Canadian Personal Equipment

[Terry Jones]

Can anybody give me a link to a private vendor of Canadian personal equipment like LBE and packs? Thanks in advance.

PS: I'll take any info you can give me about them

[This message has been edited by Terry Jones (edited 08-12-2000).]

[recce_o]

E-mail me and I'll send you an e-mail POC.

[Cree Warrior]

God, why would anyone want our equipment? It is absolute crap.

Sua Sponte

[Enfield]

I was kinda wondering that myself... Maybe the new stuff is worth buying? Surely terry can't mean the old (well, current for the Reserves) webbing and rucksack..*shudder*

Enfield

[Cree Warrior]

As in the "new" stuff I am assumming you mean from the "Tease The Soldier Program"? I doubt we'll see it for a while.

Sua Sponte.

[FNG]

Oh no, you do see that elusive uniform from time to time, but you the prospect of getting it is so remote that you think you're just heat and sleep f**ked.

I don't mind the webbing so much... it's the ruck AND webbing that bothers me.

[recce_o]

You know, if you have a liberal minded OC...

My solution is to ditch to wire pack frame and replace is with the old '64 pattern tubular one. I use an ALICE kidney pad with waist belt, but there are better ones offered by MEC. I use the 82 pattern rucksack straps which work marvellously.

I ditch my butt pack and attach the suspenders directly to the belt using the hooks and some gun tape. All the stuff that would be in my butt pack plus my officer sh*t (like binos, checklist books and stuff) go in an NBC bag that I carry under the flap of my ruck (when its not too full) or bungeed to the top. I also replaced the pack closure buckels with some fastex...makes life much easier at zero dark thirty.

On my webbing I carry 4x mag pouches, 1x canteen, 1x gas mask (or C9 pouch) 3 x U.S. first aid pouches sewn on at various strategic locations, 1x mini mag light pouch, with light. I hardly ever carry a bayonet. It's basically useless in the field. I don't think I'd be able to stretch my luck by trying to carry a K-bar. I used to draw a pistol also, but was ordered to stop this practice. (Only in Canada, eh?)

I find this ruck/webbing combo to work very well.

[TonyM]

Recce_o
I go with your idea of ditching the butt-pak. I've replaced mine with two brit utility pouches. I found that we do have the best belt. Nice and wide. All the US guys I've worked with want one. On our last ex, we did some vehicle recces, (stripped down Iltis + C6) found that the webbing is useless there too. My chest rig worked better, on occaison (can you say AMBUSH!) I was the only guy out with ammo (the others had taken the webbing off). This is up your alley, what's the best setup for these ops?

[Skip]

Hi guys,
Sabre Industries gear will be available in Canadian camo from January. Try
R Nicholls Inc
2475 De La Province Longueuil
Quebec
J4G 1G3
Canada
Phone(450) 442-9300 http://www.rnicholls.com/

Its worth checking out our chest rigs.

Ben Arnold
Sabre Industries www.sabreindustries.com (http://www.sabreindustries.com)

[garett]

Humm Canadian Cam Pat chest rigs. I wonder who would kick my ass first: My
section 2 i/c, section commander, platoon 2 i/c or platoon commander. Maybe they'd all just team up on me.

[FNG]

Hmm... word is going around that a few LFCA units will be kitted with Gortex this Sept... and more CANPAT stuff has been spotted in the CQ.

But again, I won't hold my breath.

[garett]

My unit has had the gore-tex kit since Nov 99. I got the new long underwear at the beginning of June and I hear the next thing were getting is the new gloves. So far the Royal New Brunswick Regiment is the only LFAA unit to have the gore-tex/fleece kit.

[recce_o]

Tony,

Seeing as I just got back from troop leading from the front seat of a "stripped down Iltis with a C6"...

You are totally correct. It is impossible to sit in the vehicle seat with the butt pack. I am the only person in my entire regiment who wears his webbing while seated in the vehicle. Everyone else just chucks it in the back and forgets about it.

Peronally, I like to keep it close by in case you have a make a run for it.

[Skip]

This is why chest webbing is taking off. When I was in the paras, it was an offence for either your fighting order (webbing) or your rifle to be an arms lenght away from you.

Sabre Industries chest rigs allow you to operate from vehicles, boats and aircraft in much more safety.

Check em out, www.sabreindustries.com (http://www.sabreindustries.com)

[TonyM]

Skip-
I'm a true believer in the chest rig now. Can you get me one of those CANPAT versions any sooner? While you're at it, how about your clothing line, will that be availible in CANPAT also? I'd be great to show up for an ex all decked out just to see the fur fly (and the charges!).
Our unit's not to anal in the field, we get a little leeway for recce's and patrols so I can't see a big problem with chest rigs. A few are cropping up (me included) with no fallout yet.

And, get ready for this all you guys in tight-assed units, I was talking to our RSM on our last ex and he asked me about the Dutch para course. I gave him a brief run-down and we chatted a bit about jumping, as he's jump qual'd himself. Told me, and the other guy who came with me, we can wear the wings on our DEU's over the left pocket(!!!). You gotta love a guy who can make a decision.

[Skip]

In the UK you can wear what you like as long as it's British DPM. Some units are a little more strict, but most say wear what you please.

It's good when you get an RSM whos human.

[Enfield]

A question on chest rigs - most infantry work - well, the stuff that really counts - is done on your belly. In every other circumstance a chest rig is obviously better, but in my experience most guys try keep their front's clear because it gets in the way and is inaccessible on when your on your belly. Is it worth it for dirt-bound infantry to get a chest rig?

Enfield

[Skip]

Traditional chest webbing includes pouches across your chest, which is fine for MOUNT ops, but poor for most infantry work. It also causes back problems and fatigue.

Sabre Industries has developed a front opening version, which I suppose crosses a tac vest with a chest rig.

Providing gear where it can be accessed, but compatible with parachuting/rappelling and bouyancy gear.

Ben Arnold
Sabre Industries www.sabreindustries.com (http://www.sabreindustries.com)

[Tactical Keld]

I got a review of my Arktis Chestrig up here: www.tactical.dk (http://www.tactical.dk)

Regards,
Keld www.tactical.dk (http://www.tactical.dk)