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Old 8 July 2019, 14:34
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Epstein is scum, but I doubt he'll roll on anyone of significance. Sure would love to see WJC get cuffed and hauled off to jail....

I'm left wondering why this news, now? What's going on in the background that they don't want us to see? The timing of this distraction makes me curious.
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Old 8 July 2019, 14:40
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I was told by a coworker they aren't going to pursue pedo charges and are going with trafficking charges only because there is no statue of limitations for trafficking.

I wonder if they offer a plea deal if he rolls over on some of his buddies? If they don't, perhaps they don't want to know what he knows and just want to put his ass away.
I also heard he had employees who were both procuring and paying the teenage girls. I haven't heard whether or not they too are being prosecuted. Hopefully they are and I just missed it.
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Old 8 July 2019, 14:43
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What would that reboot? We could kick them all out and all we'd get would be more of the same. Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely. I have yet to be in an organization big or small where a good portion of management isn't incompetent. I have dreams of starting a revolution but then I remember history and reading time and time again about how the same type of people just take over after a revolution has been done. All we really need is a big meteor to hit this planet!
I agree with all of that.
The one tool that we as a people supposedly have, but have always seen enough of the population easily distracted well enough to avoid using, is term limits and the destruction of a permanent political class.

We also have to destroy congressional ability to conduct insider trading. Congressional ability (which includes staffers) to engage in insider trading, and not fill out an SEC Form 4, as well as report it online allows these people grow wealthy doing things that would put "the people" in prison. Congress is so arrogant about it that they went around Obama's 2012 STOCK act, which was supposed to put an end to the insider trading, by a simple procedural vote. Our people are so conditioned and disconnected that they fail to understand this simple thing.

If people could get their heads around how a free country is supposed to work by understanding that they should almost never have to interact with the federal government, State government only a little bit more, and for day to day, they should be interacting with local government. Idealistic to be sure, but it's the way things would correct.
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Old 8 July 2019, 15:26
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Fixed it for you.
I was thinking about this. I would imagine if Trump was in the sights in anyway shape or form they wouldn't allow her anywhere near this.
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Old 8 July 2019, 15:32
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I only hope this goon is under redundant, 24/7 suicide watch by extremely reliable people to ensure that he can't die in some mysterious fashion. The stash in his house seems to be getting well publicized to encourage him to admit the gig is up, and to roll over and play for a deal. S/F....Ken M
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#EpsteinOsTrumpsBFF is already trending on Twitter, I'm certain this is entirely organic.
The sheer stupidity of some of the people is simply infuriating. Not too long ago this was all a "conspiracy theory", all of a sudden it is real and all about POTUS.
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Old 8 July 2019, 15:57
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Old 8 July 2019, 17:08
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Damn, I'm suspicious--

Whatever is going on, it's NOT just about some pedo-scumbag. There are WAY too many high-end personalities involved, WAY too many leaks (Pelosi's daughter-- if you think that is just some organic comment, you're a fool-- What reporter would think to call Pelosi's kids and ask for a quote about a convicted Pedo? That was a strategic quote, from the left, without exposing any sitting officials, to the possibility that they're going to sacrifice a few pawns to set up the king), and all this suspiciously timed at the beginning of an election-cycle. It's not Russia, or tax-returns, or shady business dealings that half the country doesn't care about... it's rich powerful guys diddling kids, which is non-partisan, and which EVERYONE is against, and which can't be completely proven or disproven that (they're hoping) will throw enough suspicion DJT's way to knock some red-state voters off of the Trump train. They already tried sex to disparage DJT. Didn't work. But sex with kids-- Dude, someone's gotta pay for that.

If Slick Willie and a passel of of other Democrat-backbenchers have to be indicted too, for stuff they knew they shouldn't be doing (but did anyway... 'cuz, what're you gonna do? Indict an ex-POTUS?)... well, let the chips fall where they may. There's way too much power up for grabs for the power-pros to play nice.

Somewhere there's a smoke filled backroom with a dry erase board and a bunch of guys deciding who they're going to sacrifice in order to win the next election. If they're successful, there's an assistant cabinet-secretary position for them in the next Democrat administration, and who knows-- the sky's the limit.

If they fail, someone will find kiddie porn or a pound of fentanyl or a dead hooker in their hotel-room. If they write a book or leak, well... there's always the Vinnie Foster playbook.

Yeah. There's more going on here than meets the eye.
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Old 8 July 2019, 17:27
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Damn, I'm suspicious--

Whatever is going on, it's NOT just about some pedo-scumbag. There are WAY too many high-end personalities involved, WAY too many leaks (Pelosi's daughter-- if you think that is just some organic comment, you're a fool-- What reporter would think to call Pelosi's kids and ask for a quote about a convicted Pedo? That was a strategic quote, from the left, without exposing any sitting officials, to the possibility that they're going to sacrifice a few pawns to set up the king), and all this suspiciously timed at the beginning of an election-cycle. It's not Russia, or tax-returns, or shady business dealings that half the country doesn't care about... it's rich powerful guys diddling kids, which is non-partisan, and which EVERYONE is against, and which can't be completely proven or disproven that (they're hoping) will throw enough suspicion DJT's way to knock some red-state voters off of the Trump train. They already tried sex to disparage DJT. Didn't work. But sex with kids-- Dude, someone's gotta pay for that.

If Slick Willie and a passel of of other Democrat-backbenchers have to be indicted too, for stuff they knew they shouldn't be doing (but did anyway... 'cuz, what're you gonna do? Indict an ex-POTUS?)... well, let the chips fall where they may. There's way too much power up for grabs for the power-pros to play nice.

Somewhere there's a smoke filled backroom with a dry erase board and a bunch of guys deciding who they're going to sacrifice in order to win the next election. If they're successful, there's an assistant cabinet-secretary position for them in the next Democrat administration, and who knows-- the sky's the limit.

If they fail, someone will find kiddie porn or a pound of fentanyl or a dead hooker in their hotel-room. If they write a book or leak, well... there's always the Vinnie Foster playbook.

Yeah. There's more going on here than meets the eye.
Nailed it. It's all timed for Election 2020 Goals.
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Old 8 July 2019, 17:55
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Somewhere there's a smoke filled backroom with a dry erase board and a bunch of guys deciding who they're going to sacrifice in order to win the next election.
Maybe they should call these guys...?
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Old 8 July 2019, 17:56
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An interesting look back to when Epstein was all the rage.... Some very eerie parts of the article in light of what we know now.... LINK
That is a weird read, in light of current events.
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Old 8 July 2019, 18:21
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Think about it--

What's Billy Clinton done for anyone lately? The Clinton dynasty ended election night 2016. The Clinton Foundation doesn't have the cash to spread around that they used to... So WJC is expendable.

If you were the DNC, would you trade him and a few other known horn-dogs that had outlived their usefulness if you thought it would get you the presidency?

Res ipsa loquitor.
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Old 8 July 2019, 18:38
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Think about it--

What's Billy Clinton done for anyone lately? The Clinton dynasty ended election night 2016. The Clinton Foundation doesn't have the cash to spread around that they used to... So WJC is expendable.

If you were the DNC, would you trade him and a few other known horn-dogs that had outlived their usefulness if you thought it would get you the presidency?

Res ipsa loquitor.
Hell, Biden's voting record is already a target in the primaries, the next natural extension is Bill Clinton's legacy and the man himself, since the majority of his legislative wins are either fizzed out, or under attack because of current wokeness. The current SPECTRE cabinet equivalent of the Democratic party is most likely quite ready to trade in WJC like a GM trades draft picks when it's the right move. Even if it's just to damage POTUS through a connection to Epstein, more's the better in their eyes. And let's face it, it's not out of the realm of possibility that DJT was involved in any of the messed up stuff, so it might not just be a smear. That would be the cherry on top.

Also, Comey's daughter being on the case has me thinking it's even more likely this one brings down someone big (even if not Clinton). Having her on this one seems a primer to bump up her name for future positions or campaigns to center around this future accomplishment in front of her.
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Old 8 July 2019, 19:18
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I'm also wondering who has obtained access to all this blackmail material (probably everyone), and how complicit our intelligence agencies are in allowing it, or condoning it?
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Old 8 July 2019, 19:35
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I expect more judges to pass away in their sleep. lol
The original Politico article you posted was dated March 25. While I wouldn't be surprised to see a few few people Arkan-sided, a 96 year old dying 4 months ago doesn't really ping my spidey senses.
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Old 8 July 2019, 19:42
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Everything pings my spidey senses these days, haha.

There's a video on youtube allegedly of Trump calling Epstein out in 2015, but it won't play (youtube is telling me to restart my device, weird).
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Old 8 July 2019, 19:56
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Old 8 July 2019, 20:12
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Old 8 July 2019, 20:16
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Old 8 July 2019, 22:53
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The judge passed away at the age of 96, so...high?
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