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Old 11 January 2019, 10:53
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Desantis is expected to suspend Sheriff Israel today. The leading contender for his replacement pending removal proceedings in the legislature: the retired Coral Springs PD Sergeant who is responsible for the training that resulted in their officers' epic, standard-setting performance in the face of BSO's cowardice and lack of will. He currently runs a training company focused on Rescue Task Force and active shooter response.
Not being local and having CRS - you talking about the guys who were off duty and said F it and suited up and drove to Parkland while having "radio trouble"? Or something like that? Then they were reprimanded. Do you like this "new" sheriff or no - couldn't tell ^?
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Old 11 January 2019, 23:03
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Done. The have a new Sherriff (Gregory Tony).
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Old 12 January 2019, 00:22
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Not being local and having CRS - you talking about the guys who were off duty and said F it and suited up and drove to Parkland while having "radio trouble"? Or something like that? Then they were reprimanded. Do you like this "new" sheriff or no - couldn't tell ^?
No, on duty officers from the local department.
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Old 12 January 2019, 08:49
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No, on duty officers from the local department.
Thanks.
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Old 12 January 2019, 13:54
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Done. The have a new Sherriff (Gregory Tony).
Here's the official act (PDF).
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Old 12 January 2019, 15:10
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This took way too long to happen.
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Old 12 January 2019, 15:18
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Personally, I wouldn't agree to go through the rest of my life branded a coward for $8000 a month.
He doesn't have a choice.....
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https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/04/u...gtype=Homepage

Interesting. Glad to see this happen.
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Old 4 June 2019, 20:51
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Yep Posted here-> http://socnet.com/showthread.php?t=131792&page=44
Didn't remember this thread.
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3 key points-
1) He won't likely score prison...doesn't matter.
2) Felony conviction revokes his law enforcement certification.
3) Felony conviction strips his state retirement (99% of his high 5 at 33 years).

Numbers 2 and 3 are the likely objectives.
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Old 5 June 2019, 05:31
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3 key points-
1) He won't likely score prison...doesn't matter.
2) Felony conviction revokes his law enforcement certification.
3) Felony conviction strips his state retirement (99% of his high 5 at 33 years).

Numbers 2 and 3 are the likely objectives.
Boom. This turd deserves to die embarrassed and penniless.
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Old 5 June 2019, 07:51
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I will be absolutely AMAZED if anything comes from this. Maybe its the cynic in me, but aren't there a few court cases (including USSC) that say LE isn't required to protect people? Why does this seem like CYA, PR damage control/reputation management? Are there some Parkland, FL elections coming up, or something?
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Old 5 June 2019, 07:55
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I will be surprised if he is convicted. They are trying to classify him as a “caregiver” which here in FL is a parent, and possibly a teacher. I think that is/will be a far stretch.
I don’t think anything good will come from this.
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Old 5 June 2019, 09:08
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I thought the real reason for the arrest was the perjury? The cowardice a distant second......
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Old 5 June 2019, 09:09
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Very hard to imagine being branded a coward to all the world....
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Old 5 June 2019, 09:42
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I thought the real reason for the arrest was the perjury? The cowardice a distant second......
Here in FL the talking heads put the perjury in the conversation well after the “cowardice and child neglect” mantra. Something along the lines of ‘he is the coward and neglected the children. He did nothing to save the children. Oh yeah, he lied too.’

Still a total shit show.
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Old 5 June 2019, 10:37
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3 key points-
1) He won't likely score prison...doesn't matter.
2) Felony conviction revokes his law enforcement certification.
3) Felony conviction strips his state retirement (99% of his high 5 at 33 years).

Numbers 2 and 3 are the likely objectives.
I think that is what irked people, after the disgusting fact he did nothing, but then was retiring with a pension that exceeds most people’s salary. A police officer earns his salary and also earns his pension, in this case most believe he earned neither.
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Old 5 June 2019, 11:13
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I will be absolutely AMAZED if anything comes from this. Maybe its the cynic in me, but aren't there a few court cases (including USSC) that say LE isn't required to protect people? Why does this seem like CYA, PR damage control/reputation management? Are there some Parkland, FL elections coming up, or something?
I think they're going to argue that due to his position he had a "special relationship" with the kids which would be outside the scope of that Supreme Court case which applied to society at large.
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Old 5 June 2019, 12:09
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I think they're going to argue that due to his position he had a "special relationship" with the kids which would be outside the scope of that Supreme Court case which applied to society at large.
Yep, they charged him as a "caregiver."

I was all over the idea of charging him yesterday. Thrilled with it.

Now, I'm less thrilled. When does an officer become a caregiver? When is that relationship established? Are all SROs now considered caregivers?

Are all officers standing a fixed post assignment now caregivers?

I think this could set a dangerous precedent. I'm all in favor of the perjury charge. I could probably go along with the culpable negligence charge if it pertained to his actions in the months and weeks prior to the shooting when he first had contact with the goblin. I'm less than thrilled with the idea that he was a caregiver to the minors who were killed. I think it's going to fail on the "duty to protect" aspect.

I agree that this is an attempt to go after his pension, although I thought he had already retired. Reports said yesterday he was fired right before or after he was arrested.

Also kind of curious about why they didn't go to a grand jury with this.

Here's the warrant.
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Old 5 June 2019, 16:13
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Why do you care if they overcharge him? It happens to non LEO all the time by the DA or whomever is the charging authority. LEO's seem to over cite citizens when it suits them too.

They could have charged him with sodomy and I wouldn't care. I'm laughing to see overcharging used against him.
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