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Old 31 August 2015, 12:56
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The Man in the High Castle

Pilot episode on Amazon right now. I managed to snag a copy of Episode 2 floating around the internet too.

Basically a cool show about "what if the Allies lost WWII", set in a parallel universe 1960s-partitioned America, ruled by the Nazis in the East, a neutral zone running through the rockies, and the Japanese occupying the West Coast.

The plot is crazy, as it revolves around a set of films purportedly produced by a person, known only as "the man in the high castle", that shows an alternate America that WON World War II. Resistance and Occupying forces are after the films.

Also going on is the neat little sub-plot regarding the Japanese and German forces preparing for war with each other after "old man Hitler" kicks the bucket. Goebbels and Himmler both jockeying for power while Hitler is on the decline. Did I mention DC gets nuked?

Pretty awesome show so far, methinks. I particularly like the fact that it shows a huge normalcy bias from the young people who never knew another America -- that living under rulers is 'normal'. Really the only Americans who are resisting are the WWII vets. The younger people are hesitant and a little resistive to any "rebellion" against the Japs and Nazis.

Personally I think the main girl in the show is stupid hot, and has a major Liv Tyler thing going on. The main Nazi SS dude is cool as hell too.
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Old 31 August 2015, 12:58
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The book is brilliant
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Old 31 August 2015, 12:59
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I didn't know it was a book. I'm going to have to buy it and read it. I'm already hooked on the show.
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Old 28 September 2015, 18:34
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Watched the first one and I'm hooked. Looks like the full release is on November 20th.
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I read this one a while ago

It was a story from the twisted mind of Phillip K. Dick, who also wrote "We Can Remember It for You Wholesale" which became "Total Recall". He also inspired "Bladerunner" which was based on his story "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" and "Minority Report". He was truly . . . out there.

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As Hollywood looks around for something new, I can't remember the title but the story is how people were drafted by the UN to populate the asteroid belt. Life was so bad that it revolved around chewing a narcotic so life wouldn't seem so bad. Then someone brings in a new narcotic. Pretty grim story as I recall.
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Old 28 September 2015, 21:34
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I'll check out that book. I like alternative history. At risk of getting branded, Guns of the South is one of my personal favorites.
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Old 30 October 2015, 07:50
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Read the book and didn't care much for it. I read it in sections on several trips, maybe I need to try it again in a environment more conducive to giving it my full attention.
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Old 30 October 2015, 10:02
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Thanks for the heads-up, will have to watch it.
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Watched the pilot this morning, based on this thread -- to be honest until the end of the episode, I thought there might be something worth following the series for -- now I'm not sure....
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The book is brilliant
Yes- maybe Dick's best book.

Turtledove is superb alternate history, even he- along with other relevant authors- consider 'Man in the High Castle' to be the best alternate history-reality book ever written.

'Man with the Iron Heart' by Turtledove is also excellent. Heydrich escapes assassination and leads extensively prepared insurgency against occupying Allied forces after end of WW2 in Europe.

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Old 30 October 2015, 10:23
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He also inspired "Bladerunner" which was based on his story "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?" He was truly . . . out there.
It was a superb approach to question the existence of the Human Soul.

And if memory can be implanted- how do you know you are who you think you are?

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Old 30 October 2015, 10:29
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Some good reading by Dick-

'Impostor'- made as movie with Gary Sinese and well done.

http://ww2.valdosta.edu/~asantas/Texts/Impostor.pdf

'Second Variety'- 'Scanners' movie draws heavily from this.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/32032

'The Defenders'- one of his best military science fiction short story.

http://www.gutenberg.org/ebooks/28767

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Old 30 October 2015, 14:24
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Some good reading by Dick-

'Impostor'- made as movie with Gary Sinese and well done.
Interesting bit of trivia regarding that film.
Philip K Dick's story was adapted into a short film that was meant to be part of a feature length anthology of short scifi stories.
Impostor was completed but the rest of the project fell apart.

The short film, Impostor, was faithful to the story and pretty cool... but less than 40 minutes long.
So the studio decided to film new scenes, add new characters and create a whole new social and political subplot and just pad the hell out of it, adding another 40 minutes, and release Impostor as a full length feature.

The full length film, Impostor, is meh... and dragged out.

BUT...
if you have the DVD, among the bonus features is the original cut of the film when it was just a short film.
I would recommend to anyone who hasn't seen this film, to rent the DVD, but ignore the movie and go straight to the extras and watch the original short film version. It makes more sense and it actually plays much better and more tense.
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I just had a chance to watch this a few days ago. I liked it and am looking forward to the next premiere in November.
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I spent a hundred buck on Amazon Prime just on the basis of the pilot episode, so that should tell you something.

I'll watch anything based on Philip K Dick stories.
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Screamers was pretty good, if different. I only saw it one time when it was released in theaters about 20 years ago so I'm not sure if I'd still think it was a decent movie.

I even liked A Scanner Darkly, although the whole Rotoscope process left a bit to be desired.
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I spent a hundred buck on Amazon Prim
Amazon Prime has excellent value.

Free 2-day ship time, free over-night or same-day in some case- sometime I medical situation makes it difficult to move about with ease.

But if you decline free expedited shipping- you will be given credit for other purchases.

It will pay for itself in shipping cost in 2 or 3 month. Also, all digital movie purchased on prime watchable on any computer or Amazon capable device. I have also heard that it is possible to upload physically owned DVD to amazon digital library.

Excellent value and service- good decision.

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BUT...
if you have the DVD, among the bonus features is the original cut of the film when it was just a short film.
Damn you. But it is excellent, thank you for recommendation.

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HH6 and I will likely be binge watching High Castle this weekend.... I've got a three-day weekend... sounds like Amazon TV, a nicely-lit fireplace (not roaring, as it's only getting into the low 30's at night over the weekend) and maybe a growler of Noble Cider
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I'm enjoying it so far.
There are many departures from the book... many.

And I hate to be that guy, but, for all its attention to detail, the production makes some slight errors.

For example, in the neutral unoccupied zone between Japanese Occupied America and German occupied America, there are still remnants of old America before the war was lost... like the building (pictured below) that still has American WW2 propaganda posters on the side...

the production people missed the meaning of the top left poster, showing Uncle Sam saying, "Jap... You're next!"
That poster was made after Germany was beaten... as also indicated in the "Jap... You're next!" statement.
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