Captain America Says Tea Parties Are Dangerous and Racist [Archive] - SOCNET: The Special Operations Community Network

Trailboss

8 February 2010, 21:16

Haven't bought any comics since I was a kid...I'm pretty glad of that now!

http://www.publiusforum.com/2010/02/08/marvel-comics-captain-america-says-tea-parties-are-dangerous-and-racist/

My personal favorite comic is The Punisher, of which I have the entire collection in the form of scans I have downloaded over the past couple years...The left hasn't infiltrated that series...yet!

From the article:

"Marvel Comic’s Captain America is the mightiest soldier with the super powerful secret soldier formula that makes him a super man. Sadly, this muscle bound hero that took on the whole Nazi army during WWII seems to be afraid of those American people who’ve joined the Tea Party movement. Not only is Cappy quaking in his little red booties, but he’s sure that the Tea Party folks are dangerous racists, too."

"Isn’t it wonderful that a decades old American comic book hero is now being used to turn readers against our very political system, being used to slander folks that are standing up for real American principles in real life — and one called “Captain America” at that?"

What do y'all think of that...? Crazy stuff!

Divot

8 February 2010, 21:21

Racist? I like all types of tea, black, white even green.

Trailboss

8 February 2010, 21:43

HA! Well....I'm a coffee man myself....

MakoZeroSix

8 February 2010, 21:52

I just want to see him Tea-Bag Wonder Woman.

That would be even funnier than the reactions of the Tea Party people when they had to have somebody explain to them what "Tea Bagging" actually was.

bobofthedesert

9 February 2010, 00:10

Just so long as there is no mixing of green and black tea. I think we all know what happens when you do that.......:rolleyes:

hardknocks

9 February 2010, 00:23

Touche' Nice cross thread.

usnavy_233

9 February 2010, 00:33

If you've got green "tea bags" you should probably have yourself checked. Just sayin.

10thvet

9 February 2010, 00:39

I think the point being is that comic books(for the most part) are directed towards kids.

I love how race is always a factor just because some people cant stand a politican who just happens to be of a differnt race. When W was the President and there were people who didnt agree with him, they were not labled racist. Just keep throwing out the race card and when there is a situation where it is needed, no one will pay attention any more.(modern day version of crying wolf)

Nothing suprises me anymore.

Steve83

9 February 2010, 01:44

Captain America,

Lick my balls.

Respectfully,

Steve

PBR549xxx

9 February 2010, 07:37

Unfortunately, the shitheads writing comics want to use this as a medium for getting there left leaning views out there. I was a avid Captain America reader in the 80s and I dont remember any politics involved. It was black and white, good vs. evil. The Red Skull and his Nazis were bad, etc etc.

baconandliver

9 February 2010, 08:40

I really do hate it when comic writers try to push an agenda. It's ok to make things more morally grey and complex, not just black and white, but this sort of politicization is just stupid (I'd hate it just as much if it was a nonviolent liberal group being criticized). This just makes me want to kick Captain America in his "teabags" like Deadpool did: http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1314/971783457_4a9ce4eb40_o.jpg .

And Trailboss: Do you have the Punisher series printed with the "MAX" label (Marvel's mature readers label)? My love for those and their first writer, Garth Ennis, is probably my best hidden nerd tendency.

MikeC2W

9 February 2010, 09:26

Fucking ridiculous, the fucking HULK would kick his ass.

Having Captain America battle against political free speech, is about as fucking anti-American as you can get. Looks like the authors are reading too much from the office of Janet Napolitano.

Ole crusty bastard

9 February 2010, 09:54

I was thinking Ted Turner.

Bravo Five Romeo

9 February 2010, 13:09

I donloaded and read the comic in question.

The author who wrote the article accusing the comic of calling Tea Party protesters racist and dangerous is an alarmist buffoon.
Just look up some of his other articles where he advocates outlawing Islam and prohibiting Muslims from holding elected office.

As to the comic in question... Captain America tries to infiltrate a radical white separatist terrorist organization based in Idaho called the Watchdogs.

While in Idaho, Captain America and (I forgot the other hero's name) observe a Tea Party protests. Appparently one of the characters has been away for years (suspended animation I think) and the other points out that sentiment has changed and the mood of the country has changed and anger at the government has grown... a mood the Watchdogs wants to capitalize on.

The few images of the Tea party protest shown in the comic do not have the protesters doing anything racist, dangerous or crazy.
in fact, the signs the protesters carry in the comic are quite benign.

The comic was not about the Tea Partys... it just had a Tea Party protest to allow one character to make a point to another.

The article's author has his panties in a bunch and just sees evil liberals everywhere. Posting articles from sites like that and WND is as trustworthy as posting from Daily Kos or the Daily Worker.

billdawg

9 February 2010, 15:07

The article's author has his panties in a bunch and just sees evil liberals everywhere. .

HELLOOOO, because they're out there. It's not paranoia, if it's true,:biggrin:

Matchanu

9 February 2010, 15:36

The article's author has his panties in a bunch and just sees evil liberals everywhere. Posting articles from sites like that and WND is as trustworthy as posting from Daily Kos or the Daily Worker.

http://marvel.com/news/comicstories.6546.spidey_meets_the_president~excl~

Yup, nothing to see here.:rolleyes:

I had a gander at the Capt America comic, it seems pretty aparent to me it's essentially calling the tea party protest "anti-government" and "racist".

How you can't see that is beyond me.

Marvel has fallen off the deep left end.

It's pretty sad.

Fire-Gunner

9 February 2010, 16:07

Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.

Bravo_One_Three

9 February 2010, 19:21

Mmmm, mmmm, mmmm.

Well put!

DC Photog

9 February 2010, 22:17

While in Idaho, Captain America and (I forgot the other hero's name) observe a Tea Party protests. Appparently one of the characters has been away for years (suspended animation I think) and the other points out that sentiment has changed and the mood of the country has changed and anger at the government has grown... a mood the Watchdogs wants to capitalize on.

The few images of the Tea party protest shown in the comic do not have the protesters doing anything racist, dangerous or crazy.
in fact, the signs the protesters carry in the comic are quite benign.

The comic was not about the Tea Partys... it just had a Tea Party protest to allow one character to make a point to another.

I don't usually agree with you but you are as close to correct as I've read so far. Yes it wasThe Watchdogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watchdogs) and not really the Tea Baggers. Although, as this particular arc progresses. I expect to see the Watchdogs attempt to recruit from the Tea Bag movement and other anti-government groups. TBH I haven't seen them in any comics for quite a while. But the group dates back to the 80's. They've been in Cap's rogue gallery just like Hydra, AIM, the Red Skull, etc. for quite a while.

His partner was Falcon out of costume and it was Cap that has been gone a while. He was just recently resurrected in the dumbest ass arc I've seen in a while. Neat idea, stretched out too long to sell more books... 6 issues for a resurrection is beyond dumb. Forget the fact that Marvel said he was dead for good when he was killed. But then again, the readers didn't like anyone they put in the costume whether it was Hawkeye or Bucky/Winter Soldier.

Now I won't lie and say comics don't have more political overtones today, but this guy has missed the mark.

Steve83

9 February 2010, 22:33

I don't usually agree with you but you are as close to correct as I've read so far. Yes it wasThe Watchdogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watchdogs) and not really the Tea Baggers. Although, as this particular arc progresses. I expect to see the Watchdogs attempt to recruit from the Tea Bag movement and other anti-government groups

From your link:

A Watchdog member must be an adult male over 21 with a valid gun permit willing to sign an affidavit in blood that he is not a homosexual, believes in the Bible and the United States Constitution, disavows all immoral acts, and is willing to use violence to oppose all activities, materials, institutions, and individuals which are deemed by the organization to undermine the morality and decency of the United States.

Ok?

Who do you think this is an allusion too? I mean, its not like the "watchdogs" and the "teabaggers" are apples and oranges here.

smoked

9 February 2010, 22:41

I don't usually agree with you but you are as close to correct as I've read so far. Yes it wasThe Watchdogs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Watchdogs) and not really the Tea Baggers. Although, as this particular arc progresses. I expect to see the Watchdogs attempt to recruit from the Tea Bag movement and other anti-government groups. TBH I haven't seen them in any comics for quite a while. But the group dates back to the 80's. They've been in Cap's rogue gallery just like Hydra, AIM, the Red Skull, etc. for quite a while.

His partner was Falcon out of costume and it was Cap that has been gone a while. He was just recently resurrected in the dumbest ass arc I've seen in a while. Neat idea, stretched out too long to sell more books... 6 issues for a resurrection is beyond dumb. Forget the fact that Marvel said he was dead for good when he was killed. But then again, the readers didn't like anyone they put in the costume whether it was Hawkeye or Bucky/Winter Soldier.

Now I won't lie and say comics don't have more political overtones today, but this guy has missed the mark.

It's Tea PARTY, k? ;)

MakoZeroSix

9 February 2010, 22:44

A Watchdog member must be an adult male over 21 with a valid gun permit willing to sign an affidavit in blood that he is not a homosexual, believes in the Bible and the United States Constitution, disavows all immoral acts, and is willing to use violence to oppose all activities, materials, institutions, and individuals which are deemed by the organization to undermine the morality and decency of the United States.

Wow. Sounds like a bunch of really fun guys. Does being a Watchdog member also include having a body fat percentage in excess of 35? :rolleyes:

It's Tea PARTY,

Tea Baggers you have been christened- Tea Baggers you shalst remain. Come on- you guys should have been smart enough to see that allusion coming. Its kind of like not naming your kid Gaylord.

smoked

9 February 2010, 23:02

Tea Baggers you have been christened- Tea Baggers you shalst remain. Come on- you guys should have been smart enough to see that allusion coming. Its kind of like not naming your kid Gaylord.

I'm no "Tea Bagger" - in that sense, anyway. I'm not even a fan of Palin and hope she shelves any wishes for higher office. I was simply pointing out the use of the term in a post that attempted objectivity.

And, that Watchdog group looks like a bunch of tools.

DC Photog

10 February 2010, 10:19

From your link:

A Watchdog member must be an adult male over 21 with a valid gun permit willing to sign an affidavit in blood that he is not a homosexual, believes in the Bible and the United States Constitution, disavows all immoral acts, and is willing to use violence to oppose all activities, materials, institutions, and individuals which are deemed by the organization to undermine the morality and decency of the United States.

Ok?

Who do you think this is an allusion too? I mean, its not like the "watchdogs" and the "teabaggers" are apples and oranges here.

Since when were wiki entries definitive? It's more information about the group and properly identifies them than what the OP's article put out.

Singling out the Bible and the US Constitution part of their membership requirements is ignoring the rest of what has made the group an extreme, right wing militant organization.

Captain America has battled Nazis for decades. This group was featured more in the US Agent franchise. US Agent was an attempt to potentially replace Cap with a more modern hero and a more modern enemy. They didn't want to use Nazi's or the KKK, that's who they have always been modeled off of in my own opinion.

Forget the fact that they (the Watchdogs) are A) still not the Tea Party B) are actually dangerous

DC Photog

10 February 2010, 10:21

It's Tea PARTY, k? ;)

Sure.

Cujo

10 February 2010, 10:43

Gents, fear not! James "Bucky" Barnes said this. He is the REPLACEMENT Cap. Steve Rogers would NEVER say that...:D

Trailboss

10 February 2010, 20:56

Trailboss

10 February 2010, 21:04

Since when were wiki entries definitive? It's more information about the group and properly identifies them than what the OP's article put out.

Singling out the Bible and the US Constitution part of their membership requirements is ignoring the rest of what has made the group an extreme, right wing militant organization.

Captain America has battled Nazis for decades. This group was featured more in the US Agent franchise. US Agent was an attempt to potentially replace Cap with a more modern hero and a more modern enemy. They didn't want to use Nazi's or the KKK, that's who they have always been modeled off of in my own opinion.

Forget the fact that they (the Watchdogs) are A) still not the Tea Party B) are actually dangerous

Interesting: not sure what is up with the "watchdogs", I'll have to look them up and see what their deal is. As far as the Tea Party members go: despite the negative brush everyone from CNN to Marvel comics paints them with, they are as far from "right wing extremist" as you can get. Ordinary, everyday people, law abiding, tax-paying, voting citizens, who are (rightfully) concerned about the direction this nation is going. I'm proud to be counted among them. The left wing kooks in the media are the ones who came up with "Tea Baggers" and I think it shows their lack of class and exposes their fear of regular folks who come together, assemble peacefully, and try to make their voices heard as a counter to the madness...it works: otherwise the media wouldn't fear them so much and slam them everywhere from the TV to comic books....

DC Photog

10 February 2010, 21:23

Interesting: not sure what is up with the "watchdogs", I'll have to look them up and see what their deal is.

You should, this is the first issue really of Steve Rogers back in action under his own title. He is infiltrating the Watchdogs and they are nothing like the Tea Party movement. They are terrorists, last I checked the Tea Party hasn't been held responsible for killing anyone's family, destroying personal property, etc.

Marvel=Disney while and this may have been done in a way that is slightly controversial to the sensitive, I just don't see Disney letting any of its subsidiaries pissing off the public that much in a truly direct and offensive manner. They are trying to market Captain America to kids on Disney XD, etc. there is a live action movie in the works. This is jumping the gun on the first chapter in an arc that isn't even close to over.

I've sort of suspected that Cap was brought back at Disney's direction during the negotiations that started last summer apparently. The resurrection was rushed and half-assed.

Anyone that honestly thinks that Captain and Marvel are taking a dive for the "deep left" need to borrow, buy, download, etc a copy of Captain America, Theater of War: Ghosts of My Country (http://marvel.com/catalog/?id=13016)

I remember lefties griping about Marvel being to close to the former admin for this little event
http://img.wonkette.com/images/thumbs/dfad65f7495f9639f38831b6b8e0c788.jpg

Trailboss

10 February 2010, 22:00

Excellent DC, found it in about 5 seconds at the site I go to for scans....looks good! Thanks!

DC Photog

10 February 2010, 22:19

Excellent DC, found it in about 5 seconds at the site I go to for scans....looks good! Thanks!

It's too bad that was a one-shot.

Someone mentioned the Punisher MAX series. Have you read the Nick Fury MAX? If you like Punisher MAX you'd probably like the Fury or even War Machine MAX runs. Short lived but pretty good.

Trailboss

10 February 2010, 22:33

Oh yea! I love the Fury Max series..."Peacemaker": priceless! Awesome job they did on 'em. War Machine I haven't tried: I will look it up. PM me if you want a couple reliable sites for downloading scans...

Ghosts of my Country was EXCELLENT! Very poignant! I will have to look for the rest of the Theatre of War series!

xfrogTX

10 February 2010, 23:23

[QUOTE=Bravo Five Romeo;1262959]I donloaded and read the comic in question.

The comic was not about the Tea Partys... it just had a Tea Party protest to allow one character to make a point to another.

Well, B5R is actually correct in his summary. I read the comic, it isn't protesting against anything yet. However, who knows what the future holds? That Dead Pool nut kick pic was pretty cool.:biggrin:

Graphic Ed

11 February 2010, 19:34

Yup, nothing to see here.

Real presidents have appeared next to fictional comic book characters for about 60 years, including Spiderman. Hell, President Kennedy swapped costumes with Clark Kent so he could maintain his secret identity.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/3/39/Reagan-transformers.jpg

http://www.4thletter.net/gavok/supernova/goldstar2.jpg

http://images3.wikia.nocookie.net/marvel_dc/images/thumb/3/39/Ronald_Reagan_01.jpg/200px-Ronald_Reagan_01.jpg