Medic Training

[Joemac]

I posted this in the Special Forces room then shortly realized I should have posted it in here. I am very interested in the SF medic course. From all that I have read it sounds to be extremely challenging. If I went to college to become an RN or something along those lines would that make the course a little less straining on me? any help is appreciated.
thanks
Joe

[Joemac]

guess not to many people stumble in to this room.

[Kolt]

Hi,

Nope, not too many.

As far as the RN thing goes, you are better of going the Paramedic route.

Study up on Vetrinary medicine and dental also as both of those are part of the 18D course as well as lab work.

Of course the medical training involved in 18D is much more involved than Paramedic training, but you will take the NREMT-P course/test as part of the 18D course so you will be ahead in that respect. BUT, the big thing about the paramedic training is al of the runs/calls to prepare you by giving you experience.

Hope this helps.

Kolt

[Joemac]

I am not to familiar with the route taken to get a paremedics license. Is it a college course, or just a course you sign up for? Do you know of any where I might be able to write to to get a good deal of info?
Thanks
Joe

[Kolt]

It's run by the county that you are involved in.

It's different for every county.

the normal route is to go through an EMT-B (Basic) course, then EMT-I (Intermediate) course, then on to the EMT-P (paramedic)course.

Some community colleges offer the basic couse for a good price. It depends what area you are in.


Look at the other message in this forum called 'Ditch Medicine' posted by Ursula I wrote more on this topic in that thread.

Kolt

[starlight1]

Joemac

I think Kolt is right. I have just joined the Canadian Armed Forces as a medic and I have been working for 2 years as a civilian paramedic. RN training does not focus on field work. I would recommend getting as many "field" related courses in as possible, such as EMT/PARAMEDIC, lifeguarding, wilderness first aid. I have found pretty much any courses that focus on emergency skills in outdoor or difficult environments to be very helpful.
Cheers.

[Joemac]

do you know if taking a paremedic course could count as college credits for the army??
thanks for all your help so far
Joe

[MARK92A]

All,

For what it is worth, all 91B's (soon to be 91W's I belive) here at Ft Hood go thru the Texas EMT program. I'll ask them and see if they get college credits for it.. I think they do. I know it counts as promotion points..

[FNG]

starlight1: Can a person who is not a paramedic get EMT training? If so, where are some good places to go and what sort of prerequisite, price is there? Justice Institute of B.C.'s paramedic course? I am doing this just for interest.

Thanks

[starlight1]

FNG

Training varies from province to province. In Alberta, anyone can take an EMT course at a college if you can get into the program (usually pretty competitive). This is the same in several other provinces. I am quite familiar with the JIBC program as I am with the BC ambulance service. You cannot take the JIBC courses unless you are firs hired on as a paramedic with the BC ambulance service. The new CMA/EMA I course is apparently a model for the QL3 training of the reg force med A's, but I'm not super familiar with the details.

[starlight1]

FNG

Do you live in Ontario? If so, I know that Ambulance and Emergency care programs are run out of many colleges. I looked at the Humber College web site and from what I could tell it looked like pretty much any one can apply to enter the program.

[docbryantusn]

I definitely agrea that the paramedic course is the best way to go before entry as a medic/corpsman. These courses are usually available at local community colleges. The laws restricting the taking of the courses are individual to the state you are in. Most require that you go through EMT-Basic course first then continue on to EMT-Paramedic.

RN's in the military are largely restricted to administrative duties and have little to do with operational units. It is a good idea to get some LPN training though. There will be a time, before you qualify for specops where you will need to know how to work in a hospital.

[trident86]

Whisky8: any Navy guys when you went thru? I did Phase IIB around the same timeframe. There were four of us at the same time: Chuck Hayes, Shaun Chittick, Loris Cagnoni, and Henry Casey.

[Toronto_Firefighter]

FNG,

First of all EMT is an American term. In Canada there are first responders and paramedics. As far as training goes, I got Paramedic training at Humber and I recieved a fine education in paramedicine. Centennial College in Scarborough is very good too. Also don't forget about St John Ambulance and red Cross. SJA offers very good advanced level first aid courses that are extensive. Red Cross offers a first responder program. I don't recommend to take paramedicine for fun because it is difficult and will require your full effort and time. The courses are not very expensive and who knows I could be your instructor.

To all the other guys. I've seen what military medics have to cover and I'd strongly suggest paramedic training. Though, I don't think it's a pre-requisite, It will help you very much because it will give you a foundation to build on. If you can get some Advanced Life Support training.

[starlight1]

Toronto_Firefighter

Do you know anything about the Toronto EMS Tactical Paramedic team? Also, how hard is it to go through the equivalency process to have non Ontario credentials recognized in Ontario. I have 2 years experience with the BC Ambulance Service and I have recently joined the militia, also as a medic.

[E19]

After reading this string I was wondering how an 18D or 91B4S (if there are any around) feels about the need for prior medical education (as suggested in this string) before undertaking the 18D Q course. If you are bright indivdual and a decent student I would think the course should be doable without any of the other schooling. I don't recall and of the 91B's from my time having done that. Thanks in advance.

E19 Out



[This message has been edited by E19 (edited 08-29-2000).]

[recce_o]

TO_Firefighter:

1. Do you have any contact info for the SJA Advanced First Aid course and the Red Cross First Responder course?

2. How many hours are each of these courses?

3. Are there any prerequisites?

4. Are there any more advanced courses available that do not require the 2 year college course at Humber or Centennial? I.E. is there any place in Toronto that offers something similar to the Wilderness EMT program as developed by the Wilderness Medical Associates?

Thanks,

Recce

[starlight1]

Recce_0

Usually the Red Cross First Responder Course is about 40 hours. The SJA course used to be offered as a two week crash course running monday to friday but I'm not sure how they offer it now. For both courses, i'm pretty sure the only prerequisites are CPR Level C and Standard First Aid.

[E19]

Whisky8,

Thanks for your reply to my post.

I know a lot of 91b4s (Retired) who are still kicking and are not quite ready for the national cemetery yet. I didn't know if any frequented SOCNET or not.

I asked the question because these days it seems that so everyone wants to take pre this and pre that. I bet a guy could make a fortune running a pre-school for basic training. What I never have been able to comprehend is why people are so afraid they are going to fail something without getting pre-training.

My generation must have been dumb because we just joined and went to the training without
pre-school. I bet the failure rate was about the same or less. If SF felt there was a need for pre training there would be requirements that a soldier needs to have met (ie: prior mos training ) prior to entry to the various primary mos fields. To my knowlege this has never been the case.

Note for those not familiar with 91b4S: Prior the creation of CMF-18 an 18D was a 91B4S. The S suffix designated SF qualified.

Thanks again whisky8

[Joemac]

I am not really interested in a pre course, but more concerned about what to do after high school. I want something that revolves around the medical field, and might benefit me if I do choose to enlist. But more than anything, I feel I need the extra time to think it out, and if I go to college or a school for medical training, maybe I will find out it isnt for me.