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Old 28 July 2019, 09:26
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Is this what’s referred to as, “the new normal”?

No, I think it is a TMZ approach to shock the public.
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Old 5 August 2019, 19:18
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The Article 32 for the two remaining defendants is supposed to conclude today. There is this twist.
https://www.thedailybeast.com/lawyer...ess?ref=scroll

As stated in the article, the charges will probably be referred to trial (by GCM). Any affair between the NCIS agent and a witness while inappropriate, would likely not result in withdrawing the charges. More to follow...
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Old 6 August 2019, 09:00
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Wash Post reported the sexual assault charges in their coverage of yesterday's Art 32.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/local...814_story.html

I hope they can get this concluded soon.
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Old 8 August 2019, 09:46
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Nice. Report minute by minute. You must be retired. lol
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Old 8 August 2019, 10:42
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You must be retired. lol
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Isnt this guy Colby Vokey (Madera-Rodriguez’s attorney) the same guy that is suing Eddie Gallagher for legal fees?
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Old 8 August 2019, 13:50
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Isnt this guy Colby Vokey (Madera-Rodriguez’s attorney) the same guy that is suing Eddie Gallagher for legal fees?
Yes.
https://www.heraldmailmedia.com/news...b327cf194.html
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Old 30 August 2019, 14:35
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A "source that shall not be named" on SOCNET is reporting a cleaning house within NSW as a result of the many incidents and investigations. R Admiral Collin Green (NSWC Commander) is directing these actions. Grooming standards will be reinstated, Captain's Masts (jokingly referred to as Admiral's Mast in the article, as RAdm Green will be directly involved) are expected. Also discussed was potentially slowing the expansion of the NSW pipeline until things are re-baselined.

Thoughts on these actions from the NSW community? Is R Admiral Green the right man for the job, and/or taking the proper approach?

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Old 30 August 2019, 14:47
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A "source that shall not be named" on SOCNET is reporting a cleaning house within NSW as a result of the many incidents and investigations. R Admiral Collin Green (NSWC Commander) is directing these actions. Grooming standards will be reinstated, Captain's Masts (jokingly referred to as Admiral's Mast in the article, as RAdm Green will be directly involved) are expected. Also discussed was potentially slowing the expansion of the NSW pipeline until things are re-baselined.

Thoughts on these actions from the NSW community? Is R Admiral Green the right man for the job, and/or taking the proper approach?

Back to my lane...
Seems to just be a knee jerk reaction and hes not actually adressing what ever issues he thinks there are. "Im going to kill morale, that'll show em!"
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Old 30 August 2019, 15:22
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I think a lot of the incidents that have come to light recently would kill morale a helluva lot more than getting a haircut, acting professional and maintaining standards.
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Old 30 August 2019, 15:50
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Punish all to fix the problems of a few. Typical Big Navy response to a problem. Hopefully the peer pressure it generates will help clean house.
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Old 30 August 2019, 16:45
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...peer pressure...
That can be one of the most powerful motivators for self-correction that there is. As you said, hopefully it will be instituted and solve most of the issues. If teammates won't accept bad behavior, then it can't happen near as often.
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Punish all to fix the problems of a few.
I'm not into most general spit and polish type activities, but how is what he's saying he wants done a punishment for anyone?

Your statement seems to be more than a slight exaggeration.
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Old 30 August 2019, 17:18
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I think a lot of the incidents that have come to light recently would kill morale a helluva lot more than getting a haircut, acting professional and maintaining standards.
There are thousands of people in NSW. What percentage of them do you think were involved in any of these incidents, and how many of them do you think were a result of having unit patches and longer hair? Despite what much of the military seems to think, you can act professional without having a high and tight. Taking action that serves no purpose other than angering people who are doing everything right usually seems to lead to an increase in the types of incidents that he is hoping to reduce in my experience.
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Old 30 August 2019, 17:30
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Quit introducing emotion as if it's fact.

Not one single person said they think SEALs should get high and tights.
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Old 30 August 2019, 17:43
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Quit introducing emotion as if it's fact.

Not one single person said they think SEALs should get high and tights.
I didnt say they did.
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Yet you used it in your example...
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Old 30 August 2019, 20:55
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The AD SEALs number less than 5000. It is a tight community and once the press gets out of the way, it will course correct. RADM Green has been a SEAL for 30 years. With the help of the senior Enlisted, he will "fix" what is perceived, broken. And don't think for a minute that guys like ADM Olson, ADM McRaven and VADM Szymanski aren't providing advice.
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Old 31 August 2019, 11:28
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You are correct SB, my statement is an exaggeration, one used as a metaphor. Punish - in this case enforcing good order and discipline as a matter of routine. Uniform inspections, barracks inspections, etc.. Increasing the hassle of the daily routine. Not a punishment per se, just a PIA. No one wants a PIA, so I'd expect the guys to pressure their peers to keep their shit wired tight.
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Old 31 August 2019, 18:22
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You come across as someone who has never been in charge of anyone. Sorry if that's blunt. I'm not clear why a room or uniform inspection would interrupt anyone's daily routine.

The Admiral never said, junk on the bunk, dress uniform inspections or anything actually outrageous. He said inspections and mentioned regulations and appears to have left it up to the subordinate leaders on how to accomplish it. It could be as simple as plt Chief walking through rooms or something similar.

For some reason a few of you have deemed that beyond the pale of anyone serving to have to endure.
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