Bad mouthing the U.S. or our government to a foreign national while abroad

[Justaclerk]

While eating breakfast this morning in a foreign country (India) I bore witness to one of the most sickening un-American acts I could possibly witness. An American, who from the conversation was in my prejudiced opinion a complete assclown, began denigrating the U.S. and our government in front of his tablemate, a foreign national of ME origin (from the snippets of the conversation it appeared that the FN was from Dubai).

Now I don't mind it when there's a disagreement among fellow countrymen on POTUS, government policies or our citizens, but when you start bad mouthing us to a Hadji (or any other FN) on foreign soil one steps over the fucking line. The unfortunate part is I didn't have time to separate the assclown from his "friend" and make an on the spot correction. I apologize for that.

Donning an abestos suit and Kevlar for the inevitable withering fire I'm about to take.

[smoked]

While eating breakfast this morning in a foreign country (India) I bore witness to one of the most sickening un-American acts I could possibly witness. An American, who from the conversation was in my prejudiced opinion a complete assclown, began denigrating the U.S. and our government in front of his tablemate, a foreign national of ME origin (from the snippets of the conversation it appeared that the FN was from Dubai).

Now I don't mind it when there's a disagreement among fellow countrymen on POTUS, government policies or our citizens, but when you start bad mouthing us to a Hadji (or any other FN) on foreign soil one steps over the fucking line. The unfortunate part is I didn't have time to separate the assclown from his "friend" and make an on the spot correction. I apologize for that.

Donning an abestos suit and Kevlar for the inevitable withering fire I'm about to take.

No apology required. That assclown has no bounds. That said, I haven't met one who did. They are who they are no matter where they are.

[Longrifle]

Freedom of speech. It guarantees asshats the right to make fools of themselves in public places and be recognized as such.

When I hear someone disrespecting his country, I have no respect for them.

That includes "global apology tours."

[Lannister]

Freedom of Speech shouldn't only apply to us here in the USA...

That said... I've wanted to slap the shit out of plenty of tree-hugging, hippy-assed, American NGOs in several different parts of the world. Hell, I didn't even like former POTUS Bush, but found myself defending him against Americans to foreign crowds.

At some point, I learned to just NOT engage them in conversation, and to simply ignore them.

[Greenhat]

Freedom of Speech shouldn't only apply to us here in the USA....

Steel on target

[Massgrunt]

He's free to say it, I'm free to publicly call him a worthless motherfucker. I've never seen that in person, but I remember seeing Dennis Haysbert mocking GW Bush on Australian tv while the Australians were fighting a war with us. He's a piece of shit in my opinion. Few things lower than kissing the ass of foreigners by bashing your own.

[hawkdrver]

Reminds me of a story. Little long, sorry.

My civilian job involves a lot of international airline travel, and I'd say about 1 time out of 10, I get sat next to the guy who figures out I'm American and decides to occupy the next 6 hours hammering me on U.S. politics and foreign policy.

It's not the topics that get to me, it's usually the approach. I'm have to admit I'm always a little surprised when someone thinks a good conversational opener is "Hey, let me tell you what's fucked up about your government and your country in general", but I'm not nearly as surprised as they are when they get my response. Needless to say the conversation from that point doesn't normally go the way they intended. It's not like I'm wearing a NASCAR hat and a peace through superior firepower T-shirt, so I'm not really sure what sets these dudes off. Phermones maybe.

Anyway, a few years ago, I'm going through some company training and my training partner is a way left, like just short of 9-11 conspiracy theory left, kind of guy. Good dude overall - still a good friend of mine today, actually, good guy to drink beer and watch baseball with - but a more Bush-hating, anti-war, pro Hillary etc, guy you will not find. He's also smart as hell, and we had many, many discussions/arguments/fuck you contests, heated and non, over a period of several months about politics and all the other shit that you would expect. Needless to say, I didn't change his mind on anything.

Fast forward about a year, I get home from a trip and I get a call from this guy from Paris. He says - "Just wanted to let you know I stuck up for George Bush today." :eek:

Apparently he got the "You American? Let me tell you what's fucked up about your government and your country in general" from the guy he was sitting next to on the plane, at which point he took a deep breath, went transmit only and proceeded to break it off in this guy's ass for about a half hour.

When I finished laughing, I asked what the hell had happened to him, and he said - "Hey man - like Charlie Daniels said, 'we may have done a little bit of fightin amongst ourselves, but you outside people best leave us alone' "

Even your hard core liberals will surprise you every now and then.

:biggrin:

[MixedLoad]

It's the thing to do apparently. Every time I've been around Brits that particular topic comes up and they begin to give me the "we're superior in every aspect" speech.

I used to argue, now I walk away. It's boring and irrelevant to my life what some two bit assclown says about us. He obviously has no sack and no pride in our amazing country.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

I've been abroad quite often and had multiple dealings with anti-American folks.
Particularly from touring Europe a few times in a HC/punk band, I dealt with countless anachro "down with the USA" types.

But true to the Mark Twain quote in my signature line, I may not always argue in defense of our government, but I sure as shit have always stood up for and, with great righteousness, argued in defense or our nation, it's people, and our principles.
I have never apologized for my patriotism or my service... even at the expense of getting laid.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

***

[Doctor_Doom]

It's the thing to do apparently. Every time I've been around Brits that particular topic comes up and they begin to give me the "we're superior in every aspect" speech.

I used to argue, now I walk away. It's boring and irrelevant to my life what some two bit assclown says about us. He obviously has no sack and no pride in our amazing country.

The Brits have been doing that since 1776... they have a chip on their shoulder.

[Believeraz]

The Brits have been doing that since 1776... they have a chip on their shoulder.

Nobody likes a sore loser.

[BKK]

I have been living OCONUS for the past 7 years, and don't waste my time discussing the USA, or politics to anyone who is not a close friend, or some who I know we see eye to eye.

When I get into that airline seat next to some clown, I just tell him I am from Canada for PERSEC and avoiding these talks about the USA. That tends to bypass all that American venting people seem to want to do. Normally because they can't talk about how fucked up their own country is.

Then if they actually do know I am from the USA, and want to get into politics, I just tell them point blank that I don't talk about politics. It is not my duty to deflect all the stupid shit that people want to rant about. I just don't have the time or desire to waste any energy on that.

Getting into a pissing contest on who's country is better is just stupid. There are a lot of good things about America, but there also plenty of things I personally don't care for. You can say that about most any place in the world.

I also think an American being offended because another American has complaints about America in front of a foreigner is a bit over-sensitive.

[Purple36]

I, of course, have the view that the guy is showing he's a potential candidate for recruitment.

Badmouthing one's own country overseas is offensive.

[Blackjack78]

I, of course, have the view that the guy is showing he's a potential candidate for recruitment.


Spot on.

[Massgrunt]

Nobody likes a sore loser.
I believe I'll be using that one fairly often, thank you.

Hawkdriver, your buddy sounds like someone I might like even if he is wrong about everything. :biggrin: Politics ends at the water's edge, something I need to remind myself of now and then.

I have thoroughly been there and done that when it comes to people from other countries wanting to vent about America towards me. I don't tolerate it. I used to try and be polite, but then said why bother since they were being douches anyway. That actually hasn't happened in a long time. The last time it did, I think I was flying from Germany to the US and a German sitting next to me wanted to while away the hours explaining to me what was wrong with George Bush, etc. He barely got started when I told him I wasn't interested in his opinion. He started to go on "But..." and I repeated that I wasn't interested at all in what he had to say. The funny thing is, he seemed surprised and taken aback like most people on planes love to spend seven hours defending their country.

I think to most people it's academic. It's just word games to them, to me and probably most others here it's very personal.

[SOTB]

The funny thing is, he seemed surprised and taken aback like most people on planes love to spend seven hours defending their country....I think it kinda goes back to what Believeraz stated. I mean, don't all of their conversations eventually boil down to jealousy?
"If we had the US' economic might, we would...."
"If we had the US' military might, we would...."
"The US is powerful and has a responsibility to...."
"We want to look up to the US as the world leader and for this to happen, you need to...."
"Because of your power, you have to...."
It's endless.

I was in Bosnia this year and one of the guys who worked on my project was a Bosnian Muslim -- you know, that moderate Muslim who drinks, fucks out of wedlock, curses and represents zero threat to your and my way of life (if anyone is missing the sarcasm here, your fault -- not mine) -- and OF COURSE, he wants to rag on the former POTUS and tell me how much hope his country has for our new one.

It only happened one day. One time. One 5 min (approx) event.

It started with HIM stating something to the effect of; "we are so happy now that you have a leader that cares about what we in the rest of the world think."

It ended with ME stating something to the effect of (most is a direct quote, but I admit that memory and my laziness of typing are playing a part here), "don't mistake my countrymen's momentary bout of voting indifference and laziness for some sort of radical shift in our thinking. We STILL care more about what is on cable TV on a Sunday night than if you eat enough to keep from starving, or if someone is trying to put a bullet in your head as you go about your day's activities. Yeah, we have hippies and hawks alike, who will rally around their little ideas -- but in the end, we're gonna do what is right for US. The only thing you can hope for is that a portion of OUR desires coincide with yours. And the beauty of our way of thinking is that even if you don't like it, you still spend half of your life trying to either get to our country or copy yours like ours, and the other half whining about how unfair we are. THAT is defined as impotence. As in your dick don't work. On a country-wide scale.

Oh, and I don't really care, so please don't bring this up again."

In general, this is my attitude everywhere, but then I am an admitted asshole....

[Forgetthisname]

The Brits have been doing that since 1776... they have a chip on their shoulder.

I like how it seems every damn country in the coalition has an Independence Day celebrating getting rid of the Brits.

[smoked]

....THAT is defined as impotence. As in your dick don't work. On a country-wide scale.



In general, this is my attitude everywhere, but then I am an admitted asshole....

That's just funny. LMAO!

[MakoZeroSix]

So does that mean I can't get shitfaced and rave to Europeans I meet that "OMFG! I can't beleive we don't use the metric system like you guys. Celsius just makes so much sense!!"
:tongue:

[Dumpsterchair]

I get this all the time as I am usually on some sort of international flight about once a month. It does amaze me that many of them seem to be waiting for an apology. It tells me that they likely do get apologies from the other Americans they speak with, which is unfortunate.

I just got back from a week of working with UN and European Union folks and I was bracing for impact, being the sole US representative. They all actually surprised me and never broached politics, which was nice.

[ibquiet]

As you can imagine, north of the 49th we have an overabundance of Lefty's, and they always seem to pick me out as an American, I consider it my duty to piss them off, and one surefire way, is to make them realize, they are American too!!

Flight to Phoenix;

Him: You American?

Me: Yes I am.

Him: Where you from?

Me: Calgary.

Him: Your Canadian then, not American?

Me: I am a Canadian Citizen.

Him: So your NOT American?!

Me: What fucking continent do you live on????

Nice quiet flight after that.

[SOTB]

Me: What fucking continent do you live on????

Nice quiet flight after that.HAHAHAHHAHA I got something similar from a taxi-driver in Mexico City once.

Him: So where are you from?

Me: America.

Him: Me too! This is N. America, right?

Me: Ahh, OK -- I mean -- the United States.

Him: Me too! The United States of Mexico.

Me: STFU and drive me to the airport....:o:biggrin:

[HighDragLowSpeed]

While eating breakfast this morning in a foreign country (India) I bore witness to one of the most sickening un-American acts I could possibly witness. An American, who from the conversation was in my prejudiced opinion a complete assclown, began denigrating the U.S. and our government in front of his tablemate, a foreign national of ME origin (from the snippets of the conversation it appeared that the FN was from Dubai).

Now I don't mind it when there's a disagreement among fellow countrymen on POTUS, government policies or our citizens, but when you start bad mouthing us to a Hadji (or any other FN) on foreign soil one steps over the fucking line. The unfortunate part is I didn't have time to separate the assclown from his "friend" and make an on the spot correction. I apologize for that.

Donning an abestos suit and Kevlar for the inevitable withering fire I'm about to take.

Sounds like a good number of Peace Corps folks and/or Fulbright scholars that I've chatted with. Of course, it's usually the same folks that have no problem enjoying the cafeteria and/or pool at the embassy when it suits them either.

[Lannister]

Sounds like a good number of Peace Corps folks and/or Fulbright scholars that I've chatted with. Of course, it's usually the same folks that have no problem enjoying the cafeteria and/or pool at the embassy when it suits them either.

Yep...

When I was deployed with Dyn, we used to get the "war-monger," "military industrial complex," "Halliburton" schtick from the "Relief-Web (http://www.reliefweb.int/rw/res.nsf/doc212?OpenForm)," NGO youngsters after they had a few beers...

The funny part about this was when these same idiots would ask us if they could come to our camp if the conflict re-started to avoid being genocided...:rolleyes:

[Massgrunt]

I think it kinda goes back to what Believeraz stated. I mean, don't all of their conversations eventually boil down to jealousy?I like to compare it to other countries sitting by the phone on a Saturday night waiting for us to call. "You know what, I don't even care what America's doing, I'm seeing so many other countries I wouldn't see America again if it asked me."

I don't really feel a need to defend America. I just roll my eyes and get sarcastic. Not that the need arises very often.

[BKK]

I reached the point of fuck it, when I realized that how fucking rude can somebody be to instantly start badmouthing someones country and president when they first meet someone. I vowed that I was not going to let anyone take me down that road for their own personal enjoyment.

Talking about politics is bullshit anyways. There is no sense "Debating" opposite views because we have all been formulated by years, and decades of programing by life and the media. To think that I am actually going to change the mind of a polar opposite (Or someone change mine) is insane.

[Massgrunt]

I reached the point of fuck it, when I realized that how fucking rude can somebody be to instantly start badmouthing someones country and president when they first meet someone. I vowed that I was not going to let anyone take me down that road for their own personal enjoyment.

Talking about politics is bullshit anyways. There is no sense "Debating" opposite views because we have all been formulated by years, and decades of programing by life and the media. To think that I am actually going to change the mind of a polar opposite (Or someone change mine) is insane.

You're pretty much reading my mind. I agree totally.

[Forgetthisname]

I reached the point of fuck it, when I realized that how fucking rude can somebody be to instantly start badmouthing someones country and president when they first meet someone. I vowed that I was not going to let anyone take me down that road for their own personal enjoyment.

Talking about politics is bullshit anyways. There is no sense "Debating" opposite views because we have all been formulated by years, and decades of programing by life and the media. To think that I am actually going to change the mind of a polar opposite (Or someone change mine) is insane.

Heh, yeah thats pretty much the long and the short of it. Debating definitely has to be put in quotes. If there is 0% chance of changing either party's mind, its not a debate, its just vomiting opinions at each other.

[Cujo]

I reached the point of fuck it, when I realized that how fucking rude can somebody be to instantly start badmouthing someones country and president when they first meet someone. I vowed that I was not going to let anyone take me down that road for their own personal enjoyment.

Talking about politics is bullshit anyways. There is no sense "Debating" opposite views because we have all been formulated by years, and decades of programing by life and the media. To think that I am actually going to change the mind of a polar opposite (Or someone change mine) is insane.

Totally agree. I was in Greece a few years back and ran into an Aussie who just walked up to me and asked, "What do you think about Bush and his bullshit policies? We are sick of it in Australia."

I just replied "Dude, seriously?" and walked away. It isn't worth it...

[Soldier415]

I live in the SF Bay Area in California. I have to deal with this type of stuff on a frequent basis.

I think my favorite exchange was one when I was in uniform and happened across some Code Pink(o) ladies.

Them: why do you fight just for oil?!

Me: Because it's their fault.

Them: Whose?

Me: The Arabs. for being on our oil before we got there.

I then exit stage left while they sputter and have a meltdown.

Gotta keep yourself entertained.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

Back in 1994, I was loading into a club in Hannover on the day US forces went into Haiti.

A drunk German anarchist punk rock kid with a chip on his shoulder yelled at me, "you invaded Haiti, you fucking Americans."
I laughed it off and said, "what are you talking about? I didn't invade Haiti. I'm here in Hannover drinking a beer and getting ready to play."
He said "you know what I mean... you fucking invaded Haiti."
I laughed again and said "fine... okay... I invaded Haiti... but you fucking invaded Poland."
He got all offended "whoa, hey, that's different...I didn't..."
I just walked away laughing and helped finish loading in.
:biggrin:

[Believeraz]

Last time I sat next to a jerk like this on an airplane, I told him "I wish I could understand you, but all I hear is irrelevant whining", put on my iPod, and dove back into my book. Thanks to Kirk for the original variant of that one...

[kpmurphy66]

Fly Business or first class. There seems to be less assclowns up there, and if there happens to be one, its a smaller area-less room for them to run :).Stay safe all.
KM

[Abu Khalil]

...to avoid all AMCIT's, and Ex-Pat's while travelling. Spent most of my adult life, protecting any AMCIT's right to disagree with me. Have no problem with different perspectives expressed by Foreign Nationals.

[MikeC2W]

Yeppers, BTDT. When they (everyone) says that they (people not in the USA) all hate us....mainly they are talking about ASSHAT Americans that happen to be abroad talking shit.

I seen it a hundred times.

Once in Korea some dumbass had the misfortune of thinking I was one of his peers in hating America. Pretty sad really, here he is teaching Korean kids how to speak English and all he can talk about is how bad it is...I asked him what was soooo bad, he started talking about 'gang violence', I asked if he was from Compton...he said no that he was from Ohio.

Fucking asshats are everywhere, when I can I try to set them straight. Living in NYC for the last 10 months I've run into plenty of them. I had a Dr. of Psychology try to tell me that America was basically a religious fundamentalist country... thank God for teachers!

[MikeC2W]

Back in 1994, I was loading into a club in Hannover on the day US forces went into Haiti.

A drunk German anarchist punk rock kid with a chip on his shoulder yelled at me, "you invaded Haiti, you fucking Americans."
I laughed it off and said, "what are you talking about? I didn't invade Haiti. I'm here in Hannover drinking a beer and getting ready to play."
He said "you know what I mean... you fucking invaded Haiti."
I laughed again and said "fine... okay... I invaded Haiti... but you fucking invaded Poland."
He got all offended "whoa, hey, that's different...I didn't..."
I just walked away laughing and helped finish loading in.
:biggrin:


Dude, that's fucking hilarious. :biggrin:

[MikeC2W]

This thread is hilarious.

[MikeC2W]

I'll be in Madrid on Sunday for a week, I can't wait to offend people!

[Joe33]

I think it kinda goes back to what Believeraz stated. I mean, don't all of their conversations eventually boil down to jealousy?
"If we had the US' economic might, we would...."
"If we had the US' military might, we would...."
"The US is powerful and has a responsibility to...."
"We want to look up to the US as the world leader and for this to happen, you need to...."
"Because of your power, you have to...."
It's endless.

I was in Bosnia this year and one of the guys who worked on my project was a Bosnian Muslim -- you know, that moderate Muslim who drinks, fucks out of wedlock, curses and represents zero threat to your and my way of life (if anyone is missing the sarcasm here, your fault -- not mine) -- and OF COURSE, he wants to rag on the former POTUS and tell me how much hope his country has for our new one.

It only happened one day. One time. One 5 min (approx) event.

It started with HIM stating something to the effect of; "we are so happy now that you have a leader that cares about what we in the rest of the world think."

It ended with ME stating something to the effect of (most is a direct quote, but I admit that memory and my laziness of typing are playing a part here), "don't mistake my countrymen's momentary bout of voting indifference and laziness for some sort of radical shift in our thinking. We STILL care more about what is on cable TV on a Sunday night than if you eat enough to keep from starving, or if someone is trying to put a bullet in your head as you go about your day's activities. Yeah, we have hippies and hawks alike, who will rally around their little ideas -- but in the end, we're gonna do what is right for US. The only thing you can hope for is that a portion of OUR desires coincide with yours. And the beauty of our way of thinking is that even if you don't like it, you still spend half of your life trying to either get to our country or copy yours like ours, and the other half whining about how unfair we are. THAT is defined as impotence. As in your dick don't work. On a country-wide scale.

Oh, and I don't really care, so please don't bring this up again."

In general, this is my attitude everywhere, but then I am an admitted asshole....

SOTB,
Would you mind if I put this on a bumper sticker and slap it on my car? Granted, it would be a very large square of a bumper sticker, but the best one ever. Perfect summation.:biggrin:

[Oldpogue]

Once in Korea some dumbass had the misfortune of thinking I was one of his peers in hating America. Pretty sad really, here he is teaching Korean kids how to speak English and all he can talk about is how bad it is...I asked him what was soooo bad, he started talking about 'gang violence', I asked if he was from Compton...he said no that he was from Ohio.


You've never heard of those dangerous cow tipping gangs in Ohio??

[HighDragLowSpeed]

I'd rather listen out a US citizen using his right to free speech to gripe than a drunk US military member downrange showing his ass.

Numerous cases seen - not always support troops either.

Had one case though where the dude got PNG'd right outta the country. He wasn't even on the same op as us. He was acting so ugly american and loudly touching on things that he shouldnt have been at the bar that I ended up pulling out my ID on him in the latrine, quietly identified myself as US military, and told him that he was drunk and should really just pay his bill and go back to his hotel.

No secret squirrel here..just stayed in the habit of not talking about being in the military while downrange. So, said dude comes outta the latrine and announces to everyone in my favorite bar (no less) that I'm actually military and summarizes the entire conversation I had with him to the entire bar. Crap. I just say to the bartender, "that dude is seriously drunk".

Next day, MILGRP CDR is asking me what happened and while I'm telling him... guess who happens to walk up the stairs at the MILGROUP...same dude from the bar. Talk about bad timing. Both our jaws drop, MILGROUP CDR pulls him in his office, and he's on the next plane home.

[MikeC2W]

I'd rather listen out a US citizen using his right to free speech to gripe than a drunk US military member downrange showing his ass.

Numerous cases seen - not always support troops either.

Had one case though where the dude got PNG'd right outta the country. He wasn't even on the same op as us. He was acting so ugly american and loudly touching on things that he shouldnt have been at the bar that I ended up pulling out my ID on him in the latrine, quietly identified myself as US military, and told him that he was drunk and should really just pay his bill and go back to his hotel.

No secret squirrel here..just stayed in the habit of not talking about being in the military while downrange. So, said dude comes outta the latrine and announces to everyone in my favorite bar (no less) that I'm actually military and summarizes the entire conversation I had with him to the entire bar. Crap. I just say to the bartender, "that dude is seriously drunk".

Next day, MILGRP CDR is asking me what happened and while I'm telling him... guess who happens to walk up the stairs at the MILGROUP...same dude from the bar. Talk about bad timing. Both our jaws drop, MILGROUP CDR pulls him in his office, and he's on the next plane home.


That's friggin awesome.

[Abu Khalil]

Is not merely a Myth. Safer to "hard right toggle, slip-away".

Doesn't always work though. Like when you meet someone on stairwell in Zenica, whom you last saw on both sides of the Congo. Elevator doors open in Bangkok, and you're facing someone from near Yorktown, VA. Ticket Counter in Schipol; "Jim, you're still ugly...".

After hoisting Pints, and laughing thereafter. Funny what went through all our minds at that instant. Can be a very small world - after all (cue Disney music).

[MakoZeroSix]

Had one case though where the dude got PNG'd right outta the country. He wasn't even on the same op as us. He was acting so ugly american and loudly touching on things that he shouldnt have been at the bar that I ended up pulling out my ID on him in the latrine, quietly identified myself as US military, and told him that he was drunk and should really just pay his bill and go back to his hotel.

No secret squirrel here..just stayed in the habit of not talking about being in the military while downrange. So, said dude comes outta the latrine and announces to everyone in my favorite bar (no less) that I'm actually military and summarizes the entire conversation I had with him to the entire bar. Crap. I just say to the bartender, "that dude is seriously drunk".


Funny...as I read this I sit in my hotel room in Belgium, being entertained by the sounds of a Lt. Colonel drunk as a loon bellowing like a wounded water buffalo every two minutes or so, sitting alone in his room next door with the lights turned out. Some motherfuckers should just stay away from booze.

If he doesn't knock it off soon I just might start hollering unintelligibly myself and see if it drives him over the edge. Or maybe I should just start sliding razor blades under the doorjam.

[bm2bob]

I'd rather listen out a US citizen using his right to free speech to gripe than a drunk US military member downrange showing his ass.

Numerous cases seen - not always support troops either.

Had one case though where the dude got PNG'd right outta the country. He wasn't even on the same op as us. He was acting so ugly american and loudly touching on things that he shouldnt have been at the bar that I ended up pulling out my ID on him in the latrine, quietly identified myself as US military, and told him that he was drunk and should really just pay his bill and go back to his hotel.

No secret squirrel here..just stayed in the habit of not talking about being in the military while downrange. So, said dude comes outta the latrine and announces to everyone in my favorite bar (no less) that I'm actually military and summarizes the entire conversation I had with him to the entire bar. Crap. I just say to the bartender, "that dude is seriously drunk".

Next day, MILGRP CDR is asking me what happened and while I'm telling him... guess who happens to walk up the stairs at the MILGROUP...same dude from the bar. Talk about bad timing. Both our jaws drop, MILGROUP CDR pulls him in his office, and he's on the next plane home.

Drunk military member showing his ass, isn't that a job requirement:smile:
I remember...hearing about... this young BM3 who told the bead of the Bahamanian consulate to get out of the way, he worked for a living as he came up the brow. Yup, did some restriction time for that stunt. I wish he could remember it!:redface:

[Justaclerk]

Funny...as I read this I sit in my hotel room in Belgium, being entertained by the sounds of a Lt. Colonel drunk as a loon bellowing like a wounded water buffalo every two minutes or so, sitting alone in his room next door with the lights turned out. Some motherfuckers should just stay away from booze.

If he doesn't knock it off soon I just might start hollering unintelligibly myself and see if it drives him over the edge. Or maybe I should just start sliding razor blades under the doorjam.

....

[RetPara]

Drunk military member showing his ass, isn't that a job requirement:smile:
I remember...hearing about... this young BM3 who told the bead of the Bahamanian consulate to get out of the way, he worked for a living as he came up the brow. Yup, did some restriction time for that stunt. I wish he could remember it!:redface:

Hiroshima spring of '75. Saw a really stupid Marine in the bar district walk up to older Japanese men. Would go BOOM!!! then make the shape of a mushroom cloud with his hands. The 3rd or 4th time he did this, was to a much older man. Marine was kicked at least once in the face if not more before he went down. That was about the time the JN police showed up. We departed stage left.

[Bravo Five Romeo]

Hiroshima spring of '75. Saw a really stupid Marine in the bar district walk up to older Japanese men. Would go BOOM!!! then make the shape of a mushroom cloud with his hands. The 3rd or 4th time he did this, was to a much older man. Marine was kicked at least once in the face if not more before he went down. That was about the time the JN police showed up. We departed stage left.
There's always one that makes us all look bad.
About a dozen of us were at the top of Mount Sinai and some fuckstain redneck stereotype from another company overhears the family of Jewish tourists next to him (mother, father, and children) speaking German.
Dumbass: You folks from Germany?
German tourist: Yes, we are.
Dumbass: (thinking he's funny) I know German (raises his arm and while laughing, yells) Heil Hitler!
The children and mother started crying as the father ushered them away.
Who knows how long and how much it cost this Jewish German family to make this pilgrimage to Mount Sinai.
Dumbass redneck stereotype was laughing, not understanding why the rest of us were so upset and embarassed by him cause he was only joking.

[Believeraz]

There's always one that makes us all look bad.
About a dozen of us were at the top of Mount Sinai and some fuckstain redneck stereotype from another company overhears the family of Jewish tourists next to him (mother, father, and children) speaking German.
Dumbass: You folks from Germany?
German tourist: Yes, we are.
Dumbass: (thinking he's funny) I know German (raises his arm and while laughing, yells) Heil Hitler!
The children and mother started crying as the father ushered them away.
Who knows how long and how much it cost this Jewish German family to make this pilgrimage to Mount Sinai.
Dumbass redneck stereotype was laughing, not understanding why the rest of us were so upset and embarassed by him cause he was only joking.

I know some Israelis who'd probably really enjoy showing him the error of his ways.

[SOTB]

I know some Israelis who'd probably really enjoy showing him the error of his ways.I know some non-Israelis who'd probably enjoy showing him the error of his ways....

[MikeC2W]

I know some non-Israelis who'd probably enjoy showing him the error of his ways....

Indeed there is always one. I have found this to be true almost everywhere I go, and it's not always the ugly American. There are ugly 'insert nationality' assholes everywhere.

[SOTB]

There are ugly 'insert nationality' assholes everywhere.Mike, while I agree with you, I meant that aside from Israelis that would have relished being there when that asshole spouted off the "Heil Hitler" shit, there are a couple of people I personally know that would have enjoyed walking up to this stud and commenting to him his lack of IQ and SA. It doesn't matter if he stood 9', weighed 400lb, and was wearing a MMA shirt -- I know guys that would have been quite content to making his comment cost at least "something."

And since I am of the opinion that winning is all that matters, I am comfortable with the idea that it may have been several guys at the same time reinforcing good manners upon this clown and friends (should they have felt a need to participate in the day's lesson as well)....

[HighDragLowSpeed]

It doesn't matter if he stood 9', weighed 400lb, and was wearing a MMA shirt -- I know guys that would have been quite content to making his comment cost at least "something."

"either way, one of us is going to get his ass kicked" :biggrin:

[MikeC2W]

Mike, while I agree with you, I meant that aside from Israelis that would have relished being there when that asshole spouted off the "Heil Hitler" shit, there are a couple of people I personally know that would have enjoyed walking up to this stud and commenting to him his lack of IQ and SA. It doesn't matter if he stood 9', weighed 400lb, and was wearing a MMA shirt -- I know guys that would have been quite content to making his comment cost at least "something."

And since I am of the opinion that winning is all that matters, I am comfortable with the idea that it may have been several guys at the same time reinforcing good manners upon this clown and friends (should they have felt a need to participate in the day's lesson as well)....

I had no doubt what you meant, I just happen to hit the quote button my post has really nothing to do with yours... my bad! :smile:

[MakoZeroSix]

Please don't tell me it's the Crowne Plaza near the airport..

Nope. Although I wish it had been, since that would not have been near me.

He passed out for a couple of hours, but sadly, regained consciousness, whereupon he began to march up and down the stairs, ranting obscenities and racial epithets. This continued until about midnight, when I finally got to go to sleep.

I made the mistake of peeking out the window- I'll be forever scarred by this image -here was a middle age man standing in the rain in the parking lot, methodically unwrapping an entire roll of paper towels while gyrating his hips and shreiking over and over in a falsetto voice:
"Time to paaaartyyy! Time to paaaaaarrrrdeeeeehhh!"

[Massgrunt]

Nope. Although I wish it had been, since that would not have been near me.

He passed out for a couple of hours, but sadly, regained consciousness, whereupon he began to march up and down the stairs, ranting obscenities and racial epithets. This continued until about midnight, when I finally got to go to sleep.

I made the mistake of peeking out the window- I'll be forever scarred by this image -here was a middle age man standing in the rain in the parking lot, methodically unwrapping an entire roll of paper towels while gyrating his hips and shreiking over and over in a falsetto voice:
"Time to paaaartyyy! Time to paaaaaarrrrdeeeeehhh!"
You know that's pretty much the exact reason video cameras were invented, right? Btw, I bet if he was that drunk he wouldn't remember why he woke up bloody.

[rgrjoe175]

So does that mean I can't get shitfaced and rave to Europeans I meet that "OMFG! I can't beleive we don't use the metric system like you guys.
:tongue:

I love the metric system. When using it, for some reason I feel like I can go faster, run farther and my dick is bigger. :smile:

[Abu Khalil]

I love the metric system. When using it, for some reason I feel like I can go faster, run farther and my dick is bigger. :smile:

...just liked the Metric system because it made more sense. Now I have even more (or less?) to like!

[MikeC2W]

Nope. Although I wish it had been, since that would not have been near me.

He passed out for a couple of hours, but sadly, regained consciousness, whereupon he began to march up and down the stairs, ranting obscenities and racial epithets. This continued until about midnight, when I finally got to go to sleep.

I made the mistake of peeking out the window- I'll be forever scarred by this image -here was a middle age man standing in the rain in the parking lot, methodically unwrapping an entire roll of paper towels while gyrating his hips and shreiking over and over in a falsetto voice:
"Time to paaaartyyy! Time to paaaaaarrrrdeeeeehhh!"


That's fucking funny.....ah...no.....I've never been to Belgium! I will however be in Madrid on Sunday......anyone? anyone?


I love the metric system. When using it, for some reason I feel like I can go faster, run farther and my dick is bigger.


MAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH lol

[Justaclerk]

Nope. Although I wish it had been, since that would not have been near me.

He passed out for a couple of hours, but sadly, regained consciousness, whereupon he began to march up and down the stairs, ranting obscenities and racial epithets. This continued until about midnight, when I finally got to go to sleep.

I made the mistake of peeking out the window- I'll be forever scarred by this image -here was a middle age man standing in the rain in the parking lot, methodically unwrapping an entire roll of paper towels while gyrating his hips and shreiking over and over in a falsetto voice:
"Time to paaaartyyy! Time to paaaaaarrrrdeeeeehhh!"

...that party just took a turn to the douche. Cross-thread points.

[Spinner]

My dad travelled abroad a lot throughout the 70s and 80s, a lot of European and Middle East locales, but he developed a special fondness of Sweden and the folks he worked with there. He always looked forward to his Sweden trips.

Knowing my dad, he proabably knocked back a few on these trips, but he had a pretty good nature and he knew he was there for business. One of the coolest things I heard when he passed away was about all the Telex messages that flowed through his company, offering condolences and rememberances.

Most importantly, and this came straight from him on a few occasions, was he was never happier than when he made it back to the states after a trip. He appreciated the countries he visited and the people he met, but as far as he was concerned, nothing held a candle to the US.

When you travel abroad, you should always remember where you come from.

[poison]

This thread is funny.

I have a friend, australian guy married to an indonesian woman, he converted to marry her, but they're not at all practicing muslims. The guy is liberal, zeitgeist watching kind of guy, so I avoid politics for the most part. They didn't know I am israeli and served over there for a long time, and it visualy took them aback when it finally came up. They got over it, lol.

Anyway, they recently went on a trip. He made a point to sew aussie patches on his bag so as to not seem american.

Seriously? Don't you think you could do more good by being a 'not ugly american', and surprising some hater with how cool you really are, or giving them something to see besides the stereotype american?

I don't get that mentality. I mean if you're strolling through Syria, I might get it, but italy? Weak.

[Spinner]

Anyway, they recently went on a trip. He made a point to sew aussie patches on his bag so as to not seem american.

I just speak Australian for the same effect. :biggrin:

[xfrogTX]

BKK- This is the NEW America. Unless you are a white male Christian it is your DUTY to be offended. Sensitivity has nothing to do with it. It's the new paradigm!

[Massgrunt]

I just speak Australian for the same effect. :biggrin:

I tell people I'm Canadian while acting like a complete douchebag.

[Carl Spackler]

BKK- This is the NEW America. Unless you are a white male Christian it is your DUTY to be offended. Sensitivity has nothing to do with it. It's the new paradigm!

Thats some funny shit right there.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Femininastion of the masculine male=GAY

[xfrogTX]

Thats some funny shit right there.:biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:

Femininastion of the masculine male=GAY
No applause folks, just throw money!:biggrin:

[poison]

I just speak Australian for the same effect. :biggrin:

Lol! I wish I could pull off a russian accent, it would give me liscense to be a total loon when drunk and punch anyone who mentions my mom. :biggrin: