View Full Version : Jason Bourne....err...Matt Damon to play a Warrant Officer?
SATCOM
3 January 2010, 20:37
In this 2010 movie titled The Green Zone: http://www.hulu.com/watch/108607/movie-trailers-green-zone
Lurch
3 January 2010, 20:55
Looks like a good action movie.
But think of this when I see him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM
Stanley_White
3 January 2010, 20:57
I am stoked that Hollywood is having an action hero character be a Chief Warrant Officer.
Hot Mess
3 January 2010, 20:59
I'll pay to see it in theaters, and I never pay to see movies in a theater.
On a side note, what about this (http://www.hulu.com/watch/117182/movie-trailers-44-inch-chest#s-p1-sr-i0)? Looks like a couple of the guys from Layered Cake, could be ok.
Hot Mess
3 January 2010, 21:00
I am stoked that Hollywood is having an action hero character be a Chief Warrant Officer.
I wonder if he's a former SF guy:biggrin: I did see someone with Oakleys...
18C4V
3 January 2010, 21:37
I am stoked that Hollywood is having an action hero character be a Chief Warrant Officer.
I hope Hollywood gets it right and shows the WO writing a conop :biggrin:
TakeshiX
3 January 2010, 22:07
On a side note, what about this (http://www.hulu.com/watch/117182/movie-trailers-44-inch-chest#s-p1-sr-i0)? Looks like a couple of the guys from Layered Cake, could be ok.
I never get British movies o.O i dunno why. The humor...I just don't get it.
Doc P
4 January 2010, 07:40
It looks good as an action movie, but with a heavy conspiracy theory tone.
d375
4 January 2010, 09:10
I am stoked that Hollywood is having an action hero character be a Chief Warrant Officer.
In The Generals Daughter, Travolta is a WO. Great watch.
Massgrunt
4 January 2010, 10:02
I can't wait to not see this movie. Looks like another "the system tries to kill the lone honest man, repent America, repent" type things.
Outofcontrol
4 January 2010, 12:13
Looks like a good action movie.
But think of this when I see him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM
Yep.
OOC, out
Carpe Noctem
4 January 2010, 16:00
I want to see a flashback scene with him as a snowbird, just for shits and giggles.
(I hated that white WOC rank...)
grappler
4 January 2010, 16:12
Matt Damon goes "off the reservation" and appears to take on the entire Army in Iraq?
Gee, what will Hollywood think of next?
Alex F
4 January 2010, 16:51
Yeah, I'm not getting what I'm seeing there.
Did he shoot down a blackhawk!?
redhawk
4 January 2010, 17:41
Why is everything a big conspiracy with that guy? Bourne, Good Shepard, Syriana and now this? They should have named the movie Going Rogue.
universible
4 January 2010, 18:18
Looks like his Reindeer Games....
poison
4 January 2010, 19:10
Why is everything a big conspiracy with that guy? Bourne, Good Shepard, Syriana and now this? They should have named the movie Going Rogue.
Who cares?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FsqJFIJ5lLs&feature=related
;):biggrin:
billdawg
4 January 2010, 19:20
It looks good as an action movie, but with a heavy conspiracy theory tone.
I agree. And let's not forget, Damon is another of the 'USA is icky' crowd. ala Baldwin, Streisand, etc.
TakeshiX
4 January 2010, 19:28
I dunno I like Damon I think hes a good actor and I enjoy his movies. I liked all 3 of the Bourne films, The Departed, ect... I don't really pay attention to much to these guys person opinions. Most people get alittle weird when they start having some money. Never could fiqure it out, but then i never had any money so.... lol
poison
4 January 2010, 19:39
I agree. And let's not forget, Damon is another of the 'USA is icky' crowd. ala Baldwin, Streisand, etc.
Really? I don't see much beyond comments about Palin and a few about the lead-up to the war. Hardly anti-US sentiment. Maybe I've missed it.
Mudboy
5 January 2010, 07:09
Maybe you are thinking of his buddy, Ben Affleck? I have see him on several news shows, singing the same song as Babs, Alec Baldwin, and the liberal duo of Tim what's his name, and the Hottie with the big boobs that was in the Client, and Bull Durham?
I can't say i have ever heard Matt Damon preach politics, but maybe I just watch the right channels?:confused:
Hawkeye
5 January 2010, 08:03
I want to see a flashback scene with him as a snowbird, just for shits and giggles.
(I hated that white WOC rank...)
Amen......
and stenciling his name on every fricken piece of clothing he owns
billdawg
5 January 2010, 10:03
Maybe you are thinking of his buddy, Ben Affleck? I have see him on several news shows, singing the same song as Babs, Alec Baldwin, and the liberal duo of Tim what's his name, and the Hottie with the big boobs that was in the Client, and Bull Durham?
I can't say i have ever heard Matt Damon preach politics, but maybe I just watch the right channels?:confused:
You cannot be calling Susan Sarandon a hottie?:eek: OMG, I have always thought she was hideous, with those big, frog eyes, like she has some kind of thyroid problem. She's creepy.
On the Damon note, I remember him running his suck hole about how bad the war is, back in the early run up to it, and of course after he did 'The Good Shepard' he had to weigh in on torture, and how evil the CIA was/is. But you may be right, I may be thinking more of his friendships with the other liberal assclowns.
GTG
24 January 2010, 20:06
Please excuse me if this is misscategorized, but something in the previous posts about Damon struck a nerve.
Damon is another hollywood "foreign policy expert." He gulps Howard Zinn kool-aid from a super-sized cup without a straw.
Apparently, he also spouted off at the mouth once about how he believes that President Bush's daughters should be forced to join the military, and how men and women in the service only do it for the money etc. etc. As always the "left" knows better than all of us. Surely he is mistaken...
http://newsbusters.org/node/9690
I think his best role was in Team America.
Here is the link to a list of hollywood foreign policy experts who enjoy an extravagant lifestyle and freedoms provided by many of the individuals who are members of this website, and provide us nothing but contempt in return. With the exception of Mrs. Regan, and Mr. Heston who for some reason are on this page (for a balance?), the rest can pound sand. It is my recommendation that next time you chose to spend your money on anything that lines the pockets of these individuals, please consider some of their opinions about you, and your brethren's sacrifices.
http://www.hollywoodactivist.com/POLITICS--and--POLICY.php
HighDragLowSpeed
24 January 2010, 20:15
Damon is another hollywood "foreign policy expert." He gulps Howard Zinn kool-aid from a super-sized cup without a straw.
I think that he's earned the right to at least have an opinion seeing how he actually went to Haiti the day after the earthquake and handed out food/water brought there at his own expense.
Most Hollywood fat asses that opine as to politics don't do that or anything that might require to intermingle with the unwashed huddled masses.
What was the name of the asshat that went to Iraq right before the war and came back with some bullshit that he still spouts? I give M.D. credit for going to Haiti, but I don't use it to lend credit to some of the things he says.
HighDragLowSpeed
24 January 2010, 20:23
What was the name of the asshat that went to Iraq right before the war and came back with some bullshit that he still spouts? I give M.D. credit for going to Haiti, but I don't use it to lend credit to some of the things he says.
Understood...but I guess that I'm not of the opinion that everyone has to agree with me :tongue:
Stanley_White
24 January 2010, 20:32
he believes that President Bush's daughters should be forced to join the military
In my perfect world if you are an Elected or Politically Appointed official (Plum Book etc) in the Federal Government you would be required to have a child in the armed forces.
Folks in the beltway would think differently if their own kids were walking point.
Just sayin'...
Gryfen-FL
24 January 2010, 20:36
you are an Elected or Politically Appointed official (Plum Book etc) in the Federal Government you would be required to have a child in the armed forces.
I dunno....
...if some of the behavior I've seen in the press is any indication, maybe we're better off without them.
Just sayin'...:biggrin:
Does anyone know if he's pro-gun? He's smokin hot and I'd be willing to let a bit of hollyweird sillyness slide if he has guns.
Edit....
Damn, just googled it.
Dirtpuppy
24 January 2010, 20:49
What was the name of the asshat that went to Iraq right before the war and came back with some bullshit that he still spouts? I give M.D. credit for going to Haiti, but I don't use it to lend credit to some of the things he says.
Sean Penn?
Sigaba
24 January 2010, 21:31
You cannot be calling Susan Sarandon a hottie?:eek: OMG, I have always thought she was hideous, with those big, frog eyes, like she has some kind of thyroid problem. She's creepy.Billdawg--
What did frogs ever do to you to merit such an unflattering comparison?:confused:
chubbs88
24 January 2010, 21:50
I don't understand. If all these people hate the US or are against its policies why don't they get out? I hear Canada is nice this time of the year.
chubbs88
24 January 2010, 21:52
I don't see why Hollywood comments on these things if they aren't even gonna try to do anything about it.
JD Bobcat
24 January 2010, 21:53
What was the name of the asshat that went to Iraq right before the war and came back with some bullshit that he still spouts? I give M.D. credit for going to Haiti, but I don't use it to lend credit to some of the things he says.
Sean Penn is the Assclown in Chief ..... he an Danny Glover luv lickin' Chavez' taint ..... and he and Charlie Sheen see conspiracy everywere .. unless they're beatin' the wifey ..
Matt Damon and other liberal hollywood elitest are in 'damage control' lately after the recent upset in Mass; Damons backyard .. lol ..
.. afraid the shift in politico may affect them at the box office ....
CarnageWhiskey
24 January 2010, 22:22
Now that I think about it, Saving Private Ryan is the only Matt Damon movie I've paid to see.
So much wasted potential in this movie.
I'm patiently waiting for a good OIF movie with no heavy handed political BS overtones.
I figure I'll be waiting at least 15-20 years for it.
Don't worry, people like him and the other Hollyweird elites will be the first to be eaten when the zombie apocalypse finally comes.:biggrin:
DC Photog
24 January 2010, 22:26
Now that I think about it, Saving Private Ryan is the only Matt Damon movie I've paid to see.
So much wasted potential in this movie.
I'm patiently waiting for a good OIF movie with no heavy handed political BS overtones.
I figure I'll be waiting at least 15-20 years for it.
"The Hurt Locker" was an apolitical OIF movie to me, whether it was good is a different conversation from a different thread.
GTG
24 January 2010, 22:31
In my perfect world if you are an Elected or Politically Appointed official (Plum Book etc) in the Federal Government you would be required to have a child in the armed forces.
Folks in the beltway would think differently if their own kids were walking point.
Just sayin'...
Hey, I completely agree it may change their perspective, and it might produce some political leaders with true conviction and stones for once who don't do things for the sake of their own political self interest.
I think that he's earned the right to at least have an opinion seeing how he actually went to Haiti the day after the earthquake and handed out food/water brought there at his own expense.
Most Hollywood fat asses that opine as to politics don't do that or anything that might require to intermingle with the unwashed huddled masses.
Everyone has their right to their own opinion, regardless of their view; and it's good to see individuals like that put their money where their mouth is..er... to good use I mean. It seems though that garsh, does every movie these guys make HAVE to be making a statement about something that supports their personal beliefs? I guess thats "art."
DC Photog
24 January 2010, 22:38
I don't remember which course it was for but my girlfriend had to rent and watch "Lions for Lambs", that was the worse movie featuring combat I have ever seen. I wouldn't call it a war movie. I just hope this movie isn't as preachy as what I just mentioned.
When I saw the beginning of the trailer the first time, I thought it was literally going to be Jason Bourne IV with it being a prequel to the franchise storyline. Having said that, it isn't Jason Bourne IV in title but it still looks that way in typical Bourne plot.
Papa Smurf
25 January 2010, 01:38
I don't remember which course it was for but my girlfriend had to rent and watch "Lions for Lambs", that was the worse movie featuring combat I have ever seen. I wouldn't call it a war movie. I just hope this movie isn't as preachy as what I just mentioned.
Coming soon the a thread near you - worst ever 'war' movies...
ilots
25 January 2010, 02:26
I think that he's earned the right to at least have an opinion seeing how he actually went to Haiti the day after the earthquake and handed out food/water brought there at his own expense.
I have given out multiple cards, money, food, time, & more - to friends & family who suffered from serious medical issues - & yet I do not suddenly feel qualified to treat, diagnose, & especially magically cure medical conditions.
Of course, I offer the same about actors who I am more likely to agree with...
I have always viewed them as Organ Grinder Monkeys. They are there to entertain. I don't give a sheeot about their views on the positive role that the advancement of women's right will have as means to counter the insurgency in Afghanistan. They are well paid dancing monkeys. The studio grinds the handle, they dance around on a their leash, we give them coins. No coins get handed in, they get their little hat taken away. That is it.
Don't get me wrong! MANY celebs use their recognition to support great charities & orgs. That is awesome. Especially, when they do it on the down-low, say in weight sets to the Joes way back in Haiti or G.S. Cookies to A-stan, then Kudos.... when I have to see it on the news, so that they can blather on about how "it really is," due to their confusion about "playing" a role rather then "living" a role.... all I REALLY hear is a little tune playing & the words "dance little monkey, dance."
yojinbukai
25 January 2010, 12:54
WTF.... this looks like another Bourne movie only it starts out with him on the government side. You don't know who you're dealing with. You're my prisoner and I'm bringing you in. Off the reservation. He's still out there and still a threat.
I keep waiting for COL Trautmann to chime in with his "don't forget a good supply of body bags" line. Yeah, different movie, but this one is full of the same cliches.
I might buy the $2 version downrange but that's about it.
MikeC2W
26 January 2010, 14:40
Looks entertaining. I don't really go to the movies anymore, but I will definitely rent this one.
What's wrong with another action movie where the bad guys die? The Bourne movies, I thought, were incredibly entertaining and for some reason (and I don't know why) Damon seems to excel at these roles, so why wouldn't he continue doing them?
You guys crack me up. I'd watch a hundred Rambo's or Bourne's to avoid having to ever watch "You got mail". So Damon is reusing a successful action template....good for him! Just keep Meg Ryan from reusing her successful template!
I've pretty much 100% stopped listening to actors and their politics, so that it no longer precludes me from watching them on the big screen. If by chance I hear some asshatery from them, I am fairly successful at still enjoying a good flick.
Although I still can't stomach Sean Penn.
Dirtpuppy
28 January 2010, 23:53
Another trailer.
http://filmdrunk.uproxx.com/2010/01/matt-damon-like-youve-never-seen
SATCOM
15 February 2010, 20:02
Here's a short vid on his training for this movie: http://www.imdb.com/video/cbs/vi739115033/
PV74RU78
15 February 2010, 21:38
Looks like a good action movie.
But think of this when I see him
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZWTzyU5MFgM
Durka, durka !!!:tongue:
Massgrunt
15 February 2010, 22:41
Looks entertaining. I don't really go to the movies anymore, but I will definitely rent this one.
What's wrong with another action movie where the bad guys die? The Bourne movies, I thought, were incredibly entertaining and for some reason (and I don't know why) Damon seems to excel at these roles, so why wouldn't he continue doing them?
From the trailer, it looks like yet another "the enemy is us" movie from Matt Damon. The Bourne movies, Syriana, probably a couple others I've forgotten. In all these movies, the bad guys were the sinister American agents. Between that and his vocal political stances, fuck Matt Damon.
MikeC2W
16 February 2010, 09:00
From the trailer, it looks like yet another "the enemy is us" movie from Matt Damon. The Bourne movies, Syriana, probably a couple others I've forgotten. In all these movies, the bad guys were the sinister American agents. Between that and his vocal political stances, fuck Matt Damon.
Dude, did you ever serve in the Active duty service??? If you did you would know, sinister American agents are EVERYWHERE! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
0699
16 February 2010, 10:42
Dude, did you ever serve in the Active duty service??? If you did you would know, sinister American agents are EVERYWHERE! :biggrin::biggrin::biggrin:
It's not their fault, it's because of the implanted microchips controlling their brain... :biggrin:
Jong
16 February 2010, 11:11
It's not their fault, it's because of the implanted microchips controlling their brain... :biggrin:
Microchips, is that the reason for those sinister agents? I thought it was from lack of brain cells!! So they replaced those brains with empty microchips, now that explains everything!! :eek::eek::eek:
billdawg
16 February 2010, 14:15
Billdawg--
What did frogs ever do to you to merit such an unflattering comparison?:confused:
lol, Nothing. I love frog eyes on frogs. It's when women have them, like the chick in the new Dear John movie, that I find it disturbing.
billdawg
16 February 2010, 14:20
Looks entertaining. I don't really go to the movies anymore, but I will definitely rent this one.
What's wrong with another action movie where the bad guys die? The Bourne movies, I thought, were incredibly entertaining and for some reason (and I don't know why) Damon seems to excel at these roles, so why wouldn't he continue doing them?
You guys crack me up. I'd watch a hundred Rambo's or Bourne's to avoid having to ever watch "You got mail". So Damon is reusing a successful action template....good for him! Just keep Meg Ryan from reusing her successful template!
I've pretty much 100% stopped listening to actors and their politics, so that it no longer precludes me from watching them on the big screen. If by chance I hear some asshatery from them, I am fairly successful at still enjoying a good flick.
Although I still can't stomach Sean Penn.
I agree. If you watch them fo rpure entertainment, they're great. But it seems like so many movies of that genre these days, have to deal with the evil govt/CIA/military machine that exploits it's citizens,and it's up to on enoble person to go out and right all these governmental wrongs. ANd when a self -avowed liberal whack job like Damon(although he may be better than some), do those movies, you just know, he truly beleives the BS he's peddling.
MikeC2W
16 February 2010, 15:04
I agree. If you watch them fo rpure entertainment, they're great. But it seems like so many movies of that genre these days, have to deal with the evil govt/CIA/military machine that exploits it's citizens,and it's up to on enoble person to go out and right all these governmental wrongs. ANd when a self -avowed liberal whack job like Damon(although he may be better than some), do those movies, you just know, he truly beleives the BS he's peddling.
Well....it would be politically incorrect to have bad guys look like anything other than white middle aged educated males.
Get serious. :)
Just wanted to bump this thread to the top since the movie is coming out/has come out this weekend.
Initial review is it's a soldier mad that President Bush lied about WMDs and got him in a war...
RedDawg_03
12 March 2010, 13:18
of course it is.....(my sarcasm voice)
mrwill
12 March 2010, 14:18
Initial review is it's a soldier mad that President Bush lied about WMDs and got him in a war...
It would have been much cooler if he just went "off the reservation" over the fact that he had to wear his relective belt on the FOB. It figures that Hollyweird thinks Soldiers (or in this case a WO) would/could feasibly do something like this. During the invasion lots of us brushed aside the fact that we found no WMD's after we discovered the ice cream shop in Baghdad, or the Kufa Cola cola plant.
Ricochet
12 March 2010, 14:49
My wife and I saw it Wednesday night over here in Thailand... disappointing to say the least... nothing like the action and/or storyline of Bourne...
billdawg
12 March 2010, 15:24
Just wanted to bump this thread to the top since the movie is coming out/has come out this weekend.
Initial review is it's a soldier mad that President Bush lied about WMDs and got him in a war...
:eek: <-------My shocked face.
billdawg
12 March 2010, 15:31
It would have been much cooler if he just went "off the reservation" over the fact that he had to wear his relective belt on the FOB. .
LOL, or getting in trouble for wearing watch caps, outside the hours of darkness.
Believeraz
13 March 2010, 07:07
Initial review is it's a soldier mad that President Bush lied about WMDs and got him in a war...
One of the guys involved in making the movie was one of my soldiers pre-9/11. This is exactly what he has been running his suck about. He's become a militant peacenik/conspiracy theorist.
xfrogTX
13 March 2010, 08:59
Be sure to watch for the "Evil Contractor" angle. I don't KNOW it will be in there, but Hollywood has begun putting them in a few things I've seen.
Massgrunt
13 March 2010, 09:18
Be sure to watch for the "Evil Contractor" angle. I don't KNOW it will be in there, but Hollywood has begun putting them in a few things I've seen.
I called this years back. movie villains will have briefly revealed bear paw tattoos and shit for years to come.
LRS Guy
13 March 2010, 09:44
WMD, WMD's. Blah, blah!
Hell, Saddam's generals thought they had them, ALL the intell service's told us Saddam had them, 16 violated UN resolutions indicated something was up, one of Saddam's top scientist had WMD plans buried in his garden, US forces found all the MIGs buried in the sand out in the desert, I could go on......
But the Hollywood liberals don't care, they HATE George Bush, hate conservatives,I doubt they think highly of the "Sheepdogs" (that would be us) that protect their a&&'s. The Michael Moore's and Matt Damon's are like Gobbels if you repeat a lie (pick one, "Bush lied", global warming, etc), most people will believe it.
I have quit watching most new movies, because the bad guy often....resembles me. Some white, conservative, hetrosexual, male who has been in the...(take your pick) mil, businessman, govt, with capitalist tendencies who takes personal responsibilty for his actions.
I'd just as soon kick Matt Damon's butt as get an autograph. No desire to see this movie at all.
CarbineM1
13 March 2010, 15:46
Saw it today with the wife (both former mil, her more recent)
save your money
Ranger1
13 March 2010, 16:15
For anyone that's been in the IZ, or knows anything in the slightest about the subject matter, it's great comedy. Go see it. Seriously. Last night I was laughing my ass off.
It's even funnier than the Hurt Locker which is tough to beat from the humour outlook.
SATCOM
14 March 2010, 12:50
Some opinion from the retired CWO-4 Mil Advisor:
The Truth About "Green Zone"
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/03/13/richard-monty-gonzales-green-zone-iraq-adviser-baghdad-bourne-judith-miller/
As principle military adviser on the just-released thriller "Green Zone," I have an obligation to the soldiers and civilians with whom I served to ensure that my involvement in the production of the film does not lend the appearance of accuracy to the assertion that a massive conspiracy led us into the war in Iraq.
My role as the principle military adviser on the film had absolutely nothing to do with making political statements; in fact, to the extent possible, the most important role I played as an adviser was to push the plot as far away from reality as possible. After receiving assurances from Paul Greengrass, the Director of “Green Zone,” that he would not allow the film to be turned into an exploitive polemic, I agreed to participate.
Paul asked me to distinguish which elements of the film were factual and which were pure fantasy. As I watched the plot develop into a larger than life, unrealistic conspiracy theory, I felt there could be no mistaking it for anything other than a great Hollywood action thriller.
But, as some have pointed out, Green Zone is not a typical thriller. There are a number of assertions throughout the film that have caused some, on both sides of the political spectrum, to react disproportionately to this fictional film.
“Green Zone” contains several messages, an unavoidable consequence of making a film of this genre. Critical blunders preceding the invasion, chiefly the bad intelligence that led us to war, made certain that no quick victory would be achieved and certainly undermined U.S. credibility around the world. Later, the U.S. directed a de-Bathification policy which disenfranchised a massive section of the population and helped fuel an insurgency. Consequently, any hope of victory in Iraq was made vastly more complicated and costly -- as the last 7 years have proven. I I believe this is true.
However, “Green Zone” also suggests that we were lied into the war in Iraq; a subtext that is unfortunately being twisted by some in order to give credence to a bumper sticker I deplore, the mantra which has become the left's version of the war -- which is well on its way to becoming the Iraq conflict's official history -- "They lied; people died." As intriguing as that idea may be, it’s simply not true.
Obvious parallels between Amy Ryan’s character and former New York Times reporter Judy Miller have fueled numerous critical personal attacks against Judy. No confrontation between Judy and I ever took place. On the battlefield in Iraq in 2003 her pre-war reporting was no concern of mine. In fact, I have never seen anyone more desperately pursue the truth; our government and a hell of a lot of people were wrong about the situation in Iraq leading up to the war and it is spineless to assign blame in such a disproportionate manner.
I am surprised and disappointed that some are trying to twist fictional accounts into reality.
The veterans involved, especially me, spent an enormous amount of time and energy ensuring that the details of the sets, the equipment and the characteristics of the soldiers being portrayed were as accurate as possible—albeit larger than life. But, the fascinating and juicy conspiracy theory that makes “Green Zone” such a great thriller was not our story and I was pleased to see it grow like a tall tale on a daily basis.
This film makes no claim based on fact and no assertions to the contrary should be made. Seeding paranoia was not my intention as an adviser nor was it the intention of the soldiers with whom I worked closely with over the two year period this film was being made.
I think that “Green Zone” is a great, gripping action thriller -- a Bourne-in-Baghdad adventure that will certainly entertain audiences. But I would be appalled if film-goers thought that it was anything other than fiction. The portrayal of the characters in the film is not how the soldiers with whom I worked or the American officials I dealt with in Iraq conducted themselves. The real story of the hunt for WMD is, in fact, more interesting. Maybe one day, someone will want to tell that story.
The story of “Green Zone” is not mine and does not accurately portray my team’s experience in Iraq in 2003—to suggest it does is ludicrous.
Richard L. "Monty" Gonzales retired from the U.S. military as a Chief Warrant Officer 4. He served as principle military adviser on the film "Green Zone." He currently serves on the board of directors of Support The Heroes.
Massgrunt
14 March 2010, 16:35
Some opinion from the retired CWO-4 Mil Advisor:
The Truth About "Green Zone"
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/03/13/richard-monty-gonzales-green-zone-iraq-adviser-baghdad-bourne-judith-miller/
As principle military adviser on the just-released thriller "Green Zone," I have an obligation to the soldiers and civilians with whom I served to ensure that my involvement in the production of the film does not lend the appearance of accuracy to the assertion that a massive conspiracy led us into the war in Iraq...
Excuses are like assholes.
CarnageWhiskey
14 March 2010, 19:33
What a load of BS.
CarbineM1
14 March 2010, 19:35
your right....
MandMmom
17 March 2010, 10:28
Saw it last night with hubby (I was the only chick in the theatre, thank you very much). Rating: as action films go, OK. No big surprises. Contractors didn't get addressed. It certainly made SF look like the mindless assassins of the evil administrative dude (Greg Kinnear--who I still see as the gay guy in "As Good As It Gets")--and would Damon/Bourne/Miller really not have called for medevac of a fellow soldier who was injured???
My last thought as I drifted off to sleep was "It was kind of a "Good Morning, Vietnam!" in Baghdad, with Sparky recast as the one-legged Freddie . . . "
I don't understand. If all these people hate the US or are against its policies why don't they get out? I hear Canada is nice this time of the year.
I don't care about Matt Damon either way, but this comment jumped out at me. That whole line of reasoning seems fundamentally fucked up to me. If you don't like something, run from it? That's not something I was ever taught...
I don't like gun control, or "big government," but I'm not going to leave simply because I don't like it...I'm going to stay around, and fight my little piece of the good fight.
Hell, I could go somewhere with no gun control, or not enough government to enforce gun control...or, I could stay here, and do everything I can to stop it, right?
No, this is not intended to be a gun control argument...just used that to illustrate the case in point.
Running away doesn't solve anything...as an aside, I'll also state that I don't think being anti-war constitutes being "anti-America," or any such thing.
--BastardOperatorFromHell
Matchanu
17 March 2010, 13:44
Excuses are like assholes.
Contractors working on the Death Star, ("Clerks" reference).
grappler
17 March 2010, 13:46
I don't care about Matt Damon either way, but this comment jumped out at me. That whole line of reasoning seems fundamentally fucked up to me. If you don't like something, run from it? That's not something I was ever taught...
I don't like gun control, or "big government," but I'm not going to leave simply because I don't like it...I'm going to stay around, and fight my little piece of the good fight.
Hell, I could go somewhere with no gun control, or not enough government to enforce gun control...or, I could stay here, and do everything I can to stop it, right?
No, this is not intended to be a gun control argument...just used that to illustrate the case in point.
Running away doesn't solve anything...as an aside, I'll also state that I don't think being anti-war constitutes being "anti-America," or any such thing.
--BastardOperatorFromHell
SPOT THE FUCK ON.
Matchanu
17 March 2010, 13:47
I don't care about Matt Damon either way, but this comment jumped out at me. That whole line of reasoning seems fundamentally fucked up to me. If you don't like something, run from it? That's not something I was ever taught...
I don't like gun control, or "big government," but I'm not going to leave simply because I don't like it...I'm going to stay around, and fight my little piece of the good fight.
Hell, I could go somewhere with no gun control, or not enough government to enforce gun control...or, I could stay here, and do everything I can to stop it, right?
No, this is not intended to be a gun control argument...just used that to illustrate the case in point.
Running away doesn't solve anything...as an aside, I'll also state that I don't think being anti-war constitutes being "anti-America," or any such thing.
--BastardOperatorFromHell
X3.
DC Photog
27 March 2010, 16:17
It was beyond a terrible movie. I usually like to offer some kind of positive reflection in the form of a critique. I suppose the only thing nice to say is that the performances weren't absolutely terrible. But the story was conspiracy from start to finish and beyond predictable. The cinematography drove me nuts, some of it is too technical or nit picky to get into. I want my money back. I think they have soiled the name of the Bourne trilogy.
arizonaguide
30 March 2010, 02:09
Saw the Green Zone today.
Haven't been in the box, so can't address the reality of the cinematography of movie.
However, two things I CAN say:
1. it ain't no Bourne movie, or even Private Ryan.
2. in "REAL LIFE" Chief Warrant Officer Roy Miller's actions would earn him the "heroic" opportunity to be guarding the Sewage Treatment Facility at some remote radar site in Alaska for the duration.
Holy crap! Finally watching the movie tonight at work...gotta say, even seeing it for free...it's not worth it. This is time I can never get back. Would have been better spent simply staring at the blank screen.
Just saw it also. Haven't been in the sandbox either, but the movie just feels dull.
Polypro
2 September 2010, 10:20
2. in "REAL LIFE" Chief Warrant Officer Roy Miller's actions would earn him the "heroic" opportunity to be guarding the Sewage Treatment Facility at some remote radar site in Alaska for the duration.
Is that because he couldn't find any WMD either? :biggrin:
Sorry for the resurrection, just saw it, as it just came out on Blu-ray via Netflix. The Judith Miller and Chalabi/'Curveball' characters were clear. I couldn't quite figure out who Kinnear was...so many possible choices. It get's really 'Bourne' near the end and there is sillyness, but eh... If you think "we just haven't found those buried silos yet.." or the 'caravan to Syria' fable...you will hate it.
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MikeC2W
2 September 2010, 10:35
I saw it last week, KICKASS was way better.
KidA
2 September 2010, 10:41
I saw it last week, KICKASS was way better.
Well duh.
Saw it a week or so ago - good mindless action entertainment on a Saturday afternoon when it was 90+ degrees outside and I didn't want to do anything else.
Not believable, didn't have me on google looking up facts to support it, didn't put me into conspiracy theory mode - just a Hollywood movie with chase scenes and such.
Unless a movie is a "documentary" (and even then it has to be something worthwhile) I don't look as movies as anything other than entertainment.
MikeC2W
2 September 2010, 10:47
Well duh.
Saw it a week or so ago - good mindless action entertainment on a Saturday afternoon when it was 90+ degrees outside and I didn't want to do anything else.
Not believable, didn't have me on google looking up facts to support it, didn't put me into conspiracy theory mode - just a Hollywood movie with chase scenes and such.
Unless a movie is a "documentary" (and even then it has to be something worthwhile) I don't look as movies as anything other than entertainment.
That's the best bet really - entertaining? Fail or Pass.
KICKASS was way more entertaining!
Jason Bourne would have never let that mustachio'd dude bunch him in the face like that. If he had nailed the reporter, killed Kinnear and all his henchman, saved the General, and found the WMD it would have been WAY better.
The only thing remotely amusing was, I was on a flight watching it on my iPad feeling bad for all the people trying to watch movies on their phones.....
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