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Old 28 November 2018, 20:24
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Yes, but faster if you file as an individual (vice a trust). I have two items in NFA purgatory right now, a can and a SBR lower. Paperwork submitted in February.

Crap, I'd be using a trust. Wonder about buying it as an individual and then selling it to your trust.
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Old 28 November 2018, 20:41
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Crap, I'd be using a trust. Wonder about buying it as an individual and then selling it to your trust.
Sure, if you want to pay an extra $200 to Uncle Sugar.
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Old 28 November 2018, 20:44
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Sure, if you want to pay an extra $200 to Uncle Sugar.
Figures the Govt would "figure" out how to scam me while I was trying to scam them. Bastards
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Old 28 November 2018, 21:08
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I was looking at picking up this one. For $199 I don think you could go wrong.

https://www.capitolarmory.com/silencerco-warlock-ii-22lr-suppressor.html
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Is that advertised 114.6dB pretty fair?
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Old 28 November 2018, 21:29
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Is that advertised 114.6dB pretty fair?
Depends on what you are looking for, I suppose. An unsuppressed .22 LR rifle runs about 135 dB. A 10 dB increase is a 10-fold increase in energy. So, a 20 dB reduction is pretty good, and 114 dBs is pretty average for a rimfire suppressor.
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Old 28 November 2018, 22:03
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Depends on what you are looking for, I suppose. An unsuppressed .22 LR rifle runs about 135 dB. A 10 dB increase is a 10-fold increase in energy. So, a 20 dB reduction is pretty good, and 114 dBs is pretty average for a rimfire suppressor.
Novice Q obviously, so it's the sonic crack that disturbs the peace?
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Old 28 November 2018, 22:27
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Novice Q obviously, so it's the sonic crack that disturbs the peace?
Yup.

A suppressed 22LR that is supersonic is much louder than a subsonic round, given the supersonic "crack". However a suppressed 22 supersonic is still a lot quieter than an un-suppressed supersonic 22.



No hearing protection required for a suppressed supersonic 22, but loud enough for the neighbors to hear.
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Old 28 November 2018, 22:45
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Yup.

A suppressed 22LR that is supersonic is much louder than a subsonic round, given the supersonic "crack". However a suppressed 22 supersonic is still a lot quieter than an un-suppressed supersonic 22.



No hearing protection required for a suppressed supersonic 22, but loud enough for the neighbors to hear.
So when they advertise it, I suppose they're talking sub-sonic and using their suppressor?
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Old 28 November 2018, 22:54
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So when they advertise it, I suppose they're talking sub-sonic and using their suppressor?
Not entirely clear, but based on the documentation on the SilencerCo site:

"SilencerCo recommends using the Warlock with standard
velocity .22 LR ammunition. It is not recommended to use
this suppressor with Aguila® SSS 60gr ammunition, as the
projectile will not always stabilize and may result in damage
to the suppressor or firearm. Use of this ammunition will
void the warranty and create a potentially dangerous situation"



Standard Velocity 22LR is usually supersonic (barely). Based on the terminology used by SilencerCo, I understand that the noise levels they gave were based on supersonic 22LR ammo.

Of course, barrel length matters for velocity...

Edit: According to CCI, their standard velocity 22LR is 1070 fps, which is subsonic... I wish both SilencerCo and CCI were more explicit in their literature based on ammo, velocity, and barrel length.
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1070, 720 and/or CB .22 are movie silencer quiet if that's what you're looking for. 1070 will generally cycle the action, CBs normally won't. The action cycling is louder than the shot.
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Old 28 November 2018, 23:25
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yours. . .
And that's why this thread is rich. For a novice to traverse and separate the hyperbole and data from the essential-vocabulary and then come away with any kind of knowledge (w/o experience) is frustrating.

Guess that's why ad agencies get paid well.
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Old 28 November 2018, 23:26
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1070, 720 and/or CB .22 are movie silencer quiet if that's what you're looking for. 1070 will generally cycle the action, CBs normally won't. The action cycling is louder than the shot.
Great googly-moogly. . I'm off to google :-)
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Old 28 November 2018, 23:39
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What I'm looking for essentially is to understand a bit. Like that Sonic crack, or the sub sonic sound and the cycling of the action I've heard about. I say heard about, because I haven't heard a weapon with a Can.

Went to the link Chimo shared, wanted to understand bit more about the dB measurement and the what/when and how of that advertisement. What is the standard distance you measure such sound from?

So clarity over that particular ad's tech details so to speak.
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