SLAP sniper rounds?

[ZeroG]

Just read a little article about the superiority of 7.62 SLAP sniper rounds over normal 7.62. Anyone have any personal experience with this kind of ammo and would care to comment on this?

[RifleMaster]

ZEROG,

What is a 7.62 SLAP round?

Carl

[Linus]

Carl;

They're manufactured by Winchester and the swedish 7.62 subcal sniper round is developed from it. Don't remember what SLAP means. "Subcaliber Light Armor Piercing"?

Check this: http://www.fmv.se/index.asp?K=005011004&L=UK

Regarding Winchester, I believe you know more than I do... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

It's a killer. Period. You can't miss. You simply can't.

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[josepy]

I guess that would bring new meaning to "I reach back like a pimp and SLAPPED the Ho".

[Linus]

You bet, Jo: You reach back some seven hudred yds and slap... http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/smile.gif

Carl, this is exactly what I think you were aiming for (ooh, lousy pun!) with the MV discussion: A round as fast as a bat out of hell leaves precious little time for wind and gravity to even know what hit'em (ooh, again!)But to be quite honest I haven't had too much experience with it yet (only fired 10 rds so far...) since they're so expensive (about $1.5/rnd over here) and not issued for training purposes.

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[ZeroG]

SLAP = Sabotted Light Armour Penetrator

The article I read made the round sound like it was somewhat godly.

[JY]

Linus, the SLAP issued here is .50BMG http://www.specialoperations.com/ubboard/eek.gif and it works very well. The only problem with it is you have to be careful if your weapon has a muzzle break, the sabot can become trapped in it.

Take care...Jim

[RifleMaster]

ZEROG and Linus,

Thanks for the info!

Are they steel cored?

The bullet must be fairly light to obtain a high MV without dangerous case pressures. This lighter bullet probably wouldn't have as high of BC as typical (Copper jacket Lead) 7.62mm bullet. Do you know the BC and typical MV?

What barrel twist is normally used with these rounds. Back in the early 90's, some people experimented with very fast .243 Cal. bullets at long range. Several jackets separated from the lead cores in flight. I think this happened because of an incorrect barrel twist.

Linus, Yes, the affect of time of flight was what I wanted to discuss. The higher the MV, the less time gravity and wind have to effect the bullet in flight. Maybe we should discuss some of the trade-offs of high MV!

Take Care!

Carl



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[ZeroG]

I skinned through the article so i forgot what the core was made of, but i think the MV was like 4500fps i think. It was a very high number.
Any cons for this type of round?
I think the standard NATO rounds should be replaced with it.

[671grains_of_diplomacy]

heard somewhere that the 7.62 slap round when tested on the M60 & variants ripped the barrel to shreds! In some cases fracturing the barrel.



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[stephen]

Didn't the Rangers and D-boys have those rounds in Mog? I can't remember which weapons they had them for. It may have just been the fifty cal. I would imagine that it's a very poor anti-personnel round unless the person you're shooting is wearing armor.

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[tactical]

Slap has been a big success in 50 cal but requires a longer chamber to be safe. It is a tungsten penetrator sabot round. In 7.62 the slap failed because of blowing up weapons. Something about jacket seperation. Not an issue round in 7.62 Very mean stuff in 50 and flys flat as can be.

[VMI_Marine]

Are you talking about the crew served weapons in Mogadishu? Because they used the standard military issue green tips in their rifles and SAWs, hence some of the bitching in "Blackhawk Down" about the ineffectiveness of their ammunition on unarmored "sammies".

[Linus]

Carl;

I'll check it out and get back to you, OK? By the way, what's happened to the the MV thread, did everybody just die or what? You been checking in on it lately?

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[Linus]

Carl (and everyone!);

You'll find anything you're looking for here, I think:
http://www.fmv.se/index.asp?K=005011004&L=UK

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[Linus]

Duh, did I post that link already?...

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[RifleMaster]

Hi Linus!

Thanks for the link! Interesting info!

I'm pretty busy now, so I'll have to startup the MV discussion again in a few weeks. Feel free to share your knowledge. None of us know it all! There is always something to learn.

Keep Holding'em Hard!

Carl