Civil War

[Disturbance]

I may be out of line here but I dont think I am. Lets say some day down the line Quebec decides to become a sovergn country or whatever and the rest of Canada doesnt like that very much so finally after years of talks arms are taken up and we are plunged into a civil war. Hypothetically speaking. Where would LFQA ( land force quebec area) stand? Where would their loyalties lie? Or would they be with the rest of Canada and CF just takes on rebel civilians?
Its just in my polisci course the other day we talked about the War Measures Act and I was curious to see if Quebec soldiers were used or if they let other English soldiers do all the military stuff. Cause I am sure some may have had a hard time arresting ppl when they were simpathetic to the cause. I dont know I was just using my imagination a lil.

-Disturbance

[Cree Warrior]

I think that issues been resolved already. Most people know as a matter of fact that the majority of French coldiers would fight for Quebec, as would their senior leadership.
As for what if they did? The Cree of Quebec have already stated that they'd stay with Canada. If Quebec can seperate, so can they from Quebec, they would take 2/3rds of the province with them as well.
The Mohawks, well we all know what they'd do.
They alone out arm the Vandoos.
Thats why it will never happen, Quebec has way too much to lose.

Sua Sponte

[Enfield]

I don't where LFQA would stand - I would think that since they're in the _Canadian_ Forces, they have prefer Canada to an independent Quebec. I wouldn't say they'd ALL go either way though - there would be some division.
Keep in mind that almost 1/3 of our military and it's resources are in Quebec...
And Canada is not Yugoslavia - we do not have huge caches of military arms and a population trained to use them.
If Quebec forcibly seperated, and Canda decided to use military force to bring them backor keep them, I see this happening:
Canada blockades Quebec, and the RCR moves in to the anglo townships in Montreal. More troops occupy the power stations up north.
And then we wait as the province starves itself. And there would be internal disseny within Quebec - the Natives and Inuit for one, plus the anglophones and pre-Canada francophones.
Oh, and there is no way that the US will alow a conflict that close to it's borders. Whether through direct intervention, logistic and air support, or whatever, they will make sure the civil war ends quickly.

Enfield

[TonyM]

Didn't BQ lose half their seats to the Liberals last election? And Bouchard has stepped down (on his good leg,ok low blow but what the hell), other BQ leaders have been chastised in the press for being "racist", so it's plain to see: they've lost any popular support they had. No public backing, no seperation. Every uprising in history has needed two critical elements
1-A strong charismatic leader(s).
2-The will of the majority.
Gee, and I didn't even go to university.

[Enfield]

"And let's face it, good as our guys are, 2REP's ranks are full of guys who would grind some of our guys into the ground."

What makes you say that? Don't believe everything the Legion says about itself. They're good yes, but the aren't supermen.
Anyways, France is culturally incapable of winning a war, and if they deployed any troops overhere they would be damn hard to supply, and thus would be overwhelmed within a few days. And France cut-off Quebec from any real support in the 1700's.
The US would definitely intervene - how can they not? Armed conflict along their border? They would never let that last, riks of spill-over, refugees, criminals, etc., is too high.

Enfield

[garett]

Other then this being a stupid topic....2 REP is a parachute regiment. So unless they can beat the whole CF in 3-4 days they're fucked.
France would stay out anyway, it was all over for them after the Plains of Abraham in New France. I don't think they'd dare not support Canada after helping bail they're asses out in WWI, WW II. Anyways everyone hates France so it would be France and Quebec VS NATO. This is a stupid topic. Canada's only potential enemy is the USA. Manifest Destiny is still alive south of the border.

[Cree Warrior]

Man this degenerated into total nonsense. The original question was very valid and should be explored at length.
I guess we are on "socnet", where the answer to all questions is..."send in ______ super elite, para, counterterrorist, amphibious, UW, special operations counterinsurgency unit and they'll sort out everything in 16 and a half seconds!"

Sua Sponte

Famous SEAL quote which is appropriate here;
"Its not that we're all that good, its just that everybody else really sucks."

[Disturbance]

LOL
Nice Cree

hehehe yeah.

-Disturbance

[enderr]

You're pretty harsh...all the Vandoos I've met would stay and fight for us eengleesh...It's those alliance[nazi] freaks that ya gotta keep a close eye on

[Cree Warrior]

No doubt, anyone thats for capital punishment and against abortion...? Gotta wonder how you can justify that morally.

Sua Sponte

[Cole]

Simple: Innocent vs. Guilty.

[TonyM]

I see that "Westernism" is a growing culture out here. The last federal election demonstrated that clearly. Would the R22e fight for Quebec if they seperated? Some would, some wouldn't. Would the PPCLI do the same if the western provinces split? Same thing. Would the US, Britain or France step in? Yup, it would be to good an opportunity to pass up. Think of all those resoures to be had! No polictical action is undertaken for morality.