SOCNET

Go Back   SOCNET: The Special Operations Community Network > General Topics > Gear, Survival and Fieldcraft

View Poll Results: What % of Friends/Family are Fully Prepared for Global Disaster (3-18 Month Survival)
Less than 1% 83 44.86%
1-10% 64 34.59%
10-20% 19 10.27%
20-30% 10 5.41%
Greater than 30% 9 4.86%
Voters: 185. You may not vote on this poll

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
  #801  
Old 19 February 2018, 11:19
EchoFiveMike's Avatar
EchoFiveMike EchoFiveMike is offline
Make a desert and call it peace.
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: back home, IVO chicago
Posts: 8,801
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fat Guy View Post
I built the frame from an old satellite dish mount and used self tapping sheet metal screws.
This made me think of something.

A good general purpose tool setup and a miscellaneous assortment of fasteners and fittings should be part of any long term survival plan. Plumbing should be figured in there as well. Duct tape and JB weld only goes so far. S/F....Ken M
__________________
"If you remember nothing else about what I’m about to consider here, remember this: the one and only reason politicians, bureaucrats, and policemen want to take your weapons away from you is so that they can do things to you that they couldn’t do if you still had your weapons."— L. Neil Smith

“The consolidation of the states into one vast empire, sure to be aggressive abroad and despotic at home, will be the certain precursor of ruin which has overwhelmed all that preceded it.”
- Robert E. Lee
Reply With Quote
  #802  
Old 19 February 2018, 14:34
DirtyDog0311 DirtyDog0311 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South
Posts: 7,809
I have the very real possibility of building my own home on some land in the not too distant future (~1-2years). I've always hated the fact that solar panels have been a HUGE opsec problem for anyone seeking to just gray man their castle fortress. However, Musk has come out with those solar shingles at, so they claim, a very low relative price-point that I definitely will be keeping track of until the time to build occurs. A few article say that Tesla is working to make them price-competitive with traditional shingles. In combination with 2 of those PowerWall things Tesla is putting out, I think it's a fantastic investment in the future and in self-sufficiency and lifestyle sustainability.

It remains to be seen if Tesla can deliver on it's promises, but whichever way it turns out, I'll be having a few powerpacks in the casa, along with solar on the roof. And a generator room inside with inputs to run directly into the house wiring without running a spaghetti mess of extension cords or zapping any utility workers.
Reply With Quote
  #803  
Old 19 February 2018, 16:23
B 2/75's Avatar
B 2/75 B 2/75 is offline
Old Scroll
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Black Mountains
Posts: 10,890
The acme of home self-sufficient power is a hydro turbine, running on a water source that simply will not dry up on you. Find a nice high-flow year-round spring that's got good fall and is remote enough and you're in high cotton.
__________________

"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee"
Melville / Captain Ahab
Reply With Quote
  #804  
Old 19 February 2018, 17:06
DirtyDog0311 DirtyDog0311 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South
Posts: 7,809
I would love to do micro hydro. Unfortunately, those prereqs for one don't exist where I'll be at, so no go for me. Micro hydro like this https://youtu.be/t0UGVg1p0XI is probably one of the best things I can think of for truly sustainable off grid activity with minimal impact to the lifestyle to which many of us have become accustomed.

12kW of energy (such as that video portrays), FREE, has amazing potential for boosting every other area of a potential homestead.
Reply With Quote
  #805  
Old 19 February 2018, 18:13
Gsniper Gsniper is offline
Shakin' the bush Boss
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,373
Quote:
The acme of home self-sufficient power is a hydro turbine,
I'm looking into this now. I have both a pond and a strong running stream. I'm sitting on a full load of GI bill money and the local community college has a two semester alternative energy program, solar, wind and hydro. I'm going to start it fall semester.
Reply With Quote
  #806  
Old 19 February 2018, 23:55
wowzers wowzers is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,042
Quote:
Originally Posted by EchoFiveMike View Post
This made me think of something.

A good general purpose tool setup and a miscellaneous assortment of fasteners and fittings should be part of any long term survival plan. Plumbing should be figured in there as well. Duct tape and JB weld only goes so far. S/F....Ken M
There is a pretty decent free pdf called Beyond Collapse that has some good tool and building material lists. I thought the whole book was pretty well done especial for the price.
Reply With Quote
  #807  
Old 20 February 2018, 13:58
morelocks's Avatar
morelocks morelocks is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Sep 2006
Location: NM
Posts: 816
Quote:
Originally Posted by wowzers View Post
There is a pretty decent free pdf called Beyond Collapse that has some good tool and building material lists. I thought the whole book was pretty well done especial for the price.
Good read so far.

Found it here.

http://www.survivalcivilization.com/?page_id=70

Thanks for the info.
__________________
Make Peace or Die 1/5

“Tyranny is defined as that which is legal for the government but illegal for the citizenry.”
― Thomas Jefferson
Reply With Quote
  #808  
Old 20 February 2018, 14:08
B 2/75's Avatar
B 2/75 B 2/75 is offline
Old Scroll
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Black Mountains
Posts: 10,890
Rotation of stock is very important. While it's a good, even necessary thing to put up significant stocks of foodstuffs, they don't last forever. Unless you have all freeze-dried goods which will last a quarter century but which are notoriously lacking in calories, you will eventually have to rotate your stock.

Items like dry rice and beans will last a decade or more if properly prepared and stored. Canned foods can go for up to about eight years, but keep a close watch for any seepage from or bulging of the cans.

In 2010 I put up lots of side stuff, including a dozen boxes of various cereals. 7 mil mylar 12" bags with plenty of oxygen absorbers, filled with cereal and then sealed under vacuum seem to have stood up very well. I opened and ate a bag cranberry and macadamia nut granola a few weeks ago and it was just fine. I had been worried that the trace of oils, primarily in the nuts, might have gone rancid, but that worry proved unfounded.

Last week I opened a bag of Cheerios... perfect condition. Here's a second bag.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 2018021.jpg (74.5 KB, 157 views)
__________________

"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee"
Melville / Captain Ahab
Reply With Quote
  #809  
Old 21 February 2018, 06:27
RGR.Montcalm's Avatar
RGR.Montcalm RGR.Montcalm is offline
Been There Done That
 
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Clearing fields of fire
Posts: 11,222
Just a passing thought- if you're getting ready to buy a year's worth of anything for the TEOTWAWKI/SHTF event, you probably should try it for taste and versatility; I actually LIKE SPAM in many of its incarnations, but I wouldn't want to eat it EVERY DAY.

Try some samples and don't adhere to a single source just for convenience...
__________________
Shallow men believe in luck; strong men believe in cause and effect
Reply With Quote
  #810  
Old 21 February 2018, 10:09
wowzers wowzers is offline
Confirmed User
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: Idaho
Posts: 2,042
With a little planning you can buy a years worth of real food items fairly easily. Here in the NW we have these Winco stores that are kind of like a JV Costco but better in my opinion. I'm sure there are similar deals elsewhere. They have bulk section plus buckets and mylar bags and oxygen absorbent etc. When I hunt I eat Mtn House a lot mostly for convenience but I damn sure wouldn't want to eat them for a year.

Quote:
Originally Posted by morelocks View Post

Thanks for the info.
No problem. I liked it enough I actually bought a hard copy.

Last edited by wowzers; 21 February 2018 at 10:28.
Reply With Quote
  #811  
Old 21 February 2018, 10:30
Gsniper Gsniper is offline
Shakin' the bush Boss
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,373
I'm adding two new garden plots this year that I don't currently need, but I'm going to go ahead and get them prepped and just use them for wildlife foodplots until I would need them for consumable food production. My current plot is adequate for current needs.

ETA - Next payday I'm going to start putting back a 5 gal bucket of HD Vision Special Ops sunglasses. I just can't see surviving without them.

Last edited by Gsniper; 21 February 2018 at 10:37.
Reply With Quote
  #812  
Old 21 February 2018, 13:24
DirtyDog0311 DirtyDog0311 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: South
Posts: 7,809
Hot sauce and spices. I have a shitload of Zatarains Creole seasoning that I drop on everything. Chicken, fish, veggies, eggs, etc. I could probably do the beans and rice thing for a year if I had my spices.
Reply With Quote
  #813  
Old 21 February 2018, 14:00
B 2/75's Avatar
B 2/75 B 2/75 is offline
Old Scroll
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Black Mountains
Posts: 10,890
Monotony in a diet is tough, but if you're still eating whilst those around you are not, well... you're still eating.

I keep about a hundred (total) of the large cans of tuna, pork, and chicken on the shelf, and pull from the front as I add to the back.

I've not yet rotated the 5 gallon buckets of beans, rice, and oatmeal that I've put up (50 gallons total) but it might just be a one-for-one replacement deal, as 5 gallons of dried pinto beans really don't cost that much.

These days I've been putting up odd stuff, like bic lighters, canned kerosene, Aladdin lamp wicks and mantles, measuring scoops, sleeping bags and stuff sacks, etc. Mostly non-food items that if you've got the space and time, are good to have in reserve. Oh, I've been loading up on Shabbat candles. Cheap at the grocery in the Kosher section or maybe the Dollar Store, and they burn a long time for their size.
__________________

"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee"
Melville / Captain Ahab
Reply With Quote
  #814  
Old 21 February 2018, 14:43
Chimo's Avatar
Chimo Chimo is offline
FIDO
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Location: State of Confusion
Posts: 3,374
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsniper View Post
ETA - Next payday I'm going to start putting back a 5 gal bucket of HD Vision Special Ops sunglasses. I just can't see surviving without them.
I just got some strange looks from people in my office because I spit water all over my desk when I read this.
__________________
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsniper View Post
I'd shoot a chipmunk if it kicked my door in wearing a ski mask.
Reply With Quote
  #815  
Old 21 February 2018, 15:43
JAFO's Avatar
JAFO JAFO is offline
33,024 - R.I.P.
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: GA
Posts: 4,091
Quote:
Originally Posted by B 2/75 View Post
...I opened and ate a bag cranberry and macadamia nut granola a few weeks ago and it was just fine. I had been worried that the trace of oils, primarily in the nuts, might have gone rancid, but that worry proved unfounded...
Any particular brand? Was it generic or "organic" (i.e. did it have preservatives already added)?
__________________
"Until Jesus gets into the gun business, there will never be a perfect gun.” - Will Larson (iraqgunz) RIP.
Reply With Quote
  #816  
Old 21 February 2018, 16:00
B 2/75's Avatar
B 2/75 B 2/75 is offline
Old Scroll
 
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Black Mountains
Posts: 10,890
It wasn't Post or anything, but I really don't recall after nearly 8 years.

Put stuff up, open it years later, and see if you win...

ETA: Wasn't intending to come across as being flip, but I think it sounded like it. Look for cereals and related things that have little to no fats / oils in them, as it WILL eventually go rancid. Ground coffee is an example, along with just about any kind of nuts. That's why I was worried about the macadamias. Green coffee, though, will store pretty well; you'll just have to grind and roast it somewhere on down the road.
__________________

"To the last I grapple with thee; from hell's heart I stab at thee, for hate's sake I spit my last breath at thee"
Melville / Captain Ahab

Last edited by B 2/75; 21 February 2018 at 16:33.
Reply With Quote
  #817  
Old 21 February 2018, 16:50
Sharky's Avatar
Sharky Sharky is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: SOCNET
Posts: 20,488
Quote:
Originally Posted by Gsniper View Post
ETA - Next payday I'm going to start putting back a 5 gal bucket of HD Vision Special Ops sunglasses. I just can't see surviving without them.
Bro you fucking kill me.

I'm sure Tonto Paronto is proud of that jewel of a commercial.
__________________
I was born my papa's son
When I hit the ground I was on the run
I had one glad hand and the other behind
You can have yours, just give me mine
When the hound dog barkin' in the black of the night
Stick my hand in my pocket, everything's all right

-ZZ Top
Reply With Quote
  #818  
Old 21 February 2018, 16:51
Sharky's Avatar
Sharky Sharky is offline
Administrator
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: SOCNET
Posts: 20,488
Quote:
Originally Posted by DirtyDog0311 View Post
I have a shitload of Zatarains Creole seasoning that I drop on everything.


Zatarains is good. Tony Chachere's is better.
__________________
I was born my papa's son
When I hit the ground I was on the run
I had one glad hand and the other behind
You can have yours, just give me mine
When the hound dog barkin' in the black of the night
Stick my hand in my pocket, everything's all right

-ZZ Top
Reply With Quote
  #819  
Old 21 February 2018, 17:35
Gsniper Gsniper is offline
Shakin' the bush Boss
 
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: Virginia
Posts: 7,373
I've got 10 gal of table salt and 10 gal of tenderquick curing salt, 2 1gal containers of black pepper and a 5 gal bucket of oddball stuff like season all, etc.
Reply With Quote
  #820  
Old 21 February 2018, 17:40
Mars Mars is offline
On the Extract Bird
 
Join Date: Jul 2010
Location: Gone
Posts: 8,068
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharky View Post
...Tony Chachere's is better.
I put Tony's and Tabasco on just about everything...but, have you tried Slap Ya Mama yet? It's some good stuff!
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Our new posting rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 08:13.
Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.11
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, vBulletin Solutions Inc.
Socnet.com All Rights Reserved
© SOCNET 1996-2018