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Old 17 September 2017, 07:31
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From the verdict..."Finally, the court observes, based on its nearly thirty years on the bench, that an urban heroin dealer not in possession of a firearm would be an anomaly."

If you haven't read it, go read it...
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Old 17 September 2017, 10:08
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From the verdict..."Finally, the court observes, based on its nearly thirty years on the bench, that an urban heroin dealer not in possession of a firearm would be an anomaly."
I don't understand why the judge included this sentence (though I have my suspicions). It's not true and those weren't facts of record. Eventually someone is going to go through the cases he's had and point out that he's full of it.
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Old 17 September 2017, 15:58
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^^^Any different than a liberal judge putting his/her two cents from the other end of the spectrum in their ruling?
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Old 17 September 2017, 16:03
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Would the trial have gone any differently if the prosecution hadn't gone with premeditated murder?
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^^^Any different than a liberal judge putting his/her two cents from the other end of the spectrum in their ruling?
Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, no matter who says/does it or what their political affiliation may be.
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Old 17 September 2017, 16:24
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Old 17 September 2017, 16:28
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From the verdict..."Finally, the court observes, based on its nearly thirty years on the bench, that an urban heroin dealer not in possession of a firearm would be an anomaly."

If you haven't read it, go read it...
Was that statement made based upon court records or his personal experience?
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Old 17 September 2017, 16:30
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Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, no matter who says/does it or what their political affiliation may be.
Agree 1000%...
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Was that statement made based upon court records or his personal experience?
I can only speculate...you'd have to ask the judge who wrote it
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Wrong is wrong is wrong is wrong, no matter who says/does it or what their political affiliation may be.
Yup...
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Meh, putting faith in some lawyer in a black dress is for naive simpletons.

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I am starting to get the idea that many but certainly not all young black people just like to riot, burn things down and steal shit. The "reasons" are just excuses to do what they want to do already
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Old 18 September 2017, 00:59
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So, I think I got this straight...

1. the officer is recorded saying we're gonna kill this asshole.
2. the officer gets into a two-fisted "shootout" using an unauthorized (and somewhat comical) AK pistol with a drum mag. LEO 7.62 spray-n-pray. C'mon. More training and lose the infidel patch.
3. the suspect is killed and there is a suspicion the suspect's weapon was planted after the fact. (WTF nobody did dashcam audio/ballistics/powder residue on the suspect to establish a viable two-way exchange?)
4. The judge aquits partly based on his 30+yrs experience that heroin dealers always have gunz.

Yup, clearly another bad case of lead poisoning.

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Old 18 September 2017, 09:08
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I am starting to get the idea that many but certainly not all young black people just like to riot, burn things down and steal shit. The "reasons" are just excuses to do what they want to do already
Urban scum is all those rioters are. A 240 would take of it quick.
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Old 18 September 2017, 09:27
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Urban scum is all those rioters are. A 240 would take of it quick.
Ya know I've always wanted to fire a minigun from the hip like Arnold on Terminator 2 and hear a reply "That's a damn minigun!!!". Or that jungle cutting scene in Predator.
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Old 18 September 2017, 10:24
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There's a good possibility they charged him with Murder instead of a lesser offense like Manslaughter (or whatever their equivalent is) knowing that the Murder charge wouldn't be possible to prove, thus getting an acquittal while simultaneously being able to technically say "we did our part and let the system work."
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Old 18 September 2017, 10:30
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"...young black people just like to riot, burn things down and steal shit"
"Urban scum is all those rioters are. A 240 would take of it quick."

Sorry, but I'm having a little trouble getting a read on these statements that isn't racist as fuck. Maybe somebody can help me out.


As to the judge's statement, I can't imagine why he felt the need to put his biases on display in his opinion. Having worked in a narcotics unit, it is my experience that he's dead wrong, anyways. Drug dealers that have been around for more than a minute definitely have access to guns, but know that dope plus guns equals prison when you get busted.

What I can't figure out is why they even brought this to trial now in the first place. They declined prosecution for 6 years, settled with the family civilly and the cop was forced to resign. No new evidence came to light. Seems like this was just asking for the inevitable shit show that has ensued.
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Old 18 September 2017, 10:39
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There's a good possibility they charged him with Murder instead of a lesser offense like Manslaughter (or whatever their equivalent is) knowing that the Murder charge wouldn't be possible to prove, thus getting an acquittal while simultaneously being able to technically say "we did our part and let the system work."
Was thinking that exact same thing, if they didn't even check dashcam audio, ballistics, or powder residue to establish the facts of the suspect weapon. Or they did investigate, and didn't like what they found. Still can't get past a LEO using a rifle-caliber AK pistol (likely "low budget" POS) with a drum magazine for that surgical LEO professionalism. That says a lot about this "officer". Got to give him credit though for pure balls (and keeping his freedom).

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Old 18 September 2017, 10:41
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There's a good possibility they charged him with Murder instead of a lesser offense like Manslaughter (or whatever their equivalent is) knowing that the Murder charge wouldn't be possible to prove, thus getting an acquittal while simultaneously being able to technically say "we did our part and let the system work."
Yeah, I tend to agree with this. Similar situations have come up in Chicago with police shootings, where you could easily make the case for gross incompetence, but not malice, yet the clowns in the prosecutor's office have charged 1st degree murder, with the largely inevitable result of "not guilty."

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Old 18 September 2017, 10:43
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^^^ I don't know how calling city dwellers urban scum is racist?
I could personally care less what color rioters are. Myself and a lot of other Americans are sick of this bullshit. And yeah I got no issue with using deadly force to stop a riot.
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