Remington 700 series

[jcollettusa]

Did any of you catch the news about the Remington 700 series that was on the other day? I am curious as to what they said, I have been out of town and missed it. I guess it was on the national news and stated something about the safety is malfunctioning or something like that. If you know what they was talking about and the models they are having problems with, I would appreciate it if you would inform me.

[RifleMaster]

jcollettusa,

I decided to delete this post because some could misinterpret what I said.

Carl

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[MCJROTC Commander]

From what I understand, I have'nt seen the news ethier, but people have been saying the safety on the Remington 700 is malfunctioning by: When you place the rifle on safety the firing pin is hitting the primer therefore firing the rifle WHILE IT IS ON SAFETY!! (Not sure how.) I'm not sure what models of the Remington 700 this is referring to, I have a Remington 700 Police DM. But normally the only time I place it on safety is when I'm reloading or when I have it on my gun rack with no rounds in the chamber. I have experienced no problems what so ever with mine. Word is that this is in effect for rifles that have been made about a year ago till now, which would include my rifle but like I said, no problems with mine. Hope this answered your question, take care, Semper Fidelis.

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[JY]

Saw the piece about the Rem 700,the mother stated that her 700 fired as she moved the safety to the fire position striking her son in the abdomin. Hate to make a lady feel bad but to get what she discribed she had to pull the trigger while releasing the safety. This brings us to safe weapons handling, never point it at something you do not want to destroy or kill. Why would she point it at her son and remove the safety????? There is a real second reason this happens, and generally involves someone who doesn't know how to adjust the trigger on a Mod 700 playing gunsmith. This is why they come with the clear sealer on the screws, and why if it's gone it voids the warranty. The Rem. trigger adjustments, if done wrong, can render the weapon unsafe, period. Improper adjustment of sear engagement can result in the weapon firing as the safety is removed, it can happen with the first round chambered or several hundred after. It's unfortunate that this happened, but again why was the rifle pointed at her son in the first place??? Some of the other statements by other "victims" also were rather questionable, one stated his rifle went off while he removed the safety...shooting his thumb off.....ah, how'd he get his thumb to the end of the barrel? Could it again be improper sear engagement and placing the butt on the ground with hand at muzzle jaring the sear??? I take these reports with a very large grain of salt, most will be traced to a loose nut behind the butt plate...operator malfunction. These reports also have to be judged by the source...the media. They demonized semi auto rifles to get bans, hard to say a Remington 700 is a weapon of choice for gangs so why not demonize it by saying its unsafe...we have film at 6, and the twits will all wring their hands and moan about this unsafe weapon from hell...have to ban it for the safety of the children ya know. Remington can come out with proof that the weapon was improperly adjusted and safe firearms handling was not observed, but the damage is done because Dan said it was common with this weapon, the media firearms experts have spoken.

Keep your guard up, these left wingers are even more vicious when they loose.

Take care, my friends...Jim

Sorry for the long tirade...they ticks me off!



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[RifleMaster]

Jim, I totally agree with your above post!

In my above post, I was NOT implying that gun owner's should fix their rifles! They should be repaired by a Manufacturer authorized Gunsmith! In addition, I should have said the wear occurs after heavy heavy use. Most hunters would not cause this amount of wear in a life time. I'm talking about heavy competitive rapid fire over several years!

The best fix for the wear that I mentioned is replace the striker. That is what most Gunsmiths would do.

Always be safe!

Carl

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[jcollettusa]

I appreciate the replies, I have a 700 PSS and I got concernced when a relative of mine informed me that there was something on the news about this rifle. Thanks for the clarification.

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Semper Fi

[Duel Cool]

there has always been a problem with rem 700 safeties.

The problem comes about when someone tries to adjust the Creep and the lbs of pull on the stock remington, the other issue is that sometimes dirt will get inside and lock the sear against the engagement arm, this will casue it to slam fire when disengageing the safety, also wear on the bolt and its gap disance can cause it to hop over the sear.

I nearly took a round on a hunting accident as a young man. because of the same problem.
If you maintain a good cleaning regiment and take the rifle out of the stock on occasion and remove debree, this would not be an issue, also take care in the springs and dont over stretch them.

As far as the Mother Shooting her son in the abdomain, that was poor judgement on her part. All rifles should be treated as loaded and never ever point a barrel at something you do not intend to kill, No such thing as an accident, poor judgement on the part of the mother.

I use winchester actions as well as the rem 702 action that uses the bolt safety that is simular to remington.