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Old 2 August 2011, 12:51
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Paramedic Reentry

I maybe over thinking this but if there is anyone that can clarify an answer to this...

I completed NREMT-P at Tidewater in VA. 1998. Kept my certification up for a number of years. My certification lapsed in 2007.

Question: Has anyone "reentered" this program for National and State, and if so what is the step by step process you used?

What I have so far. The NREMT-P website reads I should have to
1) Register on the website
2) Take the computer test
3) Find a local area that can screen my station skills...
4) Oh and of course, pay the fees associated.

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Old 2 August 2011, 12:59
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A lapse of 4 years and that is all you have to do? I would really do my homework with this. Are you talking JUST about NREMT-P or about state cert or licensure?

Either way talk to "Guy" about this very issue. I think he is in the midst of it.
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Old 2 August 2011, 19:52
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A lapse of 4 years and that is all you have to do? I would really do my homework with this. Are you talking JUST about NREMT-P or about state cert or licensure?

Either way talk to "Guy" about this very issue. I think he is in the midst of it.


When i called and reviewed the website for NREMT-P it did seem pretty simple. I am looking to go the National route as I understand it I can go from state to state with National BUT not all states have reciprocity.

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Old 2 August 2011, 20:12
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When i called and reviewed the website for NREMT-P it did seem pretty simple. I am looking to go the National route as I understand it I can go from state to state with National BUT not all states have reciprocity.

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Reverse that...National means pretty much nothing in most states. Most states require another state's cert if you are trying to cert in a state in which you did not attend paramedic training. A couple of states will allow you to "challenge" their test. Some overseas companies may honor NREMT-P.

NREMT-P is a business, their website will try to "sell" their product. I have had NREMT-P cert for 14 years, and it is pretty much worthless...I only maintain it cuz it's easy and free, as SOCOM pays for it for me. Do you have your ATP cert from JSOMTG? Your profile lists 18D. Are you an SFQC grad, or an SFMS grad? If you are still on AD, let Uncle Sugar help you!
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Old 2 August 2011, 22:52
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Reverse that...National means pretty much nothing in most states. Most states require another state's cert if you are trying to cert in a state in which you did not attend paramedic training. A couple of states will allow you to "challenge" their test. Some overseas companies may honor NREMT-P.

NREMT-P is a business, their website will try to "sell" their product. I have had NREMT-P cert for 14 years, and it is pretty much worthless...I only maintain it cuz it's easy and free, as SOCOM pays for it for me. Do you have your ATP cert from JSOMTG? Your profile lists 18D. Are you an SFQC grad, or an SFMS grad? If you are still on AD, let Uncle Sugar help you!

I copy all. Yes 18d, but terminal papers have been submitted. I fully agree on the EMT for dollars way they run it. Almost like a PADI course!

How does the ATP help us?

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Old 3 August 2011, 05:34
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I copy all. Yes 18d, but terminal papers have been submitted. I fully agree on the EMT for dollars way they run it. Almost like a PADI course!

How does the ATP help us?

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Surfer
Depending on what state you are dealing with, they may honor ATP as a current cert since your NREMT-P is lapsed. Operative word being may...

During my break in service several years back, I had NO LUCK getting any state to give a shit about my NREMT-P and all the accompanying certs (PHTLS, ACLS, PediPHTLS, ATLS, etc, etc). All the states I dealt with (CA, AK, WA, OR, ID) wanted to see a cert from another state and my # of ambulance hours. The hours they wanted was FAR MORE than any bridge course grad would ever have, too.

I did not pay attention when they were talking about it, but there is a program now where SOF medics can challenge the Flight Paramedic cert. It was mentioned while in was in SOFMSSC that last couple of time. You may be able to get info from the schoolhouse on the program.

I hope you are able to get some use from your SOF medical training...I was not able to do so, and ended up being the cop that all of the local paramedics kept asking for a second opinion.
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You have to take a refresher course as well. EMT Inc in IN does (or used to do) a refresher that was geared to just taking the test as to get you in the mindset of how the NREMT test will be. We all know that what they look for in the practical and on some of the questions differs in real life situations and helps you read the questions/perform the procedures as they expect you to.

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Old 2 August 2011, 17:35
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If you have a current state cert you can take a 48 hour approved NREMTP refresher course as well as ACLS, PALS, PHTLS, CPR and fax that to the NREMT board in Ohio for approval. Once approved you can then schedule both the CBT and/or the practical exam. If you want a sure shot on practicals my .02 is check out Becker training center in New Hampshire they run a practical every month and they are down to earth. Good luck
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Old 2 August 2011, 19:49
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I do not have a current state cert and never obtained one. As for the refresher course, I use to attend one but now, even with it, I think I still have to take the written test, ACLS, BLS, PALs, PHTLS, and do all the stations again. ( If I am reading the website correctly)

Thanks for all the help so far. I am just reviewing my options. I have read that a few others are doing the same and wanted to corral it all into one thread.


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As a side bar if you havent held a current cert over 2 years then you will have to take the paramedic program over in its entirety. 1 thing....My registry expired a few years back and the only saving grace I had was that I had a Pennslyvania cert so with that being said anyone who holds a paramedic cert should apply for reciprocity in PA as the cert never expires therefore it was my ace in the hole to get my NREMTP back. Good luck. Hope there is some sort of loop hole for you to sneak thru and if there is let us all know how you did it.
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Georgia EMT-P Reciprocity.
• Georgia will issue a state EMT-P license based on the
medic being a current ATP, and having an ATP score on
file.
• You must have taken and passed theATP exam to be eligible
for reciprocity.
One common problem is that the ATP was trained
prior to FY 2006 (SOCM) or FY 2007 (PJ) and does not
have a validATP test score on file. If you fall into this category,
please contact us at ATP@socom.mil for a schedule
of ATP tests.
Contact Information for the Georgia EMT-P:
JasseneWilliams, Program Assistant
Personnel Licensing & Compliance
GA Dept of Community Health
2600 Skyland Dr Lower Level
Atlanta, GA 30319
Phone: (404) 679-0544
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Journal of Special Operations Medicine Volume 9, Edition 4 / Fall 09
NREMT Registration/ Examination Information
The U.S.Army EMS Programs Management Office has granted approval for those completing the Special Operations Combat (SOCM) course to challenge the
NREMT-Paramedic examination. Below are instructions and guidelines to follow should you want to take the NREMT-P exam.
1. Personnel who have completed the SOCM course are eligible to challenge the NREMT-Paramedic exam, Computer Based Test (CBT) and the Practical Skills evaluation
(both are required.) Also, personnel who allowed their NREMT certification to lapse and attended SOCMSSC since 2002 are eligible to challenge the NREMT-Basic (CBT only) or Paramedic exams.
2. Examination fee for the Computer Based Test (CBT) is $110.00, payable three ways to NREMT: a. Check/ money order (slow process as this
must be mailed) b. Credit card (secure site) c. Payment voucher purchased through the
NREMT website
3. The NREMT Computer Based Test should be available at any Post/Base DANTES testing center (Education Center). Check with them to find out if that location
is able to receive the NREMT-P examination. Otherwise, you will have to follow the directions in the Authority To Test letter from NREMT to contact Pearson VUE.
4. Practical Skills Examination location can be found through the website and maybe check with a local community college/ hospital based or fire service based paramedic
training program. These usually require scheduling through them in order to attend their examination(s) dates. Additionally, be prepared to pay a “site fee” at the practical skills exam location. This may range from no fee to in excess of $150.00
5. To register for an examination, go to the www.nremt.org website a. At the website, click on “Apply to be nationally certified.” b. If you have not registered with NREMT before, you will be required to establish a username and password. Like any other username and password, don’t forget them!
6. When registering, the website will ask what state the course was attended: Use “AM“ (Army), rather than your state of residence. Course site codes are:
a. Completed SOCM and registering to take the
NREMT-Basic exam; site code AM-800
b. Completed SOCM and registering to take the
NREMT-Paramedic exam: P-001
c. Completed SOCMSSC and registering to take
either the NREMT-Basic or Paramedic exam:
PB-001
7. After registering for the Paramedic exam, email Mr.
Cox at the JSOMTC, coxkl@soc.mil. Mr. Cox will verify
your completion of the SOCM course which let the
NREMT know you are eligible to challenge the
NREMT-P exam.
8. Study/ Review! Whether attempting the Paramedic
exam for the 3rd time or the first time, review is necessary.
The SOCM course did a great job of teaching
basic/paramedic and beyond knowledge and skills; but,
some material addressed by the NREMT examination
were not covered well: IE; EMS operations, OB/Gyn,
peds, geriatrics, crime scene awareness, HAZMAT and
cardiology. Practical Skills Examination check sheets
can be printed from the www.nrmet.org website. Practice
with them in order to learn/ retain the flow NREMT
expects skills to be demonstrated.
a. Other study guides, reference material are
available at your local bookstore, e.g.: Barnes
& Noble,Walden books, Books-a-Million,
Amazon.com, Borders, libraries, etc. Any of
the current edition texts/review books should
have the latest material necessary to pass the
NREMT exam.
b. Be prepared to test when scheduling for the
Practical Exams. There is no review/ train-up
time at an examination site. A brief familiarization
will be given to a piece of unfamiliar
equipment… otherwise be ready with your
knowledge and psychomotor skill ability.
c. If you feel a refresher is needed before scheduling,
check with a local medical training facility
(community college, hospital, EMS
service, medical training company.)
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Surfer,

Two of us (18Ds) had been on the phone with NREMT and were told, we had to go back through EMT-B.

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Old 9 August 2011, 14:00
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HOLY CRAP~~

Guy,
Ain't doint the course again.... EMT in San Antonio AND NREMT in Va Beach...
That was enough.

I like Malpractice's approach through Georgia though. gotta hit the refresher one last time before exiting/

Thanks Guy
Thanks Malpractice

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Guy,
Would you mind sending me a PM with that info? Thanks
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Old 26 November 2011, 12:51
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Paramedic Reentry "update"

Ok, so after some extensive phone calling and wrangling with registry and school houses I have answers...

1. Reentry is the safest and most assured way of going.

Get all the precert cards out of the way. ACLS/BLS/PALs(PEP).
Register for the online "cognitive exam".
STUDY!!!! then..... STUDY some more (this brings to question the best review material or course i.e. Kaplens/ Mosbys/ Brady... etc.

Once that is done and you have passed the test(again) you can schedule the 12 skills test. then.... PRACTICE. (Mega Code, spine board, PT assessment, etc...)

Once complete send documetation to NREMT for validation.

2. IF.... You are ATP(you know who you are) and you have a "documented" test score, then for the sake of having a paramedic card, you can go through Georgia EMS. As I understand it this only helps with DoS employment. No real reciprocity with other states... Anything different let me know.

3. My option... # 1 painful as it may be I could now use a really good NREMT-P study guide.......

Please PM me if there is a guide, better than others, out there.

Thanks and hope this helps others as well.

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