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Old 24 July 2017, 10:40
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Didn't Colt make a XM-177 and a Son Tay Raider Special a year or two ago?

I though saw that somewhere.
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Old 24 July 2017, 11:18
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Didn't Colt make a XM-177 and a Son Tay Raider Special a year or two ago?

I though saw that somewhere.
Is this what you're thinking of?
https://myservicerifle.com/product/troy-xm177e2/
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Old 24 July 2017, 11:24
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Here is what I was think of:

http://www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...am-era-ar-15s/
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Ah. It was my understanding that Colt was actually contracting those out. Can't think of the name of the company, but Colt recently (a year or so ago?) released some fairly low priced ARs. Research indicated that they were actually produced by another company under license from Colt to use their logo. I think the same company is producing these retro ARs.

This might be related. http://www.guns.com/2017/07/12/colt-...roduction-run/

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Old 24 July 2017, 11:44
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The full size A1 had a sticker price of $2500! I think that turned a few folks away from a Colt retro model. I don't think they released the CAR yet.
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Old 24 July 2017, 18:22
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Ah. It was my understanding that Colt was actually contracting those out. Can't think of the name of the company, but Colt recently (a year or so ago?) released some fairly low priced ARs. Research indicated that they were actually produced by another company under license from Colt to use their logo. I think the same company is producing these retro ARs.

This might be related. http://www.guns.com/2017/07/12/colt-...roduction-run/
Yeah, that's the Colt Expanse program, IIRC. A fucking full-on shit show by all accounts. Colt is literally cashing in all the prestige and quality saved up by decades and decades of previous generations of workers and engineers. I cannot believe they'd allow their brand to be stamped on such pieces of shit as they have the Expanse program. Who in the shit is running things over there? Geez.

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The full size A1 had a sticker price of $2500! I think that turned a few folks away from a Colt retro model. I don't think they released the CAR yet.
Colt seriously has GOT to get their shit together. I swear they are the most out of . An A1 retro should in no way shape or form be $2500 --- even if that is MSRP and we can expect a ~$400-$500 drop at the street level. An A1 retro should probably cost around $1500 at the most. I mean, they should have the tooling, jigs, and other manufacturing necessities all sitting in a friggin warehouse somewhere (probably).

Their complacency and lackadaisical attitude that basically was "well we're a 'military contract' company now, so we don't need to innovate and/or improve our product or try to break new ground in other areas" basically fucked themselves into bankruptcy.
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Old 29 September 2017, 16:22
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Leopardprey this morning shamed me into finally getting this thing sighted in and running some rounds through it (the fact that it's not 115 degrees any more and I have a rare day playing hooky from work didn't hurt either).

Spur of the moment I ran out to one of my shooting spots (sorry Mac, Azatty, Iraqgunz, and Tycon...we'll have to organize a shooting trip soon) and had some fun. Sights were virtually on from the factory, and had zero issues after putting a couple hundred rounds of 55 grain 5.56 through it.

I'd say I'm pretty happy with this little carbine, and it seems like a pretty faithful copy of the original. Only real flaw I can detect is I can see very slight milling marks on the side of the upper where they removed the brass deflector (guessing they started with a C7 type upper) before applying the finish.
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Yes we do fucker. So you can see how quality is being Made Great Again.

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Leopardprey this morning shamed me into finally getting this thing sighted in and running some rounds through it (the fact that it's not 115 degrees any more and I have a rare day playing hooky from work didn't hurt either).

Spur of the moment I ran out to one of my shooting spots (sorry Mac, Azatty, Iraqgunz, and Tycon...we'll have to organize a shooting trip soon) and had some fun. Sights were virtually on from the factory, and had zero issues after putting a couple hundred rounds of 55 grain 5.56 through it.

I'd say I'm pretty happy with this little carbine, and it seems like a pretty faithful copy of the original. Only real flaw I can detect is I can see very slight milling marks on the side of the upper where they removed the brass deflector (guessing they started with a C7 type upper) before applying the finish.
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Spur of the moment I ran out to one of my shooting spots (sorry Mac, Azatty, Iraqgunz, and Tycon...we'll have to organize a shooting trip soon) and had some fun.
Cough cough

This is getting to be the perfect weather here for doing stuff outside.
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Old 30 September 2017, 14:54
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Cough cough

This is getting to be the perfect weather here for doing stuff outside.
Maybe we organize a Phoenix area group shoot. Tycon does some competitions. Maybe he has access to some of the private ranges out at Ben Avery.
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Old 30 September 2017, 19:21
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Maybe we organize a Phoenix area group shoot. Tycon does some competitions. Maybe he has access to some of the private ranges out at Ben Avery.
Sounds good to me
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I think you misspelled "paradise".
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When cleaning it today I also noticed that the rifle has what I can only describe as "mini-M4" feed ramps cut into the upper receiver to match up with the rifle style feed ramps in the barrel extension.

Pretty sure the original wouldn't have had that, but I'm good with it.
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I think you misspelled "paradise".

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AZ how was reliability? Any malfunctions?
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AZ how was reliability? Any malfunctions?
Only put a couple hundred rounds through it, but right as rain so far.
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Only put a couple hundred rounds through it, but right as rain so far.
Good to know they are go not just show.
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