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Old 9 November 2012, 22:40
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Battle of Medina Ridge footage during Desert Storm.

Pretty good footage.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=73yDX...ure=plpp_video

For those not familiar with the battle.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Medina_Ridge
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Old 10 November 2012, 09:24
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Old 10 November 2012, 23:41
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That brings back some memories. I had planned to take a video camera with me but it was stolen before we deployed.
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I got this link from a friend from my old unit today. This is a record of action covering some battles of Operation Desert Saber/Storm.

http://www.3ad.com/history/gulf.war/...ting.myths.htm
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Good links.

It gets me to thinking, are Frederick Franks, who commanded VII Corps during the Gulf War, and Tommy Franks related in some way?

Probably just a coincidence that they share the last name.
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I don't think they are related.
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I got this link from a friend from my old unit today. This is a record of action covering some battles of Operation Desert Saber/Storm.

http://www.3ad.com/history/gulf.war/...ting.myths.htm
I have some pics of the two vehicles destroyed in footnote # 25. It happened about 100 meters away from me if even that. I'll send the link to you if you want but do not want to post them in the open because I don't want my pic out there.
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How long/how many rounds would it take an M1A1 to get rounds on a target in the defilade? Is that something these Armored Divisions trained for back then? - Flat terrain, enemy in the defilade?
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How long/how many rounds would it take an M1A1 to get rounds on a target in the defilade? Is that something these Armored Divisions trained for back then? - Flat terrain, enemy in the defilade?
If the crew had that thing boresighted correctly, one shot one kill. A 2000 meter kill would be easy for an M1.

As for being in defilade, I don't remember ever taking up a defensive position during this. We were on the move the entire time of the ground offensive. The majority of our shots were on the move and that stabilizer came into play.

I was with A Trp 1/4 Cav, the lead unit for 1st ID during Desert Storm. I remember doing the passage of lines with 2nd ACR in the middle of the night.
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As for being in defilade, I don't remember ever taking up a defensive position during this. We were on the move the entire time of the ground offensive. The majority of our shots were on the move and that stabilizer came into play.
Cool. I'm not talking about our guys being in the defilade. I guess what I'm asking we might not want to discuss. I'm basically asking what the min distance the Abrams needs to be away from the enemy in order for them to put effective fire on an enemy in the defilade.
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I have some pics of the two vehicles destroyed in footnote # 25. It happened about 100 meters away from me if even that. I'll send the link to you if you want but do not want to post them in the open because I don't want my pic out there.

Sure send it on.
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How long/how many rounds would it take an M1A1 to get rounds on a target in the defilade? Is that something these Armored Divisions trained for back then? - Flat terrain, enemy in the defilade?
I wasn't a tanker but I have watched them firing on what was called the Tank tables and they had targets in the defilade position, my favorite was DPICM

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Cool. I'm not talking about our guys being in the defilade. I guess what I'm asking we might not want to discuss. I'm basically asking what the min distance the Abrams needs to be away from the enemy in order for them to put effective fire on an enemy in the defilade.
I was on a M3A2. I can tell you if we could see them (the thermals in the ICU worked great), we could hit them. We could reach out and nail them with that TOW missle.

As for the M1, I would suspect they could as well. The ICU in the M1 was more sophisticated than the M3.
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Correction ISU (integrated sight unit), not ICU.
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Good links.

It gets me to thinking, are Frederick Franks, who commanded VII Corps during the Gulf War, and Tommy Franks related in some way?

Probably just a coincidence that they share the last name.
We had two very good commanders in Gen.Schwarzkopf and Franks. Perhaps, two of the greatest commanders in our military history. They were students of warfare. There was a combination of German blitzkrieg tactics along with massed Soviet artillery doctrine utilized during DS. Mix in some strong air support and it's a unbeatable method of warfare when you have the resources available that we had.
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Allied losses during Desert Storm

U.S. casualties: 148 battle deaths, 145 nonbattle deaths
Army: 98 battle; 105 nonbattle
Navy: 6 battle; 8 nonbattle
Marines: 24 battle; 26 nonbattle
Air Force: 20 battle; 6 nonbattle
Women killed: 15
U.S. wounded in action: 467
British casualties: 24, nine by U.S. fire
British wounded in action: 10
French casualties: 2
French wounded in action: 25 (estimated)
Allied Arab casualties: 39
Allied combat air sorties flown: More than 116,000
Coalition aircraft losses: 75 (63 U.S., 12 Allied)
Fixed wing: 37 combat, 15 noncombat (U.S. losses -- 28 combat, 12 noncombat; no U.S. losses in air-to-air engagements)
Helicopters: 5 combat, 18 noncombat (all U.S.)

There were also armor losses despite them being unreported. I saw them.
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Iraqi losses

Estimated Iraqi Losses: (Reported by U.S. Central Command, March 7, 1991)
36 fixed-wing aircraft in air-to-air engagements
6 helicopters in air-to-air engagements
68 fixed- and 13 rotary-wing aircraft destroyed on the ground
137 Iraqi aircraft flown to Iran
3,700 of 4,280 battle tanks
2,400 of 2,870 assorted other armored vehicles
2,600 of 3,110 assorted artillery pieces
19 naval ships sunk, 6 damaged
42 divisions made combat-ineffective
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