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nofear
20 September 2010, 05:19
Team,
My new job requires me to normally wear "business attire".

I fucking hate suits / ties, but I can't fight the system. :mad:

What I do need however, is to find some comfortable trousers that can blend into the "business attire" latte-sipping set, whilst letting me store:

- Badge
- Mobile / Cell phone
- Pocket folder knife
- Keys
- Coins / cash / handkerchief
- Spare mag if necessary

...without looking like I'm carry tennis balls in my trouser pockets. The pockets on suit pants aren't designed to carry much gear at all.

Plus I like trousers that won't tear at the first sign of rough wear, and can handle the rigours of a normal washing machine!

I have one pair of the 5.11 covert khakis, and they are perfect. Plenty of leg room and big pockets. But 5.11 don't make them anymore. :frown: Their new covert line is too casual in appearance.

For some reason a pair of Billabong (surf clothing line) also do the job, but they're 7 years old and don't get made anymore either. :rolleyes:

Carhartt doesn't seem to make anything that wouldn't stand out among this crowd.

Cargo-pants are out.

Any ideas?

Guy
20 September 2010, 07:28
Mens Dockers (http://us.dockers.com/shop/index.jsp?categoryId=2271557) have an assortment of styles that work well.:cool:

BTW...make sure you don't go "cheap" on the shoes!

Stay safe.

MikeC2W
20 September 2010, 07:39
That's one reason I like a sport coat or a 'blazer', you've got plenty of pockets and you don't have that tennis ball look. Get a black one it will fit in anywhere and with almost any pant type ---- including jeans for that after hours latte sipping turned martini crowd! LOL

Ecco shoes are awesome. Depending on your budget they might be on the pricey side (140'ish+), but their like wearing fucking Air Nikes. If you're on your feet all day and need a mens dress shoe, this is it... I guess Rockports would do also. I'm tough and shoes and these bad boys seem to last.

Frog
20 September 2010, 08:01
Man purse, AKA softsided briefcase.

JAFO
20 September 2010, 08:25
Desantis makes a good front pocket holster for your BUG. It is specifically made for suit pants/slacks. It is also made from a good gripping material, so your weapon can be drawn without pulling the holster out too. I have one for my Ruger LCP, and no one can tell it's there.

SOTB
20 September 2010, 08:28
You don't state your job, only that you now have to blend in.

IMO, the job may have a lot of influence on what you can (should) wear.

Mens' business attire (read = dress wear) can mean a lot of things, but usually means you are hanging out with people who's daily attire is suit and tie. If this is the case, you may need to go more along the route that Mike states, simply because dress slacks may have to be of the quality and cut that preclude your being able to use khakis (or their variants). If you are going to go to a sales/client meeting, and everyone else is in nice duds -- you'll stand out fairly obvious if you aren't. Nice duds may not have much in the way of storage, and rather be focused on material and brand....

sabasarge
20 September 2010, 09:24
Not sure if these are too casual for your needs, but they are excellent in both fit and overall quality, with ample yet subtle pocket capacity.
http://www.wearvertx.com/VertxMensPant.aspx

MikeC2W
20 September 2010, 09:30
For the Operational Athlete.



I love it.

Gsniper
20 September 2010, 09:40
Winner!

Seriously, I went to mens wearhouse and bought two medium grade suits and had a couple of extra pockets tailored into the inside of the coats. Makes a great place for the stuff you don't want hanging on your bat-belt. Pockets are about 6"x6". I also had some velcro put into two ties right in the back of my neck when they're tied up. Just like a "connector" or break away. Clip on ties look gay, but with these, the velcro is behind you collar, but if somebody gets ahold of your tie, you're not in a shit sandwich.

Nunn-Bush makes a great pair of shoes called gel-lites. bout $75 and extremely comfortable if you have to stand alot.

sabasarge
20 September 2010, 09:48
For the Operational Athlete.

I love it.

Here's another reason, aside from being an excellent product, to shop with these guys. Good people
http://militarytimes.com/blogs/gearscout/2010/04/21/help-vertx-donate-12000-to-adam-brown-memorial-fund/

RGR.Montcalm
20 September 2010, 10:51
Team,

What I do need however, is to find some comfortable trousers that can blend into the "business attire" latte-sipping set, whilst letting me store:

- Badge- over the belt, non carry side- hidden by jacket

- Mobile / Cell phone- normal for just about everyone over 8 years old- carrier on on belt non carry side, forward of slash pocket, attached to belt

- Pocket folder knife- inside waist band, carry side

- Keys- carry only what is necessary- not the 'full jailer's ring' you normally see- get a 'connecting' keychain/strap that allows you to separate them.

- Coins / cash / handkerchief- again normal carry but carry minimum cash in wallet in back pocket- change in front pocket- no more than $1 snot rag in interior jacket pocket

- Spare mag if necessary- back pocket non carry side- or interior pocket of coat on carry side (cross draw)- practice reloading from this carry


The red is my response.

this worked for me when I was required to wear a suit, but travel armed in Central America...

uTTER
20 September 2010, 11:24
Ecco shoes are awesome. Depending on your budget they might be on the pricey side (140'ish+), but their like wearing fucking Air Nikes. If you're on your feet all day and need a mens dress shoe, this is it... I guess Rockports would do also. I'm tough and shoes and these bad boys seem to last.

x2 on the Eccos--for a dress shoe, they are the closest thing to indestructible I have found--though the tread is going to be dress shoe'ish.

MikeC2W
20 September 2010, 11:35
Originally Posted by nofear View Post
Team,

What I do need however, is to find some comfortable trousers that can blend into the "business attire" latte-sipping set, whilst letting me store:

- Badge- over the belt, non carry side- hidden by jacket

- Mobile / Cell phone- normal for just about everyone over 8 years old- carrier on on belt non carry side, forward of slash pocket, attached to belt

- Pocket folder knife- inside waist band, carry side

- Keys- carry only what is necessary- not the 'full jailer's ring' you normally see- get a 'connecting' keychain/strap that allows you to separate them.

- Coins / cash / handkerchief- again normal carry but carry minimum cash in wallet in back pocket- change in front pocket- no more than $1 snot rag in interior jacket pocket

- Spare mag if necessary- back pocket non carry side- or interior pocket of coat on carry side (cross draw)- practice reloading from this carry


The red is my response.

this worked for me when I was required to wear a suit, but travel armed in Central America...


Only batman wears a utility belt! :biggrin: My roommate said that too me once as we were fixing to head out the door in search of wimminz, apparently it looks dorkish! Although if you're sporting a blazer you're good to go as no one can see what's on your belt!

That is exactly how and where I carry my spare mags though. ;)

RGR.Montcalm
20 September 2010, 13:10
Only batman wears a utility belt! :biggrin: My roommate said that too me once as we were fixing to head out the door in search of wimminz, apparently it looks dorkish! Although if you're sporting a blazer you're good to go as no one can see what's on your belt!

That is exactly how and where I carry my spare mags though. ;)

Proof that great minds think alike...;):biggrin:

nofear
20 September 2010, 17:38
Some good info there guys, thank you.

Can't display my badge all the time. Apparently it scares people.

We're coming into summer here, which = HOT, so the blazer / jacket option is only really workable a few months of the year. I like the tailoring idea though, and I know the perfect woman for the job.

Vertx - Already have a pair. Have thought about seeing if they would blend in, but might wait until the boss is on leave first.

Guy - Thanks for the link.

Keys - Handcuff key only. Hell, I don't even carry a wallet on me. That's in my day bag.

Holster - No choice allowed here. We can only wear what we're issued.

RGR.Montcalm - I like your idea on the knife. But a phone carrier? I feel gay just reading that. ;-)

Shoes....Have been looking into that. Thanks for the links.

EarthPig
20 September 2010, 17:41
Damn...maybe we need the Admins to create a Fashion forum. Be sure not to mix stripes with plaids.:eek:

RLTW
EP

AustinPT
21 September 2010, 06:40
LA Police Gear still has the 5.11 covert khakis. They're on close out for $9.99.

Scotty
21 September 2010, 09:35
I'm a dealer for Kroll Industries, they have lots of variety, let me know and I'll hook you up.

As for me, I'd go Banana Republic all the way. Be THAT officer! Hell, it's like Garanimals for men, everything in there matches. You'll just look a little metro...

Scotty

SOTB
21 September 2010, 09:40
As for me, I'd go Banana Republic all the way. Be THAT officer! Hell, it's like Garanimals for men, everything in there matches. You'll just look a little metro....I'm trying to imagine someone like RAT dressed head-to-toe (minus shoes) in BR clothing. I'm almost certain it would be on the opposite end of the spectrum from him wearing '70s polyester suits -- but with EXACTLY the same effect.:biggrin:

Edited to add that after the intro of the Vertx trousers, I had planned to stay out of the thread -- it had no serious purpose anymore -- but Scotty's post was simply too good....:tongue:

Scotty
21 September 2010, 10:22
Knowing RAT like I do, I know he has a dapper side and could pull it off... but then would probably jump off the rail of a sea-side restaurant into the drink for the hell of it and ruin them!

For a sveldt ladykiller like myself, it's great for business-casual. :biggrin:

Edited to note - I'd love to see GUY MUTHAFUGGIN' JONES in BR. I think he would instantly turn into Billy Dee Williams in a smooth-ass Colt 45 ad. Smooooooooth.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_xNO59OxlB8I/Rw2QPsKth_I/AAAAAAAABNY/bHn6I5Nj6xI/s1600/billy%2Bdee%2Bwilliams,%2Bcolt%2B45,%2B2.jpg

MixedLoad
21 September 2010, 10:24
Seriously...don't ever "wear" your cellphone. It doesn't matter if you look like you just stepped out of a Brooks Brothers catalogue, you'll look like a tool.

Same thing with guys who wear nice suits and then cheap square toed shoes from Aldo's. Don't do it.

BR is a good starting point. As is Macy's. You can also find some nice things at Nordstrom Rack's if there is one where you live.

Esquire releases an publication twice a year called The Big Black Book (https://m1.buysub.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/BigBlackBookView?catalogId=10301&storeId=10301&categoryId=70287&sourcekey=BBB0310001)

It's the best ten bucks you'll spend if you're confused about what you can and cannot wear.

MikeC2W
21 September 2010, 10:41
I'm a dealer for Kroll Industries, they have lots of variety, let me know and I'll hook you up.

As for me, I'd go Banana Republic all the way. Be THAT officer! Hell, it's like Garanimals for men, everything in there matches. You'll just look a little metro...

Scotty


A little metro is you bought one of their shirts, if you buy all your clothes their you simply look like a fucking HOMO! Not that there's anything wrong with that. Don't forget your euro scarf for those cool mid summers in Manhattan... WTF? I don't understand the euro scarf at all??? Guy, clue me in bro.

All anyone needs is a damn tan pair of dress pants, a blue, a white and another fucking white shirt with a black jacket and some ecco shoes. You've just covered every base and you can go anywhere.

Now me personally, a couple of hugo boss suits never hurt, but if you're going a bit more conservative a nice pin stripe from Brooks Brothers. I'm sure DH and Kirk will be along soon to talk about their tailored suits out of London proper. But seriously who's got 15hundo to spend on a piece of shit english suit? LOL Otherwise just go to J. Banks - and please no fucking pleats, although I have some left over from the 80's and early 90's.

Now where is that fashion forum? I've got some more to add for the Operational Athlete in all of us.


And Nomad is dead on, the only time a phone on the belt is cool is when it's next to a gun....and that's only because who's going to say your uncool when you gots a gun? That actually goes for anything on your belt. And who the fuck wears shoe's from aldo's besides Scotty? I know it's right next to BR, but come on Man!

Just get yourself a fanny pack for all that extra shit! LMAO

Scotty
21 September 2010, 10:50
Honestly, BR is the staple of my banking closet. I'm not into their loud "hello th'ailor" pinks and shit, but they're higher quality than Dockers (which is great for more manual/blue-collar" dress, they're on par with Brooks Bros and J.A. Banks, and a little cheaper in most cases. I don't own the "euro scarf" (yet) but I'll let you buy it for me in December for my bday! LOL

I do have a lot of Hugo Boss too, I can't beat their products for both style and quality.

I also agree with the whole "nice suit/outfit with cheap shoes" disdain. Bass, Bostonian, even Kenneth Cole (huge anti-gun company) make some great quality shoes that go with a suit and won't make it look like you got donated to from Goodwill.

I nominate myself as SOCNET metrosexual for moderator of the fashion forum! LOL Or Sharky, I've seen him Ricky Martin out more than once. Mike, for such a midget can pull off a suit too. Even if he does get me out of more relationships than a weeping STD and lipstick on the collar.

Scotty

Local
21 September 2010, 11:32
Cole han actually uses Nike air soles in their dress shoes.

My pair have withstood everything from Boston night life to riding the motorcycle to work and still look good.

They are pricey.... but how many times do you want to buy a pair of black dress shoes?

- Local

Lannister
21 September 2010, 12:00
For high end...
Miguel Caballero (http://www.miguelcaballerousa.com/index.php/bulletproof-clothing-products-categories.html)

Otherwise you could try:

Bullet 50 (http://bullet50store.com/pants.aspx)

EOTAC (http://www.eotac.com/)

MikeC2W
21 September 2010, 13:16
Easier to carry a weapon with a Brooks Brothers (off the rack) suit, they are more 'box-ie' where as european types are more fitted.

Know your audience and dress accordingly. :) You might need a man purse. LOL Scotty has a bunch and can tell which color for which occasion.

Fubar
21 September 2010, 14:08
It is awfully effen hilarious to read about you guys getting your fashion on..... gay (not that there is anything wrong with that) but funny nonetheless....

Looon
21 September 2010, 14:23
Yes this thread is very gay in a gay way.

I don't do fashion tips, but since this thread is so gay, I'll give you this tip: Get a Batman untility belt.

Next thing you know, someone is going to post a pic of themselves and ask "do these pants make my butt look big?"

RGR.Montcalm
21 September 2010, 14:24
Seriously...don't ever "wear" your cellphone. It doesn't matter if you look like you just stepped out of a Brooks Brothers catalogue, you'll look like a tool...


Personally, mine goes in my pocket, either front left or jacket right (shooting side for 'crossdraw';):biggrin:

Funny you mention J.A. Bank- just bought a suit there- my grand daughter told me I looked 'spiffy':biggrin:

MikeC2W
21 September 2010, 14:30
J.A. Bank in my view does a great job for a fairly low price.

Loon... yOu're gay.

Lannister
21 September 2010, 15:10
Clamshelled phones... OK.
Otherwise... putting $500-$800 touchscreen cellphones in your pants pockets makes NO sense to anyone but the phone retailers... because that cracked/scratched touchscreen isn't warranteed... unless you paid extra

But hey... your $$$

YMMV

Lannister

Spinner
21 September 2010, 15:10
Hell, it's like Garanimals for men...

Speaking only for myself, I could use a clothing line like that. I have no fashion sense whatsoever. Anything that looks decent is only because some female picked it out.

Maybe nofear needs to go on a suit trapping expedition upriver... :biggrin:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3zJTNOxV4Qg

nofear
21 September 2010, 17:40
LA Police Gear still has the 5.11 covert khakis. They're on close out for $9.99.

I'm a 36 waist. None left. Had already checked.



Fanny-packs...gay. The latte-sippers would point fingers at me an giggle. And rightly so.

JAFO
21 September 2010, 18:43
Forget the 5.11 pants. They must tailor those things to a bean pole. Not that I'm a big guy (36W, 32L), but there is no hip movement in those things. Their shorts are G2G though.

As for suits, I hit Macy's about a month ago for 2 Calvin Klein suits (1 black, one charcoal). I was out the door for less than six bills, including same day tailoring. They fit well, and the jacket doesn't ride up the sleeves when sitting.

Trig
21 September 2010, 18:47
Express and Banana has some nice suits and slacks. Stay away from pleated pants,...they are a thing of the past. Flat-Fronts are the way to go.

MixedLoad
21 September 2010, 18:47
If you're going to buy nice clothes...scratch all that 5.11 style bullshit.

Gsniper
21 September 2010, 18:51
Glock and 5.11's or.........................

JAFO
21 September 2010, 19:19
Did you just advocate a Walther PPK or a tux as attire?:eek:

Just get a tuxedo t-shirt, some denim shorts, a pair of black crew socks, some flip flops and a Hi-Point 9mm. When someone tries to attack you for being a freaky geek, you can use the Hi-Point to club them to death. Don't forget to point it sideways first. "Kill shot! Kill shot!"::biggrin:

Jimbo
21 September 2010, 19:19
Wild Bill Donovan was wearing Brooks Brothers trousers while conducting the actions for which he was awarded the Medal of Honor.

If they are good enough in trench warfare for the father of modern American special operations...

MikeC2W
21 September 2010, 20:12
Wild Bill Donovan was wearing Brooks Brothers trousers while conducting the actions for which he was awarded the Medal of Honor.

If they are good enough in trench warfare for the father of modern American special operations...


Game, set, match.

You ALL have your answer.

Thank you Jimbo. I'm glad we can agree on something, not easy considering your Marxist view of the world and love for bearded men.

:biggrin:

24/7
21 September 2010, 20:15
OK, I looked, suckered me in. It's GAY.

Massgrunt
21 September 2010, 23:09
Looking like you know how to dress yourself isn't gay. Showing up in brown shoes and a black belt is like showing up in fucked up cammies or with crooked ribbons.

Forget about the fact that chicks don't like guys in combat boots and jean shorts. Showing up looking like an idiot says that you either don't care or lack situational awareness. That's just the way it is. Nobody's advocating capri pants or murses. :biggrin:

MacDuff
21 September 2010, 23:11
Nobody's advocating murses. :biggrin:


Scotty?

:biggrin:

Massgrunt
21 September 2010, 23:20
Nobody straight? :biggrin:

ktek01
21 September 2010, 23:21
You need to dress well enough to blend in with the client, but not so well that they will think they are paying you too much. ;)

Lannister
21 September 2010, 23:23
OR so well that they think YOU are the targ... umm I mean client... ;)

nofear
21 September 2010, 23:42
You need to dress well enough to blend in with the client, but not so well that they will think they are paying you too much. ;)

I'm with the Federal Govt...everyone knows we're getting paid too much.

Except my wife that is...

Scotty
22 September 2010, 00:08
Scotty?

:biggrin:

Sorry, I can't go for that. I never liked a fanny pack and I can't, in good conscience, support a murse. I'm even leary of those sling-over "courier" pouches. Ghey.

You need more room, carry a computer bag or a man's backpack. At least the computer bag will carry a small automatic weapon unnoticed.

Scotty

Guy
22 September 2010, 01:39
Forget about the fact that chicks don't like guys in combat boots and jean shorts. Showing up looking like an idiot says that you either don't care or lack situational awareness. That's just the way it is. Nobody's advocating capri pants or murses. :biggrin:I had to actually look up what a "murse" was.:eek:
http://www.thefader.com/ys_assets/0006/5594/murse_2.jpg

Stay safe.

SOTB
22 September 2010, 07:30
I'm even leary of those sling-over "courier" pouches. Ghey.

You need more room, carry a computer bag or a man's backpack. At least the computer bag will carry a small automatic weapon unnoticed....The current "rage" in a certain LATAM country is a courier bag with a MP5 stuffed inside....

Scotty
22 September 2010, 08:38
LOL, certainly the application of an MP5 into a courier bag makes it only slightly LESS ghey, but it would still be more manly in a computer bag. Of course, in certain LATAM countries, the computer bag makes you a target for banditos, whereas the courier bag may make you a target for las mariposas.

Scotty

SOTB
22 September 2010, 08:50
Personally, I find the carrying of a large pistol under the guise of it being a long gun to be VERY GAY. Rather than do all of that, if the only thing I could carry was a 9mm, I'd lobby for Glocks and then grab one of the various stock contraptions.

That way I could make everything smaller, allowing for carrying more ammo and poguey-baitin the same-sized (or smaller) bag. Oh, and a netbook or iPad, as well -- for surfing the internet from either a Starbucks or hijacking someone's wireless....

RGR.Montcalm
22 September 2010, 09:53
Clamshelled phones... OK.
Otherwise... putting $500-$800 touchscreen cellphones in your pants pockets makes NO sense to anyone but the phone retailers... because that cracked/scratched touchscreen isn't warranteed... unless you paid extra

But hey... your $$$

YMMV

Lannister

My touchscreen has the 'screen protectors' installed and a hard shell plastic overcase- non carry side, front pocket, screen facing out and locked, and it's the only thing in the pocket, unless it is folding bills-

yeah, I'm THAT anal about how I put it in my pocket

EarthPig
22 September 2010, 10:09
My touchscreen has the 'screen protectors' installed and a hard shell plastic overcase- non carry side, front pocket, screen facing out and locked, and it's the only thing in the pocket, unless it is folding bills-

yeah, I'm THAT anal about how I put it in my pocket
My iphone has aps on it that turn it into a .45 Glock, an MP5, a steamer iron, a hair comb, a shoe shine buffer, a navy blue blazer, a microwave, and a manpurse. I basically just bring my phone and a good set of boots wherever I go.:biggrin:

RLTW
EP

Massgrunt
22 September 2010, 11:22
[CENTER]I had to actually look up what a "murse" was.:eek:

I was changing planes in Paris the other day and there was a dude walking around in a suit with the legs ending around his shins. This, my friends, is why we won all our wars in Europe.

Ranger1
22 September 2010, 11:31
Overalls, the only way to go.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-UYcR2tEs

...go past the 2 minute mark, it's worth it.
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0-UYcR2tEs)

ARCH-E
22 September 2010, 12:00
Nothing says dolt like a poorly fitting suit or mismatched items-- oddly, some of you have mentioned the black suit. I've always been told that a black suit is really only appropriate for funerals or weddings. My banker buddies scoff at the thought of a black suit and that it makes you look like "Sunday's Best" in a business setting.

KidA
22 September 2010, 12:17
wear a nice suit, hire a midget to carry all your stuff, when shit hits the fan you can wear the midget like a backpack and haul ass if necessary. Your ruck skills are still up to par, right?

MikeC2W
22 September 2010, 12:18
Concur, if you're going to buy a suit or a jacket... get the fucker tailored.

Scotty
22 September 2010, 12:18
Shit, if you do it right the midget acts like a turret and cover fires for you!

Scotty

N2Narkosis
22 September 2010, 12:24
wear a nice suit, hire a midget to carry all your stuff, when shit hits the fan you can wear the midget like a backpack and haul ass if necessary. Your ruck skills are still up to par, right?

Oh man, this mental image is PRICELESS!!!

ARCH-E
22 September 2010, 12:28
Concur, if you're going to buy a suit or a jacket... get the fucker tailored.

I've watched (well qualified) post-doc candidates interview and surprisingly, even academics will say "That suit looked like it came from Sears..." :eek: Not surpisingly, people will not hire you over shit like that.

KidA
22 September 2010, 12:44
I've watched (well qualified) post-doc candidates interview and surprisingly, even academics will say "That suit looked like it came from Sears..." :eek: Not surpisingly, people will not hire you over shit like that.

yeah we had a GS-14 at the Navy (former Master Chief) who always insisted on wearing suits and going to meetings with a jacket.

I would just wear nicely cut pants and shirts (some with cufflinks) and a nice tie sometimes paired with braces. I never spend too much (I shop a lot at TJMaxx and Marshalls - why pay $120 for a pair of Ralph Lauren pants when I can get them there for $20?). In summer I have a few seersucker suits and spectator shoes.

Not sat. to him.

Meanwhile his suit cost $45 off the rack at Burlington Coat Factory and hung on him like a burlap sack. Didn't matter. In his mind he was dressed to the 9s because he was in a suit, and I was inappropriate despite looking dashing and dapper, as is my custom.

Dick.

KidA
22 September 2010, 12:49
Oh man, this mental image is PRICELESS!!!


Hell you know Tattoo would have been straped with all sorts of PDAs, cell phones, etc for Mr. Roarke had they existed at the time. I've got no doubts the little fucker was carrying extra mags and could pop smoke if asked.

ARCH-E
22 September 2010, 13:12
Meanwhile his suit cost $45 off the rack at Burlington Coat Factory and hung on him like a burlap sack. Didn't matter. In his mind he was dressed to the 9s because he was in a suit, and I was inappropriate despite looking dashing and dapper, as is my custom.

Dick.

:rolleyes: Sounds like every fat-ass civilian I ever worked with while AD. Usually in the form you describe, but with a tractor spare tire and a sport coat that could double as a GP Medium. Add a tie with a samurai on it and an oversized Covey planner for full-effect.

MikeC2W
22 September 2010, 13:33
Let's be honest, there's really only one good way to go to work...and that's sitting in your home office with your dog guarding the entrance!!!!

The wife often wonders why all I have is suits and fucked up jeans and t-shirt....nothing 'inbetween' to you use her words...

JAFO
22 September 2010, 13:42
At least you have a spare mag ready to go.

MikeC2W
22 September 2010, 13:46
If the dog don't get ya, I can always throw that at ya!

MikeC2W
22 September 2010, 13:46
Hey Sharky, recognize that desk bro!? hahahaha

Scotty
22 September 2010, 14:33
When did you get a short sleeve? Looks cool. I'm in the midldle of getting mine done. Should have it finished next month

MixedLoad
22 September 2010, 14:40
When did you get a short sleeve? Looks cool. I'm in the midldle of getting mine done. Should have it finished next month

Half sleeves are the way to go. We should start a new thread.

MikeC2W
22 September 2010, 14:42
When did you get a short sleeve? Looks cool. I'm in the midldle of getting mine done. Should have it finished next month


Got it a couple of years ago, in design phase for the next... either finishing it with a full sleeve or putting something on the other arm. I've got a old Ranger tat from 92' that needs some fixin up...

The only thing one needs to know - just where sleeves. :cool:

Fubar
22 September 2010, 15:11
Looking like you know how to dress yourself isn't gay. Showing up in brown shoes and a black belt is like showing up in fucked up cammies or with crooked ribbons.

Forget about the fact that chicks don't like guys in combat boots and jean shorts. Showing up looking like an idiot says that you either don't care or lack situational awareness. That's just the way it is. Nobody's advocating capri pants or murses. :biggrin:

Not disputing the fact that a well dressed man travels in circles that the Burlington Coat Factory crowd do not..... but a day later, this thread is still gay. Anyone remember queer eye for the staight guy?

If one does not know how to dress, pick up "Dress for Success" and other books like it. Please don't go Metro on us.

Scotty
22 September 2010, 15:35
Half sleeves are the way to go. We should start a new thread.

You ask for it, you got it... Lounged it. Tat thread.

http://www.socnet.com/showthread.php?p=1357814#post1357814

Scotty

Massgrunt
22 September 2010, 16:18
I've got a old Ranger tat from 92' that needs some fixin up...
You're getting an eagle, globe and anchor over it? :cool:

Timely thread, I have a job interview tomorrow. Now I'm paranoid!

nofear
22 September 2010, 17:54
If one does not know how to dress, pick up "Dress for Success" and other books like it. Please don't go Metro on us.

It was started for advice on what is the best clothing for blending in with the latte crowd while still being able to carry "tools of the trade". I've been wearing boots and cargo pants for so long I'm a lost little boy when it comes to business clothes.


I spoke to the office midget....she wasn't impressed with the midget death-dealing-turret idea. :frown:

Need a new midget... :mad:

Fubar
22 September 2010, 19:44
I know. I'm teasing anyway & should not be taken seriously about the "gay" comments. To succeed, one must dress the part & the only way to do that is to have knowledge of what's appropriate. You asked the right question.

Start off with a well tailored suit if you can afford it. Proper tailoring will help hide your technical equipment (Not that equipment). It helps to wear the gear when you are getting fitted.

If you can't afford much, buy quality over quantity. Stay away from man-made fabrics and cheap shoes. Lots of good advice in the thread.

nofear
22 September 2010, 20:07
If you can't afford much, buy quality over quantity.

Dammit... I wanted a different midget for each day of the week. :tongue:

Fire-Gunner
22 September 2010, 21:31
It's a satchel. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iuygRWVwuUI)

KidA
23 September 2010, 10:17
Timely thread, I have a job interview tomorrow. Now I'm paranoid!


I don't think the hiring committee for the trash picking detail cares much what you wear. :eek:

Good luck in your interview. I hate the damned things.

ARCH-E
23 September 2010, 10:35
You're getting an eagle, globe and anchor over it? :cool:

Timely thread, I have a job interview tomorrow. Now I'm paranoid!

A guy said to me one time after an interview "Listen, all they really want to know is how many inches can you stuff down your throat."

Go get 'em tiger!

Red81
23 September 2010, 20:50
L.A. Police Gear has the Tactical Covert Khakis (by 5.11) for about ten bucks a pair - it's a closeout, so that won't be available for long. I ordered three pairs a few months ago and was very happy with the entire thing, from price to shipping to quality.

Old_Starlight
23 September 2010, 21:00
Fanny-packs...gay. The latte-sippers would point fingers at me an giggle. And rightly so.

Shhh...don't look now mate, but some of us non-latte sippers are already :tongue:;)

Will call soon to catch up.

nofear
24 September 2010, 00:10
Shhh...don't look now mate, but some of us non-latte sippers are already :tongue:;)


Those with Kevlar beards are allowed to. ;)

nofear
24 September 2010, 00:11
L.A. Police Gear has the Tactical Covert Khakis (by 5.11) for about ten bucks a pair - it's a closeout, so that won't be available for long. I ordered three pairs a few months ago and was very happy with the entire thing, from price to shipping to quality.

You have to be anorexic or obese to get the ones that are left. All the man-sizes were sold out ages ago. I think I got the last pair of 36 waists...

Guy
24 September 2010, 00:33
From my time in the military.:cool:

EDDIE BAUER "wrinkle" resistant shirts (http://www.eddiebauer.com/EB/Men/Shirts/Wrinkle-Resistant-Shirts/index.cat)

I don't wear "short" sleeves because of a natural tan, gets hot as hell standing in direct sunlight and you never know when a lil elbow protection/low-crawling scenario may arise.;)

Stay safe.

MikeC2W
24 September 2010, 07:02
From my time in the military.:cool:

EDDIE BAUER "wrinkle" resistant shirts (http://www.eddiebauer.com/EB/Men/Shirts/Wrinkle-Resistant-Shirts/index.cat)

I don't wear "short" sleeves because of a natural tan, gets hot as hell standing in direct sunlight and you never know when a lil elbow protection/low-crawling scenario may arise.;)

Stay safe.


Concur from a business standpoint as well. The only time I have ever worn a short sleeved shirt is when it's hot as hell out AND I'm wearing some type of sport coat and the coat never came off during client meetings.

Guy, I never thought about it from the Operational Athlete point of view, great information! :biggrin:

Guy
24 September 2010, 07:17
Guy, I never thought about it from the Operational Athlete point of view, great information! :biggrin:Operational athlete my ass! Many of times we've stood out there in "direct" sunlight baking like potato chips just waiting & observing.;)

Stay safe.

MikeC2W
24 September 2010, 07:28
Operational athlete my ass! Many of times we've stood out there in "direct" sunlight baking like potato chips just waiting & observing.;)

Stay safe.


Baking like potato chips, I like it.

But don't be shy, you've earned the title! Athletic Operator!

KidA
24 September 2010, 10:16
You have to be anorexic or obese to get the ones that are left. All the man-sizes were sold out ages ago. I think I got the last pair of 36 waists...

I went to a 36 and said to myself - holy fuck I'm a fatass - now I'm back to a 34 ;)

JAFO
24 September 2010, 10:33
I recall my weight when I joined was 133lbs @ 5'9", with a 29 in waist. I am now 5'10" and my waist size...well it matches my age:eek: Thanks God for elastic waist bands, cause my mid-section changes like the tides!

KidA
24 September 2010, 10:48
I recall my weight when I joined was 133lbs @ 5'9", with a 29 in waist. I am now 5'10" and my waist size...well it matches my age:eek: Thanks God for elastic waist bands, cause my mid-section changes like the tides!

When I joined at 18 I was about 145 at 6'2" - now I'm 185 at 6'2" - still got a bit of a belly but that's the only place I carry any extra fats. I put on bulk while in, but not too much - just better posture, etc, etc.

I bought a suit at the exchange in Quantico in 1998 for a job interview in DC. I can still fit in it ;)

Fubar
24 September 2010, 18:27
I bought a suit at the exchange in Quantico in 1998 for a job interview in DC. I can still fit in it ;)

Dick :biggrin:

nofear
24 September 2010, 19:29
I went to a 36 and said to myself - holy fuck I'm a fatass - now I'm back to a 34 ;)

fucker..

Frog
24 September 2010, 19:48
Guy, I never thought about it from the Operational Athlete point of view, great information! :biggrin:

If you can't be an Operational Athlete, at least be an Athletic Supporter.

gadget
25 September 2010, 09:02
Ecco shoes are awesome. Depending on your budget they might be on the pricey side (140'ish+), but their like wearing fucking Air Nikes. If you're on your feet all day and need a mens dress shoe, this is it... I guess Rockports would do also. I'm tough and shoes and these bad boys seem to last.

Cole Haan shoes. Cole Haan was bought by Nike several years ago. Many of their shoes have now incorporated the "Air Nike" technology.....so they really are Air Nike's. Many outlet malls have Cole Haan stores and you can pick-up pretty good deals.

SOTB
25 September 2010, 09:36
I went to a 36 and said to myself - holy fuck I'm a fatass - now I'm back to a 34....Ditto -- exactly ditto (between multiple road trips, I sometimes make it to 33)....

Massgrunt
25 September 2010, 23:36
Ditto -- exactly ditto (between multiple road trips, I sometimes make it to 33)....
Back down to 34s being loose. I wish I could blame aging but it's just poor habits.

Ranger275
25 September 2010, 23:52
If your waist size is more than your inseam, you need to find your way to the gym. :biggrin:

MikeC2W
26 September 2010, 08:16
I can fit into my old cammies still.....although they might be a bit tight.


Cole Haan, never liked them all that much. The Nike ones are cool though.

MikeC2W
26 September 2010, 08:17
If you can't be an Operational Athlete, at least be an Athletic Supporter.

:smile:

Nice catch, that was my implication! Lol

RGR.Montcalm
28 September 2010, 16:52
If your waist size is more than your inseam, you need to find your way to the gym. :biggrin:

What about us short legged/ long waisted fuckers?

I haven't worn anything the same size or smaller than my insean since Ranger School when I lost 35 pounds- and didn't have it to lose back then...