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Old 19 September 2017, 13:03
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POTUS speech to UN

Some of the big points so far:
1 - Socialism is a failed ideology that Maduro forced onto Venezuela. We will not relieve our sanctions on Venezuela because they are starving there, but will maintain or increase them until Maduro is gone along with socialism.
2 - Iran's only major export is violence and the US is done putting up with that.
3 - If North Korea continues on their current path, the US will totally destroy their country.
4 - Every member of the state, including the USA, must look out for their own best interest and that is the best way to ensure world peace (major slap to the UN).
5 - The US will no longer make or abide by agreements that are disadvantageous to the USA (never said the words Climate Change but the line of thinking is obvious).

Standing by for MSM liberals to foam at the mouth, faint, or both!

Edit to add: he said that Venezuela is not an aberration of socialism, but proof that everywhere socialism or communism has been faithfully applied the result has always been poverty, death, and oppression (he didn't say China, but you get the drift).
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Old 19 September 2017, 13:22
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Kind of amusing watching the TV cut to the Syrian ambassador while POTUS was calling out Assad for the being a murderous despot. Then when he started to talk about all of the wasteful use of money and resources by the UN, the camera cut to the Zimbabwe delegation.

They all looked like the cat that ate the canary.
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Old 19 September 2017, 13:24
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1. China isn't communism --- it's state capitalism. We all know REAL communism hasn't ever been tried (insert Marxism, Leninism, Stalinism, Trotskyism, etc).

2. It still simply floors me how people thinking nations have to look out for their interests is still a foam-at-the-mouth trigger phrase for libshits. Globalism truly is a cancer and needs to be wiped the fuck out with extreme prejudice.
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Old 19 September 2017, 13:25
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POTUS: “The problem in Venezuela is not that socialism has been poorly implemented, but that socialism has been faithfully implemented. (Applause) From the Soviet Union to Cuba to Venezuela, wherever true socialism or communism has been adopted, it has delivered anguish and devastation and failure.

Those who preach the tenets of these discredited ideologies only contribute to the continued suffering of the people who live under these cruel systems. America stands with every person living under a brutal regime. Our respect for sovereignty is also a call for action. All people deserve a government that cares for their safety, their interests and their well-being, including their prosperity.”

Classic!
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Old 19 September 2017, 13:46
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GREAT speech.
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Old 19 September 2017, 14:57
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What I admire in President Trump is that he actually says extremely level-headed things firmly grounded in reality.

Only that some people and some organizations are too far removed from it to accept his words. I remember how some NATO countries were surprised and angered by his words about cutting support for those who don't pay their obligations. They had issue with him because he only asked for them to uphold their part of the bargain. How's that for hypocrisy? We in Poland pay what we have to pay, because we support our allies as we are part of a team and agreement is an agreement.

For me, his speech again proves he's a real deal businessman and a patriot at heart. He's willing to discuss things with everyone (I still remember his extremely courteous offer for Kim Jong Un that if Kim wants to sit down and talk he will gladly negotiate with him), but only on fair and equal terms.

No wonder certain people have an issue with him.
UN should take a cue instead of being the politically correct inert international body that always has good intentions (often in their own mind) only fails to implement them.
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Old 19 September 2017, 15:05
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Are you really in Poland? Is that the mainstream view from OUTSIDE the US? Because it seems the same here.

We're just glad these stupid groups like ANTIFA and the criminal thugs who riot instead of peacefully protest usually are too lazy to vote.
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Old 19 September 2017, 15:16
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Are you really in Poland? Is that the mainstream view from OUTSIDE the US?
Yes I am and it is a mainstream view when we talk about Poland. Hungary too if I'm to believe my friends who live there. Poland was always pro - U.S. and President Trump is extremely well received here. I don't think it will ever change. Historical, political and social reasons, I guess.

There are also some friends I have in France or Germany who unofficially praise Trump. But the general POV in most of the "old" EU political circles - maybe with the exception of the United Kingdom - is quite different because Trump actually shows the bureaucrats in Brussels that what they're doing is - stupid.

I suppose there are lots of other countries around the globe who praise President Trump and the course his country is taking.
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Old 19 September 2017, 15:34
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We're just glad these stupid groups like ANTIFA and the criminal thugs who riot instead of peacefully protest usually are too lazy to vote.
I always cringe when I read that. I never in all my days have I witnessed so many lazy deadbeats feverisly and untiringly devoted to voting for that old Bolshevik Bernie. When it was revealed that Bernie was 'rigged against', the 'tism storm that ensued was truly legendary.

I honestly think that when the next election rolls around, all they gotta do is have some [insert whatever non white cis-het scum they can find] say three words: Student. Loan. Forgiveness. And you'll see the entire millennial generation mobilize like frenzied ants that just got their mound kicked over.

Trump talked a real good game in the speech. But those are just words. I want to see actions. He started off well in January, but lately there's been far too much nothing being done. Which is unacceptable to me, considering the absolute insane amount of work that needs to be done.
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Old 19 September 2017, 16:25
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.

Think about that.
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Old 19 September 2017, 16:32
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.

Think about that.
Sounds like a fine opportunity to destroy the Left for a LONG time.

If I was POTUS, I'd make it a priority.

"Sign this document here, it relinquishes your right to vote forever. Now sign here, it relieves you of your current student loan debt. Thank you and have a nice day.". Like that scene in Gangs of New York where they conscript the Irish coming off the boats for the Civil War.
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Old 19 September 2017, 16:51
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.
Is there a fund to make this happen???

Where do I mail the fuckin check!
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:01
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.

Think about that.
They only said that because they hadn't received their daily orders from their puppet masters yet....

Once they are given their daily plans, back to protests as usual....

But, yes...I can believe it when I seriously consider it. It would be one more thing given to them without any "real" requirement for payback.
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:01
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Well the flip side is that it signals to all the shiteating politicians out there how easily the millennial demographic voting bloc could be obtained during the election season. Doesn't matter if it can be done.......they [millenials] just have to THINK it could be done. They [politicians] just have to SAY the words and they'll get the vote. It's a big fucking nuclear bomb and the first one to use it wins.
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:21
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.
This is unreal. But speaks volumes about how some of the youth see their role in the world. Why have a constitutional right to vote when you can have the loan off your back. Money, money, money.
I didn't have any student loans. I did have other loans to pay though, but I would think it's a trick or a joke played on me if someone told me: Hey man, give up your right to vote so we nullify all your debts. you can also give up your other rights, we have a promotional offer for that too....

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Sounds like a fine opportunity to destroy the Left for a LONG time.

If I was POTUS, I'd make it a priority.

"Sign this document here, it relinquishes your right to vote forever. Now sign here, it relieves you of your current student loan debt. Thank you and have a nice day.". Like that scene in Gangs of New York where they conscript the Irish coming off the boats for the Civil War.
This is gold.
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:38
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This is unreal. But speaks volumes about how some of the youth see their role in the world. Why have a constitutional right to vote when you can have the loan off your back. Money, money, money.
I didn't have any student loans. I did have other loans to pay though, but I would think it's a trick or a joke played on me if someone told me: Hey man, give up your right to vote so we nullify all your debts. you can also give up your other rights, we have a promotional offer for that too....
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:47
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Offer an equivalent of student loan relief in cash payments or debt relief to anyone, not just millennials, in exchange for relinquishing the right to vote and I think the rate of acceptance would be high enough to disgust you. The right to vote isn't important enough for an embrassing amount of our population to actually exercise it, so why wouldn't they take some quick cash or freeing up of cash in exchange for what they don't care about to begin with?


As to the UN speech... Aside from the childish "Rocket Man" label, it was good enough. I think it was more hyperbole than policy, but time will tell on that. I like it when a US President reminds the UN who's in charge when it comes to world events.
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Old 19 September 2017, 17:55
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In a recent survey over 80% of millenials would give up their right to vote in exchange for student loan debt forgiveness.

Think about that.
I did not realize Richard Dawson was a former Ranger... :D

Do you have a link?

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I did not realize Richard Dawson was a former Ranger... :D

Do you have a link?

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LOL! Nice.

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