Jax Desmond AKA Jared Shapira - Poser

[PrairieFive-oh]

Jax Desmond has posted a job opportunity for 115 police officers to work in a Spanish language environment for 120 days starting 2010/01/04. Has anyone got any ideas about this? Anyone worked for Jax Desmond before?

Thanks in advance.

[PrairieFive-oh]

It's Mexico, counterdrug ops.

Source; http://semanal.milenio.com/node/1556

[BKK]

I was going to start the same thread, but someone beat me to it. I got an email on this from a friend, and wondered who is Jax Desmond? Never heard of them. Anyone have any first hand knowledge on these guys?

[BKK]

This long with out a reply from this board MUST mean they are nobodies!

[Marina]

I remember they were trying to get some PR when there was a frenzy about who killed Anna Nichole Smith. Seriously. I read it in the check out lane.

Now they made an open challenge to the Zetas. A publicity stunt maybe trying to get some Mexican officials to hire them for protection.

[ateixeira]

They have a nice website:

http://www.jaxdesmond.com/home/operational.html

Since when did 37 years of age make one obsolete?

"Eligibility
To qualify for employment with Jax Desmond Worldwide you must be at least 23 years of age, but younger than 37 upon your appointment."

I have been trying to do some research here and elsewhere on companies working the "Latin American" AO and have not had much luck. Trying to put my Spanish to work on keeping some of them folk south of the border:biggrin:

[5831lvn]

They have a nice website:

http://www.jaxdesmond.com/home/operational.html

Since when did 37 years of age make one obsolete?

"Eligibility
To qualify for employment with Jax Desmond Worldwide you must be at least 23 years of age, but younger than 37 upon your appointment."



Sounds like Fed. LEO, but that's because of manditory retirement at 57

[ateixeira]

Sounds like Fed. LEO, but that's because of manditory retirement at 57

Roger that...I was just surprised to see the "private" sector going the same way.

[SOTB]

Jax Desmond has posted a job opportunity for 115 police officers to work in a Spanish language environment for 120 days starting 2010/01/04....I'm interested in where this is posted. I did not see it on their website....

[SOTB]

OK, I think I've found it (http://www.jobbank.gc.ca/dispjb_eng.aspx?OrderNum=4758698&Source=JobPosting).

I'm interested if it is Mexico. The position reads as if it is a mentoring position. Which would be interesting -- considering in his interview in the above link, he clearly stated his personnel would detain ANY member of the Mexican police or military that approached them (in the operation he was referring to).

Methinks that it is another marketing ploy -- he throws out that he is looking to hire 115 cops for a contract to clean up Mexico -- when the contract doesn't happen, he claims the Mexicans backed out. But he can still claim that they approached him, because he is so badass.

Right.

I'll ask around here to see if anyone knows of this "contract"....

[PrairieFive-oh]

SOTB, the source is correct, and I apologize for not posting the link myself with my posting. It sure sounds fishy to me, but I thought I'd run it past the professionals here to see.

The JD website states something about an upper age limit of 37 years for applicants. I'm 40 and can smoke many men half my age at most things you care to mention, and a close friend is 39, calling in arty as a FOO in the Ghan, running circles around young bombardiers. That ageism ticks me off and furthermore it's illegal to specify an upper age limit in Canada. And I find it funny that they accept postsecondary qualifications from US or UK educational institutions, but not Canadian ones, although they post extensively in Canadian job boards for Canadian applicants for their Canadian "projects" (although there seems little of substance to these "projects" and much, much conjecture.)

Wouldn't work for them now anyways.

[kschwartz]

His eligibilty requirements are word for word from criminal investigator positions for the ATF. I would call BS on this one if it were me.

[tangodown]

FYI, Jax Desmond Worldwide sound like BS. There are somethings on they're website that certainly do not make any sense.

http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Jax_Desmond_(deleted_17_Apr_2008_a t_15:44)
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[O_Pos]

...I'm interested if it is Mexico...

Here is the exact email that went out:


Name of Job Being Posted: Operatives (Protective Security Specialist, Designated Defensive Marksman, Rotary Wing Pilots, Paramedics, Fixed Site Security, Operation Managers, Shift Supervisors, Canine Handlers, CIVPOL Officers)
Company name: Jax Desmond Worldwide
Short company description: Jax Desmond Worldwide is one of the world's leading risk management firms, helping clients to achieve their goals by combining the highest global standards with world class expertise.
Deadline (date) for this job post: January 4, 2010
Actual work location for this job: Mexico
Salary Range: To be negotiated
Job Description: Varies depending on position.
General duties consist of drug enforcement, general police patrol, high risk warrants and apprehensions, surveillance and investigations, special operations.
Background and Experience Requirements: To qualify for employment with Jax Desmond Worldwide you must be at least 23 years of age, but younger than 37 upon your appointment. You must have at least three years of professional work experience in federal law enforcement or military special operations within the United States or Israel.

[Silverbullet]

Couple of points.

When "operatives" is used then followed by- Protective Security Specialist, Designated Defensive Marksman, Rotary Wing Pilots, Paramedics, Fixed Site Security, Operation Managers, Shift Supervisors, Canine Handlers, CIVPOL Officers- in parenthesizes vice just listing those titles, you usually find the company falls under amateur or poser.

When they tell you they are "one of the worlds leading........." and you never heard of them then they are fairly new, blowing smoke or a combination of both.

When general duties are so vague they let the reader insert pretty much whatever comes to mind, beware.

These dudes may be legit, but based on the info available I wouldn't bet on it.

Someone from the company is more than welcome to come by and show me that I'm wrong.

[Silverbullet]

A rep from the company has joined the site.

Let's see what he has to say.

[Silverbullet]

More-

The company public affairs officer has sent an email threatening us about this thread. I'll post it for all to read once it's forwarded.

It seems to be the usual stuff regarding the legal dept talking about slander and defamation, etc...

I can only assume they think we don't know the law and feel it's ok to threaten military and LE veterans who are voicing an opinion.

They obviously don't know that we've been down this road many times.

The threatening letter, over opinion, is 9 times out of 10 the ultimate red flag regarding a company.

As noted earlier they may be entirely what they say they are, but their email solicitation and now this don't make it appear so.

[Believeraz]

Shenanigans.

[JDWRep]

Greetings.


I received an email from an employee of ours who told me about some of the comments that were posted on here and I wanted to come on and answer some of your questions and respond.

I should mention that I don't have an LE or Military background. I work in the human resources department for the company.

I'm happy to answer any questions and respond to any concerns regarding JDW. The first point that I would like to make is that I've worked for the company for almost a year now and have nothing but good things to say. I've been treated fairly, never had a problem getting paid and have met some incredible people and seem some incredible things.

While I don't have experience working for a PMC previously, I have through my department been able to gauge the response from others that work for us who have.

Some of our people are formerly with company such as Blackwater, Triple Canopy, Aegis, Claytons, etc..

While some of them have been a little "unnerved" when coming on with us, they seem to really enjoy working for the company now. We have very little turnover and our staff seems to be very happy working here.

Another point I would like to make is this Mexico project, nicknamed "Operation Duvdevan" by Mr. Desmond.

This is the first of its kind for the company from what I know. It's the largest contract that we've ever gone after so it's somewhat new water for us. We have employed some of the best people available for it and overall the attitude is that we can complete the job successfully.

If you have any questions don't hesitate to ask. I'll try and answer them if I can.

-RC


P.S.- I'm here on my own so it should be said that anything I write is my own personal opinion and not the companys.

[SOTB]

Another point I would like to make is this Mexico project, nicknamed "Operation Duvdevan" by Mr. Desmond.

This is the first of its kind for the company from what I know. It's the largest contract that we've ever gone after so it's somewhat new water for us. We have employed some of the best people available for it and overall the attitude is that we can complete the job successfully....Is this a contract you CURRENTLY have, or are seeking to obtain?

[JDWRep]

I don't believe we have the contract as of yet. From what I've been told we're just recruiting for it right now. Gathering resumes so when we have to hire the necessary people we have a group of candidates to choose from.

As far as I know we're still in negotiations.

[SOTB]

I don't believe we have the contract as of yet. From what I've been told we're just recruiting for it right now. Gathering resumes so when we have to hire the necessary people we have a group of candidates to choose from.

As far as I know we're still in negotiations.Thanks....

[Silverbullet]

JDWRep,
I have some questions for you.

How old is this company? I did a D&B check and it appears to be fairly new and also shows a few other interesting links. Website registration and ownership appear to support this as well.

Why on a site populated by 1000's of former SOF and LEO's does no one know anything about the company if they are "one of the leading".....?

Is the company using submitted resumes to put against the bid or does the company already have it's bid submitted? or are you/the company suggesting this is a sole source solicitation and you aren't bidding only negotiating for the project?

Thanks

[JDWRep]

Silverbullet,

1. The company was formed in 2006 originally to provide executive protection for celebrities and corporate executives. In 2007 it became a government contractor.

2. Well I think it's important to stress that yes, this site does have 1000s of former SOF and LEO, but not everyone who's a member has responded. I would venture to guess that a good many have heard of our firm based on the number of resumes we receive from former SOF and LEO on a daily basis. One thing to remember is that Jax Desmond Worldwide doesn't provide these types of services as discussed on here on a daily basis. The majority of the work we do day-to-day is assessments and analysis for corporations. Something that doesn't get a lot of publicity on a site like this.

This particular operation is requiring a lot more out of us and pushing us to our limits. We have the people and resources in place to successfully complete it but it's not something we're well known for. We are one of the world's leading risk management firms... not PMCs. We're not the size of Blackwater, Aegis or Triple Canopy and the work we do is quite different.

However, for the type of services we provide we are in the lead. At least I think so.

3. This is a sole source solicitation from what I know. There was no invitation to bid, we simply saw a need for outsourcing and made an offer. After the offer was made we were asked to submit a proposal. That proposal has been submitted, was reviewed and is now being discussed. We have high expectations based on intel we've received that we will be successful in obtaining this contract.

We're working closely with a variety of SOF individuals from Israel and have a solid group of US personnel as well. The 115 that we seek is to complement that team.

I hope that answers your questions, let me know if you have more.

[Believeraz]

We are one of the world's leading risk management firms...

I still think it's bold to put yourself on par and equivalence with Pinkerton C and I, Kroll, Control Risks, ArmorGroup, WSI, and similar firms. I strongly doubt revenue, resources, and support rival those firms. There's nothing wrong with being a start-up or proud of what you have, but repeated statements to that degree make me suspicious.

[JDWRep]

I can agree with that. I didn't write the website and I'm not a manager or partner with the firm but I think you have a point.

I will say that I think we offer something they don't and I think that the work we put into our assignments makes us a leader in the industry. I know that our success rate with our clients is fantastic and I think that we probably provide a better service then most if not all of our competitors. (my opinion)

But as I said, I see your point, but I don't think that calling ourselves leaders in the industry is fraudulent or even unethical.

Let me ask you a question... when was the last time you looked at a website for a company big or small and they said "we're average at what we do" or "we're not as good as ABC co but we try our best".

It's marketing plain and simple, we all know this, but I think in this industry sometimes people think that PMCs shouldn't be marketing themselves. In the end its a business and we have to make money. Marketing then becomes an essential practice.

Regardless of how big or small we are in the industry, we have a good rap. We've never been accused of killing innocent civilians, we've never been in front of a tribunal for war crimes, we've never had someone accuse our people of rape and we've never had a country kick us out for repeated offenses.

Just because some people haven't heard of us before doesn't make us new, it doesnt make the company inadequate. I'd go on record and put my job on it to say that we have better people than any other company out there. I think our people are what seperates us from the rest. And we do have a number of resources I don't think many other companies have.

Once again just my opinion but I do appreciate your point.

[KS11]

Another point I would like to make is this Mexico project, nicknamed "Operation Duvdevan" by Mr. Desmond.

This is the first of its kind for the company from what I know. It's the largest contract that we've ever gone after so it's somewhat new water for us. We have employed some of the best people available for it and overall the attitude is that we can complete the job successfully.


Because it's a "cherry" operation (ie: brand new), because the job entails doing undercover operations, or because it sounds like a really neat-o Israeli Special Operations name?

I'm just asking why he would name it that. For me, it goes to mindset of the company president.

[JDWRep]

I had to ask a friend about this. From what he tells me we were asked by a reporter for a name of an operation. The name Operation Duvdevan does stem from the Israeli unit. It was chosen because the director of this operation is a former member of Duvdevan and because the majority of our management for this operation is from Duvdevan or Sayeret Matkal. It was also chosen because of the way that Israeli SOF operates.

[rotorohead]

When "operatives" is used then followed by- Protective Security Specialist, Designated Defensive Marksman, Rotary Wing Pilots, Paramedics, Fixed Site Security, Operation Managers, Shift Supervisors, Canine Handlers, CIVPOL Officers-

just wondering what this company's expertise with aviation support or operations is?
being in aviation we see alot of companies that pass themselves as "operators" - can't find you in the FAA database or the customer looking for you to fly their aircraft?
may want to re-think it and subcontract an operator.

[Silverbullet]

Silverbullet,

1. The company was formed in 2006 originally to provide executive protection for celebrities and corporate executives. In 2007 it became a government contractor.

2. Well I think it's important to stress that yes, this site does have 1000s of former SOF and LEO, but not everyone who's a member has responded. I would venture to guess that a good many have heard of our firm based on the number of resumes we receive from former SOF and LEO on a daily basis. One thing to remember is that Jax Desmond Worldwide doesn't provide these types of services as discussed on here on a daily basis. The majority of the work we do day-to-day is assessments and analysis for corporations. Something that doesn't get a lot of publicity on a site like this.

This particular operation is requiring a lot more out of us and pushing us to our limits. We have the people and resources in place to successfully complete it but it's not something we're well known for. We are one of the world's leading risk management firms... not PMCs. We're not the size of Blackwater, Aegis or Triple Canopy and the work we do is quite different.





I appreciate your response but:

Becoming a gov't contractor is another vague term. What gov't contract? There appears to be zero "gov't contracts" awarded to your company.

Secondly, you and your company need to understand this point-while every member of this site hasn't responded I can assure you with 100% certainty that we get information from every corner of the world. Not every member is going to respond publically, but if there is even one member who has heard of or worked for your company we would know by now.

The depth of our ability to get any and all info on any subj and any company can not be matched.

If your company is what the website and their email solicitation states they are we would know and your corporate HQ's wouldn't be sending out the stupid threatening email.

IMO, I see a company who is barely 3 years old claiming to work in austere places, needs "operatives" and basically fishing for resumes.

I agree with you 100% that this Mexico thing is beyond anything JDW has ever tried. If fact, IMO the company has no work history that shows they are capable of conducting this type of project even if it does ever turn into something real.

I wish them luck and suggest they may want to change their attitude and realize that points made in this thread, if applied, would probably help them in the long run.

[Chief Lobo]

JDWRep,

I am not a regular poster but visit this forum often because the information here is invaluable for some of us trying to make a living post active duty. Two issues compel me to comment. Let me get to the point.

Issue 1, companies using my hard earned experience with proposals to obtain contracts for profit and not offering me the job to share in that profit, or sustituting me with a TCN just to pay him less. When I give you my resume it is only to assess, vet, and to select or not select me. Why should I assist a company for gain when I receive nothing in return? I'm a victim of this. I don't like it and it is hard to prove. Resume databases are obviously very important and prospective candidates and the company are in it together when a resume accompanies a proposal. I'm not accusing your company of doing this but it has happened.

Issue 2, any experienced "operator", as the term gets used, will tell you that at age 37 and well beyond you are in your prime. I am not bashing the CEOs policy. When you own or are in charge of a company your the king, but the policy will eliminate individuals with the desired skills and experience and build resentment from otherwise qualified people.

I too am always interested in work in Latin American countries. I have extensive time and experience there and prefer it to the Middle East. For now I'll keep my resume because I'm too old and I wish you and your company the best of luck.

Si en un futuro, usted tiene un trabajo en Colombia, Mexico, o cualquier lugar al Sur para nosotros los mayores yo le enviare mi hoja de vida!

[Delcineo]

If you read the spanish newspaper article, it's an interview of someone from the company. Basically a sales pitch. In the interview he claims to have access to "Apache helicopters", and even "artillery",.....Hmmmmm, he also claims to be able to "call upon the U.S. military in a jam". My goodness, I'm buying property in Mexico since it's obvious that the narco-problems will be coming to an end down there soon.....

[Silverbullet]

FYI

http://209.85.129.132/search?q=cache:pn2HuOdlSjAJ:deletionpedia.dbatley. com/w/index.php%3Ftitle%3DJax_Desmond_%28deleted_17_Apr_ 2008_at_15:44%29+Jax+Desmond&cd=48&hl=en&ct=clnk&client=safari

I guess someone forgot that the internet lives forever when they deleted the wiki page.

Check this picture out.

10051

Now compare it to the picture of the 2 chicks sitting at the table with him that accompany the interview below. Nice staff.

http://the-red-couch.blogspot.com/2009/08/q-w-jax-desmond.html

That's a professional group.....Notice the use of the vague term "gov't contractor" again. LOL

[PrairieFive-oh]

Thanks, Silverbullet. I needed a good laugh and this certainly provided it.

I love the `anonymous' comments about how gorgeous he is, what a good man he is, how you wouldn't want to mess with him, blah blah blah. Bet it's one ISP address and it goes to the basement of Jax Desmond's mom and dad's bungalow.

Good times. Thanks again.

[KS11]

From the Link SB Provided In 2006 I graduated with a diploma in Israeli Counter Terrorism and since then have completed multiple certifications in the fields of close protection and tactical medicine.

Who wouldn't want to work for this guy?

[5831lvn]

lol, the long arm of SOCNET....this place never ceases to amaze me

[Chief Lobo]

I'm impressed! Knowing what we trained the Mexicans at Bragg and knowing that some have migrated to the Zetas, that is exactly what anyone would want backing this type of project up from Canada. Good God Almighty! Lets just go to their back yard and put them out of business. It's that easy with no host nation and USG support while local corrupt actors hinder you in every way possible. Sign me up, I love a challenge!

[Marina]

no host nation or USG support while local corrupt actors hinder you in every way possible

That's "the way that Israeli SOF operates."

Is that your shoe phone ringing Jax? Must be Vanity Fair.

[Silverbullet]

I can't take credit for it except the pic with the 2 chicks.

The rest came in from an overseas member.

A bunch of stuff has come into my inbox but I haven't had the time to sort through all of it.

[Silverbullet]

Here's the threat. The "govern yourself....." part is classic.
__________________________________________________ __________________________________________________ _____________________________

Jax Desmond Worldwide takes very seriously the allegations made public on this website today. We have worked very hard to develop a positive reputation within the risk management industry and find these allegations to be insulting and unwarranted.

We are committed to providing our clients with exceptional levels of service, at reasonable prices and provided by the most experienced and qualified professionals. This is our highest priority.

Jax Desmond Worldwide is committed to serving its clients to the highest professional and ethical standards as demonstrated since its incorporation in 2006.

Jax Desmond Worldwide is a global risk management firm with annual revenues exceeding $100 million. It has been named as one of the world's leading risk management and protective services firms by numerous media outlets, and is a vendor to four governments and an excess of fifty private clients. More than 500 employees provide analysis, advice, and turn-key solutions to clients that have included some of the world's most recognizable individuals and organizations. Our office is located in the Trump Building on Wall Street in New York City and our corporate profile can be viewed on our website at www.jaxdesmond.com.

We hereby respectfully request that this thread be closed for discussion and deleted from your servers, and that any questions or concerns regarding our legitimacy within the risk management and security industries be directed to our public relations department by email at pr@jaxdesmond.com.

The comments made on this website are nothing more than personal opinions with no evidence to support them. Our legal department has determined these comments to be slanderous and defamatory and will take the necessary steps to ensure the protection of our reputation on the world wide web and within the military and intelligence communities.

Govern yourself accordingly.

Per,

Sascha Forst
Director, Public Relations

Jax Desmond Worldwide Ltd.
40 Wall Street, 28th Floor
New York, NY 10005

Ph. 1 (815) 346-3537
Fx. 1 (815) 550-8908
s.forst@jaxdesmond.com

[Hot Mess]

Our legal department has determined these comments to be slanderous and defamatory and will take the necessary steps to ensure the protection of our reputation on the world wide web and within the military and intelligence communities.



:rolleyes:

[JDWRep]

I've read all of the comments and would like to reply, however I was fired from the company earlier today and am concerned that if I continue to comment I may be sued.

Silverbullet, if you can send me a private email, I'd like to speak with you.

[MixedLoad]

You come to defend them and they fire you. How's that for the daily dose of irony?

[Old_Starlight]

Our legal department has determined these comments to be slanderous and defamatory and will take the necessary steps to ensure the protection of our reputation on the world wide web and within the military and intelligence communities.

.......here I was thinking it was up to a court of law to make these determinations. Now I see that a legal dept. can make the call? I'm now scared :rolleyes:

FYI, no one of consequence in Oz has heard of this so called "one of the world's leading risk management and protective services firms" until the name popped up on SOCNET.

However, lots of people ( some of little to no consequence ) have heard of SOCNET downunder :biggrin:

[SOTB]

Govern yourself accordingly.Sigh. OK. Shot out. Splash in approx 48 hrs....

[Hot Mess]

You come to defend them and they fire you. How's that for the daily dose of irony?

LOL, I'd call that "rich":smile: As in, "Oh, that is very rich".

[JDWRep]

The piss port excuse they gave me was that I wasn't doing my job well enough but I know its because I was on here. A friend told me a memo got sent out today telling people not to come on this website and not to comment on anything and it was apparently blocked from all the servers.

[Silverbullet]

I've read all of the comments and would like to reply, however I was fired from the company earlier today and am concerned that if I continue to comment I may be sued.

Silverbullet, if you can send me a private email, I'd like to speak with you.

I feel for you and if true then you were screwed. As noted, you came and represented them in a professional manner. I'm sure you'll understand if I tell you to PM me vice giving you my email address. You may be posting under duress.

Anything you want to tell me will come across just fine via PM.

Thanks

[Virgil Tibbs]

Here's the threat. The "govern yourself....." part is classic.
__________________________________________________ _______________
Jax Desmond Worldwide Ltd.
40 Wall Street, 28th Floor
New York, NY 10005

Ph. 1 (815) 346-3537
Fx. 1 (815) 550-8908
s.forst@jaxdesmond.com

I lived in New York City for 6 years, and unless things have changed (815) is not a New York area code. When I left it was (212). As per Google it is an Illinois area code. Unless Google is being slanderous.

[tangodown]

I lived in New York City for 6 years, and unless things have changed (815) is not a New York area code. When I left it was (212). As per Google it is an Illinois area code. Unless Google is being slanderous.

VT,
You are absolutely correct, it is a Chicago number.. Jax Desmond office in New York at Trump Building 40 Wall Street is a Virtual Office from Davinci Virtual Office Solutions.

For a Risk Management Firm that claims to do well over a 100 million a year, you would think they could actually afford a REAL office in New York.
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[Silverbullet]

I lived in New York City for 6 years, and unless things have changed (815) is not a New York area code. When I left it was (212). As per Google it is an Illinois area code. Unless Google is being slanderous.

She sent the email from Toronto. In fact it came from the exact same IP that JDWRep registered from.

He's using a new one now. I can only assume this is due to him being fired.

[PrairieFive-oh]

(Not to disparage trains, mind you, or to get sued by the railway companies for slander or defamation.)

My roommate applied for a position with this `company' last week. I told him it sounded hinky...when he comes off nights this morning I will be showing him this thread.

It seems that NOTHING about this `company' or this person is legit.

[lo-rolla]

FYI (post #33)


I guess someone forgot that the internet lives forever when they deleted the wiki page.

Check this picture out. (post #33)

10051

Now compare it to the picture of the 2 chicks sitting at the table with him that accompany the interview below. Nice staff.

http://the-red-couch.blogspot.com/2009/08/q-w-jax-desmond.html

That's a professional group.....Notice the use of the vague term "gov't contractor" again. LOL


Looks like somebody playing with daddy's money................and suit!

I've heard it said, to "fake it till ya make it"

However, I'm thinking this MIGHT be the wrong arena for that concept :rolleyes:

[tangodown]

It looks to me that Jax Desmond Worldwide is trying to MIMIC Gavin de Becker!!
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[MakoZeroSix]

So, if I were to say that in my humble opinion, this company sounds like one of the world's gayest risk management firms, and in the future I am going to make sure that none of my many friends and contacts in the SOF community would ever work for them, they could take legal action against me?

If that's the case, I better not say it, I guess.

Oh yeah, and I never heard of them, neither has anybody else I know. I do think it's amusing that they fire a guy working for them who is trying to represent them professionally. Maybe he can go work somewhere better now.

[MixedLoad]

Oh yeah, and I never heard of them, neither has anybody else I know. I do think it's amusing that they fire a guy working for them who is trying to represent them professionally. Maybe he can go work somewhere better now.

At least he won't have to lose betting his paycheck on finding good guys elsewhere to work with...

[bobofthedesert]

The only thing I'm even mildly curious about at this point is whether "Sascha" is the mildly hot one on the right, the not hot post-op TV on the left, or the dorky looking dude in the center....

And I want to know which one has been been dating Tiger......

[GRIFFIN]

The only thing I'm even mildly curious about at this point is whether "Sascha" is the mildly hot one on the right, the not hot post-op TV on the left, or the dorky looking dude in the center....

And I want to know which one has been been dating Tiger......

Sascha is the dude next to the flip chart with that "operator" look:rolleyes:

[JDWRep]

The attractive one is Pauline or Paulina. That's Jax Desmond's personal assistant. The other one is Wenda Lee, she's the admin assistant or secretary or something. And the guy in the back is Tyler or Tyrone or something and they call him Jax's assistant but everyone knows its his personal bodyguard.

[JDWRep]

Sascha is a man. He works in the London office as the pr manager or spokesperson or something. He's also a lawyer I believe.

[tangodown]

Now it all make sense, it must be Sacha Baron Cohen using is cover name Sascha Forst so it does not conflict with his other day job in Sayeret Matkal
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[tangodown]

JDW,
What is with all the Virtual Offices and Mail Box drops for Jax Desmond Worldwide another address for them in New York 1461 First Avenue, Suite 360 New York, NY 10075 still with the same number going to Chicago. Strange for a World Leader in Threat Management.
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[JDWRep]

There's a bunch of them. They also have actual offices but those aren't advertised. In fact it's part of the employment contract that you can't disclose where the actual offices are. They claim its for opsec. I worked out of one in NYC. I also have visited others in Atlanta, Los Angeles, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Sydney and London. I don't know how many more there are. I know for every actual office they have there are at least one or two virtual offices or po boxes and I know that they pay a lot of money for them because they have certain requirements.

I don't know why that is though.

[bobofthedesert]

There's a bunch of them. I don't know why that is though.

It's so no one can track them down and out them the way SOCNET just did. So much for that plan....

Or just to create the illusion that the word "Worldwide" is justified.....it sounds so much better than "douchebaggery on five continents"

I'm sure all their other concepts are equally well thought out.....

1) OK, what should we call our company.....something that sounds like a comic book character name or a low rent porn star would be good.....

2) Let's throw the Israeli SOF card, no one has ever done that before, and I read a book about them last week, they have the best pistol technique in the world.....

And so forth.....

[JDWRep]

As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

[GRIFFIN]

As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

HMMMM interesting, I am calling BS on that one JDW. You came on a little strong there. Feel free to PM with some detail on the "enormous reach" because it sounds like you are actually doing some spin control on behalf of the company.

[HighDragLowSpeed]

As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

Funny. Their reach apparently isn't sufficient to keep their wikipedia page (http://deletionpedia.dbatley.com/w/index.php?title=Jax_Desmond_(deleted_17_Apr_2008_a t_15:44))from getting deleted last year for lack of noteworthiness...

Here are the seemingly desperate arguments to get the Wikipedia page reinstated: http://www.medbib.com/Wikipedia:Articles_for_deletion/Jax_Desmond_Worldwide

The only arguments offered by the staunch defenders of Jax Desmond to meet Wikipedia's noteworthy bar where that 1) it was a Canadian company in "a sea of American companies" and 2) a single mention in that Indian newspaper article. Wikipedia didnt seem to think that either was sufficiently noteworthy. One editor towards the end of the link even suggests that the page might be a hoax. Keep in mind that Wikipedia editors aren't even in the security industry. :rolleyes:

Have these guys been awarded a single gov contract? Search for the company with a "-zetas -hatten" modifier in google and you dont get much beyond employment solicitations...given that they've noted in this thread that they fish for resumes, the solicitations aren't worth beans.

On a side note, I do like the "Bodyguard, Military Contractor, Investigator, Consultant, philanthropist" angle for the deleted page....I need to get those added to my business cards along with "Tamer of Tigers, Virgins Deflowered, Revolutions Started, Rebellions Quelled, Bar Fights Ended"

[Silverbullet]

As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

Look man, I feel for you if they truly fired you, but you're reaching and the info that was provided to me is not true. I'm beginning to doubt the fired part as well.

You may believe it and Jax Desmond may have tried to encourage this belief and aura around the workplace but they aren't a black cut out for any gov't agency, they aren't tied into DOD or anything close.

Their behavior, email, web presence and especially the PR person who IMO is a complete dumb ass wouldn't have reacted to anything posted on the web.

Just look at the promotional video they put together. It's laughable.

Using and holding off shore accounts doesn't make you dangerous or part of a black unit.

To the inexperienced this may smack of them being real players but a few simple scratches of the surface revealed something entirely different.

As far as having something to fear, that's laughable.

[Silverbullet]

HMMMM interesting, I am calling BS on that one JDW. You came on a little strong there. Feel free to PM with some detail on the "enormous reach" because it sounds like you are actually doing some spin control on behalf of the company.

His PM will be the same dumb one he sent me. Your last sentence is why I didn't give him an email. We had a dude try to register yesterday with his exact same IP address but claiming to be in Montana.

These people aren't as smart as they think they are.

We presently have many researchers looking into them and their claims.

[Silverbullet]

2) Let's throw the Israeli SOF card, no one has ever done that before, and I read a book about them last week, they have the best pistol technique in the world.....



We are checking that out as well, both in Israel and with someone in the US they claim association with.

So far no positive info has returned.

[Delcineo]

I found his interview on 'The Red Couch' interesting, especially the quote "In 2006 I graduated with a diploma in Israeli Counter Terrorism",......Which 'school' did he attend, 'Menachem's Lox & Bagel Shop, and Night-School of Counter-Terrorism'.......It would be interesting to find out where and from whom he actually obtained his 'diploma'. My suspicion is the 'School of Photoshop' is where the diploma came from. Or perhaps it was a correspondence course offered on the back of a matchbook cover ?

[leeb1065]

I am sitting in my CHU reading this and I have to say thank You Jax Desmond because I am laughing my ass off. I have never gotten how a person puts so much work into a facade, when they could take that energy and actually make a living at it. Dude, You should write comedy, You're good at it.

[bobofthedesert]

This is'nt some fly by night organization.

Yes it is.

The company's reach is enormous.

No it's not.

Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

Yeah.:rolleyes:

They will send this guy after you.......

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[SOTB]

Splash....

[Spinner]

I lived in New York City for 6 years, and unless things have changed (815) is not a New York area code. When I left it was (212). As per Google it is an Illinois area code. Unless Google is being slanderous.

Yea, it's a local code for some of the outlying areas.

The letter from the PR rep was priceless. It sounded just like all of the disclaimers at the end of the Happy Fun Ball parody commercial on SNL.

As pissed as I am with what happened you couldnt be more off. There are things that JDW is hiding but its not even close to what the guys on here are thinking. This isnt some fly by night organization. The company's reach is enormous and they have everything they claim in place. Its what's behind the curtain that's the alarming part. Something I'm not going to get into for my own self preservation.

You make it sound like this guy and his organization have some sort of capability right out of a James Bond flick.

As for all of those offices you visited, how many times did you visit and for how long? In each of those cities listed, I could find several buildings that rent short term office space. Not too much of a stretch to set up an office for a few days to wow a client, or your own HR guy, and then shut it down when they leave.

Scammers been pulling shit like that for decades.

[Chief Lobo]

This seems like it has the trappings of another EO and Sandline novel, if true, corporate wet dream or not, history has a way of repeating itself. Here are a few thoughts IMHO for whoever is interested and left at the company.

1. Immediately stop any more press releases in the AO. Back home play everything off as an incredibly ambitious and juvenile idea based in fiction …………… from now on. Show the James Bond like photo with the two women.

2. Do not rename the company for an inert gas next to Xenon on the periodic table because OPSEC is shot due to #1 above.

3. Never state a force is better armed and better trained publicly. More asymmetrical TTPs and IEDs will surely appear before you know it.

4. Understand that no gringo or foreigner will go unnoticed anywhere at any time in the AO. This is very important so plan well.

5. Do not make reference to any political sponsors. Take heed of this one. They will appear and take credit if everything turns out ok, if it doesn’t, be prepared for another profession! Teaching perhaps is a good one.

6. The problem wasn’t created in a day and it won’t be ended anywhere near the timeline. It will end when every last penny/peso can be extracted from the situation.

7. Government entities are not effective in doing the work for a reason other than lower level corruption, insufficient resources, and inability. Understand that they will still have their jobs no matter what the outcome. You may be the cut away entity here so be prepared for that. Do the work but have situational awareness with respect to upper level stakeholders and who is benefitting from what.

8. Do not rest the entire business model on this type of project for the future, period.

9. Significant tactical/operational level Intel will come from locals. You don’t know jack squat and are not working with authorities there right? So there must be what I call magic Intel to drive Operations. Watch the magic vs. your local sources for inconsistencies. You can’t operate unilaterally. Know the sources well and control all information flow.

10. Don’t be led around the AO by bad Intel just weakening rivals and consolidating power to a few that would otherwise not be able to obtain it. This accomplishes nothing to solve the strategic problem. Consider that the strategic problem is not meant to be solved, just transformed.

11. Rehire anyone that may have been fired or offer some compensation until employment is obtained. Kneejerk firings just create bad situations. Nothing good ever comes from it and nothing will go perfectly with something like this. If the project is for real then this small image issue is nothing, forget it and move forward. If adversity can’t be dealt with more maturely, just wait, things are really going to get interesting with a lot of youngsters running around the country.

12. There are significant status of forces and weapons issues the legal department or person should be fully engaged in vs. forum poster busting. Permisos para porte armas for everyone and immunity first off, good luck with that.

13. No girl friends. Stay out of the whore houses!!! Nothing good will come out of that either.

I know I’ve just blown any chances at the in-country PM slot with the last thought. Well, so much for thinking. Buena Suerte.

[whatman]

Did you just put that much effort into this thread? Two thumbs up!

[BKK]

Man, busy traveling for a few days and see all this comedy/drama. This company sounds like it was started by a 15 year old.

I had plenty of good replies that came to mind while reading this sob story, but then they all seemed to vanish like this company. In the end it really does not matter.

[smittycolt]

I heard you get a $300. line of credit with Bank of America for signing on.

No credit check.

[Old_Starlight]

...<snipped for brevity> ... I also have visited others in Atlanta, Los Angeles, Toronto, Chicago, Dallas, Sydney and London.

(bold, underline is mine)

Bullshit, complete and utter! Sydney is not as big a city as some think. Pop barely 4Mil warm bodies and the security industry downunder is very incestuous. How you expect us to believe that your company waltzed into Sydney Australia, set up an office and not one local yokel took notice is beyond me!

This is my home turf (Sydney boy here) and with the amount of research I've been doing about the industry at home these last couple of months, there is no way I wouldn't have heard about your group!

If you did/do business here, I would have heard the company name. If you are not doing business here, then why have an office? ...and before you go and claim an Aussie Govt. secret contract, unplug your PC and walk away quietly because There are no Aussie Govt. contracts, secret or otherwise, out there with your company's name on it or anything that sounds similar.

If you did in fact visit Sydney, tell me what suburb the office was situated in ... was it St Kilda, or Fortitude valley? And which terminal at Bankstown Airport you flew into. PM if you feel the need for secrecy.

AJ sends.

[Silverbullet]

JWDRep or should I just call you Russell?

I suspect you and your fat, wannabe buddy Tyler S. think you're smarter than either of you really are.

It's interesting how you joined, "not representing the company" but you sent emails and post directly through the Jax Desmond internet system.

You then cry about how you've been "fired" and follow up asking for contact info.

You changed your profile location to NY, but you haven't left Canada,, and haven't strayed too far from where you originally registered and posted.

Coincidentally a new registration comes in from the exact same IP address that you and Jax Desmond use, stating former USMC, LEO, PMC with location listed as Montana. It was a good laugh but we deleted it.

We recieved a msg from "anonymous" asking for help since she thinks Jax Desmond had her brother, a former Marine, murdered. Concurrently you send numerous PM's to members of this site that contain your silly fantasy claims about how bad of a dude Jax Desmond and his buds are, and that they have had people killed and made them disappear. The crown jewel was the claim that they got an Apache helo from North Korea.

Most of this is taking place while you are supposedly "fired" but an amazingly your Jax Desmond email continued to work and stay active and you left it in your profile. I'm sure you'll spin it as some counter espionage effort by Jax Desmond.

The end result-you're banned.

You, Sascha, and Tyler, are IMO 3 losers who will have to work hard just to get to the level of wannabe.

[Boomer-au]

<Mass choppage>If you did in fact visit Sydney, tell me what suburb the office was situated in ... was it St Kilda, or Fortitude valley?



Im pretty sure it was in Fortitude Valley I remember seeing the sign this one time when I came out of the Whiskey a go go .

:P

Boomer

[0699]

JWDRep or should I just call you Russell?

I suspect you and your fat, wannabe buddy Tyler S. think you're smarter than either of you really are.

It's interesting how you joined, "not representing the company" but you sent emails and post directly through the Jax Desmond internet system.

You then cry about how you've been "fired" and follow up asking for contact info.

You changed your profile location to NY, but you haven't left Canada,, and haven't strayed too far from where you originally registered and posted.

Coincidentally a new registration comes in from the exact same IP address that you and Jax Desmond use, stating former USMC, LEO, PMC with location listed as Montana. It was a good laugh but we deleted it.

We recieved a msg from "anonymous" asking for help since she thinks Jax Desmond had her brother, a former Marine, murdered. Concurrently you send numerous PM's to members of this site that contain your silly fantasy claims about how bad of a dude Jax Desmond and his buds are, and that they have had people killed and made them disappear. The crown jewel was the claim that they got an Apache helo from North Korea.

Most of this is taking place while you are supposedly "fired" but an amazingly your Jax Desmond email continued to work and stay active and you left it in your profile. I'm sure you'll spin it as some counter espionage effort by Jax Desmond.

The end result-you're banned.

You, Sascha, and Tyler, are IMO 3 losers who will have to work hard just to get to the level of wannabe.

Better than watching TV... :biggrin:

[Outofcontrol]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

OOC, out

[Silverbullet]

Dear Jax Desmond of Jax Desmond Worldwide,

I truly appreciate the emails that you sent from your mothers basement, today. Even though you used the Contact Us feature the consensus is that it was targeted towards me with your use of the "retiree" in this thread. If I'm wrong please notify me immediately or have another sock puppet register.

It was so kind of you to acknowledge that you have no legal bearing to complain, but you would engage in a frivolous lawsuit, that is obviously without merit, anyway. The fact that you stated you would do this to tie me up for years and it would be so brutal that even my grandchildren would be affected, is very enlightening.

I don't have any grand children and never will but the sentiment is nice. I appreciate you thinking of them.

Your deadline to make this thread disappear was a nice touch. Thanks.

I'm cool with that with you thinking I live in a 3 wheel trailer or whatever you meant with your "we both know....." comment.

As far as your statement about really wanting to meet me- we both know what you were trying to say. This just reinforces the fact that you don't know what you don't know. I'm sure it played well with your staff. Good on you for that. It always pays to keep the help thinking you are the persona you're trying to pass off as real.

In closing, thanks again for thinking enough about me to send more threats.

The tone of your msg was written in such a stern style I almost think you meant it to be intimidating.

I'll be posting your email once I get clearance. I'm sure everyone will see just how special a person you really are.

Best Regards, SB (the retiree)

[Old_Starlight]

<Mass choppage>If you did in fact visit Sydney, tell me what suburb the office was situated in ... was it St Kilda, or Fortitude valley?



Im pretty sure it was in Fortitude Valley I remember seeing the sign this one time when I came out of the Whiskey a go go .

:P

Boomer

;) only the nose knows....

[Miguel]

SB,

How many people does this make now? If I recall correctly, I think this is at least the third or fourth person over the years that have said they wanted to "meet" you, in a less then cordial tone.

Ahh... too funny. I'm sure you'll be checking the perimeter and going to "stand to" on a regular basis at the casa. :rolleyes:

[Spinner]

They have a listing on the Ourbis website, the hours kept at their various international "offices" are pretty funny as listed.

http://www.ourbis.com/1041425-jax-desmond-worldwide-winnipeg


Business hours

New York - 9am - 5pm, Monday - Friday
London - 10am - 3pm, Monday - Friday
Illinois - 24/7/365
Manitoba - By appointment only

NYC works a regular shift, London gets bankers hours, and you have to make an appointment in Manitoba.

Illinois never takes a breather. lol

[Massgrunt]

The Manitoba office used to get a lot of crackpots.

[Virgil Tibbs]

Whats funny about all of this is that if they would have just kept their mouths shut, this thread would have disappeared a long time ago. Just shows their unrivaled business sense and professionalism. When is the last time Blackwater/Xe got into a bickering, whining debate on an internet forum. Threaten lawsuits even though they are unfounded, and generally cry like a bunch of bitches. Jax, go fuck yourself and welcome to the big boy world, now run along Mommy is calling.

[seapig173]

This thread just keeps getting better and better, wish i had popcorn :biggrin:

[Louis]

Jax, go fuck yourself and welcome to the big boy world, now run along Mommy is calling.

LMFAO, thats good. I would like to second that .

[paratroop77]

I love this thread :)

[Silverbullet]

OK, I was now have clearance to to post this. This may be a long post, sorry. It could have died a natural death days ago but for Jax Desmonds behavior.

A couple points:

1. This thread was not even that critical when the Jax Desmond PR person sent his threatening email. In fact, my post just prior to that had offered up the option of Jax Desmond providing someone to clear up the question.

2. I really hadn't given the thread much thought, other than to check ensure no one was posting out of bounds, and to add my one post that was based on experience in the real world when Jax Desmond decided to elevate the issue.

3. During the years of being a Mod and now an Admin, I've learned that the GTG companies don't send out a threatening email as their first response. They especially don't send said email that fails to list even one point they think is wrong. They reach out through people in the industry, who are members here, to make contact with me or one of the other vetted members in order to resolve the issue.

4. We have a reputation for putting out the real word and helping our brothers both military and LE. We aren't going to stop now. No one goes looking for companies like Jax Desmond. In fact it was Jax Desmonds web presence and stupid email that got the ball rolling.

5. In closing, Mr Jax Desmond has obviously underestimated me and the rest of you. Not only is this email arrogant, it's stupid. I can only assume he is so stupid he thinks I'm some broke dick old retiree living on a PFC's salary. That is exactly what I would expect from someone who has never been where the rubber meets the road and never will be.

I have never responded well to threats and I'm not going to start now. Your actions have ensured this thread will live on forever.

Dear Administrator:

I've been advised about the postings you've written about my organization and I'm not impressed.

I know that a letter was sent advising you to cease and desist and I understand your response was that personal opinion is protected by the first amendment.

You're absolutely right.

What isn't protected though is my right to sue you. A very costly and time consuming practice that has previously resulted in some people with lower to mid level incomes having to file bankruptcy, lose property and assets, suffer heart attacks and strokes due to stress, and in some cases, even concede because the amount they're being sued for is far exceeded by the amount they would otherwise lose in legal costs and attorney fees.

While I may not win when it comes to libel or defamation of character, I think both of us can agree that you don't have the funds to be tied up in court for the next few years.

I've spoken with my legal team and if you do not cease and desist within 24 hours of receiving this notice, I will ensure you stayed tied up in court until the time comes that your grandchildren are still paying your debt.

If you think for a second that I'm not serious then I urge you to test me.

If you delete all the comments and all of the posts from your website and server within 24 hours and don't repost them then I'll consider this little matter forgiven and forgotten.

I take my firms reputation and mine very seriously, and I don't take kindly to retirees trying to slander my good name from behind a computer.

Quite honestly, I hope you continue this little side-show of yours. It would be a pleasure to meet you in person.

I hope you have a lovely day.

Very truly yours,

Jax Desmond
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Jax Desmond Worldwide

[Louis]

Jax Desmond IMO, you and your company are chidish unprofessional fuckups. IMO clients who hire you (if that actually happens) are putting their lives and reputation at risk because you obviously have no fucking clue whatsoever what you are doing. I think that you are are a fraud and a liar. Now sue me as well cocksucker, I am in South Africa.

[SOTB]

Tool.

I feel for his parents....

[HighDragLowSpeed]

Ummm...

- wouldn't most legitimate firms have their chief legal counsel send a cease and desist email? I couldn't imagine the head of a legitimate large company sending an email like this as (1) they generally don't have time for it and (2) that's why they have a legal staff

- I'm not a lawyer but why would a person not only make direct threats but also admit in writing that they likely dont have a case if they are going to sue? Both would seem rather counterproductive if the case went to court.

[Jimbo]

Jax Desmond writes like a wronged 17 year old boy, swearing revenge even if it costs him his whole allowance and summer vacation.

Regarding Mexico, I picture Jax riding his BMX, cape flowing freely off his shoulders, into the middle of a Mexican village akin to the Three Amigos, but without the humor and tactical experience of Lucky Day, Dusty Bottoms and Ned Nederlander.

Going viral: http://feraljundi.com/2009/12/10/industry-talk-jax-desmond-revealed-and-it-aint-pretty/

[Virgil Tibbs]

The beauty of all that would be showing his "lawyer" that e-mail and watching him shrink like an 80 year old set of balls.

[Silverbullet]

An interesting point has come to light.

The "anonymous" email claiming Jax Desmond had the senders brother murdered after he worked a "classified project" for them came from an IP address a few blocks away from where the "Jax Desmond CEO..." email came from.

"Jax Desmond" CEO actually sent 2 copies of the above email. One came from the US and one came from Canada. The were exactly the same except for the spacing btwn lines. I assume their coordinating instructions on who was running this part of the lie got crossed up.

[HKUSP45]

This is worse than a joke.

This article http://semanal.milenio.com/node/1556 originally posted by PrarieFive-oh is written in Spanish, but is very interesting reading. It claims that Jax Desmond told Mexican President Felipe Calderon that he could eradicate "Los Zetas" in 4 months if given the contract. I sincerely hope, for the sake of whoever actually does end up working this contract (if it truly exists) that he's right, because that could go horribly wrong.

The problem is, if we believe JDWRep's intial posts (and in the post where he admitted that this was the "largest contract" that they had ever gone after, I don't know why he'd lie about that, because it's self-effacing, which isn't exactly this company's MO) they really haven't done anything like this before. This shifts from protective (defensive) operations to offensive. What, exactly, is thier experience in planning and conducting such operations? Where is their track record for success? Everything on their self-glorifying website points toward close personal protection and security and related operations. In fact, Jax's stated "expertise" is a certificate in CPP from somebody in Israel. This is a far cry from knowing how to plan and conduct what is, in essence, a counter-insurgency campaign.

We've all been looking at this company as a joke, myself included. However, if they HAVE been able to "snow" the president of Mexico into awarding some sort of contract, they may be able to similarly convince some well-meaning LEOs to conduct the work. If so, I fear for those people.

HK

By the way, their website is currently down.

[Virgil Tibbs]

Page 3, top entry if you Google Jax Desmond directs you to here. Wonder how many hits that will bring. Potential clients should love that.

[Outofcontrol]

Oh yeah, Jax Desmond??















Well, FUCK YOU!


BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Retard.

OOC, out

[The Corporate Guy]

Page 3, top entry if you Google Jax Desmond directs you to here. Wonder how many hits that will bring. Potential clients should love that.

Not to mention the potential clients already on this board.

[bobofthedesert]

"I urge you to test me".

LOL, dude, you have already BEEN TESTED, and found wanting.

Someone should do you a favor and put you in touch with Los Zeta's (or more correctly, they with you) so you can discuss your plans for their future with them........that would be :cool: I'm sure they'd love to chat with you about this........

[Ranger5280]

It seems like Jax Desmond might want to take things more seriously as Los Zetas is not a group of gang bangers with limited reach. If this is a bunch of young, dumb kids trying to be cool they may want to consider the potential threat of putting pictures on the web and making false claims of bravado. Chief Lobo made a great point about playing this off as juvenile.

Immediately stop any more press releases in the AO. Back home play everything off as an incredibly ambitious and juvenile idea based in fiction

[Virgil Tibbs]

Maybe he will sue Los Zetas and tie them up in court too.

[Ole crusty bastard]

Maybe he will sue Los Zetas and tie them up in court too.


Now that's funny:biggrin:.

[Silverbullet]

It seems like Jax Desmond might want to take things more seriously as Los Zetas is not a group of gang bangers with limited reach. If this is a bunch of young, dumb kids trying to be cool they may want to consider the potential threat of putting pictures on the web and making false claims of bravado. Chief Lobo made a great point about playing this off as juvenile.

They aren't kids. They just appear to be acting that way. Jax Desmonds email had the same empty bravado that his challenge to Los Zetas did.

[SOTB]

It seems like Jax Desmond might want to take things more seriously as Los Zetas is not a group of gang bangers with limited reach....Although ironically, gang bangers would probably be the very tool narcos from Mexico would utilize to visit these morons. Cheaper, probably already in the AO, and quite willing to do something like this -- even though I honestly doubt that narcos here take seriously the silliness that "Jax" promotes.

BTW "Jax", I am sure you are already aware of the recent interest of a number of persons on the Southern side of the Rio Bravo, in regards to the information that has come to light due to this thread -- some who were quite curious as to your purported contract with the govt. Happy 12th of December, stud (I celebrated early, atole and tamales -- even the sweet tamales)....

[MixedLoad]

"When keeping it real goes wrong..."

[Old_Starlight]

OK, normally I wouldn't go to this much effort for these idiots, but just to underline how long the SOCNET reach actually is...

Link 1 is the search result for an ABN (Australian Business Number) for Jax Desmond.

Link 2 is the same search for Jax Desmond Worldwide, not that it was necessary to do the second search.

If you look down the left of each listing, you will see the number hotlinked to the details of the registrant.

Link 3 is the search result on companies registered with ASIC (Australian Securities and Investment Commission) which are companies that have been registered as corporate entities (as opposed to individuals registered as Sole Traders). A foriegn company would have to register with ASIC in Australia before they could apply to the Australian Tax Office for an ABN. I searched for Jax Desmond. I also ran Jax Desmond Worldwide and I searched for all names. Same result as link 3.

Basically you can not lease a business premises, even short term, without an ABN in Australia. In some cases, you will also need to supply your Articles of Incorporation, and each State or Territory is slightly different and requires a seperate business name registration.

link 1 (http://www.abr.business.gov.au/%28gphyc245znhzyj455b4hc145%29/search.aspx?SearchRequest=Jax%2bDesmond^%2c1%2c0%2 c0%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c1%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c0%2c0 %2c%2c0&start=0)

Link 2 (http://www.abr.business.gov.au/%284ec5cl55qjlwpeywb5knfl55%29/search.aspx?SearchText=Jax+Desmond+Worldwide&StartSearch=True)

Link 3 (http://www.search.asic.gov.au/cgi-bin/gns030c)

Bottom line is that there is simply no evidence to support the existence of a legitimate Sydney Office no way, no how. Now, there are ways around such legal niceties, but why would such a well respected company do something illegal in a friendly foreign country, especially if they are aiming at Govt. Contracts? It's ok Ladies and Gents, that is a rhetorical question. :biggrin:

By the way Jax, Russell or whoever, I'm free to meet for coffee anytime and anywhere in Sydney ... even your office ... just in case you feel the need to threaten me as well. I'm simply a PM away. :rolleyes: Ohh and I may be a softer target for you guys as I was never SF, just your basic baggy arsed grunt turned medic ... nothing to be scared of ...

[Regulator3]

A check 10 minutes ago on the JDW website shows that it now forwards itself to 18 hundred flowers dot com. A search for pages in the website show that they cannot be displayed.

[Old_Starlight]

A check 10 minutes ago on the JDW website shows that it now forwards itself to 18 hundred flowers dot com. A search for pages in the website show that they cannot be displayed.

Now showing some SA and digging a hole big enough to hide in perhaps? :rolleyes:

[HighDragLowSpeed]

A check 10 minutes ago on the JDW website shows that it now forwards itself to 18 hundred flowers dot com. A search for pages in the website show that they cannot be displayed.

I'm not surprised given that their site is/was hosted on a shared domain hosted at hostpapa.com (which basically has a single $7/month plan (http://hostpapa.com/Plan_Features.shtml)available for customers).

Domain Name: JAXDESMOND.COM
Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Whois Server: whois.tucows.com
Name Server: NS1.HOSTPAPA.COM
Name Server: NS2.HOSTPAPA.COM
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Status: clientUpdateProhibited
Updated Date: 05-may-2009
Creation Date: 03-jul-2008
Expiration Date: 03-jul-2010


Imagine that...one of the world's largest physical and IT security companies with such a long reach run on servers provided by a company that only offers a single $7/month shared hosting plan. :rolleyes:

Hey...what are those cars doing pulling up my dri#`%${%&`+'${`%......NO CARRIER..................

[Spinner]

Maybe Jax Desmond is just a front for an ambitious female operative trying to get a leg up in the business.

Where have I seen that before...oh yeah, now I remember...

[Jimbo]

1 800 Flowers is just a cover for Jax Desmond Worldwide. One day, you'll get a delivery of petunias and whammo Jax Desmond Worldwide is in your FACE!!

That, or one more internet tough guy has proven to be a fucking invertebrate braggart.

Too bad we don't have the real names of the douches that perpetrated this canard.

[Jimbo]

Sorry to keep going on this, but this is just flat out hilarious:

nterviewed Aug 2008 in New York, NY (took 6 months)

The hiring process was very lengthy, even more lengthy then my interview with the army. After I submitted my resume I didn't hear anything for about a month. All of a sudden a recruiter showed up at my place of employment and told me that I should call him. When I called him I was flown out to New York where I met with an HR manager. I was then given a package to fill out and over the next couple months went through a series of interviews and tests. I had to complete a polygraph exam, drug testing, physical abilities testing and written tests. I was given a panel interview conducted by professional investigators and then I was investigated by some PI's from Texas. They called people all the back from elementary school and were almost too thorough.

After about six months I received a phone call and was given a plane ticket to go to a location they call Camp Jax where I underwent 16 weeks of intense military style training. At the end of it they told me that I didn't get the position but that turned out to be a test also. I was given a position and have been happy ever since.

They're a great company to work for so long as you're a hard worker. Otherwise don't bother applying because they'll chew you up and spit you out.

Interview Questions
Why should we pick you over a Navy SEAL who's served four tours or a Secret Service agent who protected the President?
View Answers (1)
Would you lie to protect a client?
Answer Question
If your boss asked you to lie to the police or in court would you?
Answer Question
Negotiation Details

It was very difficult. Tends to be their way or the highway. Either take it or walk away.
Other Details

The interview consisted of a 1:1 Interview, a Group/Panel Interview, an IQ/Intelligence Test, a Skills Test, a Personality Test, a Drug Test and a Background Check.


From this, it sounds like Jax Desmond Worldwide is the most thorough interviewer on the planet. Jax Desmond Worldwide is more thorough than the CIA and FBI for its hiring. Too bad Jax Desmond is a fraud.


http://www.glassdoor.com/Interview/Jax-Desmond-Worldwide-Interview-Questions-E251098.htm

[ateixeira]

Most of the time that I visit here is for learning. Now I can add entertainment to my reasons for having joined SOCNET. Well done guys! Let the fire burn..

[Jimbo]

Jax Desmond Worldwide, the video:
http://www.vantagestudios.ca/clients/jax/

Its all stock footage with no clearly identifiable Jax Desmond Worldwide personnel, but amusing nonetheless.

(I've downloaded a copy, in case it gets taken down.)

[Dirtygoat123]

(Sorry ahead of time about the length and if I am out of line)
Just in Case they come back with some bull


Re: Jax Desmond Worldwide

To Whom It May Concern:

(I.e. Russell, Tyler, Sascha, Elmo, Elvis, the Tooth Fairy, Easter Bunny etc.)


I have remained in the shadows watching from afar and have only forwarded correspondence I received previously from JWDRep to Silver Bullet up to this point, but I now feel compelled to post. You have openly threatened legal action against this site and its members, who have done nothing more than to look out for one another with the best intentions in mind. Had it not been for them I may have wrongfully forwarded my personal info and CV to you and held on to some misplaced hope of a new career. Well it is because they saved me and did nothing more than look out for one another, as fellow Veterans, friends and members of this site that I was willing (as many have already done) to go out of my way for them.

Unlike your company, its principals and associates (Posers), I may know a little about the law and my firm maintains a fulltime (REAL) legal staff. After consulting them about this situation and after going over your initial request and subsequent demand (dumb ass threat) this is what the real “Lawyer’s” (not dumb ass kids) have to say. Your claims are completely groundless and you are making idle threats because as the members have PROVED you have been caught in one lie after another. You have consistently misrepresented yourself and you’re so called company which by the way was incorporated in the U.K. (which would not be the venue in this matter anyway) on September 9, 2008, under the laws of the U.K. Companies Act, registration number 0_6928__ (omitted).

Furthermore you have obviously no idea how UK Common Law or US Law (Based on UK) works because, if you did you would know that you would be talking about a Libel suit which are nearly impossible to win for a Plaintiff in the best of circumstances here in the US. Let alone when we at SOCNET have documentation to PROVE without a doubt that you misrepresented yourself and company numerous times (truth = the best defense for a Libel suit) in which case we would not be in violation of Libel/Deformation laws (as were not lying, you are.) Any reasonable and prudent person (Lawyer talk) with access to all the facts of this case can clearly see why given the nature of what the men & women (far more honorable than you and your associates) on this site do for a profession feel the need to vet potential employers.

This is common practice in the USA and in all industries ,their is ABSOLUTLY no legal precedent challenging this or the subsequent disclosure of open source (public) potential derogatory information between potential applicants (Google employer review in the absence of having a REAL Attorney.) And if you should feel compelled to pursue this, know that even in the most Liberal of venues here in the USA a Judge would see this for what it was (frivolous) and dismiss immediately. That would only highlight you (more so than you have already) in the public eye as the Registered Foreign Government Contractor # 211_646__ (That can change) who is going after Vets (real ones, not posers) I’m sure you will the public to be sympathetic to your bullshit (not likely) in NYC (btw went to 40 Wall St for lunch very nice but it was a bit chilly out and oh wait for… it but no record of you surprise), Chicago, or wherever else you claim to have offices. I highly recommend that you, your employee’s and company cease all communications immediately with Socnet and its members (you will just dig yourself deeper.) If I were you I would E&E and worry about the real bad guy’s like Los Zetas who you challenged so publicly and informed of your intentions, when you obviously don’t have the Army of contractors you need to back you up. I was able to find your info, DOB, and names through public records and if I can find it, so can they! When there executing ops like this one “In perhaps their most brazen U.S. attack, Zetas posing as a police SWAT team in Phoenix murdered a rival trafficker and exchanged fire with real police arriving on the scene.”(Ninja) I would use some OPSEC when talking of future ops specifically targeting them. I know NO ONE here wishes any malice upon you, but seriously stop the bullshit threats and un-fuck yourself, thanks for coming out

Warm Regards

DG
(The FNG who loves this site)

IF ANY SOCNET MEMBER RECIEVES ANY COMMUNICATION IN THE FORM OF THREATS FROM THIS COMPANY, IT’S EMPLOYEE’S , OR A AUCTUAL REAL ATTORNEY IN WRITING, ON A COMPANY LETTER HEAD, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO FORWARD TO ME AND I WILL HAVE SOMEONE RESPOND ACCORDINGLY.

[Richman]

Stepping out of my lane here for a bit but I didn't read this anywhere. Apparently he was just a broker a few months ago....

Comment #2 by: Peter Calibrese on 26 Jun 2009, 01:24 GMT reply to this comment
Has anyone checked on this Jax Desmond character. I have never heard of him and been working for a large PMC. Also, found a couple citations on Wikipedia but they were deleted. He really is bogus and none of these people are his employees including Speers as a friend of mine told me he really just is like a job placement service but a wannabe security guy. Wonder if he has ever stood foot on the front lines?


Comment #3 by: Grow Up Peter on 16 Jul 2009, 00:46 GMT reply to this comment
I find this funny... You refer to Jax Desmond Worldwide as a person yet it's a company. You start it off by saying you've never heard of Jax Desmond Worldwide but a sentence later claim them to be "bogus". If you've never heard of them and have only one friend that has then how are you such an expert... After reading your post I googled them also and I found more then you claim to have found. In fact I found quite a bit... I would suggest that before you start unsuccessfully badmouthing a company that actually seems to do some good, that you first research your findings.

Oh and in regards to them being bogus because "none of them are there people"... I found this right on their website and copied it just for you Petey:

"JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD. IS A PROTECTIVE SERVICES BROKER WHO IS AN AGENT OF ITS CUSTOMERS. JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD. IS NOT A LICENSED SECURITY GUARD AND/OR PRIVATE INVESTIGATION COMPANY, AND DOES NOT EMPLOY THE AGENTS/OPERATIVES OR OWN/OPERATE THE VEHICLES/AIRCRAFT/EQUIPMENT PROVIDED TO ITS CLIENTS. ALL SERVICES ARRANGED BY JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD. ARE PROVIDED BY PROPERLY LICENSED AND PRE-VETTED AGENCIES AND OPERATORS WHOSE BACKGROUND, TRAINING AND EXPERIENCE EITHER MEETS OR EXCEEDS THE STANDARDS SET FORTH BY JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD."


Oooooo how misleading of them.... Seriously, grow up.



Found here:

http://news.softpedia.com/news/Bodyguard-Speaks-Out-in-Howard-K-Stern-Case-107040.shtml

....Back in my lane now....

[MixedLoad]

Jax Desmond Worldwide also has a really professional Facebook page with 557 friends.

He also used the sweet James Bond'esque picture of himself and his two secretaries. This reeks of a covertly funded Fortune 500 company.

http://i97.photobucket.com/albums/l232/Matador275/JaxDesmondFacebook.jpg

[HighDragLowSpeed]

The Jax Desmond site is back online with a message saying it is "undergoing maintenance".

Perhaps they didnt get their allowance to be able to come up with the $7 for this month's hosting until this afternoon.

[MeatLasagna]

Nevermind. Handled by PM.

[HighDragLowSpeed]

lets look to see how much input the Jax Desmond legal team had in their legal statement:

Jax Desmond Paragraph

PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING TERMS AND CONDITIONS RELATING TO YOUR USE OF THIS SITE CAREFULLY. By using this site, you are deemed to have agreed to these terms and conditions of use. We reserve the right to modify them at any time. You should check these terms and conditions periodically for changes. By using this site after we post any changes to these terms and conditions, you agree to accept those changes, whether or not you have reviewed them. If at any time you choose not to accept these terms and conditions of use, please do not use this site.

This is word for word from http://www.ymca.net/general/ymca_terms_and_conditions.html

Jax desmond legalese about submissions:

Submissions

We welcome your comments about any of the Sites. However, unless a Site has set up a specific submissions policy, we will not review or consider any unsolicited creative submissions. We hope you will understand that this policy is intended to avoid the possibility of future misunderstandings in the event that projects developed by our professional staff might seem to others to be similar to their own creative work. Accordingly, we must ask that you not send us any original creative ideas, suggestions or materials. If, despite our request, you send us any creative idea, suggestion or material ("Submission"), it shall become our property. No Submission will be subject to any obligation of confidence by us, and we will not be liable for any use or disclosure of any Submission. We will exclusively own all known or later-existing rights to the Submission worldwide and will be entitled to the unrestricted use of the Submission for any purpose, without compensation to the provider of the Submission.

If you are submitting something to a Site that has set up a submissions policy, please consult that site for its specific requirements.

taken word for word from http://www.realgirlsmedia.com/terms_and_conditions.html. The Links paragraph is also exactly the same except the address.

Forums and registrations are taken word for word from http://www.farriers.com/terms_conditions.html except for their name and address.

In short, from what I can tell, the vast majority of the Jax Desmond legal page is lifted word for word from other sources. I am not a llawyer but some of it even seems to provide conflicting guidance so either jax desmond has really poor legal guidance or there was no legal review of the material.

These guys are real clowns....

[Jimbo]

Anyone ever hear of Tylor Swain, whose book on Organized Crime Jax Desmond Worldwide apparently published?

http://www.lulu.com/product/download/organized-crime/5614509

Likely identifable with Tyler Swain, identified in Google results as the Executive Vice President of Jax Desmond Worldwide?

[MeatLasagna]

Anyone ever hear of Tylor Swain, whose book on Organized Crime Jax Desmond Worldwide apparently published?

http://www.lulu.com/product/download/organized-crime/5614509

Likely identifable with Tyler Swain, identified in Google results as the Executive Vice President of Jax Desmond Worldwide?

Haha. For only $13.75?... It's so hard to resist :biggrin:

[bobofthedesert]

I know NO ONE here wishes any malice upon you

I'm not so sure that this is the case. You know, the gene pool being clorox'ed and all....

[Old_Starlight]

I'm not so sure that this is the case. You know, the gene pool being clorox'ed and all....

+10 There were threats made, or implied, I figures gloves are off.

If you want to play with the big dogs, you need to learn to piss on the big trees and I am guessing these folk are still sitting down to piss. ( I'm up to pissing on medium trees and standing most of the time :biggrin: )

[Louis]

http://www.aprodex.com/jax-desmond-worldwide-1564-l.aspx

On Aprodex Jax Desmond lists his company as having operated in Iraq, South Africa, Mozambique, Swaziland , Zimbabwe (amongst many other places) all places that I am very familiar with. I checked on the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority in South Africa and the result was " no data in the system for the input details. " So Jax you and your company have either worked here illegally or you are lying about your experience here in South Africa. Perhaps you or your rep would like to detail your experience in Mozambique , Swaziland and Zimbabwe so I can check that out as well for the rest of the boards info. I know you would want to verify all your claims to shut us up :rolleyes:

[Old_Starlight]

http://www.aprodex.com/jax-desmond-worldwide-1564-l.aspx

On Aprodex Jax Desmond lists his company as having operated in Iraq, South Africa, Mozambique, Swaziland , Zimbabwe (amongst many other places) all places that I am very familiar with. I checked on the Private Security Industry Regulatory Authority in South Africa and the result was " no data in the system for the input details. " So Jax you and your company have either worked here illegally or you are lying about your experience here in South Africa. Perhaps you or your rep would like to detail your experience in Mozambique , Swaziland and Zimbabwe so I can check that out as well for the rest of the boards info. I know you would want to verify all your claims to shut us up :rolleyes:

Hey Louis,

next they'll be saying they worked in Rhodesia as well :biggrin:

[tangodown]

These seem to be some of the main players for Jax Desmond Worldwide. You have to love the internet, some things just never die.
Sascha Forst

Tylor Cadger Swain
Shane Chamberlain and lets not forget Mr. Jax Desmond who maybe living with his girlfriend Jenina and her son Damon, who have a cat named Molly. No shit this was on a deleted page I had found. Along with a photo of whom I guess is Mr. Desmond. All the office's that they have used are Mail Box Drops. As one of the other members has point out, JDW is a register UK Company with www.companieshouse.gov.uk . With Mail Box Etc. at Victoria London. The other odd thing is the guy is 26 or 27 years old.:biggrin:

[Jimbo]

The Jax Desmond Worldwide site is back to being auto-forwarded to 1800 flowers. Beware the petunias and begonias.

[MakoZeroSix]

"When keeping it real goes wrong..."

LOL!

"After Jax Desmond was released from the hospital, he moved in with his grandmother. While SOCNET went home with his girlfriend and had sex with her...Three times."

[Boomer-au]

lifted from www.freelancesecurity.com


Average Pricing: $125/hour
Benefits of using Jax Desmond Worldwide:

- A stable company with an exceptional record.
- Global operations.
- Full tactical support for hostile environments.
- 24 hour advice hotline.
- Private aircraft to serve your needs.
- Proprietorial technologies and processes.
- Offices in North America and Europe.
- Government protected privacy for all clients.
- American Express rewards program.
- VIP Access to exclusive events, restaurants and nightclubs across North America.
- Discounts on airfare, hotel and car rentals.
- Industry certified personnel with enhanced military experience.






sign me up

[Louis]

Hey Louis,

next they'll be saying they worked in Rhodesia as well :biggrin:

Its all entirely possible given Jax's 007 capabilities - perhaps with all their dangerousness they can also do time travel :biggrin:

[Regulator3]

The two girls in the photos are:

Paulina Parada
Wenda Lee Martin-Cameron

They state that they are a company incorporated in the Republic of Seychelles, with the physical address we have in London and the mailing address we have in New York. The type of corporation they claim to be in Seychelles can be had for less than $500 and done in a couple hours over the internet.

[Virgil Tibbs]

Sounds like Cox Sucksmore needs to clean up his scam. I like the claims of "Full Tactical Support for Hostile Environments" and "VIP Access to exclusive events, restaurants and nightclubs across North America" and the topper "American Express rewards program"

Hey, I get a great new bodyguard AND I also got reward points on my AMEX!! Let's go to a club, I am VI-fucking-P. Thanks to Cox.

[tangodown]

In addition to these exclusive benefits each Protector Card member will receive a brand new luxury automobile as their gift for signing up.

Sign up Minimum Balance: $1,000,000.00 USD

I wounder who the underwriters are for they're Protector Card? I would hope AMEX is not that stupid...

[Massgrunt]

Benefits of using Jax Desmond Worldwide:

- 24 hour advice hotline.

"Dear Jax... my girlfriend Dawn and I have been together (officially together anyway lol) for about eight and a half months now. She says our sex life has become boring and stale. How can I spice things up and recapture that first cyber-sex spark?

-Monogamous in Manitoba


- Proprietorial technologies and processes.
Don't settle for those off brand worldwide security providers with their mere proprietary technologies and processes.


- American Express rewards program.
- VIP Access to exclusive events, restaurants and nightclubs across North America.
- Discounts on airfare, hotel and car rentals.
No more waiting in line with the other poor schlubs... you're a JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE client now! Go get 'em tiger!"



- Industry certified personnel with enhanced military experience.
Surgically enhanced. And they aim to please.

*Blue Oyster Bar theme*

[Blackjack78]

Anyone ever hear of Tylor Swain, whose book on Organized Crime Jax Desmond Worldwide apparently published?

http://www.lulu.com/product/download/organized-crime/5614509

Likely identifable with Tyler Swain, identified in Google results as the Executive Vice President of Jax Desmond Worldwide?

It's my O/C bible, furgeddabouitit.

[Jimbo]

*Blue Oyster Bar theme*

"When you need bulk faggotry, turn to the world's leader in massive faggotry deployment solutions: Jax Desmond Worldwide."

[HighDragLowSpeed]

Don't forget Vantage tactical which is a jax Desmond Company. It looks like the facebook page has been taken down but here's the cache:

http://74.125.47.132/search?q=cache:SMIqa3KuKBwJ:pa-in.facebook.com/group.php%3Fgid%3D60129721711+%2B%22vantage+tactic al%22&cd=5&hl=en&ct=clnk

A Division of the Jax Desmond Worldwide CorporationPrivacy Type:Open: All content is public.ਸੰਪਰਕ ਜਾਣਕਾਰੀ
Email:ਵੈੱਬਸਾਈਟ:http://proshop.jaxdesmond.comਦਫ਼ਤਰ:1-815-346-3537ਤਾਜ਼ਾ ਖ਼ਬਰਾਂ
News:Specializing in "hard to find" equipment that most stores either don't or can't carry.

- Recon Scout Robotics
- Heavy-Duty Tactical Track Robots
- Armored Personnel Carriers (emphasis mine)
- Unmanned Aerial Surveillance Vehicles
- Wireless Crisis Communication and Throw Phone Systems
- Covert Digital A/V Recorders
- Fog Security Systems
- Custom Uniforms and Carrying Cases
- Polymer Tactical Knives
- Frequency Disruptors
- Child Identification Systems
- Less Lethal and Lethal Firearms
- Safe Room / Panic Room Installations
- Global Tracking and Positioning Systems
- Computer Software and Watchdog Programs
- AES Encryption Software
- Truth Verification and Emotion Identification Programs
- Automated Conversation Analyzers
- Emotional "Gate Keeper" Voice Access Control Systems
- Polygraph Equipment
- Metal and Explosive Detection Systems
- Various High-Tech Security and Access Control Systems
- Email, Text and Phone Spoofing Software


We also carry all the usual equipment such as clothing, restraints, watches, guard tour systems, packs, tactical entry equipment and more...


*Due to the nature and sensitivity of some of these products, we reserve the right to refuse to sell to any person or organization at our sole discretion. In addition certain products listed above are only available to bonafide law enforcement agencies and/or in specific countries or locations worldwide.

Perhaps the polygraph equipment would be be used in-house starting with the ownership. Is there a hetero version of this company someplace?

Just Noticed: The Jax Desmond Worldwide LinkedIn group isn't active anymore either...

There's also a hilarious bio of jax desmond here: http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=Jax+Desmond+Worldwide&sort=rel

[Richman]

A video (posted by Jax Desmond) is from the link above of a local news station interviewing two if Jax Desmond's PIs. I wonder if they (the PIs) really know wtf is up with Jax?

http://pa-in.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=138735655314&oid=60129721711

You need a facebook account to view.

[Rotor Strike please]

OH NO...THEY'RE GONNA SUE!!!
http://www.internetlibrary.com/cases/lib_case433.cfm

Pretty much puts the smack down on that idea. Fools, the lot of them.

[HighDragLowSpeed]

here is the connection to the offshore company:

Sascha Forst works for Coldwell, Seymour & Robinson in the INTERNATIONAL CORPORATE LAW department.

From the Coldwell, Seymour & Robinson website (http://www.csr-corporation.com/en/contact.html):

Offers clients assistance with all aspects of offshore company formation, nominee service

Cost? Seychelles: full incorporation for 680 Euro.

[Outofcontrol]

Hey Jax-

Members of this site FROM ALL OVER THE GLOBE have just posted everything there is to know about you except your shoe size....to include the name of your fucking dog.

You could learn a lot from the mantra of this site.

"Read more...post less."

Your mouth was doing this (<) when it should have been doing this (-).

Good job, hero.

OOC, out

[Regulator3]

I wonder if Sascha is involved in the scam, or if they just used his name? I guess as the guy that set the corporation up, his name would have been on some of the paperwork we saw -- I suppose they could have just attributed those statements to him.

I almost wish JDW were around to give us a feeble explanation for all of this -- I'm sure it would be amusing. Maybe Tyler can ninja kick this thread out of existence, or maybe just swallow it whole -- by the looks of his waistline, it appears that he's pretty experienced in that sort of technique.

[MakoZeroSix]

I can totally see this debacle ending with Jax eating his own pistol while he rages in front of the computer. I think it might look something like this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g_VtIkF8pDY

[HKUSP45]

By the way, Jax, whoever took your official pictures (like the Daniel Craig-esque one of you leaning on the railing in front of the large corporate window) was using a nice camera with a crappy lens.

Next time, spring for the real thing. I know, I know, it's not easy to do on a Seychellian budget.

HK

[Louis]

Right now Jax Desmond is more in the news than EODT losing VBC - SOCNET replies vs views is Jax Desmond 151 and 8109 to EODT 119 and 7497 and Jax you didnt even have a contract to start off with :biggrin:

[Johan]

We must design a Jax Desmond Recon Scout Robot Operator patch. The name alone is too awesome to not be used.

Regards,

[Regulator3]

Speaking of news -- I wonder if a press release, on similiar wesites to the the ones we saw previously, will emerge explaining the truth of the matter and exposing Jax Desmond Worldwide and its players for the scam it actually is.

[Sierra290]

News:Specializing in "hard to find" equipment that most stores either don't or can't carry.

- "Emotional" Gate Keeper Voice Access Control Systems


I had one of these but she's now filing for divorce :biggrin:

BTW I googled the quote above and guess which site was fourth link down on the front page? lmao

[HighDragLowSpeed]

Random Stuff About Jax Desmond

- worked at Invicta Security in Manitoba for at least a year which seems to be an alarm company (http://www.411.ca/business/Manitoba/Thompson/Invicta-Security-Services/6420707.html)

- Why not take a Jax Desmond helicopter to the Hamptons! (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=8589887945&topic=80915). Sorry, had to post that one...still makes me laugh that someone would post such services on facebook.


- In 2008, jax desmond was working at an instructor at IPSSC (although supposedly Jax Desmond Worldwide was started as a home based company and winning government contracts in 2006 :rolleyes: )

Jax Desmond
IPSSC Instructor
Protective Services Specialist

jdesmond@ipsscmembers.com

- The instructor position seems a bit less high speed than this nonsense posted around the same time:

jaxdesmond $ 1500 1 day(s) 2/11/2008 15:02
(No Feedback Yet)
Jax Desmond is a recognized Private Military Contractor by the United States Department of Defense and NATO. He is a certified Counter Terrorism and Executive Protection Specialist and holds certification as a Combat Paramedic as well. When hiring Jax Desmond you can be assured that all Agents / Operatives working on his behalf are equally qualified to perform their specific tasks. Some Agents are former Federal Law Enforcement while some have direct counter insurgent experience working with the Special Forces in the UK, Israel, Canada and of course, the United States. We are also capable of providing transportation using the latest in ballistic technology. Our fleet includes the armored Mercedes S600 Guard, a 16 passenger Cadillac stretch, a Lincoln Town Car as well as GMC Yukons and Range Rovers. Please see profile for further details.




- Here is an interesting connection between him and IPSSC. His company at the time has the same number as IPSSC...

Jax Desmond Protective Services
Tel. (734) 418-8778
eMail jdesmond@ops-int.com

but..but...but I thought JDW was formed in 2006? Here's the info on IPSSC:

IPSSC
Join our Talent Pool
Company Address:

PO Box 503
Wayne,
MI
48184-0503
United States
Website

Telephone: +1 (734) 418 8778
Company Description

The IPSSC or Institute of Protection Specialists & Security Contractors is an International Non Government Organization (INGO) which, is primarily dedicated to providing a basic standard of professionalism and work ethic within the protective services industry.



The IPSSC provides training and a fraternal membership association to members who operate as protection specialists, threat management consultants and as private security contractors (Private Military Contractors) from all around the globe.
Global Offices/Areas of Operation
We have offices and/or operational experience in the following countries:
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Services

from http://www.aprodex.com/ipssc-727-l.aspx

registration info:

Registrant Contact:
Miguel Denyer
NA NA ()

Fax:
31731 Taft St
Wayne, MI 48184
US

Administrative Contact:
NA
Miguel Denyer (president@ops-int.com)
+1.7347294901
Fax:
31731 Taft St
Wayne, MI 48184
US


- Jax Desmond's birthday is August 19.

- He's a member of the Butler Bureau (http://www.facebook.com/wall.php?id=22476742288&page=1&hash=01eb5fbc0e13acaf89ceced60740ca02&_fb_noscript=1)

[bobofthedesert]

There's also a hilarious bio of jax desmond here: http://www.wikigrain.org/?req=Jax+Desmond+Worldwide&sort=rel


"Resides in his hometown of Manitoba, Canada."

Yeah. The whole province is his hometown.....:rolleyes:

[LogdeC]

So I'm chilling on venue today and this guy says "hey, you're always looking for work in Lat Am, I gotta' email saying Jax Desmond is looking for guys to work in Mexico" I says, "yeah? cool! I'll go google the name!"

OMFG! Thanks guys! I don't think that I have posted in years but it's good to know that you all are there for me. lol!!!

- Log

[Silverbullet]

Stand by for some very interesting information on Jax Desmond from a new member.

The world just keeps getting smaller for Jax Desmond every day.

[usmcs4]

after reading the last 8 pages, ill will be standing by to standby for the new info

haha

[mdwest]

Stand by for some very interesting information on Jax Desmond from a new member.

The world just keeps getting smaller for Jax Desmond every day.

you know.. every morning I bet he wakes up and says.. "silverbullet.. I hate that guy!" :biggrin:

this has been better than christmas eggnog... warms my heart to watch another clown get separated from the circus...

[Blackjack78]

you know.. every morning I bet he wakes up and says.. "silverbullet.. I hate that guy!" :biggrin:

this has been better than christmas eggnog... warms my heart to watch another clown get separated from the circus...

I really think it's Frenchy. I mean how can one get mad at SB? Ok, he's old and is on a fixed income, but come on. lol

[5831lvn]

I do believe this is what's known as a learning experience....Or as one of my mentors used to say....fuck around, fuck around...you're not gonna be around....

[Slick0311]

I really think it's Frenchy. I mean how can one get mad at SB? Ok, he's old and is on a fixed income, but come on. lol

Back to living on borrowed time again for him. :biggrin:

[Old_Starlight]

I had one of these but she's now filing for divorce :biggrin:


TOOO Bloody funny! You're lucky you didn't get my old one ;) Maybe you could send yours back to JD after she's finished the legal action in Family Court ;)

[Old_Starlight]

you know.. every morning I bet he wakes up and says.. "silverbullet.. I hate that guy!" :biggrin:

this has been better than christmas eggnog... warms my heart to watch another clown get separated from the circus...

So JD is the newest member of the I HATE SB Fan Club? :biggrin:


As this thread progresses, I'm starting to think I should put "SOCNET Member" on my CV under "Professional Associations" :biggrin: (well most of you reading my CV know me from here anyway LOL)

I'm now waiting for the angry emails from JD's mum crying foul for us all picking on her little boy and threatening to tell our mums ;)

[IPSSC]

Gentlemen (and Ladies), I would like to take this opportunity to set the record straight about Jax Desmond and his apparent connection with my organization. I am founder of IPSSC and owner of Overwatch Protection Solutions International, LLC and it has been brought to my attention that the Walter Mitty brigade (aka Jax Desmond) has been fraudulently using my company details to further his owner imaginary career.

So how did he come by my company's details? I hear you all ask... so here is the deal...

Jax Desmond attended a basic bodyguard skills course that IPSSC was running in North Dakota over the last week of September in 2008. There were only 5 students on the course at the time three of which were Jax and his associates.
Jax was permitted, albeit through lack of due diligence and lack of judgment on my part, to assist in instructing on a part of the course for which, he and his associates claimed he was duly qualified and experienced. However, it became very quickly apparent that he didn't know his *ss from his elbow and therefore, was denied the opportunity to continue and resumed his position as student.
Throughout the course, he was constantly trying to impress everyone around him, especially the young female staff at the venue where the course was being conducted and complete strangers who were in no way connected to the course at all.

Upon completion of the course he was sent on his way and very shortly afterward, his membership to IPSSC was cancelled and his access to our member site was blocked.

His only connection to IPSSC was as a student on one course which was a basic, entry level course at that. He has never represented IPSSC or Overwatch in any capacity and he never will.

Since the course, my associates conducted a discrete investigation into Jax Desmond's background and have turned up the following:

He has a company based in Winnipeg that provides security services (event security) however, he does not have the required license for providing such services.
He has an office address in New York, NY which is just a PMB and is not a legally registered business since he does not reside in the United States and no "representative" of his company lives in the US nor does he have the required NY state license for providing security services out of New York.
He has a company registered with Companies House in London UK which again goes to a PMB in London and again is illegal since Jax does not reside in the UK, has no company representatives in the UK and does not possess the required SIA licensure for providing security services from the UK.
He worked for a short time for Group 4 Security out of Winnipeg as a sub-contractor but was binned from a contract after they discovered he had no license and had opened a law suit against them when they refused to pay him for the uncompleted contract.
He "fired" four female employees after an event security gig because he "caught them drinking on the job" - his own Facebook photographs of his attendance at the event as a security contractor clearly show him also consuming alcoholic beverages and it was later discovered that the females in question were fired because of their reluctance to become "more involved" with him during the course of the event.
Further investigation into some of his more spurious claims include:
He has "NATO" credentials for being a PMC (upon being queried, he very nice lady in the NATO HQ in Belgium informed my (as per my expectation) that NATO only gives "credentials" to Press officials needing access to certain areas during NATO operations...period).
He is the 7th largest PMC in the world - this comes from a combination of an entry in a gaming blog somewhere and an ongoing dispute between Wikipedia and Jax as to the veracity of his autobiography that he posted there several times despite being repeatedly deleted by Wikipedia Administrators. He has attempted to use an article from a New Delhi (India) newspaper that listed his company alphabetically alongside a bunch of others and since his was 7th on the list, this equated to his being the 7th largest in the world. (Whatever happened to the quiet professionals?)
He is also somehow connected via some secret ninja connection to the Anna Nicole Smith saga through some dodgy connection to a PI.

In my humble opinion, after seeing first hand exactly what a Walt Jax is, that he suffers from a Narcissistic Personality Disorder (Hi, I am Jax and I love me... do you love me too?). His entire empire is nothing more than smoke and mirrors and he is a dangerous individual to work for since he does not have any idea on how to operate within the security industry. He lacks any idea of the concept of CommSec and is likely to get people killed due to his inability to keep his mouth shut. Actually performing on a sensitive contract and not being able to tell his mom, girlfriend, Facebook buddies and the like about it would kill him.

That said, I would like to re-emphasize that Jax Desmond does not represent Overwatch nor IPSSC in any way, shape or form.

Currently, Overwatch is ramping up for an expected contract award for the Middle East in mid 2010 and our sister organization, IPSSC is currently under development with some new alliances to some very well known and respected schools currently being forged. I for one do not want any misrepresented, fraudulent claims by Jax Desmond or anyone from his organizations to be allowed to damage that so I humbly request that you disregard any claims by this persona non gratis because he simply does not represent us or in any way have any connection with us.

IPSSC currently boasts an Instructor Cadre of some very professional and experienced operators/instructors, some of whom, some of you may know... granted it was a lack of judgment and lack of due diligence on my part that led to us being remotely connected to this clown to start with but rest assured, the situation has been rectified and the mistake will never be made again and I would like to make sure that this sorry situation does not cast a shadow on our future development or the possibility of some of you becoming members and/or course attendees in the future.

In closing, I would like to take this opportunity to wish all of you a happy holiday season and for those away on business that you stay safe.

Best Regards,

IPSSC

PS. I welcome comments from anyone so feel free to hurl abuse, pass on well wishes, seasons greetings, whatever!!

[Old_Starlight]

PS. I welcome comments from anyone so feel free to hurl abuse, pass on well wishes, seasons greetings, whatever!!

Well all very interesting.

Let me simply say Welcome and Merry Christmas.

[SOTB]

I welcome comments from anyone so feel free to hurl abuse, pass on well wishes, seasons greetings, whatever!!Dude, everyone has stepped on their dick before, usually it doesn't wind up getting publicized. Unfortunately, I think anyone that is associated with "Jax" -- even briefly, and no matter the details of the association -- is likely to come away feeling and maybe even looking "soiled."

Dude, thanks for coming here and dropping this info.

Good luck to you on your future contract -- and Merry Xmas....

[HighDragLowSpeed]

IPSSC

Welcome to SOCNET.

Thank you for clearing up any questions about the past interactions with Jax Desmond in such a professional manner. Your approach reflects well on your organization.

Since I was the person that first posted about Jax desmond's link to the IPSSC organization, please know that Jax Desmond does routinely claim an association with your organization - enough that I thought that there might be more than a casual business relationship. Perhaps a link on your homepage back to this thread would be beneficial to proactively clearing up any questions that casual observers might have reference the association.

Enjoy the Michigan winter (which I don't miss - I grew up very close to where you live now) and have a happy holiday.

HDLS

[IPSSC]

HighDragLowSpeed,

Thank you for your suggestion to place a link on our site... it is done!

Anyone visiting our site with any misconceptions about Jax Desmond will now be able to read about it here.

[BKK]

- Why not take a Jax Desmond helicopter to the Hamptons! (http://www.facebook.com/topic.php?uid=8589887945&topic=80915). Sorry, had to post that one...still makes me laugh that someone would post such services on facebook.


$40K for ten 30 min flights? Thats $8k per flight hour for a Bell Long Ranger???

[Virgil Tibbs]

Here is Jax's next job. Birthday Clown.

[Starlight]

I'm now waiting for the angry emails from JD's mum crying foul for us all picking on her little boy and threatening to tell our mums ;)



Damn you AJ. You know I have the flu, busted ribs and a subluxed shoulder, and then you suggest I "just go check out the Jax Desmond thread"... :eek:

Thanks for helping me to discover new pain thresholds...

Bastard. :biggrin:

[iraqgunz]

Wow- this is almost unreal. My only question now is who has the rights to to the movie? Jax D vs. SOCNET.

[ComputerForensicGuy]

Wow- this is almost unreal. My only question now is who has the rights to to the movie? Jax D vs. SOCNET.


The trailer is available already Here (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/movie-uk-f2e6233faeae731db1f864ace3e4bc00.html)

[Old_Starlight]

The trailer is available already Here (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/movie-uk-f2e6233faeae731db1f864ace3e4bc00.html)

LOL ... SB looks like Merlin ;)

[Starlight]

Oh SNAP! There goes another rib!

[Sierra290]

The trailer is available already Here (http://www.grapheine.com/bombaytv/movie-uk-f2e6233faeae731db1f864ace3e4bc00.html)

Now that is funny! I'm waiting for the Hilter-ranting-in-the-bunker prequel :biggrin:

[Local]

You know, it smacks of some serious lack of SA, survival instinct, or general good sense to pick a fight personally with a very well respected member of an organization that has already proven its reach far exceeds your own.

Not only that, but we have rules against frivolous law suits. Stating he knew it was frivolous and was going to do it anyway would probably find him liable for quite the counter suit, punative damages, trebel damages (that's 3x whatever you can claim)... not to mention I know a few SOCNET lawyers here that can justify quite the fee's, that would be willing to work on consignment... and I'm sure there are more of you here that I don't know that would make themselves available to SB.

I mean I've been accused of getting in over my head every now and then... but this is ridiculous. What possible positive outcome could he see in this?

Really its like charging a tank waving around a wet noodle.

/ Back to my lane now... just had to comment.
- Local.

[AOD]

I just want to thank SB and the other BTDTs and all whom have contributed to this massively informational thread.

This is the kind of high grade intelligence/information that keeps Me logging into SOCNET on an almost daily basis.

There is no other website that can offer such a depth of knowledge to the the world wide operator as this.

To the BTDTs of SOCNET that are now retired from the field I personally class your information contributions to this website as operational/Active Duty and I thank you for that.

SB, you defiantly went LIVE on this thread. Outstanding !

AOD

[Bastian]

Since this is the post that drew me to this site, I felt it appropriate to say thank you to everyone here, as you have educated me and kept me from sending my personal info to this guy/company. As a current LEO new to this I say thanks.

FNG, going back to shutting up and reading...

Bas
Missouri

[Delcineo]

A 'major' corporation would absolutely NOT allow the CEO to send the above cited letter. Any correspondence would be sent by the law firm representing them. A cease and desist order would be sent by the law firm on their client's behalf. Threats of legal action are nothing more than a clear intimidation tactic, which in and of itself could be construed in some jurisdictions as a legitimate 'cause of action' on the part of the person receiving the threats. Hmmmm,.....SB, you might want to check your legal options out

[Marina]

Jax Desmond

two entries found

1. adjective
Meaning: having or showing a lack of seriousness or maturity; of little consequence or ability <a Jax Desmond boy who didn't know WTF he was getting himself into> — see gay
Synonyms: frivolous, idiotic, moronic, farcical, laughable, ludicrous, ridiculous

2. noun
Meaning: a person or entity misrepresenting themselves as a capable Private Military Company (PMC) with clients in more than 12 countries
Related Words: tool, poser, fraud, liar
Usage: Like a cat toy, Jax Desmond reliably triggered playful attack behavior from members of the special operations community whom Desmond had attempted to exploit while soliciting resumes in a vain effort to broker services to the government of Mexico in the country’s battle with a deadly tamale cartel.

UPDATE: In response, the cartel, Los Pepes, put out a hit on Desmond but relented when his mother sent the boy to his room without supper. Intelligence sources, speaking on condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss sensitive government programs, said the cartel would instead make Desmond a front group to market Pepes tamales in Manitoba.

“I think it is somewhat silly to advertise something like this,” wrote Simon Mann, a well-known PMC expert, from his grim cell in Africa's notorious Black Beach prison. “At this stage, [the Pepes] have the upper-hand and can utilize all of their assets to locate any tamales coming out of Mexico. Why did Desmond feel the need to advertise this? After all, they will need to employ covert assets in their quest for intelligence - now they have simply given a warning to the tamale-eaters.”

Los Pepes denies ties to the company. “Jax Desmond is a fraud and a loser, he has no military experience, he was barely adequate as a security guard. We wouldn’t hire this clown to eat a tamale.”

“That was then, this is now . . ," said Sascha Forst, spokesman with Desmond. Forst explained that the company handles a full range of ethnic food service, “Mexico can’t deal with this struggle alone and if we don’t step up to help them sell tamales, who will?” The company believes they have the resources to assist the country with their very real and worrisome problem. The question now is, will the Pepes make Desmond a tamale-selling lap dog?

VP Tylor Swain was unavailable for comment. He was last reported to be with the illusive Jax Desmond chasing down tamale recipes in his momma’s kitchen.

[Silverbullet]

Hmmmm,.....SB, you might want to check your legal options out

No need. I don't sue people.

My attorney got a good laugh out of the email, though. Unlike Jax Desmonds "legal dept", my guy just happens to be real and accomplished.

[Outofcontrol]

Correction...Simon Mann is a free bird

everything else...solid

OOC, out

[nofear]

Really its like charging a tank waving around a wet noodle.



That's very close to being sig-worthy... :smile:

[sarc88]

I just read this whole thread ... this shit beats Penthouse Forum!!

[IPSSC]

For those who haven't had the opportunity to read the article in "Semanal" regarding Jax Desmond "Secret Agent Double-Oh Nobody" and his claims to Mexico's president Phillipe Calderon... here is a link to a translated page:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=slv&lp=xx_en&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsemanal.milenio.com%2Fnode%2F15 56

It is roughly translated using Babelfish so it isn't perfect but you should get the general gist of things from it.... enjoy (try not to laugh too hard)

Regards,

IPSSC

[Blackjack78]

For those who haven't had the opportunity to read the article in "Semanal" regarding Jax Desmond "Secret Agent Double-Oh Nobody" and his claims to Mexico's president Phillipe Calderon... here is a link to a translated page:

http://babelfish.yahoo.com/translate_url?doit=done&tt=url&intl=1&fr=slv&lp=xx_en&trurl=http%3A%2F%2Fsemanal.milenio.com%2Fnode%2F15 56

It is roughly translated using Babelfish so it isn't perfect but you should get the general gist of things from it.... enjoy (try not to laugh too hard)

Regards,

IPSSC

WOW. I see a toe tag in this man's future.

[JFR0311]

Jax isn't alone out there. There seems to be a lot of BS pmcs out there these days. I guess everyone is trying to be a "cool guy". The internet is filled with companies started by one tour wonders. Whatever happened to people doing their due diligence on these companies. Their should be a thread dedicated to call out pmcs who post fraudulent stuff on their website. The internet is a great thing, you can check website content via Google. You wouldn't believe how many people copy their content from other sites.

[Blackjack78]

Jax isn't alone out there. There seems to be a lot of BS pmcs out there these days. I guess everyone is trying to be a "cool guy". The internet is filled with companies started by one tour wonders. Whatever happened to people doing their due diligence on these companies. Their should be a thread dedicated to call out pmcs who post fraudulent stuff on their website. The internet is a great thing, you can check website content via Google. You wouldn't believe how many people copy their content from other sites.

True bro but they didn't come here and flex lol

[JFR0311]

You are right about that Blackjack. This forum has now become a posers worst nightmare. Posers beware!!! LOL!!!

[Believeraz]

This thread had me thinking about the number of people I've seen over the past few years who spent some time (and earned a bit of capital) in the sandbox, and decided that with their myopic view of a niche sliver of the industry, with the experience of one small cog in the machine, that they should hang a shingle to provide high risk services.

[Massgrunt]

This thread had me thinking about the number of people I've seen over the past few years who spent some time (and earned a bit of capital) in the sandbox, and decided that with their myopic view of a niche sliver of the industry, with the experience of one small cog in the machine, that they should hang a shingle to provide high risk services.

All those guys now happily working on Coca-Cola's QRF...

[Silverbullet]

Edited by me.

[iraqgunz]

Don't under-estimate Coca-Colas' response to attacks by Pepsi and other antagonists. They have their place as well. :biggrin:

All those guys now happily working on Coca-Cola's QRF...

[iraqgunz]

I think the plot is so thick at this point it may well beat molasses in the thickness dept.

[sprbloggins]

Wow this is better reading than Tiger Woods and is pers issues!

[Silverbullet]

Can someone run this IP to ground for me?

67.159.44.138

It's the one used by Jax Desmond CEO" and is still being used by his sock puppets.

I've ran it to ground in Illinois but I'd like to narrow it down to a 100 meters or so.

Edited to correct location.

Thanks

[RangerJurena]

I'm actually coming up with Woodstock, Illinois? FDC Servers.net. Which has a datacenter in Chicago.

Let me try again.

[Silverbullet]

Sorry, I meant Illinois. I'm losing track of who is sending what from where. Too many clowns to keep track of.

Thanks

[Silverbullet]

Ok, a couple members sent me the actual location it is coming from.

Thanks

[HighDragLowSpeed]

Can someone run this IP to ground for me?

67.159.44.138

It's the one used by Jax Desmond CEO" and is still being used by his sock puppets.

I've ran it to ground in Illinois but I'd like to narrow it down to a 100 meters or so.

Edited to correct location.

Thanks



Woodstock, IL but, based on the expired cert for that IP, it appears to just be a proxy for hidemyass(dot)com.

PM inbound.

[Silverbullet]

Yeah it's a proxy but we think we have the proxy provider and their abuse hotline number.

We may not have real names for his sock puppet but "Jax Desmond CEO" sent one copy of his email from that IP.

[kilo42]

IP Trace:
Traceroute has started… (BTW trace started from Philippines)

traceroute to 67.159.44.138 (67.159.44.138), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 172.16.1.1 (172.16.1.1) 4.499 ms 0.971 ms 0.875 ms
2 192.168.2.10 (192.168.2.10) 1.184 ms 1.379 ms 2.046 ms
3 122.55.48.145.pldt.net (122.55.48.145) 1.764 ms 2.027 ms 1.504 ms
4 119.92.128.77.static.pldt.net (119.92.128.77) 104.991 ms 86.907 ms 81.785 ms
5 58.71.0.96 (58.71.0.96) 87.772 ms 74.429 ms 83.820 ms
6 if-15-0.mcore3.laa-losangeles.as6453.net (216.6.84.25) 610.741 ms 230.832 ms 382.184 ms
7 if-10-0-0-1152.mcore5.laa-losangeles.as6453.net (209.58.33.49) 222.350 ms 697.404 ms 279.194 ms
8 if-15-0-0-933.mcore3.pdi-paloalto.as6453.net (216.6.29.85) 642.321 ms 231.292 ms 255.580 ms
9 if-0-0-0.core1.ddv-denver.as6453.net (216.6.29.26) 433.225 ms * 553.056 ms
10 * if-1-0-0.core1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (66.110.27.5) 503.904 ms *
11 vlan1267.icore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (66.110.27.46) 527.664 ms 612.294 ms 614.132 ms
12 (66.90.127.229) 614.316 ms 613.380 ms 66.90.127.221 (66.90.127.221) 613.927 ms
13 66.90.127.177 (66.90.127.177) 460.697 ms 456.473 ms *
14 (67.159.44.138) 372.539 ms 463.020 ms 614.160 ms



Who owns that IP is listed below, it's a server farm & up/down link in Chicago, as far as I know that's denoted by the "VLAN" in item 11 above.

Whois has started…


OrgName: FDCservers.net
OrgID: FDCSE
Address: 141 w jackson blvd.
Address: suite #1135
City: Chicago
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 60098
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.fdcservers.net:4321

NetRange: 67.159.0.0 - 67.159.63.255
CIDR: 67.159.0.0/18
NetName: FDCSERVERS
NetHandle: NET-67-159-0-0-1
Parent: NET-67-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS3.FDCSERVERS.NET
NameServer: NS4.FDCSERVERS.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2004-10-12
Updated: 2006-12-27

OrgAbuseHandle: ABUSE438-ARIN
OrgAbuseName: ABUSE department
OrgAbusePhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgAbuseEmail: abuse@fdcservers.net

OrgNOCHandle: NOC1402-ARIN
OrgNOCName: Network Operations Center
OrgNOCPhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgNOCEmail: NOC@fdcservers.net

OrgTechHandle: TECHS72-ARIN
OrgTechName: Tech Support
OrgTechPhone: +1-630-729-0228
OrgTechEmail: support@fdcservers.net

# ARIN WHOIS database, last updated 2009-12-14 20:00
# Enter ? for additional hints on searching ARIN's WHOIS database.

Location of the end IP address:

+35° 47' 52.80", -91° 38' 57.12"

Which comes out to be Batesville, AR.

Source for the L/L: http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

[Blackjack78]

IP Trace:
Traceroute has started… (BTW trace started from Philippines)

traceroute to 67.159.44.138 (67.159.44.138), 64 hops max, 52 byte packets
1 172.16.1.1 (172.16.1.1) 4.499 ms 0.971 ms 0.875 ms
2 192.168.2.10 (192.168.2.10) 1.184 ms 1.379 ms 2.046 ms
3 122.55.48.145.pldt.net (122.55.48.145) 1.764 ms 2.027 ms 1.504 ms
4 119.92.128.77.static.pldt.net (119.92.128.77) 104.991 ms 86.907 ms 81.785 ms
5 58.71.0.96 (58.71.0.96) 87.772 ms 74.429 ms 83.820 ms
6 if-15-0.mcore3.laa-losangeles.as6453.net (216.6.84.25) 610.741 ms 230.832 ms 382.184 ms
7 if-10-0-0-1152.mcore5.laa-losangeles.as6453.net (209.58.33.49) 222.350 ms 697.404 ms 279.194 ms
8 if-15-0-0-933.mcore3.pdi-paloalto.as6453.net (216.6.29.85) 642.321 ms 231.292 ms 255.580 ms
9 if-0-0-0.core1.ddv-denver.as6453.net (216.6.29.26) 433.225 ms * 553.056 ms
10 * if-1-0-0.core1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (66.110.27.5) 503.904 ms *
11 vlan1267.icore1.ct8-chicago.as6453.net (66.110.27.46) 527.664 ms 612.294 ms 614.132 ms
12 (66.90.127.229) 614.316 ms 613.380 ms 66.90.127.221 (66.90.127.221) 613.927 ms
13 66.90.127.177 (66.90.127.177) 460.697 ms 456.473 ms *
14 (67.159.44.138) 372.539 ms 463.020 ms 614.160 ms



Who owns that IP is listed below, it's a server farm & up/down link in Chicago, as far as I know that's denoted by the "VLAN" in item 11 above.

Whois has started…


OrgName: FDCservers.net
OrgID: FDCSE
Address: 141 w jackson blvd.
Address: suite #1135
City: Chicago
StateProv: IL
PostalCode: 60098
Country: US

ReferralServer: rwhois://rwhois.fdcservers.net:4321

NetRange: 67.159.0.0 - 67.159.63.255
CIDR: 67.159.0.0/18
NetName: FDCSERVERS
NetHandle: NET-67-159-0-0-1
Parent: NET-67-0-0-0-0
NetType: Direct Allocation
NameServer: NS3.FDCSERVERS.NET
NameServer: NS4.FDCSERVERS.NET
Comment:
RegDate: 2004-10-12
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Location of the end IP address:

+35° 47' 52.80", -91° 38' 57.12"

Which comes out to be Batesville, AR.

Source for the L/L: http://www.geobytes.com/IpLocator.htm?GetLocation

Welcome. With work like that be careful ole Jax Bond doesn't try to recruit you to fly for him lol

[MakoZeroSix]

Apparently, tales of Jax's adventures have spread far and wide:

[Jimbo]

Apparently, tales of Jax's adventures have spread far and wide:

Win!

[Silverbullet]

IPSSC,

But and this is a big but-

It appears to me and the people I asked to check you out that Jax and his crew were accepted since no one else would sign up for the crse. I'm also seeing signs of no EP work of any note performed by your company.

Now it appears that Jax Desmond, or the person pretending to be him in Arkansas, wants to weigh in and states he actually resigned from your org and there's am email trail to back this up.



OK. IPSSC has sent a detailed explanation and I accept it as accurate. The numbers in the crse changed due to venue issue and some other logistics issues as well. He admits his company is small and trying to grow.

He also cleared up the claims by jax and his sock puppet on how the dismissal went down. Jax did indeed send an email stating that he didn't want to be in the group/association anymore but it was after IPSSC had launched him. The paperwork supports this. I can only assume that is the same way jax does it when a chick rejects him.

I've also received a number of references to some UK military discussion group in which IPSSC's background is discussed. To be honest, I don't care what his background is and it's not relevant since he did not come here representing himself as former SF or anything highspeed. I don't care what some former RAF dudes say about it on another board either.

My comments in the earlier post are withdrawn and I will edit it to reflect that.

Thanks

[HKUSP45]

I can only assume that is the same way jax does it when a chick rejects him.

Exactly. It's the reverse of George Costanza's "it's not you, it's me".

HK

[tangodown]

I guess Jax Desmond is not needed in Mexico anymore, it seems the Mexican Government can take care of themselves.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091217/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

Beltran Levya was one of five brothers who split from the Sinaloa Cartel several years ago and aligned themselves with Los Zetas, a group of former soldiers hired by the rival Gulf Cartel as hit men. The split is believed to have fueled much of the bloodshed of recent years


Jax your Worldwide organization looks as if you don't have a job in Mexico anymore..:eek:

While i'm not sure what forces took this guy down, maybe Fuerzas Especiales well done!!!!!

[Louis]

[QUOTE=tangodown;1237343]I guess Jax Desmond is not needed in Mexico anymore, it seems the Mexican Government can take care of themselves.

Jax your Worldwide organization looks as if you don't have a job in Mexico anymore..:eek:
QUOTE]


Never fear when jax is near. I dont think he is too worried about his job in Mexico cos he can always go and sort Somalia's problems out for them :p

[Outofcontrol]

I guess Jax Desmond is not needed in Mexico anymore, it seems the Mexican Government can take care of themselves.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091217/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

Beltran Levya was one of five brothers who split from the Sinaloa Cartel several years ago and aligned themselves with Los Zetas, a group of former soldiers hired by the rival Gulf Cartel as hit men. The split is believed to have fueled much of the bloodshed of recent years


Jax your Worldwide organization looks as if you don't have a job in Mexico anymore..:eek:

While i'm not sure what forces took this guy down, maybe Fuerzas Especiales well done!!!!!

Good on 'em.

Interesting that it was the Navy that was sent in. Just outside of MC...ain't no water close by...AND in a high rise apartment

I have no idea the Mexican Navy's capabilities...but land based, high rise assaults was a bit...unexpected.

OOC, out

[kilo42]

Jax your Worldwide organization looks as if you don't have a job in Mexico anymore..

I guess he didn't get it because he didn't have a "world wide office" in Mexico City.

[SOTB]

I have no idea the Mexican Navy's capabilities...but land based, high rise assaults was a bit...unexpected....Only to people that don't regularly read Mexican newspapers or watch Mexican TV. The Navy has their own intel section and often operates independently from the SEDENA (Army/Air Force)....

[Chief Lobo]

Calderon must have said that if you want something done right you have to do it yourself and "don't Jax me Bro".

[Outofcontrol]

Roger that! Thanks SOTB.

OOC, out

[IPSSC]

These seem to be some of the main players for Jax Desmond Worldwide. You have to love the internet, some things just never die.
Sascha Forst

Tylor Cadger Swain
Shane Chamberlain and lets not forget Mr. Jax Desmond who maybe living with his girlfriend Jenina and her son Damon, who have a cat named Molly. No shit this was on a deleted page I had found. Along with a photo of whom I guess is Mr. Desmond. All the office's that they have used are Mail Box Drops. As one of the other members has point out, JDW is a register UK Company with www.companieshouse.gov.uk (http://www.companieshouse.gov.uk) . With Mail Box Etc. at Victoria London. The other odd thing is the guy is 26 or 27 years old.:biggrin:

It turns out the the picture in this notice was taken at the hotel in North Dakota where (*cough* 'Oh! The shame!!) ran the course that JD attended - I must have left the room to visit the bathroom or something because he never took photos during my lectures and I remember the decor in the hotel conference room used for the classroom lectures delivered during the course. This poser also apparently staged other photos during points where I left the room for some reason or another - apparently he had planned to get as many staged photo opportunities as he could.

[Mudboy]

I must say this is the best entertainment I have had in a long time. Better than watching Christmas movies on AFN all day!! Please direct me to similar threads, where these posers have been owned in the past?

[The Fat Guy]

I guess Jax Desmond is not needed in Mexico anymore, it seems the Mexican Government can take care of themselves.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091217/ap_on_re_la_am_ca/lt_drug_war_mexico

Beltran Levya was one of five brothers who split from the Sinaloa Cartel several years ago and aligned themselves with Los Zetas, a group of former soldiers hired by the rival Gulf Cartel as hit men. The split is believed to have fueled much of the bloodshed of recent years


Jax your Worldwide organization looks as if you don't have a job in Mexico anymore..:eek:

While i'm not sure what forces took this guy down, maybe Fuerzas Especiales well done!!!!!

Do you non- jax believers not understand their ability to culturally adapt? It was a jax crew posed as Mexican Marines that killed Leyva.

[The Fat Guy]

Apparently, tales of Jax's adventures have spread far and wide:

Once again Mako, you make my day. Your Fotoshop Fu is Strong

[IPSSC]

Jax Desmond openly admits to running an office out of the UK offering close protection services - it is illegal for anyone to provide said services in the UK without the requisite Security Industry Authority license - in fact doing so carries up to a 5,000 UK Pounds fine (about $8000 US) and a possible prison term for each offense. As of today, Jax Desmond has been reported to the UK SIA (http://www.the-sia.org.uk (http://www.the-sia.org.uk/)) using their online reporting form (found under the "enforcement" tab.

Now working on a report the the respective IRS agencies for UK, USA and Canada re the $100 Million per year that Jax Desmond's company reportedly brings in - as a concerned citizen, I want to ensure that a large corporation such as Desmond's lot is paying their fair share of taxes.

Also working on a report to the New York Dept. of Labor and Economic Growth re his business practices and operating without a security license in the State of New York (he is either a close protection services provider or he is not... he can't have it both ways)

Also working on having him added to the US Govt "Denied Persons" list.

Also filing a report in a day or so with the FBI regarding his recent threatening e-mails and ongoing online harassment (interstate stalking).

Anyone else got any suggestions??

I am open to ideas...

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all...

[IPSSC]

The piss port excuse they gave me was that I wasn't doing my job well enough but I know its because I was on here. A friend told me a memo got sent out today telling people not to come on this website and not to comment on anything and it was apparently blocked from all the servers.

Here is the info on "all of Jax Desmond's Servers"...

Registrar: TUCOWS INC.
Status: clientTransferProhibited
Dates: Created 03-jul-2008 Updated 05-may-2009 Expires 03-jul-2010
DNS Servers: NS1.HOSTPAPA.COM NS2.HOSTPAPA.COM

I was referred to whois.tucows.com; I'm looking it up there.


Registrant:
HostPapa
115 George St.
Suite 511
Oakville, ON L6J0A2
CA

Domain name: JAXDESMOND.COM


Administrative Contact:
Master, Host *******@hostpapasupport.com
115 George St.
Suite 511
Oakville, ON L6J0A2
CA
+1.8889597272 Fax: +1.8889597272

Technical Contact:
Master, Host *******@hostpapasupport.com
115 George St
Suite 511
Oakville, ON L6J 0A2
CA
+1.8889597272 Fax: +1.9058151172



Registration Service Provider:
HostPapa Inc, *******@hostpapasupport.com
888-959-7272



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Record expires on 03-Jul-2010.
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NS1.HOSTPAPA.COM


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[IPSSC]

Jax Desmond Worldwide, the video:
http://www.vantagestudios.ca/clients/jax/

Its all stock footage with no clearly identifiable Jax Desmond Worldwide personnel, but amusing nonetheless.

(I've downloaded a copy, in case it gets taken down.)

I just viewed the video clip and the video bears the "iStock Video" logo over the clips indicating that he stole copyright material that would have cost him a mere $35 to use if he went the right way about it. Just added copyright theft to the list of to-do's on this clown. Incidentally, iStock have already been sent the link and a note reporting his copyright infringement.

[8Ball]

I just viewed the video clip and the video bears the "iStock Video" logo over the clips indicating that he stole copyright material that would have cost him a mere $35 to use if he went the right way about it. Just added copyright theft to the list of to-do's on this clown. Incidentally, iStock have already been sent the link and a note reporting his copyright infringement.

Dude, You have had a very busy Holiday Season!:tongue:

[Hoepoe]

Jax Desmond openly admits to running an office out of the UK offering close protection services - it is illegal for anyone to provide said services in the UK without the requisite Security Industry Authority license - in fact doing so carries up to a 5,000 UK Pounds fine (about $8000 US) and a possible prison term for each offense. As of today, Jax Desmond has been reported to the UK SIA (http://www.the-sia.org.uk (http://www.the-sia.org.uk/)) using their online reporting form (found under the "enforcement" tab.

Now working on a report the the respective IRS agencies for UK, USA and Canada re the $100 Million per year that Jax Desmond's company reportedly brings in - as a concerned citizen, I want to ensure that a large corporation such as Desmond's lot is paying their fair share of taxes.

Also working on a report to the New York Dept. of Labor and Economic Growth re his business practices and operating without a security license in the State of New York (he is either a close protection services provider or he is not... he can't have it both ways)

Also working on having him added to the US Govt "Denied Persons" list.

Also filing a report in a day or so with the FBI regarding his recent threatening e-mails and ongoing online harassment (interstate stalking).

Anyone else got any suggestions??

I am open to ideas...

Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year to you all...

I have no dog in this, but the above seems a tad extreme...

H

[SOTB]

....the above seems a tad extreme....Not at all....

[8Ball]

Not at all....

I agree.
With the monumental level of his Jackassery, anything is fair game. He opened his cock holster first...
Stepping on his dick doesn't even begin to describe his situation.

[IPSSC]

Dude, You have had a very busy Holiday Season!:tongue:

The son-of-a-biatch sent me a threatening e-mail recently stating that if I did not cease and desist "trying to F**k with him that he would make it his newest hobby in destroying my reputation" after I sent him an e-mail profeesionally instructing him to stop claiming to be affiliated with my organization.
He then posted a bunch of lies and BS while trying to name me as a conman and a fraud (which I am most certainly not) to a website that is used by millions of people with genuine concerns, the policy of that particular site being to never remove any report listed by anyone and to add to the mix the TW@T added my home address and wife's financial details which he claimed to have hired a PI to obtain (Gramm Leach Blilley Act infringement?).
I am a small business owner in the security industry trying to grow... nothing more. Most of my working life has included UK military service (Ground Crew on an Support Heli unit for 8 years) and in the civilian security industry. I am merely trying to support my family using the skills and quals I have picked up over the last 2 decades... nothing more.

This piss ant claims he plays in the big boys sand pit when really he is just a dreamer with an ability to create illusions - the tw@t should be a politician... he lies for a living just like they do.

Either way, because of this w@nker my home address is now online on a site which also bears photos he leeched from my Facebook site (my stupid assed mistake on that one) in order to make me look like a c(o)unt.
End result... it's open season on Jaxxy boy!

[bobofthedesert]

It's open season on Jaxxy boy!

So, he lives in Winnipeg, huh? ;)

[IPSSC]

So, he lives in Winnipeg, huh? ;)

He most certainly does

[bobofthedesert]

He most certainly does

Email with this thread sent to the Manitoba Attorney General, (among others) whom regulates the Private Security industry in that province.....

The private security industry in any given Canadian city is usually a pretty small scene, everyone knows everyone and all that.....

"Souhaitez-vous des frites avec ça?"

[Hoepoe]

Not at all....

Reread all posts and Indeed, after threats are sent, it's all fair.

there are few things that would be too harsh.

H

[HighDragLowSpeed]

He then posted a bunch of lies and BS while trying to name me as a conman and a fraud (which I am most certainly not) to a website that is used by millions of people with genuine concerns, the policy of that particular site being to never remove any report listed by anyone and to add to the mix the TW@T added my home address and wife's financial details which he claimed to have hired a PI to obtain (Gramm Leach Blilley Act infringement?).

Post a modified link to the specific entry that he posted. Add an extra space to the link after "http".

Example:

http ://www.link.com/to/the/post.htm

[kilo42]

So I wonder if JAX is involved in this since it's full of false / empty companies as well...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/ap_on_re_as/as_thailand_weapons

[IPSSC]

So I wonder if JAX is involved in this since it's full of false / empty companies as well...

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20091225/ap_on_re_as/as_thailand_weapons

I doubt Jax had anything to do with those guys however, one of my contacts just sent me this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoUtRgjSQ1s (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yoUtRgjSQ1s)

It is a CNN News report in Mexico (in Spanish) about Jax Desmond and his "fight" against narco-terrorism and Los Zetas....

[SOTB]

It is a CNN News report in Mexico (in Spanish) about Jax Desmond and his "fight" against narco-terrorism and Los Zetas....Hey "Jax", remember the "Splash" post awhile back? Welcome to the adult world, stud.

BTW, just for shits and grins -- you should know that this was a marking round. If you don't know what that means, maybe you should ask one of those specops dudes you claim to have working for you....

[Starlight]

It is a CNN News report in Mexico (in Spanish) about Jax Desmond and his "fight" against narco-terrorism and Los Zetas....

My Spanish isn't that good, and I tend to miss a lot of nuances in foreign languages, but were those guys making fun of Jax as well?

[SOTB]

....but were those guys making fun of Jax as well?Not at all. They were discussing this in serious manner. But yes, they were discussing the HQ address being a UPS office, "Jax" being nothing more than a "broker" of services, etc....

[Starlight]

Got it, thanks.

[IPSSC]

Gentlemen (and Ladies?)...

Thank you very much for allowing me the opportunity to be a member of your site. With regards to posting about one Jax Desmond of Jax Desmond Worldwide, please note that as of today, I will be unable to furnish any further information or respond to any post concerning this individual.
This is not because I agree with the individual in any way... I simply do not. My feelings on this individual are exactly the same as those shared by many on this site who know him for what he really is.

Unfortunately however, after recent events involving another site, I have now had to involve law enforcement agencies from both the US and Canada as Jax Desmond is now engaged in a campaign of online harassment against me and me family. He is using a site known as the RipOffReport . com website to try to defame me as a means of retribution for my involvement on this and other sites where he has been outed as a fraud. His reports on me are completely false. He has now resorted to posting private information about my wife and child and has created a very serious security concern for my family. His reason for posting to the cosen site is simply because of his knowledge that no matter how much evidence is used to prove that his report is completely false and no matter how many legal actions are taken against the site in question, the information posted (which includes personal information such as my wife's name, my home address, my wife's earnings, the value of our home, etc.) will NEVER be removed. His ongoing harassment of me on the site is being investigated by law enforcement and in order for me to successfully obtain legal action against him, I must maintain a zero contact policy from this point forward.

I would like to maintain my account with your group if at all possible as there is much that I and my small but growing firm can learn and benefit from you. I will not respond to any comments made by Jax Desmond or anyone who appears to be a supporter of his company but will continue to participate in this site if I have anything of value to add.

Once again, thank you for accepting me as a member of your site.

Sincerely & Respectfully Yours,
IPSSC

[Lepard]

IPSSC. As you know I have been following this thread for a few days and have now joined as a result. I have checked you out from this side of the pond and can verify that while one or two mistakes have been made on your part ( We're all human ) You have made no false claims with regard to service history and that you appear to have a good case for deformation of character against Jax. I should add, that from what I have read, most of your ex RAF muckers remember you as being an 'honest' and like-able bloke they who wish you well in you business.

On this site and another two I could mention, Jax has made positive references to the IBA along with another guy called Bermudez, (Bermudez allegedly also makes claims of military heroism)
Can anyone shed light on the highlighted connections ? eg why he refers to the IBA as if he has an allegiance.
Jax's actions so far have a very familiar ring to them. If I'm right I'll be making a very interesting contribution soon.

[Lepard]

OK, I was now have clearance to to post this. This may be a long post, sorry. It could have died a natural death days ago but for Jax Desmonds behavior.

A couple points:

1. This thread was not even that critical when the Jax Desmond PR person sent his threatening email. In fact, my post just prior to that had offered up the option of Jax Desmond providing someone to clear up the question.

2. I really hadn't given the thread much thought, other than to check ensure no one was posting out of bounds, and to add my one post that was based on experience in the real world when Jax Desmond decided to elevate the issue.

3. During the years of being a Mod and now an Admin, I've learned that the GTG companies don't send out a threatening email as their first response. They especially don't send said email that fails to list even one point they think is wrong. They reach out through people in the industry, who are members here, to make contact with me or one of the other vetted members in order to resolve the issue.

4. We have a reputation for putting out the real word and helping our brothers both military and LE. We aren't going to stop now. No one goes looking for companies like Jax Desmond. In fact it was Jax Desmonds web presence and stupid email that got the ball rolling.

5. In closing, Mr Jax Desmond has obviously underestimated me and the rest of you. Not only is this email arrogant, it's stupid. I can only assume he is so stupid he thinks I'm some broke dick old retiree living on a PFC's salary. That is exactly what I would expect from someone who has never been where the rubber meets the road and never will be.

I have never responded well to threats and I'm not going to start now. Your actions have ensured this thread will live on forever.

Dear Administrator:

I've been advised about the postings you've written about my organization and I'm not impressed.

I know that a letter was sent advising you to cease and desist and I understand your response was that personal opinion is protected by the first amendment.

You're absolutely right.

What isn't protected though is my right to sue you. A very costly and time consuming practice that has previously resulted in some people with lower to mid level incomes having to file bankruptcy, lose property and assets, suffer heart attacks and strokes due to stress, and in some cases, even concede because the amount they're being sued for is far exceeded by the amount they would otherwise lose in legal costs and attorney fees.

While I may not win when it comes to libel or defamation of character, I think both of us can agree that you don't have the funds to be tied up in court for the next few years.

I've spoken with my legal team and if you do not cease and desist within 24 hours of receiving this notice, I will ensure you stayed tied up in court until the time comes that your grandchildren are still paying your debt.

If you think for a second that I'm not serious then I urge you to test me.

If you delete all the comments and all of the posts from your website and server within 24 hours and don't repost them then I'll consider this little matter forgiven and forgotten.

I take my firms reputation and mine very seriously, and I don't take kindly to retirees trying to slander my good name from behind a computer.

Quite honestly, I hope you continue this little side-show of yours. It would be a pleasure to meet you in person.

I hope you have a lovely day.

Very truly yours,

Jax Desmond
Chairman and Chief Executive Officer

Jax Desmond Worldwide

This is a copy of a threat made to another web site originating from the head office of Jax's highly respected IBA. Spot the similarity :biggrin:
The rest as they say, is history:smile:
Quote:This is an initial courtesy email to make you aware of legal action that is being taken against forums in the UK (including www.Arrse.com) and Ireland and one personal website in the United States of America. . Through out the thread correspondents have quoted as facts defamatory remarks made anonymously in the forums mentioned and have added their own defamatory remarks as you will note. Repeating a defamatory article or post without checking the absolute veracity of the remarks is in itself a defamation. A person from the Arrse forum identifying himself as 'gas,gas,gas' has continually defamed the International Bodyguard Association and myself in that forum. This person has reproduced our copyright photographs of myself from various IBA sites in Europe and USA added defamatory remarks such as walt representing on the 'arrse' site as Walt(er) mitty. These Photos of me (one) is from a medal presentation by the Defnce Ministry in the Balkan Region, (two) from a ceremony at Budapest Castle, Hungary and (three) from a reception at The House of Lords (British Parliament)
As the person defamed by this I ask an urgent and immediate review of the contents of this page. www.walt-watch.50webs....shortt.htm
The correct course of action is to remove this site and its' defamatory postings.
Many of the correspondents have been identified and will be contacted individually.These include an individual XXXX XXXXX of San Diego, California. Mr XXXXX has authored a page of defamation and malicious falsehood. He has linked this page hosted by you to his defamatory website made entries on his pages directing people to your site and to his postings on the Arrse website.. Mr XXXX is now the subject of an action by myself and my legal representatives.

[FUJDW]

I want to make something clear right off the hop. I am not a supporter of jax desmond or his "company". I do have experience working with him. I will be writing a large entry here with everything I have on him. And know about him.
I will be posting first hand experiences and his unprofessionalism in the field. I also have pictures of this fool. Which I retain the rights to and may use as I see fit.
I'm sick of him getting away with all the bs he's been pulling and he needs to be brought to his knees.
I confirm that my entry later today is 100% accurate. And I will stand by it. IPSSC, I am saddened to see him do this stuff to you. Fire with fire will be my goal. Not on your behalf, but on my own.

[Silverbullet]

You need to post an introduction post in the appropriate area before posting again.

Thanks

[Lepard]

Jax, the international man of mystery and owner of a $191 million a year Private Military Contracting firm was recently sued by some former independent contractors that worked for him on a very small subcontract deal he had where he had to provide security coverage (and I use the term loosely) at a country music festival in Winnipeg, Canada - he was sued for not paying them the $15 or so an hour for the one-day gig so I guess his $191 million budget didn't stretch very far.


Document Details http://www.jus.gov.mb.ca/
(SC08-01-11732 BOWMAN, ASHLEY vs DESMOND, JAX)

Details of document #1: SMALL CLAIM - SERVICES RENDERED

Party Name For/Against Amount Cost
BOWMAN, ASHLEY For 0.00 0.00
MACKENZIE, JENNIFER For 0.00 0.00
DEWAR, RANDI For 0.00 0.00
CURRELL, TYLER For 0.00 0.00
DESMOND, JAX Against 2,140.00 0.00

Document Details
(SC08-01-11732 BOWMAN, ASHLEY vs DESMOND, JAX)



Details of document #3: CERTIFICATE OF DECISION ON DEFAULT (S/C)

Party Name Appeared For/Against/Dismissed Amount Cost Interest Disbursement Liability
JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD, Failed to Appear Claim Against 864.00 50.00 0.00 30.00 NA
CURRELL, TYLER In Person Claim For 0.00 0.00 0.00 NA NA
DESMOND, JAX Failed to Appear Claim Against 864.00 50.00 0.00 30.00 NA
JAX DESMOND WORLDWIDE LTD, Failed to Appear NA 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 NA

Document Details
(SC08-01-11732 BOWMAN, ASHLEY vs DESMOND, JAX)



Details of document #4: CERTIFICATE OF DECISION ON DEFAULT (S/C)

Party Name Appeared For/Against/Dismissed Amount Cost Interest Disbursement Liability
MACKENZIE, JENNIFER In Person Claim For 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 NA
BOWMAN, ASHLEY In Person Claim For 0.00 0.00 0.00 0.00 NA
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[Mudboy]

For some reason, "circling the drain" seems like an understatement, it is more like I am hearing the sound of the water, when the tub is draining and is almost empty!!

[Lepard]

For some reason, "circling the drain" seems like an understatement, it is more like I am hearing the sound of the water, when the tub is draining and is almost empty!!

I just had to look that one up:redface:
Circling the drain:
Term used in medical circles to describe a patient for whom death is impending and yet continues to cling to life.
(Metaphorically speaking, I think it's quite apt)

[Delcineo]

Makes me think he must have seen the movie 'Austin Powers, International Man of Mystery' one too many times..........

I knew of a guy once who had CIA business cards made up to help him pick up chicks in bars and hopefully get laid. He wasn't very successful (or bright) either.....