can be a bit of a pain.

And yes, I've been to the "shoe" and saw them beat up on Penn State, but being back here in SC, where many Buckeye fans seemed to have migrated while I was away, I love seeing SEC teams open the "can-o-whoopass" on them so they STFU for a little while. Even if it's LSU or the Gators.
No offense - rgrjoe175.

[wowzers]

Buckeyes are like 0-9 against SEC teams in Bowl games.

[GST]

Don't forget to tune in to ESPN tonight at 2100 to watch the mighty Huskers dismantle Missouri.

GO BIG RED!!!

[Joe33]

Like many other teams............. The BCS system sux!
I'm a diehard SEC guy (Gamecocks), so what do I know??, but I am glad to see Cincinatti up in the ranks, and ahead of Ohio State. Buckeye fans can be a bit of a pain.

And yes, I've been to the "shoe" and saw them beat up on Penn State, but being back here in SC, where many Buckeye fans seemed to have migrated while I was away, I love seeing SEC teams open the "can-o-whoopass" on them so they STFU for a little while. Even if it's LSU or the Gators.
No offense - rgrjoe175.

So so true. I have nothing whatsoever against Ohio State University. But, from my experience, they have some of the worst fans of any sport. Sore winners, sore losers and just delusional at times. U of Cincy gets ranked 1 spot above OSU for one week and Buckeye fans are going INSANE! They cannot fathom that UC is ranked above them. A team that is the best of a consistently weak Big10/11, who then gets dismantled by the SEC, time and time again. Yes, I'm sure there are plenty of perfectly nice OSU fans out there. It's just that I know quite a few who have rewritten the defininition of "crazy".

[Highspeed160th]

You guys are haters, I'll be in the Shoe saturday have a great time! Keep rooting for your team I'll root for mine even againest the mighty SEC.

Even loser teams have shitheads for fans. Some even post here!:) Put that in your juice box an suck it.

Living up to the stereo type. Go Bucks!

Go LSU! (where's Duck Marshall?)

[GracieLou]

Here is another vote for LSU -- down with the Gators :tongue:!

[Spinner]

I'm not a big college football fan, but if I was, I'd be rooting for the Horned Frogs of TCU.

I like the coaches philosophy.

[curber84]

Yep...they suck! And I'll tell you what, it is sadly glorious to see them lose because living in GA you are surrounded by Dawgs fans. My wife, kids, family....EVERYONE!

When I was a kid my grandmother lived in Roosevelt high rise directly across from the GT stadium. My brother and I would sit and watch the games from her living window. Of course as I grew it became GT games and rock concerts like the Champagne Jam. That was the first time I say Ted Nugent...from my grandmother's living room window!

One of the reasons GT has never taken off is because the stadium is in downtown Atlanta...no tailgating! :mad:

Go Jackets!


Actually, GT has never taken off because they SUCK!! :eek:

Go DAWGS!!!!! Eat 'em up! Woof, woof, woof!!!

[Devildoc]

Didn't Ga Tech get a piece of the nat championship in 90 and end up #1?

[Husker19D30]

Don't forget to tune in to ESPN tonight at 2100 to watch the mighty Huskers dismantle Missouri.

GO BIG RED!!!

Holy crap that was a game! Way to go Blackshirts! Ndamukong Suh for president!

[eyezweat]

Holy crap that was a game! Way to go Blackshirts! Ndamukong Suh for president!


Well.... a second half anyhow. The 1st half barely kept me awake. I did see the finish though. Nice job Huskers!

Now I'm wondering how crazy the SEC gets this weekend. Fla, LSU, Bama, Ole Miss, Auburn, and of course my Gamecocks & KY.:eek:

[GST]

Holy crap that was a game! Way to go Blackshirts! Ndamukong Suh for president!

The Blackshirts dominated that game. The TD was bullshit, he didn't get in before his knee touched. Our O looked pathetic until the 4th quarter. I don't know why Watson continued to try and throw the ball in that rain.

Suh dominated the entire game and right now, is the most dominant player in college football. Craig James is hyping him for the Heisman now.

We have a long season ahead of us and much improvement must be made but it was heartening to see that the kids didn't give up; something that would not have happened a few years ago.

Not sure if you noticed, but it looks to me like Helu hurt his shoulder/collarbone at the end of the game. That won't be good...

[Wootnik]

SUUUUUEEEEYYY!!!!

well, got my answer about the question earlier about why Auburn wasn't ranked being 4-0 and Oklahoma was ranked being 2-2.

Roll Tide!.

[Sltwtr1]

Go Gators!!! Tigers are tasty meat so I have heard;)

Sltwtr1

OUT

[Wootnik]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3647220264_c20faee552.jpg?v=1245595003

[slowloud&harmless]

Dont look now but my Iowa Hawkeyes are 6-0. It hasnt been pretty most of the way so far, but they're hanging around. If they just find a way to win in Columbus sometime this decade......

[Wootnik]

1 Florida (50) 5-0 1490
2 Alabama (10) 6-0 1430
3 Texas 5-0 1395
4 Virginia Tech 5-1 1283
5 Boise State 5-0 1199
6 USC 4-1 1161
7 Ohio State 5-1 1048
8 Cincinnati 5-0 1038
9 Miami (FL) 4-1 970
10 LSU 5-1 947
11 Iowa 6-0 919
12 TCU 5-0 917
13 Oregon 5-1 776
14 Penn State 5-1 597
15 Nebraska 4-1 576
16 Oklahoma State 4-1 559
17 Kansas 5-0 551
18 Brigham Young 5-1 490
19 Georgia Tech 5-1 453
20 Oklahoma 3-2 432
21 South Florida 5-0 330
22 South Carolina 5-1 319
23 Houston 4-1 192
24 Utah 4-1 76
25 Notre Dame 4-1 75

Wow, Alabama knocked Texas out of number 2. Although really it doesn't matter. If Alabama and Florida stay undefeated they will have to play each other in the SEC.

[eyezweat]

Although really it doesn't matter. If Alabama and Florida stay undefeated they will have to play each other in the SEC.

It's almost last year all over again. Wonder who will be eliminated this time 'round. (SEC)

Will the final be Fla vs. Iowa this time? Or Texas?
Alot of ball to be played yet.
Good luck to the Cocks next week @ Bama. Potential train wreck. I'll need some Tequila for that one.:eek:

[TJ2JM1783]

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3375/3647220264_c20faee552.jpg?v=1245595003

FUNNY.

On your AP Poll list, isn't it funny that Notre Dame is back in the top 25 after having a bye week?

I think Alabama is better than Florida. HOWEVER, if Jefferson is replaced as LSU's quarterback (horrible game against Georgia and then a repeat underachiever against Florida), on November 7 the game between LSU and Alabama might be much more interesting than Saturday's game (LSU v. Florida). Can Jefferson pass the ball or see the field? Why did it take LSU's defensive coordinator until the second half to tell his player to hit Florida's center when he twitches his head to count the time for Tebow??? Don't you think that improvement could have been made in the first quarter when the defense came in? Admittedly, the defense was what kept LSU in the game. Ugh. It was such a frustrating game to watch when you are a Tiger fan. Boring as hell because it was all defense.


And, the SEC has not been dominant in the past eleven years in regards to wins (no one beats the SEC culture). That honor goes to the PAC 10.

From SEC fans own website.

http://www.secsportsfan.com/sec-vs-pac-10-football.html

The Big 12 does not look statistically shabby either.

There are very few coaches I dislike more than Pete Carroll. Maybe, Urban Meyer and Charlie Weiss.:biggrin:

[RGR.Montcalm]

Go Gators!!! Tigers are tasty meat so I have heard;)

Sltwtr1

OUT

x100,000,000!!!!!

Tigers are probably OK but I wouldn't mind a 'cougar' right about now....:eek::biggrin:

[Sltwtr1]

x100,000,000!!!!!

Tigers are probably OK but I wouldn't mind a 'cougar' right about now....:eek::biggrin:


I have been attacked by Cougars quite frequently recently...most of the time I was able to escape...although I have been a victim. If that is your thing I am more than happy to take you to some of their hunting grounds if you come down Florida way:biggrin:

Go Gators!

Sltwtr1

OUT

[Joe33]

FUNNY.

On your AP Poll list, isn't it funny that Notre Dame is back in the top 25 after having a bye week?

I think Alabama is better than Florida. HOWEVER, if Jefferson is replaced as LSU's quarterback (horrible game against Georgia and then a repeat underachiever against Florida), on November 7 the game between LSU and Alabama might be much more interesting than Saturday's game (LSU v. Florida). Can Jefferson pass the ball or see the field? Why did it take LSU's defensive coordinator until the second half to tell his player to hit Florida's center when he twitches his head to count the time for Tebow??? Don't you think that improvement could have been made in the first quarter when the defense came in? Admittedly, the defense was what kept LSU in the game. Ugh. It was such a frustrating game to watch when you are a Tiger fan. Boring as hell because it was all defense.


And, the SEC has not been dominant in the past eleven years in regards to wins (no one beats the SEC culture). That honor goes to the PAC 10.

From SEC fans own website.

http://www.secsportsfan.com/sec-vs-pac-10-football.html

The Big 12 does not look statistically shabby either.

There are very few coaches I dislike more than Pete Carroll. Maybe, Urban Meyer and Charlie Weiss.:biggrin:

It is funny but not totally uncommon for this to happen. Just another reason rankings mean little to nothing until year end. A couple years ago Florida jumped Notre Dame in the rankings when Florida had a bye week, even though Notre Dame played and won that same week. When the top 25 gets jostled around enough in a given week, the teams that are just out of the top 25 can make it in, bye or not.

As an Irish fan, I don't like Charlie Weiss either, at all. :biggrin:

[RGR.Montcalm]

I have been attacked by Cougars quite frequently recently...most of the time I was able to escape...although I have been a victim. If that is your thing I am more than happy to take you to some of their hunting grounds if you come down Florida way:biggrin:

Go Gators!

Sltwtr1

OUT

Actually, a heart beat and female are becoming more the deciding factor...and that's only half in jest.

As ugly as I am, a pork chop tied around my neck is my only hope for dogs to pay me attention...LOL;)

[TXAggie05]

Gig 'em Aggies...

at least we always win halftime... ;)

[TJ2JM1783]

It is funny but not totally uncommon for this to happen.

Yes, you are right.

As an Irish fan, I don't like Charlie Weiss either, at all. :biggrin:

Some coaches, like Cam Cameron, cannot be head coaches. Charlie Weiss is one of them IMO. Did you hear his second to last press conference where he was virtually whining about "except for this play in this game, and this play in this game, we would be undefeated". :rolleyes: Seriously, he said it.

In the interest of full disclosure, I admit I am an anti-Notre Dame fan. Whatever team is playing against the Irish, I am for them. Sorry.

The only "people" that get more positive press than President Obama is the University of Notre Dame. Undeservedly. Maybe that is why the Irish are sooooooooooooo disliked? ;)

Once again, sorry Irish. :smile:

[wowzers]

How Florida squeaked by I don't know.

[Wootnik]

Well, I do think that Pass Interference Call, and the personal Foul helped them quite a bit. I do have to say, I hope Florida keeps playing like that, Alabama will have a field day with them.

[wowzers]

Well, I do think that Pass Interference Call, and the personal Foul helped them quite a bit. I do have to say, I hope Florida keeps playing like that, Alabama will have a field day with them.

True, an extra thirty yards always helps out.

[67 Fastback]

Helluva game Texas - Have a good season, win out, and have a go at that National Championship.

[Wootnik]

All I want to say is Mark Ingram for Heisman and Roll Tide.
Our quarterback must be having some issues, he looked terrible.

[Dave the Impaler]

Hoping Alabama is going to take that #1 spot since Florida barely won. We didn't do our best, but we did better than them.

[slowloud&harmless]

Hawkeyes now 7-0......in heaven there is no beer, thats why we drink it here.....

[Devildoc]

East Carolina won, Va Tech and Ohio lost. There must be a God...

I will be curious to see the BS, er, I mean the BCS poll. I bet 1-5 are all mixed up differently than the AP poll.

[Wootnik]

Yeah, if only ND would of beaten USC.

[Wootnik]

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Alabama (39) 7-0 1447
2 Florida (20) 6-0 1434
3 Texas 6-0 1365
4 USC 5-1 1213
5 Cincinnati 6-0 1163
6 Boise State 6-0 1156
7 Iowa 7-0 1092
8 Miami (FL) 5-1 1056
9 LSU 5-1 1014
10 TCU 6-0 1001
11 Georgia Tech 6-1 861
12 Oregon 5-1 849
13 Penn State 6-1 753
14 Oklahoma State 5-1 690
15 Virginia Tech 5-2 684
16 Brigham Young 6-1 601
17 Houston 5-1 478
18 Ohio State 5-2 373
19 Utah 5-1 350
20 Pittsburgh 6-1 330
21 Texas Tech 5-2 286
22 West Virginia 5-1 205
23 South Carolina 5-2 159
24 Kansas 5-1 120
25 Oklahoma 3-3 117


Well didn't really want Alabama to be number 1, would rather Bama be the under ranked when/if they play Florida at the SEC championship. Although they are all projecting Florida to be number 1 in the BCS.

[Longrifle]

Way to go, Bama! RMFT!!

[Andraste]

Hawkeyes now 7-0......in heaven there is no beer, thats why we drink it here.....


Next week they will be at Mich. State so I predict a loss there.

Even if they win the rest of their games, the BCS will screw 'em out of the Championship game on strength of schedule. IMO, the Rose Bowl never wants Iowa because they don't inspire enough people to travel there. Money talks.

I say bring on the playoff format!

[Wootnik]

I think if Iowa runs out the rest of their schedule then they will have an argument. Of course if Florida/Alabama and Texas all stay undefeated I would consider the argument mute since the SEC and the big 12 have championship games that should propel them ahead of anyone in the Big 10.

I think Pasadena will have plenty of fans for the national Championship game on the 7th and the Rose Bowl on the 1st though. I know if Bama makes it I will be heading out there.

[Fubar]

Helluva game Texas - Have a good season, win out, and have a go at that National Championship.

That's mighty gracious of you Fastback. Thanks. Got to get there first. If we do, we'll do our best to represent the Big 12.

We all hated to see what happened to Sam Bradford. Such a good kid. I saw & heard that hit up close. I question the wisdom of Big Show Bob and Sam's advisors/family for encouraging him to come back too soon.

Thanks to a free ticket package upgrade - I was 3rd row up at the OU goal facing the afternoon sun. Burnt to a crisp. Defenses ruled on both sides. No one could get anything done offensively from what I could tell - but I had OU Cheerleaders in my face the entire game. :biggrin: I still have Boomer Sooner ringing in my ears. :( And yes, I wore Burnt Orange. For the most part, the OU fans were very classy about my crew invading their side of the party. We (Me and my Sons) try to go every year and this was our first time sitting on the OU side.

College rivalry games have changed my opinion in favor of College football over the NFL. It is a great time. Jerry Jones can shove his $75 parking fees @ Jerry's World up his ass.

[Wootnik]

BCS standings are out.

RK TEAM RECORD
1 Florida 6-0
2 Alabama 7-0
3 Texas 6-0
4 Boise State 6-0
5 Cincinnati 6-0
6 Iowa 7-0
7 USC 5-1
8 TCU 6-0
9 LSU 5-1
10 Miami (FL) 5-1
11 Oregon 5-1
12 Georgia Tech 6-1
13 Penn State 6-1
14 Virginia Tech 5-2
15 Oklahoma State 5-1
16 Brigham Young 6-1
17 Houston 5-1
18 Utah 5-1
19 Ohio State 5-2
20 Pittsburgh 6-1
21 Wisconsin 5-2
22 Arizona 4-2
23 West Virginia 5-1
24 South Carolina 5-2
25 Kansas 5-1

Nice to see Iowa above USC

[slowloud&harmless]

Next week they will be at Mich. State so I predict a loss there.

Even if they win the rest of their games, the BCS will screw 'em out of the Championship game on strength of schedule. IMO, the Rose Bowl never wants Iowa because they don't inspire enough people to travel there. Money talks.

I say bring on the playoff format!

Iowa travels well, trust me on this one.
Picking a loss in E. Lansing is not unreasonable. The Hawkeyes have been hard to predict all season. They play a sound, tough defense with no tricks. Offense is the question where they've had lots of inconsistency. They're a "blue collar" team with no stars or high profile guys, but the play as a team. Lots of fun to watch.

[ET1/ss nuke]

Though they lost, I was impressed that my Gamecocks stayed with the Crimson Tide into the 4th quarter. Alabama was able to run the ball, but it did them no good points-wise until the end of the game, and the original USC totally shut down the Tide's passing game. If the team that this week deserves to be #23 can do what it did to the team that is now ranked #1, then either college football has achieved NFL-caliber parity, or Alabama is over-rated, or South Carolina is underrated, or some combination of all of those.

[Andraste]

Iowa travels well, trust me on this one.
Picking a loss in E. Lansing is not unreasonable. The Hawkeyes have been hard to predict all season. They play a sound, tough defense with no tricks. Offense is the question where they've had lots of inconsistency. They're a "blue collar" team with no stars or high profile guys, but the play as a team. Lots of fun to watch.


They don't pay their players enough in order to keep up with the SEC. doh!

Just kidding. Well, maybe not.

[slowloud&harmless]

Not so fast my friend. The Hawkeyes are 3-1 aganist SEC teams in recent bowl games. Doh!:cool:

[eyezweat]

Though they lost, I was impressed that my Gamecocks stayed with the Crimson Tide into the 4th quarter. Alabama was able to run the ball, but it did them no good points-wise until the end of the game, and the original USC totally shut down the Tide's passing game. If the team that this week deserves to be #23 can do what it did to the team that is now ranked #1, then either college football has achieved NFL-caliber parity, or Alabama is over-rated, or South Carolina is underrated, or some combination of all of those.

I too was impressed, at least with our Defense. They came to play and did it respectably......... The offense however, has again missed the bus. I know Garcia was pressured by Bama's line, but even when he had a little time, he just had no perspective of what to do. Whoever did the play calling should be strung up IMO, even if it's the Ole' Ball Coach. 3 times in a row? the fade wasn't working, and just because Alshon Jeffrey made impressive catches last week, try a little something else, if it's not working. This is Bama, not KY! Show some creativity for F****KS sake!
Gotta go look for my sedatives.:rolleyes:

[Husker19D30]

Dammit. 31-10? Against Texas Tech? Well, the Raiders came to play, and the Huskers obviously didn't. After that performance we deserved to be dropped out of the top 25. The Blackshirts remain excellent, but without help from the offense they're going to suffer a setback or two.

Let's see if they can take IA State to the woodshed this weekend. Lots of eyes on the QB position.

I still think they can make it to Dallas on the 5th, though. Go Big Red!

[Andraste]

Not so fast my friend. The Hawkeyes are 3-1 aganist SEC teams in recent bowl games. Doh!:cool:

So you are saying Iowa is paying their players better these days? :p

I still hate the SEC and the BCS. I think a playoff system would garner better ratings. Once the bowl bids are given you usually know who is going to win. I think a playoff system would help even out the strength of schedule and give a better measure of the national champion.

(That is, provided that pass interference calls are not blown accidently or on purpose.)

[Joe33]

Yes, you are right.



Some coaches, like Cam Cameron, cannot be head coaches. Charlie Weiss is one of them IMO. Did you hear his second to last press conference where he was virtually whining about "except for this play in this game, and this play in this game, we would be undefeated". :rolleyes: Seriously, he said it.

In the interest of full disclosure, I admit I am an anti-Notre Dame fan. Whatever team is playing against the Irish, I am for them. Sorry.

The only "people" that get more positive press than President Obama is the University of Notre Dame. Undeservedly. Maybe that is why the Irish are sooooooooooooo disliked?

Once again, sorry Irish. :smile:

There are alot of reasons ND is so disliked. Some of the reasons are warranted, some of the reasons are ridiculous and/or simply make believe. As a lifelong ND fan, there are things I don't like and/or disagree with too. But let's not start down that road unless we want a new thread. :biggrin: Stewart Mandel wrote a great column on this very subject at the beginning of the season. I think he NAILED this topic. It's on SI.com

Although I dislike Weis, I think he should stay until the end of this season. Although their defense is just horrendous, the team has still improved overall. I want to see what happens.

Either way, the CF season is getting veeeery interesting! ;)

[RAT]

So you are saying Iowa is paying their players better these days? :p

I still hate the SEC and the BCS. I think a playoff system would garner better ratings. Once the bowl bids are given you usually know who is going to win. I think a playoff system would help even out the strength of schedule and give a better measure of the national champion.

(That is, provided that pass interference calls are not blown accidently or on purpose.)

I still say Texas Tech is the best unranked team in the Nation. UH jumped back up to 17. I think is a good place for us.

I think TT is a top 20. Neb is a top 25. They are good teams.

As for the Irish... The Big Tick is AWESOME... ND is NOT what it was 20yrs ago. Kids now do not want to go play for a place in the Mid-West like they use to. Why go to ND when USC has Snoop dog and hot model chicks on the sidelines and in the meetings. Hell Texas has Matt (The FAG) McConahey (Spelling), Jessy James and Sandra Bullock, Michael Dell, ect...

Hell at UH we brought back Kenny Rodgers, John J. Moores (Owner of the SD Padres), George H. Bush, Carl Lewis, Andre Ware, David Kingler, and a number of local big time Celeb's.

Say what you want, all those names give an impression to the kids when they walk on campus that there is a lot of substance. Not like in the old days when everyone wanted to go to ND. Talk to a young kid today ND is not on there list of schools to go to.

I think it is BS that they fell off the rankings. Ohio state can be listed with 2 losses and ND falls WTF... ND has played a lot hard schedual than OSU.

RO!!!

[TJ2JM1783]

There are alot of reasons ND is so disliked. Some of the reasons are warranted, some of the reasons are ridiculous and/or simply make believe. As a lifelong ND fan,

Get help for your addiction before its too late.;)


there are things I don't like and/or disagree with too. But let's not start down that road unless we want a new thread. Stewart Mandel wrote a great column on this very subject at the beginning of the season. I think he NAILED this topic. It's on SI.com

I get SI in the mail, but I had not read that article. I just did. I think he was right about 3 of the 6 points. However, I disagree with 1) the Irish play by their own rules, 2) the comment about their (perceived) arrogance and 3) BCS losses.

Perceived? He spun a negative into a positive. BCS losses? He forgets to mention that Notre Dame makes it to the BCS game simply because of economics. PEOPLE like to watch Notre Dame (they like Green Bay and Pittsburgh (and maybe the 49's) have national fans, and THEIR FANS TRAVEL) and watch Notre Dame lose. :cool:

Although I dislike Weis, I think he should stay until the end of this season. Although their defense is just horrendous, the team has still improved overall. I want to see what happens.

Weis(s) is about the only person that I know that has had gastric bypass surgery and it has failed. Also, can someone tell him to stop with the fake tanning. Nothing will make him more attractive. Except maybe, not being such an SOB. Oh, so petty. :p

Seriously, they have improved. I agree. This past weekend in the game against USC, I actually was hoping they would win (so fickle in my allegiances). In between watching the Florida game; when I was watching in the 2nd qtr. and there was no call in the pass interference and then an intentional grounding penalty (USC) vice the FUMBLE call (Notre Dame recovery), it became apparent that Notre Dame was suffering from a distinct case of "home field advantage". I absolutely hate that. However, that 1 second pass by Clausen. WTH? There was a wide open man! It would have been difficult, but tying it would have been "legendary". Clausen has a tendency to be a performance day underachiever?

It seems that the refs, or the audience or whomever wanted Florida and USC to win this weekend. Arkansas had some horrendous calls go against them in the 3rd qtr. too. I know you don't call offensive pass interference much, but come'on.

Either way, the CF season is getting veeeery interesting!

Yes, I was glad to see that Alabama is top in the AP poll.

[Andraste]

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2009/football/ncaa/10/21/sec-officials.ap/index.html


SEC suspends UF-Arkansas crew

Story Highlights

The officials from the Florida-Arkansas game will not call a game until Nov. 14
The SEC says there is no evidence to support the personal foul call on a Hogs DL
The same crew called a controversial unsportsmanlike conduct penalty in LSU-UGA


No mention of other questionable calls in the Arkansas-Florida game.

It makes me wonder if some of these officials (both in the SEC office or on the field) are on the take. The NBA official scandal comes to mind.

[slowloud&harmless]

Hawkeyes are now 8-0. First time in school history. All of these close games are killin' me. Could it be one of those rare charmed seasons?

[smoked]

...Could it be one of those rare charmed seasons?

Depends how you define charmed. National Championship? No. Due to strength of schedule. EVEN THOUGH they beat ranked teams (distantly ranked but PSU).

Another reason for a 16 team playoff.

[slowloud&harmless]

Im not ready to call them NC title contenders yet, but they're SOS is ranked pretty high. That arugement dosn't hold water. All they can do is keep winning, one game at a time.

[slowloud&harmless]

Let's see if they can take IA State to the woodshed this weekend.Red!

Damn. That has happend in Lincoln since 1977?

[Husker19D30]

Damn. That has happend in Lincoln since 1977?

Holy crap that was just demoralizing. Worst offensive football play I think I've ever seen. Ndamukong Suh tried to beat IA State by himself and almost did. Would have been nice if the rest of the team could have helped him out a bit.

[slowloud&harmless]

Sounded like a shit load of turnovers? From an outsiders perspective though, I think the Huskers have the right guy as head coach now. Im convinced that these smaller midwest schools have to have a certain type of guy in place. After all, we dont have mountains or beaches to sell to kids on the recruting trail.
Its my favorite time of year. College football in full swing and pheaseant season starts next week here in Iowa.

[Wootnik]

AP Poll is out. Alabama dropped to number 2 as I expected.

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida (30) 7-0 1463
2 Alabama (23) 8-0 1448
3 Texas (7) 7-0 1407
4 USC 6-1 1217
5 Cincinnati 7-0 1211
6 Boise State 7-0 1177
7 Iowa 8-0 1148
8 TCU 7-0 1132
9 LSU 6-1 1040
10 Oregon 6-1 933
11 Georgia Tech 7-1 923
12 Penn State 7-1 843
13 Oklahoma State 6-1 768
14 Virginia Tech 5-2 734
15 Houston 6-1 601
16 Pittsburgh 7-1 551
17 Ohio State 6-2 508
18 Miami (FL) 5-2 501
19 Utah 6-1 400
20 West Virginia 6-1 323
21 South Carolina 6-2 270
22 Oklahoma 4-3 210
23 Arizona 5-2 164
24 Mississippi 5-2 142
25 Notre Dame 5-2 135

[redhawk]

17 Ohio State 6-2 508
The AP.:rolleyes:

[Wootnik]

BCS standings are below. nice to see Iowa up ahead of USC although I have a feeling that will be short lived.


BCS Standings
RK TEAM RECORD
1 Florida 7-0
2 Alabama 8-0
3 Texas 7-0
4 Iowa 8-0
5 USC 6-1
6 TCU 7-0
7 Boise State 7-0
8 Cincinnati 7-0
9 LSU 6-1
10 Oregon 6-1
11 Georgia Tech 7-1
12 Penn State 7-1
13 Virginia Tech 5-2
14 Oklahoma State 6-1
15 Pittsburgh 7-1
16 Utah 6-1
17 Ohio State 6-2
18 Houston 6-1
19 Miami (FL) 5-2
20 Arizona 5-2
21 West Virginia 6-1
22 South Carolina 6-2
23 Notre Dame 5-2
24 California 5-2
25 Mississippi 5-2

[GST]

Holy crap that was just demoralizing. Worst offensive football play I think I've ever seen. Ndamukong Suh tried to beat IA State by himself and almost did. Would have been nice if the rest of the team could have helped him out a bit.

I honestly don't know what to make of this. WTF is the Zac Lee that Wats talked up during the entire off season?!!! Where is our power running game?

We have a championship defense but I think it's time that Bo had a heart to heart with Wats...

[Andraste]

Hawkeyes are now 8-0. First time in school history. All of these close games are killin' me. Could it be one of those rare charmed seasons?

In heaven there is no beer! Good to see that they can pull out the 4th Quarter win again.

I stand corrected about MSU. I didn't think the Hawkeyes would win that one.

I haven't been watching it closely the last couple of weeks, but which computer models had Iowa ranked no. one this last week?

What criteria is causing these "computers" to rank Iowa number one? I only know about the BCS model, so I assume that the other models are just talking points for color commentators and sports radio call in shows?

Iowa always got knocked on strength of schedule. Is it "the total points scored" that is helping them with the models or what?

[slowloud&harmless]

From what I understand there's a couple different SOS formulas out there thats helping them in the computyer polls. Iowa, having won at Penn State, at Wisconsin, at Michigan State and hell, at Iowa State for that matter helps bolster their SOS.
As a life long fan and alumni of Iowa I dont know if they have what it takes to get a chance at the NC game. For me, I'll just enjoy the ride while it last.
Plus, wrestling seaon is almost here. :smile:

[Wootnik]

Well, USC's goals have changed. No Pac10 championship and National Championship is out the window. Iowa had another come back game. I am looking forward to the Bama/LSU game next week. If Bama wins it will be Florida/Bama in the SEC Championship.

[Wootnik]

Alabama down to number 3(had the week off). USC dropped to number 12 (thought they would drop lower than that). I didn't expect Iowa to drop to number 8.

AP Top 25
RK TEAM RECORD PTS
1 Florida (38) 8-0 1448
2 Texas (13) 8-0 1408
3 Alabama (8) 8-0 1390
4 Cincinnati 8-0 1212
5 Boise State 8-0 1211
6 TCU 8-0 1147
7 Oregon 7-1 1130
8 Iowa 9-0 1127
9 LSU 7-1 1036
10 Georgia Tech 8-1 949
11 Penn State 8-1 886
12 USC 6-2 741
13 Houston 7-1 707
14 Pittsburgh 7-1 690
15 Ohio State 7-2 636
16 Miami (FL) 6-2 602
17 Utah 7-1 552
18 Oklahoma State 6-2 361
19 Notre Dame 6-2 352
20 Oklahoma 5-3 348
21 Arizona 5-2 322
22 Virginia Tech 5-3 185
23 California 6-2 181
24 Wisconsin 6-2 172
25 Brigham Young 6-2 130

[Joe33]

Get help for your addiction before its too late.;)

I can't. I'm a proud fan and alot of my family went there. :biggrin:


I get SI in the mail, but I had not read that article. I just did. I think he was right about 3 of the 6 points. However, I disagree with 1) the Irish play by their own rules, 2) the comment about their (perceived) arrogance and 3) BCS losses.

Perceived? He spun a negative into a positive. BCS losses? He forgets to mention that Notre Dame makes it to the BCS game simply because of economics. PEOPLE like to watch Notre Dame (they like Green Bay and Pittsburgh (and maybe the 49's) have national fans, and THEIR FANS TRAVEL) and watch Notre Dame lose. :cool:

Ok, but hold on there. There is no question that ND has been a very mediocre team for many years, sometimes downright awful. But to "fault" ND for accepting bowl bids that are offered to them is just plain crazy. That is not arrogance. ND operates in the same very imperfect system as everybody else. What are they supposed to do? Turn down the bowl offer (and millions of $s) and say, "Thanks, but we don't think we deserve to play in your bowl." Ridiculous. So ND is "hated" for this and THAT is unwarranted. Hate the system. ND, in this respect, are "victims" of their own long-term success as a program/school and incredible tradition. You may not like ND, but their success and tradition speaks for themselves. There are reasons ND has many many millions of fans across the world. Another example: Should we hate Ohio State for continually going to BCS bowls and getting absolutely crushed by SEC teams? One could argue that OSU is overrated most every year as they dominate a weak conference and then get manhandled outside of the Big 10. But I sure as hell don't think they should turn down a BCS bowl bid.



Weis(s) is about the only person that I know that has had gastric bypass surgery and it has failed. Also, can someone tell him to stop with the fake tanning. Nothing will make him more attractive. Except maybe, not being such an SOB. Oh, so petty. :p

No argument here. I also wish a trainer would hand him a tissue every game so he can wipe the snot running down his nose and into his mouth. He looks like an overgrown white-trash kid. But, I think Weis is "improving" in some ways too.

Seriously, they have improved. I agree. This past weekend in the game against USC, I actually was hoping they would win (so fickle in my allegiances). In between watching the Florida game; when I was watching in the 2nd qtr. and there was no call in the pass interference and then an intentional grounding penalty (USC) vice the FUMBLE call (Notre Dame recovery), it became apparent that Notre Dame was suffering from a distinct case of "home field advantage". I absolutely hate that. However, that 1 second pass by Clausen. WTH? There was a wide open man! It would have been difficult, but tying it would have been "legendary". Clausen has a tendency to be a performance day underachiever?

Respectfully, I think this statement is just plain crazy. Claussen's stats speak for themselves and he's doing it without one of the (if not THE) best receiver in the nation (Michael Floyd). He has come from behind in the 4th qtr. to seal the win (count them) 4 times this year, and he did so HURT. Anyone who makes fun of turf toe has never had it. It should have been 5 times, but they lost the Michigan game (mostly IMO) due to poor coaching and the worst (almost conspiratorial) officiating I have ever seen in my lifetime. And I am not one to complain about officiating as usually it all evens out. As for the USC game, I was there and didn't have the advantage of replay, so I don't have a good feel for whether or not it was a "hometown job"- could have been. I do know that, had it not been for alot of personal fouls against USC, ND would have never been in that game.

It seems that the refs, or the audience or whomever wanted Florida and USC to win this weekend. Arkansas had some horrendous calls go against them in the 3rd qtr. too. I know you don't call offensive pass interference much, but come'on.

Totally agree w/ you here. I don't think there should be conference refs. I think there should only be NCAA refs. I don't want part-time insurance salesman who live in Ann Arbor officiating Michigan games, as an example.

Yes, I was glad to see that Alabama is top in the AP poll.

ND has improved alot and their schedule is quite a bit tougher than it looked pre-season. Due to 10+ years of mismanagement, they are a team that's gone from 3-9, to 7-6, to 6-2. They are still working out some serious kinks, but doing it with alot of heart.

Each week this season gets more and more interesting.

[HighDragLowSpeed]

I didn't expect Iowa to drop to number 8.



No one else thinks that Iowa is a pretender? Watching their games (on slingbox in my case) gives me a headache when i think that they are a top 10 ranked team.

[Joe33]

No one else thinks that Iowa is a pretender? Watching their games (on slingbox in my case) gives me a headache when i think that they are a top 10 ranked team.

I've been rooting for Iowa, just because they are a scrappy, nasty team. But, I cannot believe IU could not pull out a game when they got 7 turnovers. Phenomenal. Not sure if Iowa is that lucky or if IU really sucks that bad.

To Iowa's credit, they did dominate the 4th quarter.

[billdawg]

No one else thinks that Iowa is a pretender? Watching their games (on slingbox in my case) gives me a headache when i think that they are a top 10 ranked team.

But, couldn't you also say, that that is the mark of a great team? When the pressure is on, they always come through.

[slowloud&harmless]

One way to look at Iowa is like they're a retarded kid. They look sloppy and can be easy to trick, but piss 'em off and they just might bust out with some retard strenght and crack some skulls. Yeah, Im a fan.

[billdawg]

One way to look at Iowa is like they're a retarded kid. They look sloppy and can be easy to trick, but piss 'em off and they just might bust out with some retard strenght and crack some skulls. Yeah, Im a fan.

LOL, priceless dude. I'm in no way, shape, or form a big 10/1 or Iowa fan, but it would be nice to see someone that I don't hate in the championship game for a change.

[TJ2JM1783]

I've been rooting for Iowa, just because they are a scrappy, nasty team. But, I cannot believe IU could not pull out a game when they got 7 turnovers. Phenomenal. Not sure if Iowa is that lucky or if IU really sucks that bad.

To Iowa's credit, they did dominate the 4th quarter.

The wind factor during the game had a lot to do with the outcome, IOWA's 3rd Qtr. problems and Indiana's 3rd Qtr. success. IMO.

Originally Posted by TJ2JM1783
Get help for your addiction before its too late.

Originally Posted by Joe33 I can't. I'm a proud fan and alot of my family went there.

I have ONE family member that went there too. The others went to top 10 schools. We try to be nice and tolerant. Just say to yourself "I will stop the cycle!" :biggrin:

Perceived? He spun a negative into a positive. BCS losses? He forgets to mention that Notre Dame makes it to the BCS game simply because of economics. PEOPLE like to watch Notre Dame (they like Green Bay and Pittsburgh (and maybe the 49's) have national fans, and THEIR FANS TRAVEL) and watch Notre Dame lose.

Originally Posted by Joe33 Ok, but hold on there. . . . to "fault" ND for accepting bowl bids that are offered to them is just plain crazy. Turn down the bowl offer (and millions of $s) and say, "Thanks, but we don't think we deserve to play in your bowl." Ridiculous. ND, in this respect, are "victims" of their own long-term success as a program/school and incredible tradition. You may not like ND, but their success and tradition speaks for themselves. Another example: Should we hate Ohio State for continually going to BCS bowls and getting absolutely crushed by SEC teams? One could argue that OSU is overrated most every year as they dominate a weak conference and then get manhandled outside of the Big 10. But I sure as hell don't think they should turn down a BCS bowl bid.

First, I never said that ND should not accept a bowl bid. That is a quantum leap on your part. The school counts on the revenue, the other programs at Notre Dame besides football count on the revenue. They should not get invited. But because they have national fans . . . I was more or less focusing, making an equation, my irritation on their original multi-year NBC contract with nothing to show for "achieving" it.

I love seeing them at bowl games. I personally love seeing them get beat. :tongue:

Hold on a second Mr., OSU beat ND last time they went head to head. Wasn't it the Fiesta Bowl in Tempe in 2005? And, yes, I know ND was 9-3 in Weis's inaugural season.

Oh, and the SEC probably has the most athletes accepted that were rejected as academically ineligible at other schools (the woes of Miami, and the fans can tell you stories about the truth of that statement. BLAME SHALALA, BLAME SHALALA for improving the academic standards. Sheesh.).

AND, Tressel needs to hired a FRICKING offensive coordinator. The loss to USC was totally on him and poor clock management. The loss to Florida? Urban Meyer is an Ohio guy. Pffft.

Please, know that I don't hate ND. Hate is very strong word.;)

. . . when I was watching in the 2nd qtr. and there was no call in the pass interference and then an intentional grounding penalty (USC) vice the FUMBLE call (Notre Dame recovery), it became apparent that Notre Dame was suffering from a distinct case of "home field advantage". I absolutely hate that. However, that 1 second pass by Clausen. WTH? There was a wide open man! It would have been difficult, but tying it would have been "legendary". Clausen has a tendency to be a performance day underachiever?

Originally Posted by Joe33 Respectfully, I think this statement is just plain crazy. Claussen's stats speak for themselves and he's doing it without one of the (if not THE) best receiver in the nation (Michael Floyd). He has come from behind in the 4th qtr. to seal the win (count them) 4 times this year, and he did so HURT. Anyone who makes fun of turf toe has never had it. It should have been 5 times, but they lost the Michigan game (mostly IMO) due to poor coaching and the worst (almost conspiratorial) officiating I have ever seen in my lifetime. And I am not one to complain about officiating as usually it all evens out. As for the USC game, I was there and didn't have the advantage of replay, so I don't have a good feel for whether or not it was a "hometown job"- could have been. I do know that, had it not been for alot of personal fouls against USC, ND would have never been in that game.

I get the Notre Dame PR spiel. Clausen was the most recruited player out of high school. He left Southern California to go to ND. yadda, yadda, yadda. BTW, I like him. I do not care what he did in the other 4 games, he should never have made that ridiculous "freshman mistake" pass, appearing as if he "choked". He was playing USC, he needed to step up his game. And, what is with the wildcat offense being used with such a highly recruited QB on the sidelines? Michael Floyd?

The calls on USC were legit for personal fouls. Punks.

It seems that the refs, or the audience or whomever wanted Florida and USC to win this weekend. Arkansas had some horrendous calls go against them in the 3rd qtr. too. I know you don't call offensive pass interference much, but come'on.

Originally Posted by Joe33 Totally agree w/ you here. I don't think there should be conference refs. I think there should only be NCAA refs. I don't want part-time insurance salesman who live in Ann Arbor officiating Michigan games, as an example.


I am not at all sure, but I thought it was Big 12 Conference officials at the ND v. USC game. But, I see that as a potential problem all on its own too. The good thing is that even if the officials are calling a "lose or tight" game depending on the locale, with the advent of instant replay and game review, bad officiating is getting called out more and more with fines and suspensions for incompetent officiating. I do not think officiating determines the outcome of games, most of the time.

I know of a full-time real estate executive who was an official for the ACC. He officiated one bowl game a season as well as regular season games. I agree they should not officiate their own conference team against a different conference team.

[Joe33]

The wind factor during the game had a lot to do with the outcome, IOWA's 3rd Qtr. problems and Indiana's 3rd Qtr. success. IMO.


I have ONE family member that went there too. The others went to top 10 schools. We try to be nice and tolerant. Just say to yourself "I will stop the cycle!" :biggrin: I TRY to be an Irish realist.....:biggrin:


First, I never said that ND should not accept a bowl bid. That is a quantum leap on your part. The school counts on the revenue, the other programs at Notre Dame besides football count on the revenue. They should not get invited. But because they have national fans . . . I was more or less focusing, making an equation, my irritation on their original multi-year NBC contract with nothing to show for "achieving" it.
Point taken and my apologies for the leap. I HATE the NBC contract, so you and I are in agreement here. The first reason is that it does "smell funny". I don't like that they are the only TEAM to have such a contract. However, from what I have heard, they do not make any more $ of this than conferences and their teams do with network contracts. That may or may not be true, so I'll tread lightly there.

I love seeing them at bowl games. I personally love seeing them get beat. :tongue:

Hold on a second Mr., OSU beat ND last time they went head to head. Wasn't it the Fiesta Bowl in Tempe in 2005? And, yes, I know ND was 9-3 in Weis's inaugural season.

Yes it was. ND got beat, period. But it was a pretty good game as I recall (subjective I know). This is an exception to the "Ohio State rule". And I'm not trying to pick on OSU, just using them as an example.

Oh, and the SEC probably has the most athletes accepted that were rejected as academically ineligible at other schools (the woes of Miami, and the fans can tell you stories about the truth of that statement. BLAME SHALALA, BLAME SHALALA for improving the academic standards. Sheesh.). No doubt!

AND, Tressel needs to hired a FRICKING offensive coordinator. The loss to USC was totally on him and poor clock management. The loss to Florida? Urban Meyer is an Ohio guy. Pffft. And traditionally I've always thought Tressel did an excellent job in his coach hiring. But I do think USC is probably the better team, not by much, but better. Prior is grossly overrated in my opinion and I know ALOT of Buckeye fans who feel that way.

Please, know that I don't hate ND. Hate is very strong word.;)


I get the Notre Dame PR spiel. Clausen was the most recruited player out of high school. He left Southern California to go to ND. yadda, yadda, yadda. BTW, I like him. I do not care what he did in the other 4 games, he should never have made that ridiculous "freshman mistake" pass, appearing as if he "choked". He was playing USC, he needed to step up his game. And, what is with the wildcat offense being used with such a highly recruited QB on the sidelines? Michael Floyd? Well, the wildcat is generally working. Golden Tate can run like a gazelle, so I don't mind it. I'm not sure what you're asking about Michael Floyd.
My intention here was not to throw "spiel" at you. I was trying to make a case for how good and clutch I think Claussen is (he was a cocky 18 year old kid and should not have been so brazen when he showed up in South Bend- stupid). I watched the final play of the USC game over and over once I got home. I think you're talking about #9 Kyle Rudolph being open in the back of the endzone. HOWEVER, I believe w/ all my heart that, had #18 Kumara not slipped and fallen, that ball would have been caught. He was the primary receiver and the ball was thrown where/when it needed to be. I don't know if ND would have pulled out the game, but I think it would have been a TD. But honestly, you could be right- maybe he should have gone to Rudolph. My point is that he has demonstrated over and over again that he can come back and win, while hurt. And the Heisman voters have taken notice of this fact and his video-game like stats. Granted, it didn't happen on that day vs. USC, on the biggest of stages! How I wish it had.

The calls on USC were legit for personal fouls. Punks.


I am not at all sure, but I thought it was Big 12 Conference officials at the ND v. USC game. But, I see that as a potential problem all on its own too. The good thing is that even if the officials are calling a "lose or tight" game depending on the locale, with the advent of instant replay and game review, bad officiating is getting called out more and more with fines and suspensions for incompetent officiating. I do not think officiating determines the outcome of games, most of the time. I think it was a PAC10 officiating crew, so it couldn't have been a "hometown job". But that doesn't mean there weren't some bad calls in favor of ND. The fake field goal that gave ND their first TD is one example. Completely agree w/ your comments on replay, review, and officiating deciding games. It's rare that officiating really does "lose" a game.

I know of a full-time real estate executive who was an official for the ACC. He officiated one bowl game a season as well as regular season games. I agree they should not officiate their own conference team against a different conference team.

....

[TJ2JM1783]

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To say Pryor is grossly overrated is a huge understatement. :biggrin: I agree.

Your analysis of ND's last play of the game is . . . Maybe. ND gives a good game, I'll grant you that!

(Did you happen to watch the Texas v. Ohio State game in 2005? The year Texas won the National Championship over USC? Ask your Ohio State fans/friends about that game and see what they say. And, you say Ohio State cannot compete at the National Championship? :tongue:)

[Joe33]

To say Pryor is grossly overrated is a huge understatement. :biggrin: I agree.

Your analysis of the ND's last play of the game is . . . Maybe. ND gives a good game, I'll grant you that!

I can live with that. I really believe he would have made the catch.....maybe. :biggrin:

I wouldn't have said the same thing last year, because Kumara used to suck. But he's improved alot. Who knows?

But I'd go with Rudolph any day of the week if possible.

Regarding another subject entirely, I am shocked at how "bad" Michigan is at this point in the year. Crushed by Illinois? Really?

[TJ2JM1783]

I can live with that. I really believe he would have made the catch.....maybe. :biggrin:

I wouldn't have said the same thing last year, because Kumara used to suck. But he's improved alot. Who knows?

But I'd go with Rudolph any day of the week if possible.

Regarding another subject entirely, I am shocked at how "bad" Michigan is at this point in the year. Crushed by Illinois? Really?

Reread my comments on the prior post. :biggrin:

RICH RODRIGUEZ has to go, along with the AD. The players do not like him, the fans hate him, and they loss their chance 2 years ago to get an alumnus that was a TOP NOTCH national coach. And, an alumnus who has since won a national championship. The AD is a bigger idiot than Rodriguez, aka the "latino denier".

On another subject, did you ever see the HBO special "Breaking the Huddle: The Integration of College Football"?

[Joe33]

Reread my comments on the prior post. :biggrin:

RICH RODRIGUEZ has to go, along with the AD. The players do not like him, the fans hate him, and they loss their chance 2 years ago to get an alumnus that was a TOP NOTCH national coach. And, an alumnus who has since won a national championship. The AD is a bigger idiot than Rodriguez, aka the "latino denier".

On another subject, did you ever see the HBO special "Breaking the Huddle: The Integration of College Football"?

Of the Michigan fans I know, that seems to be the consensus. Transitions at huge programs like Michigan are difficult at best. I just thought they'd be further along than they are. And I do not like that guy. He and Weis can both suck it as far as I'm concerned.

Never did see that HBO Special, but I will most certainly check it out! I have HBO on demand so maybe it's on there......thanks for the heads up.

[Wootnik]

All I can say is thank you Paul Finebaum. Alabama was very very close to having Rod.

[Wootnik]

Well, my day started off as any normal Saturday. I was watching some games then saw a Subway's Buffalo Chicken sub commercial. That commercial got me hungry so I went to Subway. While there a guy said his dad got sick and couldn't use his Bama vs LSU tickets. I got a good deal for 2 tickets (lower level) for 60 dollars. I live in Birmingham so I called my friend to see if he wanted to go (this was at 1:30pm) got to Tuscaloosa in record time, sprinted around 1 1/2 miles (suprised I had it in me still)and got just after the 1st possession.

Was one hell of a game.

Moral of the story? Watch Commercials and stay in shape so you don't walk into a stadium full of hot chicks with butt sweat.

[Husker19D30]

Just waking up the morning after the best college football experience I've ever had. Great time tailgating, and then an electric atmosphere in the stands for an amazing game.

Go Big Red!

[Longrifle]

. . . don't walk into a stadium full of hot chicks with butt sweat.
What's wrong with hot chicks with butt sweat?:eek::biggrin:

ROLLLLLLLL TIDE ROLL!!!!!!!

[low country]

Just waking up the morning after the best college football experience I've ever had. Great time tailgating, and then an electric atmosphere in the stands for an amazing game.

Go Big Red!

HUSKERS!!!!!!!!!!!! BACK IN BLACK!

If we had an "average" offense we would be top 5 this year. Unsure where the O is, but I hope it shows up the remaining 3 games and we take the North.

[Wootnik]

Bama is 2 in BCS, 3 in AP. Nice to see LSU didn't drop below USC.


BCS Standings
RK TEAM RECORD
1 Florida 9-0
2 Alabama 9-0
3 Texas 9-0
4 TCU 9-0
5 Cincinnati 9-0
6 Boise State 9-0
7 Georgia Tech 9-1
8 LSU 7-2
9 USC 7-2
10 Iowa 9-1
11 Ohio State 8-2
12 Pittsburgh 8-1
13 Oregon 7-2
14 Miami (FL) 7-2
15 Houston 8-1
16 Utah 8-1
17 Arizona 6-2
18 Penn State 8-2
19 Oklahoma State 7-2
20 Wisconsin 7-2
21 Virginia Tech 6-3
22 Brigham Young 7-2
23 Oregon State 6-3
24 South Florida 6-2
25 West Virginia 7-2

[slowloud&harmless]

Quarterback goes down and so does the perfect record. Oh well, next man in.

[gryan1966]

Ohio State/Meatchicken game this weekend

GO BUCKS

[Highspeed160th]

And any other Mich. fans:









I thought the Freshman from Iowa was awesome under the circumstances! Can he play fo rthe Browns tonight?

[Andraste]

Moral of the story? Watch Commercials and stay in shape so you don't walk into a stadium with butt sweat.

This post is worthless without pics.

[19MIKE]

I had a great day yesterday.

Me and a buddy took our young son's up to watch "The Game" as it is called...the 126th meeting of Yale vs. Harvard. It's the first time that I had ever attended.

I know, I know, it's not Texas-Oklahoma or Florida-Georgia...but the atmosphere was perfect.... 61 degrees, sun shining, small college football, 40-50,000 people (inside the stadium and out)...tailgating, alumni, history, co-eds, mosh-pits...did I mention co-eds?:biggrin:

A couple things stood out besides the game.

1) I don't know what the styles are around the country, but up this way the girls are into black leotard leggings with knee high boots and a shirt or sweater that ends at the waist....pretty provocative....(sorry no pics).

2) And...I have to admit that it was somehow gratifying to watch some of the best and the brightest that attend these fine institutions become absolutely falling down shitfaced drunk...somehow they don't look so smart propped up against a fence or wearing their underwear on the outside of their cloths :rolleyes:....but I digress.

But it was all good, I can't think of a better way to spend a beautiful fall day.

Oh yeah...and UCONN beat Notre Dame!:smile:

[18Dwife]

LSU WHO ? HOTTY TODDY :p Yesterday was a great day ,now if they can just beat MSU It will be a perfect season FOR ME !

Ole Miss - The Good

LSU - The Bad

MSU- The Ugly

[Lagnaippe]

Oh LSU. I'm no longer a fan. I'm going back to my first love...Go Huskers!

[Husker19D30]

Oh LSU. I'm no longer a fan. I'm going back to my first love...Go Huskers!

That's what I'm talkin' about! Big XII North champions! (which is kind of like saying 'fastest swimmer in the rock garden', but still....)

[Lagnaippe]

Yes...but watching them win Saturday night was awesome! At half time, my mom changed into her Husker's sweat shirt, my step son (a huge LSU fan living in Mississippi but wearing an Ole Miss flat-billed baseball cap) said, "OK, if they get one more TD, I'll be a Huskers fan," my son ran to his room and grabbed his "Go Big Red" felt, #1 hand prop, and I waltzed into the kitchen to make my beer red. Needless to say, the second half was even more fun than the first!

[Wootnik]

I heard UT is thinking about changing their helmets. Below is the one in the lead.

http://www.socnet.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=123

[Wootnik]

Well the Iron Bowl turned out to be a nail biter. All I can say to Auburn fans is Charlie Weis had a moral victory around 4 yrs ago against USC.

ROLL TIDE

[jane]

Mizzou-KU, what a great game. Even tho' Mangino screwed up the play call late in the game, I don't think a victory would have been enough to save his job. I'm still worried about Mizzou being a good rival to the Huskers next year. Go Huskers! Big 12 Championship, I've good a good feeling about it.

[Longrifle]

Well the Iron Bowl turned out to be a nail biter.

ROLL TIDE
If Bama plays like that against Florida, they're gonna be a Rolled Tide.

Ugh!:rolleyes:

[MacDuff]

I heard UT is thinking about changing their helmets. Below is the one in the lead.

http://www.socnet.com/picture.php?albumid=16&pictureid=123

I like it anyway.

We (UK) had a hell of a game against them tonight. Too bad we fucked it up at the end and lost in overtime.

[pittsburghgrl]

Here is another vote for LSU -- down with the Gators :tongue:!

BOOOO! Gracie! I thought we were friends! Go Gators! :tongue:

[pittsburghgrl]

Heheh.....hahahahaha......HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH AHAHAHAHAH



Maybe if LSU, Auburn, Alabama and Florida get put in some other conference. :biggrin:



GEAUX Tigers!

Hmmmm...don't you usually cheer for Arkansas? traitor....I'm tellin' Susan. :tongue:

[TennesseeDave]

This isn't a big surprise. Let the betting begin on who the successor will be.

Notre Dame fired coach Charlie Weis on Monday after a string of disappointing seasons that was capped by an agonizing four-game losing streak

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4700891

[TXAggie05]

Stoops :confused: Meyer :confused: Kelly :confused:

[eltrane]

I hope Kelly stays where he is. He has been instrumental in getting the Bearcats program on the map, and IMO, would be better served staying put instead taking on the ND mantle.

[redhawk]

As a Notre Dame fan I am breathing a sigh of relief. From the beginning I was skeptical of his ability to manage a team.

What put me over the edge was the Pitt game last year. It went into 3OT but could have easily been ended in the 4th quarter... or maybe the 3rd. Notre Dame could not run the ball last year. Everyone knew this. Charlie wouldn't budge. During the Pitt game he wanted to establish a run game. He dragged that bullshit into the last minute of the game running it on 3rd and long. Notre Dame's O-line (prior to this season) couldn't put 5 14 y/o's on their heels much less their asses.
WTF :mad:

At least he was a nice guy unlike that asshole Bob Davie.

[Joe33]

As a Notre Dame fan I am breathing a sigh of relief. From the beginning I was skeptical of his ability to manage a team.

What put me over the edge was the Pitt game last year. It went into 3OT but could have easily been ended in the 4th quarter... or maybe the 3rd. Notre Dame could not run the ball last year. Everyone knew this. Charlie wouldn't budge. During the Pitt game he wanted to establish a run game. He dragged that bullshit into the last minute of the game running it on 3rd and long. Notre Dame's O-line (prior to this season) couldn't put 5 14 y/o's on their heels much less their asses.
WTF :mad:

At least he was a nice guy unlike that asshole Bob Davie.

As a lifelong ND fan, I concur. I'm very relieved he's gone and every defensive coach must also be fired, although they sort of already are by default. Charlie is arrogant, but has a good heart. He has no business whatsoever in college coaching. He'll go back to where he belongs, in the NFL.

I hope and do believe that Brian Kelly will be named the new HC in 2010. Cincy has a huge game coming up against Pitt and then a BCS bowl probably. He won't do anything until that's all over.

Kelly is a great fit for ND and I'd love to see him there. Sorry UC fans- I've been rooting for your team all year. But when he sees the South Bend area code on his caller ID, the 'For Sale' sign will already be up in his yard.

[GracieLou]

BOOOO! Gracie! I thought we were friends! Go Gators! :tongue:

We are, but I still hate Florida :biggrin:. Go Bama....

[Wootnik]

Sitting at my desk at work thinking "Only 10 more hours and I will be on the road to Atlanta" and hopefully in around 1 more month will be on a flight to Pasadena.

Roll Tide!

[Husker19D30]

So Coach Mangino is now job hunting. I'm sure someone at the Pillsbury company would love to get him in one of those chef hats.

I love the fact that my team is in a position to spoil the entire BCS system Saturday night. I don't think we'll pull it off, but ya' never know.

Go Big Red!!

[Wootnik]

I want Nebraska to win, not that I am scared to play Texas, I just think TCU is the better team.

[redhawk]

I hope and do believe that Brian Kelly will be named the new HC in 2010.
...
Kelly is a great fit for ND and I'd love to see him there. Sorry UC fans- I've been rooting for your team all year. But when he sees the South Bend area code on his caller ID, the 'For Sale' sign will already be up in his yard.
No way, Jose! :biggrin: I was behind Kelly until I started reading and talking to a friend of mine who did scouting for MAC schools.
1. Apparently he is still verbal with his Democratic politics. Read: pro-choice.
2. Skeleton #1 is that there were some accusations of improper affairs/sexual harassment when he was at CMU.
3. Skeleton #2 is that his players (at CMU at least) loathed him. Apparently, he insulted and berated players for minor things.

We'll see. Just like O'Leary, if he gets the call, the digging will begin.

[Longrifle]

ROLL TIDE!!

Went there, saw that, and got the T-shirt! Helluva game!!!

[eltrane]

Rumor mill saying Kelly will be the next ND coach.

[Wootnik]

ROLL TIDE! Probably the best game Alabama has played all year.

[Devildoc]

The game of the day, 'THE' game today, was the C-USA championship. Sorry Rat. Go Pirates! I understand teams from Florida and Alabama played too?

[Wootnik]

Looks like it will be Bama vs Texas, unless TCU or Cincinnati bypasses Texas in rankings since they didn't do much tonight.

[bmbsqd]

Georgia Tech Yellow Jackets...ACC Champs! Orange Bowl here we come!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Husker19D30]

Dang, to have gotten SO close! At least we gave all the pollsters a reason to doubt Texas. Our defense N-Dominated them!

[low country]

Dang, to have gotten SO close! At least we gave all the pollsters a reason to doubt Texas. Our defense N-Dominated them!

The Blackshirts are back!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
SUH dominated Colt and the Horns. If we could just get anemic on O, we would be playing for the NC right now.

[dcg]

The Tide rolled in, and when it rolled out, there were lots of Gators left high and dry...

I don't think they will put Cinncinatti or TCU ahead of Texas. If they do, I hope to god it's not Cinn. I watched their game with Pitt before the Bama game, and it was kind of silly. Neither team has a defense, as evidenced by the friggin 80 some odd points they put up...

[TPD1280]

DUCKS ARE GOING TO PASADENA!!!!

[Wootnik]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4111912

Let the Bowl season begin.

On a side note I am currently taking donations to get my happy ass a ticket to the BCS National Championship game and a flight to Pasadena. I am kidding of course, but donations for beer while I am there will be accepted.

[BOFH]

So the wife and I have a wager...she's a UT graduate, and hardcore longhorns fan. I'm a staunch Alabama fan. If the Tide wins, she has to wear one of my Bama shirts every day for a week, and post a picture on her *cringe* myspace. If the Horns win, I have to wear a longhorns shirt, and post the picture here. Gotta say, though, I don't think the 'horns have a chance.

[billdawg]

So the wife and I have a wager...she's a UT graduate, and hardcore longhorns fan. I'm a staunch Alabama fan. If the Tide wins, she has to wear one of my Bama shirts every day for a week, and post a picture on her *cringe* myspace. If the Horns win, I have to wear a longhorns shirt, and post the picture here. Gotta say, though, I don't think the 'horns have a chance.

As a Bama fan,you of all people shoudl know better. Remember last years Sugar Bowl?

[BOFH]

Lol...true...but I couldn't pass up the possibility of getting her in a Bama jersey...in front of people.

[Longrifle]

Quoting from the Gospel according to Saban: "Tebow wept."

[Husker19D30]

Suhhhh! Nebraska Defensive Tackle Ndamukong Suh a finalist for the 2009 Heisman Trophy!

[I'm Lost]

Quoting from the Gospel according to Saban: "Tebow wept."

:30 min after the game was over, the facebook group "I saw Tim Tebow cry and it made me smile" had 1100 some odd members...

[Lagnaippe]

Suhhhh! Nebraska Defensive Tackle Ndamukong Suh a finalist for the 2009 Heisman Trophy!

If I had a dollar for every Facebook friend who has "fanned" this guy, I'd be eating dinner for free...twice! Seriously, he's pretty awesome. Now, if he ends up being drafted and comes to New Orleans, I'll be thrilled!

[Husker19D30]

If I had a dollar for every Facebook friend who has "fanned" this guy, I'd be eating dinner for free...twice! Seriously, he's pretty awesome. Now, if he ends up being drafted and comes to New Orleans, I'll be thrilled!

NO isn't likely to get him, since they'll be awfully high in the draft order. I just don't want to see him go to Detroit.

[Lagnaippe]

NO isn't likely to get him, since they'll be awfully high in the draft order. I just don't want to see him go to Detroit.

I still believe in miracles.:smile:

[Wootnik]

http://sports.espn.go.com/ncf/news/story?id=4774134

1st he retires then he says he is just taking a vacation for a year.

[Highspeed160th]

Can't Tebow heal him?

Just kidding I hope he lives a long life, but I'm wondering...

[Wootnik]

Yeah, I was wondering also. A lot of friends and myself were betting on him resigning after Teebow leaves, but we were more just thinking that once Teebow leaves they really aren't going to be the same team without some type of power running QB.