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Old 21 March 2019, 07:36
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Special Forces Profiency Pay?

Tried google search but could find no definitive answer.

Is there still a monthly Special Forces qualification pay? If so, what is the current amount?

IIRC, it was $220 a month when I was last in.


Airborne/parachutist (static) haz duty pay is still $150 a month?

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Old 21 March 2019, 08:30
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I never heard of SF propay, only Airborne, HALO, SCUBA and demolitions.
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Old 21 March 2019, 09:25
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$375 Pro Pay, $150 Jump.
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Old 21 March 2019, 10:34
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$375 Pro Pay, $150 Jump.
Thanks Gavin. Knew it was around $300 probably.

Language pay is $200 a month, have to get 3/3 to qualify or any pay for 2/2 or 1/1?
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Old 21 March 2019, 11:27
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Thanks Gavin. Knew it was around $300 probably.

Language pay is $200 a month, have to get 3/3 to qualify or any pay for 2/2 or 1/1?
Language is $400 for a 3/3, and you can get paid more if you are qual'd in additional languages. IIRC it's $300 for a 2+/2+, and $200 for a 2/2. At times there have been special programs to pay guys in high-priority languages for a 1+, but that is not standard.

Demo is $75, MFF is $225, dive is $340 (IIRC, as I'm not a diver).
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Old 21 March 2019, 12:05
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Jump pay was $30 per month when I was in.
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Old 21 March 2019, 12:18
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Jump pay was $30 per month when I was in.
It was $150 when I went to flight school. Flight pay was $125 the first two years I flew. But it worked out eventually.
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Old 21 March 2019, 12:49
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As of nine months ago, Demo pay was $150/mo and dive pay was $215/mo for enlisted personnel.

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Old 21 March 2019, 16:12
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Just think I did the job with nothing but Jump pay and never thought I would get anything else while jumping, blowing things up or Free falling. Diving in a non dive slot and just having fun...... Learned three languages but never paid for it.

How times have changed.

Glad to see the boys get a little bit of financial help now.....
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Old 21 March 2019, 16:19
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Agree with above. Glad to see them finally paying better for skills. When I started jump pay was $110. Later went up to $150 before I retired. Dive pay was $175. My class motto in scuba school was “I dive for $175”.

I was an 18C before CWO and never saw any demo pay.
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Old 21 March 2019, 16:28
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When I started in SF, I got $110/jump pay and $75/language.

When I retired, I was getting over $1000/mo in special pays, which I appreciated. The downside of all that $$$ is that SOF troops aren’t inclined to accept positions outside of SOCOM, due to the loss of special pays.
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Just think I did the job with nothing but Jump pay and never thought I would get anything else while jumping, blowing things up or Freefalling. Diving in a non-dive slot and just having fun...... Learned three languages but never paid for it.

How times have changed.

Glad to see the boys get a little bit of financial help now.....
Hell! I may have stayed in and dealt with Bone/Rambo/Ramirez & Parker, picking up pine cones and that one fucker up in SWTG with a PHD in education that insisted on being called doctor for the "extra" pay...
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Jump pay was $30 per month when I was in.

When was that? Enlisted jump pay was $50 in WW2.
When I went on jump status in 1978 it was $55 and then I have LESs for when it transitioned to $83 on the way to $110 for all ranks but I've never heard of it being that amount.
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When was that? Enlisted jump pay was $50 in WW2.
When I went on jump status in 1978 it was $55 and then I have LESs for when it transitioned to $83 on the way to $110 for all ranks but I've never heard of it being that amount.
Would have been 1961, my memory may be at fault though.
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CAPTAUSRET meant the pay increase he got from jumping out of the frying pan and into the fire!
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When was that? Enlisted jump pay was $50 in WW2.
When I went on jump status in 1978 it was $55 and then I have LESs for when it transitioned to $83 on the way to $110 for all ranks but I've never heard of it being that amount.
Never could figure out that $83 jump pay.

Same as you, I went on jump status in '78. Back then enlisted jump pay was $55, officer's was $110. I was told it was a holdover from the days when jumpmasters were all officers.

Then DoD split the difference ($83). Then a couple years later they just made it $110 for everyone.

Good solid military thinking there...
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Great history about incentive pay!
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Old 22 March 2019, 19:44
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Never could figure out that $83 jump pay.
Good solid military thinking there...

If it offended you that much you could have returned the difference.


But seriously, it was really funny because there was word out around then that there was serious consideration for scaled jump pay based on Basic at $55, Senior at $83 and Master at $110.


I still remember folks scrambling to get the Master wings that had been a low priority until then.
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Old 22 March 2019, 19:59
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Would have been 1961, my memory may be at fault though.

Yeah, that's what I thought.


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DFAS has archived military pay tables from 1949 to the present. I took the liberty of downloading 1958, 1963 and 1969.
Apart from the obvious typo saying enlisted jump pay was $555.00 you can see that it had been $55.00 for a while.
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Old 22 March 2019, 22:01
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Yeah, that's what I thought.


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DFAS has archived military pay tables from 1949 to the present. I took the liberty of downloading 1958, 1963 and 1969.
Apart from the obvious typo saying enlisted jump pay was $555.00 you can see that it had been $55.00 for a while.
Interesting. According to the DFAS chart Jump pay was actually $83 when I went to jump school (1984) not $110. I didn’t remember that.
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