verification needed

[Geenie]

Gentlemen,

This semester I'm taking a class with a professor who claims to have been with 2nd Force Recon. He seems like a trustworthy guy, but I'm a little iffy.

According to his resume he served in the Marine Corps for only 5 years, yet claims to have had the following assignments: 2nd ANGLICO, 2nd Force Recon, Advisor to a F.A.S.T. Company, as well as embassy duty. To me, as a layman, this seems like an awful lot of stuff to have accomplished in 5 years.

I'd rather not post his name in the open out of respect for his position, though if someone who can verify his claims could PM me, I would greatly appreciate it.

The reason I ask is not just idle curiosity. He frequently mentions the fact that he served to students and other professors, as well as having special operations listed on his CV, leading me to believe he may be using this to further his professional ambitions.

I sincerely hope I am mistaken, and that he is, in fact, who he says he is, but I would very much like to verify his claims.

[Bravo_One_Three]

WTF is an "Advisor to a FAST Company"? That's actually funny.

Embassy Duty is 36 months duty plus training (no idea how long that is for MSG). You have to be an NCO, so at -LEAST- two years to make rank before you can apply. 6 months Boot Camp and SOI, so that's 42 months and change accounted for out of 60 which leaves him 18 for Force and ANGLICO.

I call BS.

[SOTB]

I also think it looks like BS, but during the mid-80s, I think there were a couple of guys that got dropped from the company and went over to ANGLICO -- if I'm wrong, then my mistake, and I readily admit I have only bad memory to go on.

I think there were a couple of guys that had left the company and hung out with FAST units (IIRC, they were being spun up at about the same time).

Still, 5yrs seems pretty short....

[Geenie]

Gentlemen,

thank you for the input. I also have the feeling that this would be a very tight schedule.

If anyone else could weigh in on this, or has access to the relevant databases, I'd be very grateful.

He's become somewhat of a mentor to me, knowing my ambitions to eventually have a career in the armed forces. Beyond that, I look up to him for his academic ability and would consider writing my final thesis under him. Having this type of relationship with him, I am, of course, disturbed by the idea that he is lying about his service. I would be very disappointed.

[Silverbullet]

Whatever the circumstances it would be impossible for him to have done all that in 5 years unless he was shit canned from unit to unit.

[theWookie]

What years did he serve?

[Dragbag]

I was a Cadre Instructor at F.A.S.T Mare Island and Norfolk what is this guys claim, I don't recall having anyone serving in a advisory role from Force, there were a few of us from recon brought on board to help get the training up and running, but that was the mid 80's pending on the time he served things might have been different, but my bullshit meter is going off and and I think this guy might be overstating his duty assignments.:cool:

[Geenie]

His resume states 1985-1990. That could be off though, I suppose. I never asked him about the dates personally, as I'm not really in a position to challenge him on his claims.
I'd just be really surprised if he were lying. He's held quite a few high profile jobs in politics, as well as working in high level positions at the UN. It would seem that SOMEONE would have questioned his claims by now. But maybe I need to reconsider my paradigms. Is it possible these days to be a public figure, working in politics and on security think tanks and UN secretary positions without being discovered as a poser?

I heard from another student that in a class on leadership he claimed to have "been at Black Hawk Down" in '93. That may be true, but in any case it would have been in the role of a UN guy. However, from what I understand, he made it sound like he was actually "there", as in "in the shit" with the TF Ranger guys and the other blokes who got shot up in the initial blowup and not with the follow up UN force that rolled in.

I'm a wee bit upset, and would definitely like to get it cleared up. As you may be able to tell, I'd definitely like to give him the benefit of the doubt. Is there such a thing as a centralized database with all the names of people who served in FR?
I'd hate to accuse him of posing when perhaps it's just his dates having gotten mixed up on his resume and he, in fact, spent a lot more time in the corps.

[Silverbullet]

there were a few of us from recon brought on board to help get the training up and running, but that was the mid 80's pending on the time he served things might have been different,:

He'd have zero to contribute since he'd still be a boot himself.

Geenie, Send me the guys name and cut and past his bio to a PM. Thanks

[Mortalitus]

WTF is an "Advisor to a FAST Company"?


What you never had mama san laundry ladies in your Barraks?:biggrin:

[N2Narkosis]

Any updates?

[Silverbullet]

Any updates?

Why? What involvement do you have?

[N2Narkosis]

Why? What involvement do you have?

Was just curious. Found the post interesting, since I feel for Geenie. Excuse me as I return to my corner to continue lurking the forums.:eek:

[Xdeth]

I'd just be really surprised if he were lying. He's held quite a few high profile jobs in politics, as well as working in high level positions at the UN. It would seem that SOMEONE would have questioned his claims by now. But maybe I need to reconsider my paradigms. Is it possible these days to be a public figure, working in politics and on security think tanks and UN secretary positions without being discovered as a poser?
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I'm curious, what's his name and where is his bio listing these claims.

[Silverbullet]

I'm in possession of his info and written claims.

He never mentions a MOS and appears to link "special operations" with MSG duty in his bio and then claims ANGLICO to Recon in another. He also makes claims about his time at the UN that could not have happened considering the billet he worked in was basically a pogue billet in NYC.

In my day a good number of comm guys would come over to Recon from ANGLICO. That is entirely possible.

This guys claims are not. Without drilling down into all the facts and revealing things, I'll just use TIS method.

His claim 5 years.

His supporting claims, ANGLICO, Recon, MSG, Advisor to FAST.

Math-
3 months for recruit training

2 months- lv and MOS school

That leaves 4.7 years.

So lets say he went to ANGLICO and spent 2 years which would be the minimum he could spend unless shitcanned.

That leaves 2.7 years.

He's now at a Recon unit and spends 2 years which would be the bare minimum unless injured or shitcanned. Just to get through his schools and one plt would take this long or longer.

That leaves us with 7 months in which he went to MSG school and then served on a few posts. Keep in mind this is a duty station that requires 36 months in addition to the school.

In his own emails he then claims he went on to be an "advisor to FAST company" which indicates this was another duty station not an additional duty. His time misses the start up of FAST anyway and by the time he was around they had their own school house up and running for awhile.

No matter how you run the math the time isn't there for what he claims.

The one point that appears to be accurate is that he was on MSG. It's the only thing he writes about that has the ring of truth or seems accurate.

I'm running his name to give him an extra benefit of the doubt, but math is math even if you slide some months more toward one unit or the other. His method of writing about "combat" appears to be a dead giveaway as well.

We're not posting his name because his "official bio" only says he "served in the USMC (special operations) and the elite MSG............. His emails go into much more detail and make the other outrageous claims.