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Old 22 April 2019, 12:41
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They're all following the same script. In NZ it’s murderous, racist white supremacy against muslims, in SL it’s a sad attack on peaceful people of many faiths. I think it might have to do with Christianity being seen as a "white" religion by the general western plebs, never mind that the oppressed Christians around the world aren't.

One could even go further. It could be seen as denying Christians of their faith - in essence claiming that these people are not saved by the grace of God, but rather idiots who worship a pagan goddess. But this might scratch on the tin foil hat.
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Old 22 April 2019, 13:20
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This tragedy was sad enough before I read what Clinton and her ilk said. I get so irate these days over practically anything reported on the news. What a horrific Easter for these poor families.
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Old 22 April 2019, 13:39
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They're all following the same script. In NZ it’s murderous, racist white supremacy against muslims... In SL...
I vacillate between Atheist and Agnostic - but that's ^ some true shit right there. Muslim's killed Christians - say it! I hope somebody also jerked a knot in Fox News' ass... Can't believe Twitter didn't go nuts over that crap? RIP to the dead, speedy recovery to the wounded.
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Old 22 April 2019, 20:15
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Seems the Easter Worshippers theme is common across the board from Foxnews to AP.. Who the hell decided that was correct, or event PC?
Operation Mockingbird, that's who.
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Old 22 April 2019, 20:20
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Those of you upset Fox played along are probably also waiting for another chance to vote us out of the death spiral our nation has been in for decades...
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Old 22 April 2019, 21:31
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Old 22 April 2019, 21:46
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The propaganda machine... it applies to ALL networks. If you haven't realized you are being led around by the nose...
Propaganda....
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Old 23 April 2019, 08:21
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Old 23 April 2019, 08:45
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Which were themselves retaliations for Muslim killings of the worlds citizens.... and so it goes for over a thousand years....
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Old 23 April 2019, 09:06
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Wasn't the Christchurch asshole an atheist? Attacking Christians in Sri Lanka is in retaliation for...??

Oh wait, I figured it out:

They labeled him a "right-wing extremist" and a "white supremacist", so if these attacks against Christians in Sri Lanka were retaliatory, then I guess that links right-wing extremism and white supremacy with Christianity.

Subtle.
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Old 23 April 2019, 09:33
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I call bullshit. Jihadis have no problem discussing motive, especially when it's in direct retaliation for something.
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Old 23 April 2019, 10:19
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321 Dead in Sri Lanka as revenge against ~50 dead in NZ. Sounds like some BS to me.

I truly think that Obama and H. Clinton chose to say "Easter Worshipers" in their responses, not to avoid saying "Christians", but because of how out of touch they really are. Them being the ruling class and all.
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Old 23 April 2019, 15:09
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I am not buying it. They coordinated these bombings in less the 36 days? These were planned long before the NZ attack, IMO.
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Old 24 April 2019, 03:45
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It'll be interesting to see how the Tamils respond, with 30 years of war slaughter under their belts its hard to imagine they're going to do the Western 'why do they hate us?' Routine.
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Old 24 April 2019, 10:51
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I truly think that Obama and H. Clinton chose to say "Easter Worshipers" in their responses, not to avoid saying "Christians", but because of how out of touch they really are. Them being the ruling class and all.
Avoiding the mention of Christians prevents that term from being linked to victims of terrorist attacks, especially Muslim attacks. Five years from now when someone googles how many Christians were killed by jihadis, those 300+ won't show up because all the relevant articles at the top of the logarithm's list will only be those including the term Christians, not Easter Worshipers.

It's not exactly a new game of wordplay. In the 1880s, white southern democrats seeking to be seen by northerners and businessmen as respectable statesmen truthfully denied having had any connection to the KKK but would neglect to mention their membership is like-minded organizations like the Red Shirts or the Order of the White Rose. Bernie Sanders likes to call himself a socialist but not a communist, but neglects to mention that he honeymooned in the USSR in the late 1980s. Strom Thurmond ran for POTUS on a platform of racial segregation, but he adored his own half-black illegitimate children. Hillary Clinton was an invited guest at Donald and Melania's wedding, and he was a big contributor to her POTUS campaign in 2008. Humans lie at least as often as they don't.
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Old 24 April 2019, 15:05
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My church has armed security and last sunday we had a Police Officer present. I see this becoming the norm for now on.
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Old 24 April 2019, 16:33
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My church has armed security and last sunday we had a Police Officer present. I see this becoming the norm for now on.
There are commercial companies providing training for church security teams, and many law enforcement agencies will perform security surveys if requested. Unfortunate state of affairs, but pretty common in the long view of history. If you can destroy your opponent's gods, you undermine their faith and confidence.
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Old 24 April 2019, 17:18
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With a few days in now that the iterative reporting in the media has settled down a bit, it appears most international facing news sites (BBC, CNN, others) actively covered the incident and called a spade a spade when it was identified that this was another ISIS (or ISIS-inspired) attack.

IMHO, beyond a common enemy with Islamic terrorist networks, very little of the American context to include our politicians or political parties are applicable to the terrorist incident in Sri Lanka. American politics isn't relevant to the situation at hand.

Christians, Hindus, and Muslims are minorities in Sri Lanka to the Buddhist majority. Ethnically, Sinhalese and Tamils are the majority/minority. Previous insurgency and terrorism associated with the Tamil LTTE multi-decade fight is done. Christian Catholics fall in both ethnic groups (Sinhala and Tamil), therefore this incident cuts across ethnicities. Locally, Sri Lanka does not have the same religious violence history as does neighbor India. While the Sinhala/Tamil fight also fell into Buddhist/Hindu camps, the war was ethnolinguistic in nature. Some reports indicate the local Muslim population even reported the budding terrorist movement a few years ago to the government.

Which brings to light the elephant in the room, IMO. Sri Lanka's government has yet to mature beyond the post-LTTE insurgency and is currently a mess. Based upon reports noted here and on the media, a warning was issued regarding the threat, it made its way into the government somewhere, but got caught in the power struggle and incompetence between the elected Prime Minister and the former President, and current President. The former strongman President who put the nail in the coffin with the LTTE had overplayed his hand with the public and got voted out. Dude also walked Sri Lanka into a Chinese debt trap. He was made the PM by the current President who defeated him, over the elected PM, only for their supreme court to call the elected PM's removal unconstitutional.

During the civil war, the whole country was pretty buttoned up. Now that a somewhat normal civic society structure has returned, one can't simply rely on having all the hatches closed in a lockdown. Instability within the government is an opportunity that global jihadi networks can definitely exploit, IMO. Would be interested in seeing more mature information and a cleaner picture once its all said and done.
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Old 24 April 2019, 18:33
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Old 24 April 2019, 19:34
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No one said our politics were germane to the situation in Sri Lanka.

As to the "elephant in the room" I submit there isn't an elephant in the room or even the reason for the failure to share information there. How about they just plain screwed up? Or how about the cocksuckers out planed and out executed the authorities? "Mature" gov means jack. If it did, we, the Brits, France and all the other countries they've killed people for not being of their belief system would have never happened.
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