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FNG
2 October 2001, 10:19
Eggleton strikes back at critics of Defence
Rooted in 'old-think'


John Ward
The Canadian Press

The Canadian Press


A war on terror won't likely involve massed conventional armies, argues Art Eggleton, Minister of Defence.


OTTAWA - Art Eggleton, the Minister of National Defence, has produced an open letter defending government policy on the military and accusing critics of living in the past.

The federal government has been sharply criticized in recent days for leaving the cash-strapped Canadian Forces unprepared to tackle a global war on terrorism.

Last week, the Conference of Defence Associations, an umbrella group representing dozens of defence-oriented groups, issued a scathing report on the state of Canada's defence.

"The low level of collective training, the unsatisfactory state of some weapons and equipment and the lack of logistics support would make engagement in combat operations problematic without resolving those shortfalls," the report said.

It was that document, along with other criticisms voiced recently that prompted Mr. Eggleton, who normally shrugs off critics, to write an opinion piece that was distributed yesterday to various media.

"I just want to deal with the issues that came out of the CDA report," the Minister said yesterday. "I think we have to understand it in context."

He said many of the points the conference made were valid, but he wanted to address some that were not.

In the opinion piece, Mr. Eggleton said: "I have been somewhat troubled by what I have read and heard. A good portion of the discourse in Canada appears to be rooted in 'old-think.' And history has shown repeatedly that one of the most serious errors a military can make is to prepare for the last war."

He said a war on terror will be long and tough. It's unlikely to involve massed conventional armies.

If it does involve military action, he said, Canada can help.

"I want to assure Canadians that the Canadian Forces are ready and able to make a meaningful contribution -- if that is what we decide to do as a country.

"While the Canadian Forces' combat capabilities have been much criticized in recent days, this criticism has lacked balance."

As he has done repeatedly since the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Eggleton said the Forces has modern CF-18 fighter-bombers and other high-tech gear such as Coyote reconnaissance vehicles and new, light armoured vehicles.

He said the government has a national counter-terrorism plan and the Forces have a highly trained counter-terrorism unit called JTF2. This secretive unit, thought to include about 250 soldiers, is based at Dwyer Hill, Ont., just outside Ottawa. It is practised in hostage-rescue.

"We also have effective intelligence capabilities," he said.

Although critics, including the CDA and the Canadian Alliance have demanded big cash injections to the $11.2-billion defence budget, Mr. Eggleton preached caution. The government has put $3 billion into defence in recent years, he said, but more money may be hard to find.

He added, though, that the government is prepared to fight terrorism: "We will do what is necessary to safeguard the safety and security of Canadians."

Leon Benoit, the Canadian Alliance defence critic, was not impressed by Mr. Eggleton's pledge to defend Canadians. "They don't seem to take that responsibility very seriously when it comes to national defence," he said.

Cree Warrior
2 October 2001, 12:23
Hmmmmm? Training to fight the last war...?
OUR WHOLE Military is centred around training for the last war; from out PT standard, to our clothing, to all aspects of our doctrine. Why it is when we train defensively, we ONLY do two up one back? When we do MTSC's, two up one back? Never, not even once do we even discuss defence from a non WW3 perspective. We'll see how much we can think outside the box now, sounds like they'll just change the box a bit to save money.
I can just imagine what would happen to our forces if we were shipped out to fight in Afghanistan. Since we're encouraged to become obese in the military, I'd like to see our puffy saggy troops trying to ruck up and down the mountains there. We'd have 90% casualties just from a 5 K movement.

At least they put John Manly in charge of this anti-terrorisms committee, he's got balls. I hope he whips Eggleton into shape.


Sua Sponte

FNG
2 October 2001, 14:32
Apparently, the word "alert" frightens people. Well, least we hurt people's feelings.

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Tim Naumetz
Victoria Times Colonist


OTTAWA -- The Canadian Forces issued conflicting signals Monday about the state of alert of the military three weeks after the terrorist attacks in the United States.

"We're not on the status of alert," Sub-Lt. Pierrette LeDrew, a Forces spokeswoman at Canadian Forces headquarters in Ottawa, said in the morning.

That appeared to be a downgrade from the "heightened state of alert" that Defence Minister Art Eggleton used to describe the military shortly after the Sept. 11 attacks.

However, later Monday another Forces spokeswoman said LeDrew had "misspoke" herself.

"The Canadian Forces remain at a heightened state of vigilance and readiness," naval Lt. Kelly Kilrea said Monday evening.

The contradictory signals came as government House leader Don Boudria said any legislation to combat terrorism will not be ready for at least two weeks, after the Commons returns from its Thanksgiving recess.

Shortly after the terrorist attacks, infantry troops in Val Cartier, Que., were put on the highest alert for providing either military or civilian assistance to the United States. As well, members of the Disaster Assistance Response Team were sent to CFB Trenton for possible deployment, but now the DART team members have returned to their bases, LeDrew said..

Despite the conflicting descriptions of Forces' readiness, Kilrea refused to use the word "alert" when describing the military's state, saying that the Defence Department had been asked not to use the word because it upset people.

She would not say who gave the instruction.

Despite the order, a spokeswoman at Norad's Canadian headquarters in Winnipeg told the Edmonton Journal that CF-18 fighter jets at Cold Lake, Alta. remained on a state of alert, as did all other bases of the joint Canada-U.S North American Aerospace Defence Command..

While the Forces continue to be "vigilant," LeDrew said there has been no sign Canadian troops, ships or aircraft will join U.S. and British forces in any action. U.S. and British ships and aircraft continue to be deployed to the Middle East as the suspected mastermind of the terrorist attacks, exiled Saudi Arabian Osama bin Laden, remains in hiding in Afghanistan.

Chretien said after meeting George W. Bush in Washington almost two weeks ago that the U.S. president did not ask Canada for military assistance, but the prime minister told CNN interviewer Larry King last weekend Ottawa is prepared to contribute militarily if asked.

LeDrew, however, suggested Canadian soldiers have been left in the dark about Chretien's plans and her comments indicated it is unlikely Canada will take part in the campaign militarily.

"There are no preparations in place right now," said LeDrew. "The simple reason for that is that we don't know if we are going to be involved, and if we do become involved, we don't know what the requirements will be, so there is not really any way to really prepare for anything. We have no information at all if we're going to be involved . . . we just have nothing, unfortunately."

The RCMP also appeared in a low-key mode Monday in contrast to the high-profile police activity in the U.S. and Britain.

A spokesman said no special task force or group devoted to the terrorist investigations has been established within the RCMP , although the Mounties have kept open a 1-800 tip line.

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garett
2 October 2001, 16:19
Well I think us troops know exactly what we're capable of.

Whats the address for US Army recruiting again?

Enfield
2 October 2001, 19:11
Here's his letter, I'm sure we can all find holes and problems in it - I started to write them all out, but it would have made a record-sized post. Two biggies are: "combined' and "joint" seem to mean that our Allies carry us there and supply us. And how exactly are submarines going to help fight terrorism? They will, however, do an exactly job of stopping the Soviet Northern Fleet of getting past Iceland.
Oh, and any bets on the chances of JTF2 hopping around Afhghanistan in Griffons??
www.dnd.ca/menu/Feature_Story/2001/02oct01_f_e.htm (http://www.dnd.ca/menu/Feature_Story/2001/02oct01_f_e.htm)

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