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LRS Guy
18 February 2010, 09:27
Saw this today, the video is here. Good stuff!





http://www.ireport.com/docs/DOC-409683







By Spc. Michael J. MacLeod and Spc. Kayleigh J. Cannon
1/82 AAB, USD-C

AL ASAD AIRBASE, Iraq – U.S. Army paratroopers took a first step toward a combined U.S. – Iraqi airborne training exercise when 183 paratroopers jumped onto Iraqi soil here Feb. 12 as part of their sustained airborne training.
Paratroopers with 1st Brigade, 82nd Airborne Division (Advise and Assist), began “currency jumps” to refresh their airborne skills following weeks of ground-based refresher courses in a bid to partner with Iraqi security forces during combined airborne training exercises.
“This is a really important day for the paratroopers of the 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment,” said Col. Mark R. Stammer, commander of 1/82 AAB, referring to the legacy regiment of his brigade. “More importantly, it’s an important first step in a training evolution for the Iraqi armed forces.
“We’re training today to refresh ourselves on airborne safety procedures so that after the elections, we can train with our Iraqi army partners and conduct a combined airborne training operation with them here,” he said.
Stammer said the combined training will allow U.S. and Iraqi forces to share not only the camaraderie of being paratroopers, but also the capability and capacity of a modern military force; another stone in the foundation of an enduring strategic partnership.
Stammer led the operation from the front as the first out the door of the C-130 aircraft, but not without a little humor.
“I still like it; that’s why I go first,” he said.
Conditions were nearly ideal for the training exercise, with mild winds and temperatures, and high visibility, according to Sgt. 1st Class Bryan Caldwell, noncommissioned officer in charge of airborne operations for 3rd Battalion, 319th Airborne Field Artillery Regiment, and drop zone safety officer.
Caldwell, who has conducted partnered airborne operations with other countries, said he has few concerns for the upcoming combined jumps with the Iraqis.
“A paratrooper’s a paratrooper,” said Caldwell.
“Once they get in the bird and they get parachutes on, it doesn’t matter where you are from or where you’ve been – it’s what you are doing at the moment,” he said. “The Iraqis are trained paratroopers. I think we’ll come together in the bird when it’s time and see something amazing.”
Command Sgt. Maj. William Johnson, the top noncommissioned officer for U.S. Division–Center, said that the ground was harder than the paratroopers were expecting, but their airborne training instincts kicked in to ensure safe landings.
“We’re going to train the Iraqis up just like we trained the 82nd paratroopers to get back into currency,” said Johnson. “Then, we’ll do a combined jump. It’s going to make their army even better.”
The training exercise continued smoothly with no major incidents, according to Sgt. 1st Class William Johnson, noncommissioned officer in charge of airborne operations for 1/82 AAB and the person responsible for planning all the events.
After the second jump, the paratroopers were an hour ahead of schedule and by the end of the exercise, 183 jumpers had parachuted onto a drop zone, with only one mild injury, a slight concussion.
“Seeing the first 20 guys load up, it was like seeing the tip of the iceberg to all the hard work we’ve done to make this happen,” said Johnson.
The exercises are the first large-scale training jumps in Iraq since the beginning of the war, according to Command Sgt. Maj. Frank Grippe, the top noncommissioned officer of I Corps and the second paratrooper to jump from the first aircraft.
“As a unit, we’re able to not only train ourselves but as a goal, do a partnered parachute jump with our Iraqi allies here in the not-too-distant future,” said Grippe.
“It’s just another metric that we’re winning the fight here and that we’re continually professionalizing Iraqi security forces,” he said.
Two years ago, Al Anbar province was considered too dangerous to conduct training jumps, and combined airborne training with Iraqi security forces was out of the question, according to 1st Sgt. Scott Thomas of Company C, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment. His paratroopers will participate in the second of three training jumps.
“It was at the tail end of the Anbar Awakening, and I remember we had an active al Qaeda [in Iraq] cell nearby,” said Thomas, a former scout platoon sergeant for 2-504th PIR operating in the vicinity of Al Asad in 2007.
The Iraqi army was not ready back then, he said, but they are now.

RGR.Montcalm
18 February 2010, 09:36
Whole lot of guys will be sporting Iraqi Jump Wings on their Class A's- whowouldathunkit?

I guess they will follow the U.S. model of Airborne School instead of the British or Russian Model? I mean that their first jump will be from a C-130 or whatever they buy as their jump platform instead of a balloon...

Anyone know how to sing

"C-130 rolling down the strip..." in Arabic?;):biggrin:

SN
18 February 2010, 11:54
Whole lot of guys will be sporting Iraqi Jump Wings on their Class A's- whowouldathunkit?


What I was thinking, Kudoes to the staff for getting this past the chairborne rangers

RGR.Montcalm
18 February 2010, 12:01
What I was thinking, Kudoes to the staff for getting this past the chairborne rangers

That went through because they want their's too.

Did you see where CSM Frank Grippe was the second jumper? He's NOT in a PPP as the I Corps CSM and his boss, LTG Jacoby, was my boss as a COL (CDR- JTFB) in Honduras and was on Jump duty there.

Too easy when a 3 star wants it to happen...;)

sixgun
18 February 2010, 19:24
Oh, someone please tell me that Col. Clifford "Skip" Day, USAF, was on the manifest....

snaquebite
18 February 2010, 19:32
Whole lot of guys will be sporting Iraqi Jump Wings on their Class A's- whowouldathunkit?

OK, I'll ask....What do Iraqi jump wings look like?

jsmurphy
18 February 2010, 19:52
OK, I'll ask....What do Iraqi jump wings look like?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/30927576@N02/4236062248/

snaquebite
18 February 2010, 20:08
Almost look like Honduran, Egyptian, Jordanian or Kuwaiti wings but closer to Dom Rep.

CDRODA396
18 February 2010, 20:08
http://www.flickr.com/photos/30927576@N02/4236062248/

Snaquebite beat me too it!

USMC_ANGLICO
18 February 2010, 20:38
"Two years ago, Al Anbar province was considered too dangerous to conduct training jumps...
...according to 1st Sgt. Scott Thomas of Company C, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment. His paratroopers will participate in the second of three training jumps."

I wouldn't go that far, 5th ANGLICO and 1st Recon were conducting training jumps on Al Asad at DZ Recon during that timeframe. I conducted my SF-10 transition course with 1st Recon on that DZ in Nov/Dec 08 and Recon had been jumping out there before we showed up to tag along. Some of those young Marines got 20+ jumps during their package, both C-130 and MV-22 platforms.

B 2/75
18 February 2010, 20:53
Oh, someone please tell me that Col. Clifford "Skip" Day, USAF, was on the manifest....

WoW... serious cross-thread points for that one


I wonder what's the good COL's current status?

CB
18 February 2010, 21:06
... following weeks of ground-based refresher courses ...

OK, I'm just an ole 101st /SF Paratrooper, but taking "weeks of refresher" to make a parachute jump sounds a bit much. We've run a complete BAC in a two week summer camp for the USAR.

Shouldn't these guys need maybe, maybe, a one day/one afternoon pre-jump and then (as they say in the Nike commercials) "Just Do It."

Dirtpuppy
18 February 2010, 21:11
"Two years ago, Al Anbar province was considered too dangerous to conduct training jumps...
...according to 1st Sgt. Scott Thomas of Company C, 1st Battalion, 504th Parachute Infantry Regiment. His paratroopers will participate in the second of three training jumps."

I wouldn't go that far, 5th ANGLICO and 1st Recon were conducting training jumps on Al Asad at DZ Recon during that timeframe. I conducted my SF-10 transition course with 1st Recon on that DZ in Nov/Dec 08 and Recon had been jumping out there before we showed up to tag along. Some of those young Marines got 20+ jumps during their package, both C-130 and MV-22 platforms.

82nd AB (I believe) did a training jump in 2004 at Al Asad when I was there.

SOTB
18 February 2010, 21:21
OK, I'll ask....What do Iraqi jump wings look like?Well, I saw the Flickr photo, but I would have thought they looked like a person spread-eagle jumping, with no chute, and with the inscription
إن شاء الله....

8Ball
18 February 2010, 21:22
OK, I'm just an ole 101st /SF Paratrooper, but taking "weeks of refresher" to make a parachute jump sounds a bit much. We've run a complete BAC in a two week summer camp for the USAR.

Shouldn't these guys need maybe, maybe, a one day/one afternoon pre-jump and then (as they say in the Nike commercials) "Just Do It."

Yep. Refresher for me when I went back to Bragg was 1 day. And, not even a full one at that... Stand in the door, show me a PLF, slip right... Shit, you're good.:smile:

Dirtpuppy
18 February 2010, 21:26
Well, I saw the Flickr photo, but I would have thought they looked like a person spread-eagle jumping, with no chute, and with the inscription
إن شاء الله....

God willing. My second semester of Arabic is paying off!

CDRODA396
18 February 2010, 21:31
OK, I'm just an ole 101st /SF Paratrooper, but taking "weeks of refresher" to make a parachute jump sounds a bit much. We've run a complete BAC in a two week summer camp for the USAR.

Shouldn't these guys need maybe, maybe, a one day/one afternoon pre-jump and then (as they say in the Nike commercials) "Just Do It."

I was in 1st Brigade, 82nd back in the Big One...yeah, Desert Shield/Storm. We got to Saudi the second week, maybe third, of August. So by December they made the brigade run refresher in the event our skillz were needed after the start of the new year.

So, they culled the Black Hats back from their units and ran five or six 2 day JM refreshers. Then they ran a two day BAR for each rifle company...and then another weeks worth for all the support units that didnt go through with the rifle companies (FO, medics, etc. all went through with their platoon's, etc.)

During that time all we were doing was local area training and occasional range training. I could see how this could easily be drug out for weeks if they are conducting combat patrols at the same time.

At the time we all knew we'd be good to go if they just gave us the word, but figured the Black Hats all needed a break from real Army life and convinced someone it would be a good idea:biggrin:! (just kiddin') I dont know if the other two brigades followed suit or not?

USMC_ANGLICO
18 February 2010, 21:37
82nd AB (I believe) did a training jump in 2004 at Al Asad when I was there.

Yeah, I knew we weren't doing anything super high speed by getting the transition done. I had heard the same thing in 04 also, we were trying to get permissive jump orders to get current during that deployment too. Not so much though...

Senior D
18 February 2010, 21:46
82nd AB (I believe) did a training jump in 2004 at Al Asad when I was there.

Yep, 2004. It may have been at Al Asad, no idea though. We were in Fallujah so that makes sense.

The guys that jumped got to go as a reward for re-enlisting.:rolleyes: Maybe it was just me but in that AO in 2004 I would have thought combat ops would have taken precedence over a meaningless jump.

Dirtpuppy
18 February 2010, 21:52
Yep, 2004. It may have been at Al Asad, no idea though. We were in Fallujah so that makes sense.

The guys that jumped got to go as a reward for re-enlisting.:rolleyes: Maybe it was just me but in that AO in 2004 I would have thought combat ops would have taken precedence over a meaningless jump.

I remember the scuttlebutt around the base was just that, a dog and pony. Whether it was true nor not, I dont know.

Max Power
18 February 2010, 22:37
Ditto what Senior D said.

USMC_ANGLICO
18 February 2010, 22:48
Senior D - exactly what our CO said. Then we went to stand guard outside a ballot warehouse for a week, outstanding use of an asset!

paratroop77
19 February 2010, 06:34
OK, I'm just an ole 101st /SF Paratrooper, but taking "weeks of refresher" to make a parachute jump sounds a bit much. We've run a complete BAC in a two week summer camp for the USAR.

Shouldn't these guys need maybe, maybe, a one day/one afternoon pre-jump and then (as they say in the Nike commercials) "Just Do It."

YUP.

C1518D
19 February 2010, 16:28
I was a safety on the 2004 jump by the 82nd at Al-Asad. 1st BDE commander jumped out of the 2nd aircraft, Division CG jumped out of the first, I think. That little operation was indeed a canine-equine extravaganza. I can't confirm the thing about re-enlistees getting on the jump, everyone I saw was just a regular paratrooper who managed to make the manifest. I remember when the A/C landed at Al Asad, I was pulling the d-bags (deployment bags, not douchebags for those who don't habla:biggrin:) off the C-130 and first thing I saw was about 15 news camera crews filming from top of one of the old hangers, and the CG might have already been up there. We were told it was a "show of force." More like the 82nd getting some free publicity. This was at the same time that Fallujah and Ramadi were going up in flames and here we are doing a practice jump...bullshit.

Fun facts: F-16s dropped JDAMS when we were ten minutes out (add to the sexy factor for the cameras) whole C-130 shook hard for a second. Neato.

The JM for my door about had a heart attack when the pilot decided to drop some flares while the JM was doing the clear to the rear. Huge flaming fireballs flew about 4 feet in front of him.

The 1st BDE commander decided to set the example and make a "vigorous exit" during JM rehearsal, jumped up and out and slammed his head against the top of the mock door, fell on his ass. You ever seen a whole chalk of jumper laugh their asses off without making a sound?

RGR.Montcalm
19 February 2010, 16:35
I was a safety on the 2004 jump by the 82nd at Al-Asad. 1st BDE commander jumped out of the 2nd aircraft, Division CG jumped out of the first, I think. That little operation was indeed a canine-equine extravaganza. I can't confirm the thing about re-enlistees getting on the jump, everyone I saw was just a regular paratrooper who managed to make the manifest. I remember when the A/C landed at Al Asad, I was pulling the d-bags (deployment bags, not douchebags for those who don't habla:biggrin:) off the C-130 and first thing I saw was about 15 news camera crews filming from top of one of the old hangers, and the CG might have already been up there. We were told it was a "show of force." More like the 82nd getting some free publicity. This was at the same time that Fallujah and Ramadi were going up in flames and here we are doing a practice jump...bullshit.

Fun facts: F-16s dropped JDAMS when we were ten minutes out (add to the sexy factor for the cameras) whole C-130 shook hard for a second. Neato.

The JM for my door about had a heart attack when the pilot decided to drop some flares while the JM was doing the clear to the rear. Huge flaming fireballs flew about 4 feet in front of him.

The 1st BDE commander decided to set the example and make a "vigorous exit" during JM rehearsal, jumped up and out and slammed his head against the top of the mock door, fell on his ass. You ever seen a whole chalk of jumper laugh their asses off without making a sound?

Nothing like white hot magnesium flares floating in the same sky as personnel parachutes...:rolleyes:

Maybe he was related to CSM Richard Cayton- certified poser-(massive cross thread points) that fired parachute flares into the air as men frorm 1/75 parachuted into 29 Palms MCB in 78...

The JM should have choked the fuck out of the fucker that triggered the flares...

Spot379th
20 February 2010, 00:21
God willing. My second semester of Arabic is paying off!

I woulda thought, "Shit, NO VIRGINS!!!"

Senior D
20 February 2010, 00:39
Haha, I remember hearing about the flares but I wasnt sure if it was true or not as I was not on the jump (thank god).:redface:

Did the Iraqis get trained in country or did they go to the US for airborne training?