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Old 28 December 2009, 09:51
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They may be getting mixed up a little with the Combat Lifesavers Class.
Same in the Army. I took that course.
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Old 29 December 2009, 09:54
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Yikes...this will show my age for sure.

91B used to be Combat Medic. 91C was the hospital types. At one point in the early 80's I was a Combat Medical Instructor with the 3457th Med Tng Ctr, the back-up to the instructors at Ft. Sam.

Probably the old title continued on as "slang" after it was retired.

I liked that the tested EFMB (Expert Field Medical Badge) was titled and badged different than the CMB, which was earned in combat.
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Old 29 December 2009, 12:30
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As previously mentioned, "Combat Medic" is currently used as slang for the 68Ws ("Healthcare Specialists") that are assigned to combat units, as opposed to those serving in support roles.

68W_W1 is officially referred to as "Special Operations Combat Medic"...and is the only medical MOS officially containing the word "Combat".

To obtain the skill identifier, you must complete the SOCM Course, otherwise known as the "Short Course".

Any 68W assigned to CA, 160th SOAR, Ranger BN, and SF Groups have to attend this course (theoretically).

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Old 29 December 2009, 14:09
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As I remember it:

91A used to be Medical Specialist (8 week EMT-B/I course at Ft. Sam)
91B used to be NCO Medical Specialist (EMT-P after BNOC at Ft. Sam with "S" identifier if a 300SF course grad)
91C used to be NCO Licensed Practical Nurse (1 yr LPN course at Ft. Sam or a civillian LPN license when you joined.)

Basically 91A from E-1->E-5(p), After BNOC or the SF Medic course you were a 91B.

All Medics were considered 91Bs by 1990-1991 and they discarded the 91A designation.

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Old 29 December 2009, 16:03
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Off the top of my head, the only job titles in the US MIL that have 'Combat' in them are USAF Combat Control Team ('CCT') and Army Combat Engineers (MOS 12B). It would be interesting to see if there's more (i.e. 'Combat Astronaut' or some other cool/obscure MOS).
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Any 68W assigned to CA, 160th SOAR, Ranger BN, and SF Groups have to attend this course (theoretically).
Are there 68W's assigned to Group?
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Old 30 December 2009, 10:15
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The USN & USMC have a Combat Aircrew designation (enlisted) that involves flight time in an actual hostile environment (i.e. insert/extract of NSW or Recon in the bad guys back yard kinda stuff). The wings are different than standard aircrew wings, and the stipulations of wearing such a device are regulated by flight time in a combat. Here's a quick link. It is NOT however an NEC or MOS.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aircrew_Badge

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When I was a corpsman, in the Navy, I went to Field Medical Service School, a Marine Corps command. I asked to go (now I understand all male corpsmen go regardless if they want to be in the field or a pecker checker in a clinic). All of my enlisted service as a corpsman was with a Marine Corps unit. I called myself a corpsman, but never a "combat" anything; this would be akin to a Marine being called a "combat Marine"...it was just where we did the job. We did think ourselves a bit "better" than our non-FMSS graduates, but that was in part to the attitudinal changes instilled by the FMSS staff.
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Are there 68W's assigned to Group?
68W_W1 (SOCM) can be assigned to SOCOM and/or SOSCOM and serve in support of Special Forces, but not on an ODA in place of an 18D.

Edited to add: Come to think of it, and I could be totally wrong here, aren't SOCMs working at SFAS and/or the Q-Course in lieu of 18Ds due to operational needs?

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Old 30 December 2009, 15:03
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Don't forget Combatant Swimmer NEC 5326
If that counts then don'forget the 535X Special Warfare Combatant Crewman (we have both warfare and combatant in ours)
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This is the only regret I have ever had to my military service. If I could do it over again I would 100% choose medic.
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As I remember it:

91A used to be Medical Specialist (8 week EMT-B/I course at Ft. Sam)
91B used to be NCO Medical Specialist (EMT-P after BNOC at Ft. Sam with "S" identifier if a 300SF course grad)
91C used to be NCO Licensed Practical Nurse (1 yr LPN course at Ft. Sam or a civillian LPN license when you joined.)

Basically 91A from E-1->E-5(p), After BNOC or the SF Medic course you were a 91B.

All Medics were considered 91Bs by 1990-1991 and they discarded the 91A designation.

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As many have noted, the MOS designations have shifted around over the years. In 1976 the 91A field medic MOS was gone with Vietnam War. The basic MOS was now 91B Medical Specialist. I am looking at my graduation certificate and it says that I graduated on 14 October 1976. I ended up in an Infantry Battalion of the 82nd and I liked to think of myself as an 'Airborne Infantry Medic', or a superior form of field medic, far superior to a hospital medic. Fort Sam Houston had an interesting post Vietnam attitude. The cadre emphasized that it was the "Academy of Health Sciences" and an educational institution. We didn't do a single day of organized PT during the 8 weeks I was there - the cadre seemed to think it was a distasteful idea. We rarely even marched anywhere. Thankfully I was a smart enough 18 year old to do PT on my own as I reported directly to Airborne School after Fort Sam.

The next MOS up the food chain was 91C, Clinical Specialist which was about the same as a Licensed Practical Nurse (LPN) education. The Army had a shortage of 91C's. In 1977 I and about a dozen other 91B's from the 82nd were selected out and sent back to Fort Sam Houston for the 91C 'short course'. I ended up at the brand new Eisenhower Medical Center at Fort Gordon for my hospital training. While I wasn't a full up 91C by education, it became my MOS in my records and I was qualified to fill a 91C slot back in the 2 / 504th ABN IN.

When I enlisted in the Army in 1975 my intent was also to become a "Combat Medic". In reality, in my opinion that's a field medic until you actually experience combat. I never did become a combat medic. But, the title that I'm still proud to declare is 'Airborne Infantry Medic'.

As I flip through my file folder a smile comes to my face at the sight of my Special Forces Aidman Prepatory Course (correspondence) certificate from March 79 right in front of my Special Forces Officers Course certificate (not correspondence although I did that too) from August 81. I certainly didn't have a traditional career.
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